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Running back depth chart

valleytexfan

valleytexfan

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With Slaton entrenched as the starter, who would you like to see as the backups/other backs? Moats? Foster? Brown? J. Johnson? Just curious to see what y'all think
 
1. Slaton
2a. Moats
2b. Foster
PS: J. Johnson

I'd probably cut injury prone Chris Brown just because he reminds me too much of Ahman Green. Good back when healthy, but never healthy...
 
Moats will back-up Slayton.

Casey will back-up Leach.

Arian will surprise & make active roster.

Chris Brown released.

Jeremiah Johnson stashed on practice squad.

:texflag:
 
Moats/Brown will start the season as the #2a/2b RBs

Foster is likely "ahead" right now since Johnson just got here. He'll go to the practice squad ...assuming we can sneak him thru waivers

Casey as the Leach B/U sounds right to me too

Brown probably won't make it to the bye week but Foster will be ready by then.

Note:
assessments subject to change following training camp/preseason
 
1 Slaton
2 Brown
3 J. Johnson
4 Foster

I never was a big Moats fan. I dont really want Chris Brown, but I know they want to save face on the signing and they will give him the shot if he is healthy for real this time.

Im also about Jeremiah Johnsons biggest fan on this board, so I am probably biased.
 
TimeKiller said:
For me:

1 Slaton
2 Moats
3 Foster/Johnson whoeva wins the spot, the other to PS

Chris Brown's career is toast.
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Slaton will do even better this year and make the pro bowl. :)

And yeah, Chris Brown is gone. As to the rest of 'em, it just depends on what happens in camp and pre-season, so I'm not making any bets there. Wouldn't suprise me at all to see one of those rookies be the primary backup to Slaton. Moats have never really impressed me, but that could change in August.
 
Y'all can wait anxiously for the AP report of Chris Brown's new injury but until it comes he is #2 on the depth chart.
 
He talked about how Glen Coffee could have been the Texans 3rd round pick had he not been picked by the 49ers a few picks before the Texans selected Antoine Caldwell.
http://www.examiner.com/x-778-Houst...m6d17-Kubiak-delivers-at-Touchdown-Club-event
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Speaking of running backs, here's a little gem of information I don't ever recall being disclosed by the Kubiak regime ? An admission of "who they would have taken instead of" had this happened or not happened in the most recent Draft. I think its especially interesting to see that they were prepared
to make an equivalent investment to Slaton in his "backup".
BTW, I'd love to see the Texans full Board on the 2009 Draft class ?
 
Thorn said:
Moats have never really impressed me, but that could change in August.
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I thought he played well but I seem to remember it being garbage time yards so...whatev...Still has to outplay the youngins to keep his spot. I thought he was very quick with the ball though.

infantrycak said:
Y'all can wait anxiously for the AP report of Chris Brown's new injury but until it comes he is #2 on the depth chart.
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You can put CB #2 on your fake roster list but until he outrushes Matt Turk as a Houston Texan I'll keep him completely off of mine.
 
beerlover said:
Moats will back-up Slayton.

Casey will back-up Leach.

Arian will surprise & make active roster.

Chris Brown released.

Jeremiah Johnson stashed on practice squad.

:texflag:
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Exactly, unless JJones is a wash out and JJohnson can return. Then maybe Brown makes final cut if healthy. It is hard to ignore Brown's stats.
 
1 Slaton (obvious)

2 C Brown (until he inevitably gets hurt)

3 A Foster (eventually the #2; will get more carries as season goes)

4 J Johnson (too good to sneak onto PS; 3rd down guy)

Cut--Moats and Dawson

I think we carry 4 backs even if Brown makes it through camp healthy and is ready week 1, he's a ticking time bomb for injury.

I think Boomer Grigsby is gonna win the back up FB job and we'll just have to carry 4 TE's w/ Casey
 
TimeKiller said:
I thought he played well but I seem to remember it being garbage time yards so...whatev...Still has to outplay the youngins to keep his spot. I thought he was very quick with the ball though.



