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Schaub is Starting
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=5551
Matt Schaub is starting on Sunday against the Jets.

No ifs.

No ands.

No buts.

DRob is coming along really well
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=5550
(on his thought on how CB Dunta Robinson played) "He's looked good. He made a couple of nice plays today. He picked off one or two passes."


Jacque Reeves is back at practice, and looks to be ready by week 2
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=5550
(on the status of CB Jacques Reeves) "He's made a lot of progress. He actually practiced some today. So that's a big step in the right direction for him so we'll see but I think all indications were all along, we were looking at week two. So hopefully that will still be the case."

The defense we saw in the preseason was very vanilla
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=5550
(on how much of their defense was not shown during the preseason) "I would say a good bulk of it of course. In the preseason, you want to improve some things, work on some things. But you definitely don't want to go out there and show, you know, all the tricks you have up your sleeve. As the cliché says, ‘A magician shall not reveal all his secrets.' So that's how we're going to look at this."

The players love Frank Bush's style
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=5550
(on the difference that defensive coordinator Frank Bush will make) "He's a fun coach. For the first time, he's a coordinator that guys really want to go out and play for on Sunday. I think guys are going to try their best to makes sure he looks good. So I will say that will be the biggest different he'll make. We've got a lot of aggressive players on this defense. We like to and want to fly around and hit people. Like I said, we look good on paper, but we've got to make sure we can translate that over to the field."

:fans:
 
I saw that ankle problem Schaub had during the Vikings game. I know the Jets saw it too because Vernon Gholston made a comment about playing a QB with a bad ankle. I think the Jets are going to want to see how that ankle really feels.
 
Bah...good news? What kind of talk is that?

Just kidding. I can't wait for this game. It's now time to see the Texans come out and play for real. In my fondest dreams we finally have a good defense this year. I would love LOVE LOVE to see that this Sunday. :texflag:
 
I'm not worried about Matt Schaub's ankle. I'm not worried about Steve Slaton and the running game. I'm not worried about Andre Johnson, Kevin Walter or Owen Daniels and I'm not worried about the Texans offense.

I'm worried about the Jets rushing for 200+ yards and I'm worried about rookie Sanchez torching the Texans secondary.
 
I'm not worried about Matt Schaub's ankle. I'm not worried about Steve Slaton and the running game. I'm not worried about Andre Johnson, Kevin Walter or Owen Daniels and I'm not worried about the Texans offense.

I'm worried about the Jets rushing for 200+ yards and I'm worried about rookie Sanchez torching the Texans secondary.

Dont worry, be happy. :ant:
 
I saw that ankle problem Schaub had during the Vikings game. I know the Jets saw it too because Vernon Gholston made a comment about playing a QB with a bad ankle. I think the Jets are going to want to see how that ankle really feels.

Schaub completed every pass he attempted after the ankle injury tweak in the Vikings game.
 
K.Rhodes25 said:
I saw that ankle problem Schaub had during the Vikings game. I know the Jets saw it too because Vernon Gholston made a comment about playing a QB with a bad ankle. I think the Jets are going to want to see how that ankle really feels.
Not trying to be an ass here, but so what? It's not like they were going to take it easy on him, but now that they know he had a sprained ankle they've decided to try and sack him.
 
Schaub completed every pass he attempted after the ankle injury tweak in the Vikings game.
He also had one of the better games of his career when he came back from last years knee injury on the road against the Packers. That was an instance where folks wondered if he was coming back too soon, and might therefore be vulnerable.

Hopefully, he'll respond to all the current concerns the same way he did in Lambeau field last year.
 
michaelm said:
I saw that ankle problem Schaub had during the Vikings game. I know the Jets saw it too because Vernon Gholston made a comment about playing a QB with a bad ankle. I think the Jets are going to want to see how that ankle really feels.
Not trying to be an ass here, but so what? It's not like they were going to take it easy on him, but now that they know he had a sprained ankle they've decided to try and sack him.
And another thing...
Gholston who?
 
