IBleedTexans
Superbowl Bound
Just happened on a bootleg run by matt . Hope it's nothing serious!!!!
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Matt limps off field vs Vikings
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IBleedTexans
Superbowl Bound
I think you guys are going to far he probaly got a minor tweek but as far as his toughness I think he proved alot tonight . Staying in against that Vikings defense says alot about his passion for the game period . I'm tired of everyone ragging on matt he's a hell of a player and when he plays well every one jumps on the bandwagon
I think it is fair to say that he is a good player when healthy and has a tendency to miss games because of injury. Since there was no "dirty hit" excuse on this injury, I think that concern over his durability is warranted. This appears minor, but is it a portent of things to come?
If Matt misses any of the regular season due to this injury, the sky will officially be falling.
Had it been a regular season game, I think he would have played on the ankle. He looked pretty good in that last series taking us down the field. It was the pre-season, he ended the night well with two positive possessions, there was no reason to put him back in the game.
Had it been a regular season game, I think he would have played on the ankle. He looked pretty good in that last series taking us down the field. It was the pre-season, he ended the night well with two positive possessions, there was no reason to put him back in the game.
DexmanC
Hall of Fame
Umm... Using $800 words here?
I think the word "sign" would go well with us common folk. I ain't got no
degree!
Well OK, he limped off the field from turning his ankle. But I guess it wasn't noticed that he also limped back on, and took the team downfield ??
I guess my biggest test this season will be to try to avoid the negative nellies.
I'll fail it unmiserably.
I guess my biggest test this season will be to try to avoid the negative nellies.
I'll fail it unmiserably.
stingray
Hall of Fame
Umm... Using $800 words here?
I think the word "sign" would go well with us common folk. I ain't got no
degree!
So that is what it means? I thought that's how rednecks pronounced "important".
imatexan
All Pro
Come on Herv, you seem to be really doom and gloom.
I understand you have your reasons but lets wait for what the Texans show us during the first few games of the regular season!
MEGA SWATT
All Pro
We should nickname him saltine, a little twist and all that's left is crumbs.
DexmanC said:
Umm... Using $800 words here?
I think the word "sign" would go well with us common folk. I ain't got no
degree!
Portent is only worth about $125. While "sign" is a synonym, it does not carry the connotations of evil and calamity that portent does. Portent was therefore the more efficient and descriptive word choice.
Warning or omen may have been good options, although augury would have been even less clear than portent.
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
He said the rubber out of bounds caught his foot and he tweaked the ankle. Doesn't sound serious but also doesn't make you feel good when part of the sidelines is hurting you.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
Every ding Schaub has this year will necessitate the sky falling crowd to come out of the woodwork with the torches, pitchforks and AK-47s.
Silver Oak
All Pro
I thought the guy diving at his feet caught the back of his leg, but my angle was skewed.
Silver Oak
All Pro
and I don't get it. other NFL qb's lost time the past two years and there isn't the same talk of fragility.
I guess I expect more of our fans to not listen to the reporters copy and paste stories, than to fall in line with this crap.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
I was pissed while watching it unfold that the staff did not take him out just for precaution, as I have always felt that Schaub once dinged tries to go back out and either hurts himself more, or the team. As fate would have it, however ugly as it was, he led that team down the field for a red zone TD. Just as Ryans was starting to take over the game on the D side of the field, it was nice to see the titular leader of the Offense sack it up and get the result. For the first time in a long time I saw two players providing directional inspiration, for their respective units.
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
No, he missed..according to Schaub in the paper, the turf or rubber just caught his foot.
Hardcore Texan
Magnet Man
Durability is a concern no matter how we slice it, but to say last year's injuries weren't cheap shots is disingenuous, Allen was freakin' fined for them, they WERE cheap and dirty.
jlam
Waterboy
Just a thought from an outside point of view since I was thinking about it last night while watching the game, but after seeing the replays of the low hits on Schaub from Allen, I thought the first one was pretty legitimately unavoidable as he appeared to have really lost his balance and was stumbling forward and downward towards Schaub. I couldn't tell if he was pushed or if he was just tripping over himself from trying too hard to get there, but it didn't look dirty to me.
The second one looked dirty and certainly avoidable, and I'd be pissed about it if it were my team's QB. I can't help but wonder, though, that if the second hit hadn't taken place if the league would have fined him for the first one. I kind of doubt they would have.
Porky
Hall of Fame
Make all the excuses you guys want, but Matt Schaubalier is the reincarnation of Chris Chandalier. Say what you want about Favre, but the guy has played in every game since being a starter. What, he's never run out of bounds or had a dirty hit? Yet, he has been there play after play, week after week, year after year. How about Paymeaton Manning. How many games has he missed? Until last year, Tom Brady was durable as hell. Going back, look at guys like John Elway and Joe Montana. They rarely missed starts. Sure, these guys all generally had great lines, but all of them took hits. All of them had to scramble out of bounds. All of them got sacked or took late hits. It goes with the territory.
Let's face it guys, Schaub is made of glass. It's like going to the museum, don't touch, look only. Maybe if we put a sign on him - you break it, you buy it.