You can put CB #2 on your fake roster list but until he outrushes Matt Turk as a Houston Texan I'll keep him completely off of mine.
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I don't think it's Cak's roster but the team depth chart. I agree that Chris Brown should be listed as #2 back until TC.
 
nunusguy said:
He talked about how Glen Coffee could have been the Texans 3rd round pick had he not been picked by the 49ers a few picks before the Texans selected Antoine Caldwell.
http://www.examiner.com/x-778-Houst...m6d17-Kubiak-delivers-at-Touchdown-Club-event
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Speaking of running backs, here's a little gem of information I don't ever recall being disclosed by the Kubiak regime ? An admission of "who they would have taken instead of" had this happened or not happened in the most recent Draft. I think its especially interesting to see that they were prepared
to make an equivalent investment to Slaton in his "backup".
BTW, I'd love to see the Texans full Board on the 2009 Draft class ?
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man, I was high on coffee....all they got me was the decaf FA :foottap:

Vinny said:
Vinny said:
Watching lots of Bama has made me a bit of a Glen Coffee fan. He runs with an attitude.
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awtysst said:
And coffee slides off the board.
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yeah, damn them! perhaps his Center deserved all the credit? :pirate:
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Vinny said:
man, I was high on coffee....all they got me was the decaf FA :foottap:
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Vinny, you are going to be so thrilled when Kubes say's "Coffee who?" plus we have a real strong Olineman in Caldwell. I know I make sarcastic comments about not drafting a back but this is going to all work out fine. Nothing can go wrong, go wrong, go wron...:smiliedance:
 
badboy said:
I don't think it's Cak's roster but the team depth chart. I agree that Chris Brown should be listed as #2 back until TC.
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I thought we were all just posting our own thoughts.

My thought is Matt Turk has outrushed Chris Brown as a Houston Texan, therefore, Matt Turk will be my #2 long before any injury reports come out. What a crazy asshole I am right? I'd like to see 10 measly yards out of a guy before I hand him a big role in the offense, what unbelievable standards I am asking to be upheld.
 
TimeKiller said:
I thought we were all just posting our own thoughts.

My thought is Matt Turk has outrushed Chris Brown as a Houston Texan, therefore, Matt Turk will be my #2 long before any injury reports come out. What a crazy asshole I am right? I'd like to see 10 measly yards out of a guy before I hand him a big role in the offense, what unbelievable standards I am asking to be upheld.
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Did anyone say you couldn't have an opinion or even address you. My post didn't quote you and started with a group "y'all." Now since you felt compelled to do your fake roster bit I will point out your whining or standards, unbelievable or not, is irrelevant. The Texans have repeatedly expressed Brown is their dude unless he gets hurt. That isn't an I like Brown statement or even an agreement that is the right decision - just an observation like the original comment.
 
m5kwatts said:
1 Slaton (obvious)

2 C Brown (until he inevitably gets hurt)

3 A Foster (eventually the #2; will get more carries as season goes)

4 J Johnson (too good to sneak onto PS; 3rd down guy)

Cut--Moats and Dawson
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I'm down with this. And Brown will get hurt before the first game of the season. In fact, I still don't understand why he's still on the roster. But I'll be the first to admit I've been wrong before...
 
TexansFanatic said:
I'm down with this. And Brown will get hurt before the first game of the season. In fact, I still don't understand why he's still on the roster. But I'll be the first to admit I've been wrong before...
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Well, IF Brown is healthy and back to form, he's an obvious #2 because of his experience and the fact that when he's healthy he's a damn good runner. But I still don't think he'll be on the team for long. His history is of injuries, and why would that would change as he's getting older?
 
Thorn said:
Well, IF Brown is healthy and back to form, he's an obvious #2 because of his experience and the fact that when he's healthy he's a damn good runner. But I still don't think he'll be on the team for long. His history is of injuries, and why would that would change as he's getting older?
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Right. And wasn't the most recent injury like a serious back injury? Like a ruptured disk or something really ugly like that?
 
I wanted to clear up some of the misconception about Arian. I keep reading and hearing how a knee surgery after his junior year kept him from performing. This is simply not true.

Arian had a torn meniscus repair on his left knee after his freshman year. Minor surgery. He also had a shoulder repaired that same year. He's had not one problem with the knee or shoulder since. His sophomore year was hampered somewhat by a high ankle sprain that lasted longer than it should've because he kept rushing it. After his junior year, they repaired the meniscus in his right knee...another minor surgery. It had no bearing on his senior year at all. He received a deep thigh bruise that he couldn't play on the week before the Wyoming game. This hit was so brutal that three weeks later, when I saw it, the inside of his thigh was still black and blue literally from his groin to his knee. It was ugly.