Schaub completed every pass he attempted after the ankle injury tweak in the Vikings game.

And the key word here is "tweak". How many times have you rolled an ankle or tweaked it, you hobble for a couple of hours and stay off it a day or two but it is usually something you can heal from pretty quickly. I dont' think that Schaub starting was ever a serious question, I also think had that game against the Vikes been a regular season game he would have stayed on the field.

I expect the D to come after Schaub not matter what, and Gholston needs to close his yapper and worry about just showing up and playing a decent game. :whip:
 
I saw that ankle problem Schaub had during the Vikings game. I know the Jets saw it too because Vernon Gholston made a comment about playing a QB with a bad ankle. I think the Jets are going to want to see how that ankle really feels.

I saw it too. but gholston has had about the same impact as i have on qb's in the league.

Making observations is about all he has been good for so far
 
I'm not worried about Matt Schaub's ankle. I'm not worried about Steve Slaton and the running game. I'm not worried about Andre Johnson, Kevin Walter or Owen Daniels and I'm not worried about the Texans offense.

I'm worried about the Jets rushing for 200+ yards and I'm worried about rookie Sanchez torching the Texans secondary.

That has to be the 2 biggest concers. Sanchez look the part to me. His pocket awarness is surprisingly good IMO. If NY'S D turns out to be anything like Baltimores and the running game stays consistant we could be looking at the next Joe Namath. I just hope it takes them till week 2 to figure it all out.
 
I saw it too. but gholston has had about the same impact as i have on qb's in the league.

Making observations is about all he has been good for so far

Agreed.

"Casper the Friendly Ghost" needs to worry more about himself, and actually making a play every once in awhile, rather than Schaub's ankle. :lion:
 
It sounds like they've been holding a lot back. Base formations are there, but all the complexities are held until the real bullets come out.
complexities like making a tackle? When the Saints back gashed that long TD run vs the team we were in basically a 4-6 formation, shooting all the gaps. What we didn't have was guys like Adibi and the S taking good angles and making solid tackles.
 
complexities like making a tackle? When the Saints back gashed that long TD run vs the team we were in basically a 4-6 formation, shooting all the gaps. What we didn't have was guys like Adibi and the S taking good angles and making solid tackles.

I think they solved the LB issue with Diles starting but I am terrified of our safeties. Not many SS in the league are incapable of covering and tackling. Other than Roy Williams, DBarber is about the only one I can think of that has shown zero ability to do either!

I'm thinking back fondly to the days of Eric Davis!
 
complexities like making a tackle? When the Saints back gashed that long TD run vs the team we were in basically a 4-6 formation, shooting all the gaps. What we didn't have was guys like Adibi and the S taking good angles and making solid tackles.

Vinny, what defense where we in when the Peterson ran for the 75 yard TD? What ever that alignment was it was the same for the Saints 46 yard TD. It was the same formation by both teams and I fully expect the Jets to run the same play to see if we give them the same look.
 
It sounds like they've been holding a lot back. Base formations are there, but all the complexities are held until the real bullets come out.

OK, so what happens when the opposing offenses suddenly unleash their complexities? I sure didn't see anything exotic from the Saints or the Vikings. Effective, yes, but not exotic. Vanilla is the flavor of the entire league in the preseason (except for Jeff Fisher's peculiar desire to run exotic trick plays in August), and our vanilla got roasted.
 
Vinny, what defense where we in when the Peterson ran for the 75 yard TD? What ever that alignment was it was the same for the Saints 46 yard TD. It was the same formation by both teams and I fully expect the Jets to run the same play to see if we give them the same look.
did you just look at it or are you just guessing? I'd have to look at it myself.
 
I saw it too. but gholston has had about the same impact as i have on qb's in the league.

Making observations is about all he has been good for so far

Actually I have been surprised with how Gholston has played this preseason, his pass rushing is much improved. He was getting good pressure on Eli Manning when we played the Giants, and against the Eagles he had a great game though against backups.