Let's face it guys, Schaub is made of glass. It's like going to the museum, don't touch, look only. Maybe if we put a sign on him - you break it, you buy it.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Make all the excuses you guys want, but Matt Schaubalier is the reincarnation of Chris Chandalier. Say what you want about Favre, but the guy has played in every game since being a starter. What, he's never run out of bounds or had a dirty hit? Yet, he has been there play after play, week after week, year after year. How about Paymeaton Manning. How many games has he missed? Until last year, Tom Brady was durable as hell. Going back, look at guys like John Elway and Joe Montana. They rarely missed starts. Sure, these guys all generally had great lines, but all of them took hits. All of them had to scramble out of bounds. All of them got sacked or took late hits. It goes with the territory.
Let's face it guys, Schaub is made of glass. It's like going to the museum, don't touch, look only. Maybe if we put a sign on him - you break it, you buy it.
That's Crystal Chandelier to you....
Seriously though, I'm not quite ready to pin that on Schaub but it's getting close. I'm not going to freak out over every little ding he gets but he really needs to show some toughness. The guys you mentioned are/were some tough hombres not to mention watching Dan Pastorini as a kid.
Goatcheese
Texan
If he misses 5 games this season I may start calling him Matty ice pack. For now, it's a minor injury that he played through for two drives after it happened. Not really something I'm worrying about.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
If he misses 5 games this season I may start calling him Matty ice pack. For now, it's a minor injury that he played through for two drives after it happened. Not really something I'm worrying about.
His injury issues are a bit disconcerting, but that drive with :27 left in the half was not. Props to OD too.
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GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
Yep. He played through it. Matt has definitely shown toughness. I don't know why people say he doesn't. He always tries to play through the injury. He'll be fine.
And he would have stayed in but its a pre season game. Precautionary.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Sure, he's tough (as any football player should be), but what does that have to do with his body's ability to remain injury free?
Maybe Schaub has never HAD to play through injury before, so he isn't comfortable with it and can't distinguish between pain and injury. Last night could've helped in that area. Yeah, the ankle hurt, but they had so damn much tape on it, he wasn't making it worse. I dunno. Maybe I'm reaching here.
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
Does anybody remember Tom Brady being in a boot the week before the Super Bowl vs. the Giants? Does anybody remember Tom Brady having a sore shoulder after the last New England preseason game.
Kyle Orton has a cut finger, Matt Cassell has a sprained knee, Brett Favre has cracked ribs (maybe) (kind of) (oh, okay - probably he doesn't).
If you expect your NFL QB not to be dinged, then you can exclude virtually everybody who ever played (including Favre a number of times when he was in GB).
QB's (and all NFL players) get dinged! Yeah, I wish it wouldn't have been without being hit, but turning an ankle while running isn't exactly an injury that's never happened to NFL level players before - particularly when, as it appears in this case - it doesn't cost playing time.
Schaub goes into this season needing to demonstrate he can be relied upon to start 16 games a season. Nothing has caused me to believe more or less than I did 24 hours ago that he'll do that.
Kyle Orton has a cut finger, Matt Cassell has a sprained knee, Brett Favre has cracked ribs (maybe) (kind of) (oh, okay - probably he doesn't).
If you expect your NFL QB not to be dinged, then you can exclude virtually everybody who ever played (including Favre a number of times when he was in GB).
QB's (and all NFL players) get dinged! Yeah, I wish it wouldn't have been without being hit, but turning an ankle while running isn't exactly an injury that's never happened to NFL level players before - particularly when, as it appears in this case - it doesn't cost playing time.
Schaub goes into this season needing to demonstrate he can be relied upon to start 16 games a season. Nothing has caused me to believe more or less than I did 24 hours ago that he'll do that.
Hooston Texan
Rookie
According to Kubiak, Schaub wanted to play in the Indy game and the second half at Minnesota last year, but Kubes said no. In the Minnesota game, Schaub should have left after Allen's second knee-shot (the really egregious one), but he played the entire half. He was clearly affected by the injury, and it hurt his play.
At Virginia, Schaub separated his throwing shoulder in the first game of his senior year (not the same shoulder he injured in 2007). He missed two games after that. The shoulder clearly bothered him for most of the rest of the season, but he didn't miss a snap once he returned. He played well, but not nearly as well as he did during his break-out junior season. So, yes, the guy has had to play hurt before.
The only way he's going to quiet the "can he stay healthy" doubters--which includes pretty much everyone at this point--is to stay healthy. My concern is that his eagerness to prove that could have resulted in a more serious injury last night.
hollywood_texan
All Pro
Agreed.
There is a durability issue with Schaub, but these ankle sprains happen from time to time to a lot of players. My point is, I wouldn't connect this injury to his other injury concerns.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Folks who live in tornado alley tend to get nervous when storm clouds darken. Same principle here, so its useless to tell everyone to calm down when they see Schaub limping.
He DID play through it. The coach pulled him because it was pre season. He would have played in the regular season.
BigBull17 said:
I know he did. That is the example I was using to highlight the difference between toughness and durability. I state they are two different things.
I did not say Schaub wasn't tough.
My writing must be much more unclear than I think lately. I've been getting a lot of arguments about things I didn't say.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Well, at least it's you instead of me. I posted basically the same thing earlier.
eriadoc
Texan-American
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
They're saying he's at 99% to be ready for the Jets.
IBleedTexans
Superbowl Bound
Just brought this thread back to make some folks eat it . Lol j/k , but in all seriousness he did make it thru the entire season . Played hurt one game, maybe he's not made of glass after all.
Section516
Warrior
SHHH! YOU WILL ANGER THE GODS! 
Hardcore Texan
Magnet Man
Ha ha, I loved reading some of the replies, so many people were throwing Matt under the bus after one tweaked ankle.