At UT in 2008, there were significant problems with the new coaching staff and the new system they were trying to run. It was complicated and difficult to teach, especially to the OL, and they never got acclimated the entire season. As the season wore on, most of the players were trying still to make it work but a myriad of problems that I don't think anyone saw coming totally destroyed what they were trying to do. It was a long and difficult season and everyone was strapped for carries, production, etc. Arian was returning from a 1000+ yd season, Lucas Taylor, the WR, was returning from a 1000+ yd season, the OL had allowed only four sacks the entire season in '07. And then it all fell apart. Arian started the season rushing for an average of 7.1 ypc. By the fourth game, his carries were cut in half. Against Georgia, he got the ball THREE times the whole game. Lucas Taylor finished with 332 receiving yards, nearly a third of the previous year. The OL gave up 25 sacks. It was ugly.

This had more to do with the dive in production, not any injuries. Arian's played through injuries all his career. Both torn meniscus injuries happened at the beginning of the season, but he played all the way through it both times. The shoulder kept falling out of place so we wore the brace all season as well. The other one was troublesome too but they were able to restrengthen the tendons and muscles around that joint to the point where he has no issues with it now. That credit belongs to the UT trainers who did wonders with that issue.

Just to set the record straight.
 
Thanks so much for this. This is the sort of inside stuff we fans need to hear about.

I'm really psyched about your son being a Texan. :texflag:
 
When should we expect Denver to drop a RB or two? If that plays out like alot of people think it will.... I think Moats, C. Brown, Foster, Johnson, and possibly a Denver pick up will give us plenty of competition for the #2 RB spot this year.
 
Tailgate said:
When should we expect Denver to drop a RB or two? If that plays out like alot of people think it will.... I think Moats, C. Brown, Foster, Johnson, and possibly a Denver pick up will give us plenty of competition for the #2 RB spot this year.
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They may drop one or two before training camp but I don't expect them to start getting rid of them until training camp is in full swing.

So don't hold your breath.
 
As I said on draft day this is going to be a problem for the Texans. I voiced my displeasure at the second and third round picks for this reason...lack of depth at running back. Without the running game its gonna be a long season. We have been around here for a while and have seen what Kubiak's offense looks like without a running game ( ie Ron Dayne and a one yd cloud of dust)

I still dont understand why the freaking heck we used our early draft picks to address positions we didnt need. ( I am still at a loss for the two TEs)

If Slaton gets tired or, heaven forbid something worse happens...are you gonna be glad we drafted another DE a center and two tight ends?

Heck they way some dudes talk about him freaking Connor Barwin can easily get us 1000 yds..but that is for another thread.


Here is my rb depth chart:

1. Steve Slaton
2. Kubiak praying that Ron Dayne walks through the door.
 
I too wanted a power back drafted. Brown has everything but can't seem to stay on field. With any rookie we have to look at stats and potential, like the word or not. Jenning in the 4th would make me feel whole lot better. But we did not get him. Foster has everything especially potentail. let's wait and see.
 
infantrycak said:
Did anyone say you couldn't have an opinion or even address you.
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Is that a question? I wasn't addressing you with that post, that was for who I quoted who did in fact address me directly.
My post didn't quote you and started with a group "y'all."
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Well, I think Brown's career is over because he can't stay healthy, so I guess that would make me part of "y'all" right?
Now since you felt compelled to do your fake roster bit I will point out your whining or standards, unbelievable or not, is irrelevant.
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We are all giving who we think should be listed right? Seeing as how I don't set the actual rosters my roster is fake. The whole purpose of this thread is to put who you think it will be. And by the way, my standard? Playing 1 f'ing game? Ahman Green thinks this guy is done. Acting as if health plays no part in a roster is way out in left field.
The Texans have repeatedly expressed Brown is their dude unless he gets hurt. That isn't an I like Brown statement or even an agreement that is the right decision - just an observation like the original comment.
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No kidding? The guy they gave a bunch of money to and is another in a growing list of bad players signed in free agency is their guy when it couldn't possibly matter less? Shocking.
 
My guess is, we'll carry 3 RB this season:
-Slaton
-Brown (if he can make it through TC)
-Moats (because he has experience with us)

Foster and Johnson will be shelved on the PS to hone their skills. I also think Johnson may go on IR to repair his shoulder sometime this season if it looks like he won't be needed. My thinking is, that sometime during the season, Brown will likely get hurt and then likely be IRed again or cut. Then Foster can take over for Brown. If I were a betting man, I don't think Brown makes 1/3 of the season. We'll see.
 
spurstexanstros said:
As I said on draft day this is going to be a problem for the Texans. I voiced my displeasure at the second and third round picks for this reason...lack of depth at running back. Without the running game its gonna be a long season. We have been around here for a while and have seen what Kubiak's offense looks like without a running game ( ie Ron Dayne and a one yd cloud of dust)

I still dont understand why the freaking heck we used our early draft picks to address positions we didnt need. ( I am still at a loss for the two TEs)

If Slaton gets tired or, heaven forbid something worse happens...are you gonna be glad we drafted another DE a center and two tight ends?