I'm interested to see if he can carries over the momentum of preseason to this game. We need him to step it up with Pace and Ellis out.
 
I was very please to see that Reeves should be back against Jets. Having two starters coming off injuries and Bennett not showing much improvement so far this year, I am very concerned about corners. It would be sweet to see our CBs tested this year early and come up with some turn overs.
 
That's Bennett up top on the line, then Wilson, Diles on the bottom side; Ryans and Adibi at MLB. McClain (or whatever his name is, 41) playing CB deep.

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That's Bennett up top on the line, then Wilson, Diles on the bottom side; Ryans and Adibi at MLB. McClain (or whatever his name is, 41) playing CB deep.
looks like ten men on the field for us or am I just counting wrong? I can count 11 Vikings.
 
Good news on Schaub though I think most of us expected he'd get the start.

Really would've liked to see Dunta come in a little earlier then he did , but I'll take what I can get when it comes to improving the secondary and someone who can tackle at least.

Good new on Reeves as well. Hopefully Bennett will show up across from Dunta this week.

I've heard the vanilla defense excuse before on how the it looked in pre-season. Prove to me this is actually the case this year, because until I see it I can only think we'll see Dick Smith's version of what a defense looks like. I hope a healthy Cushing makes a big impact on our Lbing corps.
 
complexities like making a tackle? When the Saints back gashed that long TD run vs the team we were in basically a 4-6 formation, shooting all the gaps. What we didn't have was guys like Adibi and the S taking good angles and making solid tackles.

Yeah, there was a lot of this talk from the staff after the Saints game too. That they saw what the Saints were doing but weren't going to pull out the tools yet to combat it.

Whatever the complexities, I'm with you on the tackling and just the basically not blowing your assignment thing. They looked confused and overmatched.

I'm not liking this talk at all:

(on if we will see more of an aggressive Frank Bush defense) "I would definitely say that we started building towards that over the last couple preseason games. Now that D-Rob (Dunta Robinson) and is back, (LB Brian) Cushing is back, you're going to see a more intense style of defense. If you talk to Frank Bush, he wants one of those types of defenses that like Buddy Ryan had back in the day in Chicago Bears. Just fly around and hit people. Maybe get some flags or whatever, but you want to let people know that you came to play and its going to be a real physical game."

Physical I'm good with. Stupid I'm not. They are already going to have difficulties getting close calls going their way because of all the young players, and not having much of a rep other than being sorry.

Bush was talking at the luncheon the other day about blowing people up but at least in the MNF game they look like they missed some tackles because they were trying to take the kill shot.

So what do you think the over/under on the tough guy fights are on Sunday?
 
looks like ten men on the field for us or am I just counting wrong? I can count 11 Vikings.

I count 10 as well. Is there a safety back really deep that just isn't pictured? Or did the Texans really only line up 10 men? I have erased that game from my DVR so I can't go back and look at the play.
 
One thing I did like to see in the preseason was tipped balls by the defensive line. IIRC, this is something they were working on more with Kollar. Being able to time that if they couldn't get to the QB in time. (Don't know where I know that from).

I don't know if there is any place that tracks stats of tipped balls, but I don't recall the Texans as being particularly good at doing that.
 
Yeah, there was a lot of this talk from the staff after the Saints game too. That they saw what the Saints were doing but weren't going to pull out the tools yet to combat it.

Whatever the complexities, I'm with you on the tackling and just the basically not blowing your assignment thing. They looked confused and overmatched.

I'm not liking this talk at all:



Physical I'm good with. Stupid I'm not. They are already going to have difficulties getting close calls going their way because of all the young players, and not having much of a rep other than being sorry.

Bush was talking at the luncheon the other day about blowing people up but at least in the MNF game they look like they missed some tackles because they were trying to take the kill shot.

So what do you think the over/under on the tough guy fights are on Sunday?

Playing physical in the NFL these days will occasionally draw penalty flags due to the 40 different rules on how not to hit somebody.
 
Playing physical in the NFL these days will occasionally draw penalty flags due to the 40 different rules on how not to hit somebody.
But are not most them to eliminate illegal blocks (Schaub and Wilson) or the wedge which led to the player neck injury? You can still tackle a guy without ending his career or life.
 
I've heard the vanilla defense excuse before on how the it looked in pre-season. Prove to me this is actually the case this year, because until I see it I can only think we'll see Dick Smith's version of what a defense looks like.

I guess we're seeing different things.
I've seen a ton of things this preseason that don't look like anything that Dick Smith put on the field.
Mostly, it's differences in what the front seven is doing (or front eight, really because we've been showing more eight men in the box looks than before, IMO).
For starters, the front 7-8 is really mixing up their pre-snap alignments, showing different looks.
They've been showing a lot of pre-snap blitz looks, then mixing it up alot as to weather they actually blitz or drop out of the blitz at the snap.
I think this gives a 4-3 alignment one of the advantages of a 3-4 alignment, which is to show the offense a lot of guys who could be coming at the snap, and then mixing up who actually does come at the snap.
That's the big thing with the 3-4. You can't really get a handle on where the fifth or sixth rusher is going to come from.
Basically all I remember from Smith's defense last year is that we would invariable see one LB (DeMeco) lining up in a blitz look, and then he would almost always drop out of it. IIRC, the times he actually blitzed (few), he wasn't showing a pre-snap blitz look, and usually those were delayed blitzes.
All in all, I think it's going to look completely different. Whether it's a 46 look or a standard 4-3 under with an extra man in or out of the box, I think you're going to see a lot of pre-snap looks to camouflage the actual call. Plus a lot more blitzing in general.
 
That has to be the 2 biggest concers. Sanchez look the part to me. His pocket awarness is surprisingly good IMO. If NY'S D turns out to be anything like Baltimores and the running game stays consistant we could be looking at the next Joe Namath. I just hope it takes them till week 2 to figure it all out.
Jets fans probably hope he doesn't look like Namath. Probably one of the more overrated passers ever.
The Jets DL is my biggest concern. 3-4 Ds give us fits.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NamaJo00.htm
 
Jets fans probably hope he doesn't look like Namath. Probably one of the more overrated passers ever.
The Jets DL is my biggest concern. 3-4 Ds give us fits.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NamaJo00.htm
That was a different era when you could club a receiver anywhere on the field and there were different rules about hitting QB's. You can't compare stats from one era to the next like you can in baseball where there is not nearly as much evolution in their rules. Namath was a fabulous QB.
 
Vinny, what defense where we in when the Peterson ran for the 75 yard TD? What ever that alignment was it was the same for the Saints 46 yard TD. It was the same formation by both teams and I fully expect the Jets to run the same play to see if we give them the same look.

I don't remember for sure, but I don't think so.
If I remember correctly, we had Diles on the right side.
It was a CB was on the other side that makes it look like a 46 D.

But I'd have to look at it again to be sure.
Man, my memory is terrible!
 
That was a different era when you could club a receiver anywhere on the field and there were different rules about hitting QB's. You can't compare stats from one era to the next like you can in baseball where there is not nearly as much evolution in their rules. Namath was a fabulous QB.
I agree with the evolution part, but we can agree to disagree about Namath. I was also comparing him with contemporaries, not just by modern standards at the position.
 
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I count 10 as well. Is there a safety back really deep that just isn't pictured? Or did the Texans really only line up 10 men? I have erased that game from my DVR so I can't go back and look at the play.

Yeah there was a deep safety back there.
I can't remember who that was, I had reviewed that play!
Wilson was on the line with Diles.
Crap, my memory is really really bad!
 
I don't remember for sure, but I don't think so.
If I remember correctly, we had Diles on the right side.
It was a CB was on the other side that makes it look like a 46 D.

But I'd have to look at it again to be sure.
Man, my memory is terrible!
I'm pretty sure it was Barber, but I can't figure out if he is beside DeMeco when I look at the pic (the two guys lined up on the 30yd line)
 
complexities like making a tackle? When the Saints back gashed that long TD run vs the team we were in basically a 4-6 formation, shooting all the gaps. What we didn't have was guys like Adibi and the S taking good angles and making solid tackles.