Heck they way some dudes talk about him freaking Connor Barwin can easily get us 1000 yds..but that is for another thread.


Here is my rb depth chart:

1. Steve Slaton
2. Kubiak praying that Ron Dayne walks through the door.
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Kubiak stated they would have drafted Glen Coffee in the 3rd but he was scooped up three picks before the Texans by the 49ers. that would have been a huge mistake IMO cause not only is Caldwell going to be more valueable & help solidify the OL who without the RB is nothing, they picked up two quality RB's who fill different roles undrafted who have equal skills to compliment Steve.

Barwin is the wildcard out of this draft, its risky, bold but the potential reward was too great for them to pass up. love both the TE picks & I'm sure you will too all in good time.
 
spurstexanstros said:
As I said on draft day this is going to be a problem for the Texans. I voiced my displeasure at the second and third round picks for this reason...lack of depth at running back. Without the running game its gonna be a long season. We have been around here for a while and have seen what Kubiak's offense looks like without a running game ( ie Ron Dayne and a one yd cloud of dust)

I still dont understand why the freaking heck we used our early draft picks to address positions we didnt need. ( I am still at a loss for the two TEs)

If Slaton gets tired or, heaven forbid something worse happens...are you gonna be glad we drafted another DE a center and two tight ends?

Heck they way some dudes talk about him freaking Connor Barwin can easily get us 1000 yds..but that is for another thread.


Here is my rb depth chart:

1. Steve Slaton
2. Kubiak praying that Ron Dayne walks through the door.
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And as *I* said on draft day, this draft class sucked. go back and review the overall draft. I think only 4-5 RBs were drafted on the first day. Coffee was the ONLY RB drafted in rd 3; once he was gone there was no one worthy of a 3rd rd pick. I ain't sorry that we got Caldwell as a 3rd rd consolation prize.

But in the interest of full disclosure, I was a bit worried too ...until I saw that we got Foster and Johnson for tryout money. If either one of them make the team (or even the PS) I think we did quite nicely, thank you.

And I'll go out on this skinny limb and predict that we'll get a good half season out of Brown. That's enough time for Foster or Johnson to pick up enough of our offense to step up to the main 53 when Brown finally does his annual gimp out.
 
spurstexanstros said:
As I said on draft day this is going to be a problem for the Texans. I voiced my displeasure at the second and third round picks for this reason...lack of depth at running back. Without the running game its gonna be a long season. We have been around here for a while and have seen what Kubiak's offense looks like without a running game ( ie Ron Dayne and a one yd cloud of dust)

I still dont understand why the freaking heck we used our early draft picks to address positions we didnt need. ( I am still at a loss for the two TEs)

If Slaton gets tired or, heaven forbid something worse happens...are you gonna be glad we drafted another DE a center and two tight ends?

Heck they way some dudes talk about him freaking Connor Barwin can easily get us 1000 yds..but that is for another thread.


Here is my rb depth chart:

1. Steve Slaton
2. Kubiak praying that Ron Dayne walks through the door.
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And as *I* said on draft day, this draft class sucked where RBs were concerned. I invite you to go back and review the overall draft. I think only 4-5 RBs were drafted on the first day. Coffee was the ONLY RB drafted in rd 3; once he was gone there was no one worthy of a 3rd rd pick.

I, for one, ain't sorry that we got Caldwell as a 3rd rd consolation prize. I ask you guys who follow the mocks and whatnot to tell us which of the leftover RBs (no revisionist history please - Wells, Coffee, Moreno, Brown, & McCoy are all gone) would you have picked instead of grabbing Caldwell (who represents a serious improvement in O-line depth) in the third round??

But in the interest of full disclosure, I will say that I was a bit worried too ...until I saw that we got Foster and Johnson for tryout money. If either one of them make the team (or even the PS) I think we did quite nicely, thank you.
 
I don't understand why Chris Brown is still on the team. I appreciate the talent & production that he showed 3 years ago, but that was three years ago. He hasn't really played football the last two years.


To me, this is one of the areas that Kubiak has got to fix. He waits, and waits, and waits..... on a player that eats up a roster spot. & this year, they're talking about carrying three QBs, three RBs...... so where are these extra spots going to come from.

Would a healthy Chris Brown help this team?

Sure he would, but so would a healthy Arian Foster. IMHO this is the guy who matches up with what Brown brings.