I agree, that tackling is an area of big concern. I also agree 46 defensive alignment "should" be one of those "secrets" you don't show too early. But, we obviously needed/need full game speed practice.

looks like ten men on the field for us or am I just counting wrong? I can count 11 Vikings.

Barber is playing way back.

As far as tackling goes, not one Texans laid a hand on AD on that play. The main issue was that Adibi over pursued, and tried to hit the same hole Ryans was filling.

McCain could get around his WR block.....

Next to poor gap assignment by Adibi, Barber overpursuing to the play side also appeared to be a problem.

You play the 46, when you're expecting a run. This was the first play from scrimmage, 1st & 10, They're lined up in the I with 2 WRs on the weak side. Looks like run. When the ball is snapped, the QB turns around and sticks the ball way out there. Looks like run... the Full back, & the tailback make a B-Line to the strong side, and are quickly met with our SAM, Safety, LDE, & 3 tech. There's no where to go. The Full back sees this, and breaks off into the first cutback hole, which is created behind Amobi Okoye.

I'd like to take the time here, to say that Diles did an excellent job pushing the Tighend 2 yards behind the LOS, and turning him into the play. Because of this, the play is turned back inside, there is no chance for the run to bounce to the outside.

Antonio Smith also does a good job of standing up the LT. As Okoye did standing up the LG. They are both on the LOS, not getting pushed back an inch. Antonio Smith was lined up just inside the hash mark & when the fullback broke his route, Antonio was on top of the hash mark. Meaning he was moved to the left. Maybe a little more than a foot. Same thing with Okoye, he may have been moved a foot to the playside. But they both dug in and held their ground.

Sean Cody is playing the nose on this play. At the snap of the ball, he doesn't lay a hand on the center. Which IMHO is unexcusable. He is lined up directly over the Center. The Center has no obstruction to Demeco Ryans, and lays a helmet on him. Cody is caught by the RG, and is moved quite a ways to the left. The guard is pushing him to the left, and he's trying to get around the guard to the left at the same time. The Fullback makes it past him, but there's no way Peterson would have. Adibi is right behind Cody. If there was a gap there, maybe he could have sneaked in behind the Center, and nailed Peterson in the backfield... but there wasn't. He decides to go over the Center/DeMeco block, and follow the fullback.

So, AD cuts back into the second cut back lane, formed to the right of Cody. This lane was created by the RG attacking Cody from the side, and pushing him to the left, and the RT standing up to Mario Williams. Mario was doing a fine job of pushing him into the Pile, but one of the two recievers came back and threw a "crack block" right at Mario's hip, knocking Mario off balance, and by the time he recovered, the play was past him.

After getting through this hole, Peterson heads straight up between the hashmarks. McCain is trying to fight his way to the left side of a pretty good Bobby Wade block. Peterson then breaks off to the right, and there's nothing McCain can do.

When Barber finally shows up into the picture, he is so far to the left of the left hashmarks, I've got to assume he was so far on the play side, that he followed the fullback into the first cutback lane.

IMHO, he should have been able to read the play, and make a line from where he lined up, 13 yards back, on the left hash mark to that second cut back lane, before Peterson got to McCain... but he didn't.
 
did you just look at it or are you just guessing? I'd have to look at it myself.

I looked, but I couldn't tell what defense it was. On both plays Mario was the weak side, Okam was the on the nose vs the Saints and Cody vs the Vikings, Okoye was the other DT on both plays and Smith was the strong side DE. Diles was the strong side LB, Ryans the MLB and Adibi on the weak side. What I noticed was that on both plays Mario and Antonio switched sides and Adibi and Diles switched side also pre-snap. I have the Saints game on DVR but don't have the Vikings game. My observations came from the live game (on tv) and the multiple replays of the Petersen TD run.
 
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