We did fine in '08 with Slaton & Moats, it works. As soon as Brown was healthy, I would've cut him. I know it sounds mean, but the guy hasn't played football in 2 years, how much better can he be than a rookie that's never played? The speed of the game, the little nuances of an offense, the freak'n smell of a defense, and what it's like to get hit..... those are the things that a rookie has to adjust to, and it's no different for Chris Brown. Why would you make him #2 on your depth chart, instead of putting a rookie #3 on that chart?

Don't get me wrong, I was a fan of the Chris Brown signing, even knowing that he had a history in Tennessee. But after two years, he's proven that we wasted our money and time, and he's just not capable of playing in the NFL. It sucks to lose your job because you got hurt...... but sometimes life is like that.

If I were Kubiak/Smith, Brown would be gone, Slaton, Moats, Foster would be the depth chart. Johnson would be slotted for the PS, and I'd have at least two other backs in training camp trying to get Fosters spot, or the PS spot.

Heck, I'd call Wali Lundy back before I put Brown on the active roster.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Chris Brown signed a 2-year $3.6 million contract with an $800,000 signing bonus. His cap hit this year is $1.4 million.
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This seems like a great reason to give him a chance to earn a spot on the team.

If Brown gets hurt again I hope Kubes doesn't waste a roster spot waiting on Brown to get healthy.
 
spurstexanstros said:
As I said on draft day this is going to be a problem for the Texans. I voiced my displeasure at the second and third round picks for this reason...lack of depth at running back. Without the running game its gonna be a long season. We have been around here for a while and have seen what Kubiak's offense looks like without a running game ( ie Ron Dayne and a one yd cloud of dust)

I still dont understand why the freaking heck we used our early draft picks to address positions we didnt need. ( I am still at a loss for the two TEs)

If Slaton gets tired or, heaven forbid something worse happens...are you gonna be glad we drafted another DE a center and two tight ends?

Heck they way some dudes talk about him freaking Connor Barwin can easily get us 1000 yds..but that is for another thread.


Here is my rb depth chart:

1. Steve Slaton
2. Kubiak praying that Ron Dayne walks through the dvolved eroor.
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While we had a good offense we did not score very many tds. So, what Kubes did was he got players that will help us in that area.

Our o line has been steadily improving but we still had a major hole at Center. Look back over Slaton's runs and tell me how many of them involved Myers getting thrown back into him. Caldwell is a strong, tough, smart center. He will be able to hold the point of attack and push forward. This will mean that those Steve Slaton loss of 2 yarrds or getting back to the line of scrimmage become a +2 or +3 yards. This may not sound like much but postive yardage=better opportunity for getting the first down.

Now, you mentioned we got 2 TEs, but look at what they do. One TE is a blocking machine. He will help us in the running and passing game by opening up holds and keeping Schaub up right. To be a playoff team we need Schaub in for all 16 games. Hill will be a great asset here. Now, Casey is a versatile playmaker. He can line up as a FB, RB, TE, Wild cat QB, etc. He will be able to open up holes or maybe even play as that goal line big back.

The other issue you must ask is who could you have taken?
The next two RBs came off in the fourth: Andre Brown and Gartrell Johnson. Then Frank Summers and Javon RInger in the 5th. I can tell you that the UDFAs we got Arian Foster and Jerimiah Johnson are just as good as either of these guys.

Good teams take great players and find room. Bad teams reach on need players and get burned. What we used was the right strategy and I think you will be pleasantly surprised with our players.

Also, remember, we are using the old Denver system. A system in which an effective o line was built which enabled numerous late round/ undrafted rbs to succeed.
 
steelbtexan said:
This seems like a great reason to give him a chance to earn a spot on the team.

If Brown gets hurt again I hope Kubes doesn't waste a roster spot waiting on Brown to get healthy.
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I'd bet he won't. If Brown gets hurt again, he's out.
 
gary said:
Who is he?
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Seemingly "flash in the pan" UT RB (and return "specialist) compadre of Sausage Boy got booted at the end of his junior year for a weed arrest and jailed just before the '06 NFL season. Short term, very short team (1 game) Arena ball as an RB, then within the past month was picked up by the CFL and just released before the CFL season...........

................just the type of player we need.:shades:

Addition: Just out of curiousity, looked up his weed arrest.............more than 5 pounds along with a nice stash of ammunition along with it.........
 
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awtysst said:
Also, remember, we are using the old Denver system. A system in which an effective o line was built which enabled numerous late round/ undrafted rbs to succeed.
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I think we should also remember that Denver system also used late round/undrafted talent on the OL as well.
 
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