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linkThe Houston Texans could soon be adding a new quarterback to a depth chart that became considerably weaker once Sage Rosenfels was traded to the Vikings.
Agent Drew Rosenhaus has announced that Rex Grossman, a first-round pick six years ago who has become largely forgotten during his stint on the free-agent shelf, will visit the Texans on Thursday night.
Rosenhaus said he anticipates that Grossman will sign a one-year deal.
If Rosenhaus is right, the former Bears starter will join Matt Schaub, Dan Orlovsky, and Alex Brink as the four quarterbacks heading into training camp.
The real question is whether Grossman is merely a camp arm or whether he has a legitimate shot at making the 53-man roster.
His chief competition likely will be Orlovsky, who signed as a free agent. So the options to serve as the backup to Matt Schaub (who missed five games in each of his two years as a starter) will be a guy who runs out of his own end zone, or a guy who stays in bounds and fires a deep ball that is caught by the other team.
What do you mean by that?but may indicate a 3 qb rotation.
Didn't mean rotation (still on baseball talk). 3 qb roster.What do you mean by that?
It is ABSOLUTELY too high-profile to merely be a camp arm. It may turn out that way - but the Texans could just go out and re-sign Shane Boyd if they needed nothing more than a camp arm.This looks like Quinn Gray all over again.
People will speculate about how this signing is too high-profile to be merely a camp move and how there must be something in the works, we will go through camp, and, ultimately, Grossman will be cut before the season starts.
It is interesting that Smith and Kubiak like to do this though. I wonder what the benefit is, because it can't be the most prudent practice financially.
^^^^^^^There is NO WAY Rex Grossman is coming here to be a third-string quarterback. He's going to compete with Orlovsky, which means either he looked bad at OTAs, or the coaches aren't a sure about him as the fat contract they gave him suggested they were.
The Texans aren't going to carry 3 QBs on the 53-man roster, and Grossman obviously isn't going to the practice squad. He's here for one reason - to compete with Orlovsky.
If they do keep three experienced QBs on the roster, it would prove a wise move if Schaub's injury trend continues.I'm completely cool with Grossman. Good signing if true, but may indicate a 3 qb rotation.
That'll eliminate the longsnapper and thus have a TE or LB that could do both.
Yep, I'd feel way more comfortable with a superbowl quarterback sitting on the bench with another option as well.If they do keep three experienced QBs on the roster, it would prove a wise move if Schaub's injury trend continues.
It would be nice if one of the position players is also the long snapper - isn't that being considered? The third QB could slide into that spot historically used by the Texans for the long snapper.
Clark Harris took over the long snapping, and did a great job. It would be nice if Casey or someone else who is a position player could do it. Harris is also a TE, but obviously he's bringing up the rear of an already-crowded position.Yep, I'd feel way more comfortable with a superbowl quarterback sitting on the bench with another option as well.
I believe that Dressen was looked at as the long snapper, and Casey has been looked at as longsnapper in camp. I can't remember who closed out the season for us after Pittman was suspended.
Grossman was a free agent when Orlovsky was signed. He wasn't even brought in for an audition at the time Orlovsky and Ramsey were. Additionally, Grossman has started a total of 15 games over 5 season, minus the 2006 season. If he was that high-profile, he would have gotten a look-see from us and/or signed on somewhere already.There is NO WAY Rex Grossman is coming here to be a third-string quarterback. He's going to compete with Orlovsky, which means either he looked bad at OTAs, or the coaches aren't a sure about him as the fat contract they gave him suggested they were.
The Texans aren't going to carry 3 QBs on the 53-man roster, and Grossman obviously isn't going to the practice squad. He's here for one reason - to compete with Orlovsky.
Minimum for a guy with starting experience not too bad.The Texans have agreed to a one-year contract with free agent quarterback Rex Grossman.
If Grossman passes his physical on Friday as expected, he will give the Texans four quarterbacks entering next week's minicamp.
Grossman, the Bears' No. 1 pick in 2003 will sign a one-year deal for the minimum $745,000.
He will join starter Matt Schaub and backups Dan Orlovsky and Alex Brink as the four quarterbacks on the roster.
The Texans completed organized team activities Thursday. Their three-day minicamp begins Monday.
Quinn Gray and Rex Grossman are hardly comparable. Grossman has won games in this league, despite how hated he was. He led a team to the Super Bowl.Grossman was a free agent when Orlovsky was signed. He wasn't even brought in for an audition at the time Orlovsky and Ramsey were. Additionally, Grossman has started a total of 15 games over 5 season, minus the 2006 season. If he was that high-profile, he would have gotten a look-see from us and/or signed on somewhere already.
There's the slight possibility that there's something they don't like about Orlovsky and Grossman the best of the rest left, but that would be a pretty bad mistake by the FO. There's also the possibility that there's something wrong with Schaub that we haven't heard about and they're bringing him in as a back-up to our back-up.
But, my money's on the fact that there's something that Kubiak likes about having veteran arms in camp. They did it with Quinn Gray last year, and they're doing it with Grossman this year. Much ado about nothing, IMO
My thought exactly.Who knows, maybe someone's QB gets hurt over the summer/pre-season, and they need a serviceable QB to step in and play/back-up. If we can squeeze a draft pick out of someone, great.
Yeah, I think it's pretty clear Grossman was out of options. The guy has gotten a team to a super bowl, and has started over 30 games in the league... and only signed for 745K... and he's only 28.I don't think this means that much. Grossman would have to CLEARLY out play Orlovsky and his contract to beat him out for the back-up job. If Grossman had other options he would not be going to a team with two 20 something QBs handpicked by the head coach.
and none of 32 teams wanted him as starter, competing for the starting job or as their clear number 2 back-up or he would not have been available in the middle of June. Because he is known name does not make him a good name. Grossman's problem is that everyone has an idea of what he can or better (can't) do as a QB in the NFL.Yeah, I think it's pretty clear Grossman was out of options. The guy has gotten a team to a super bowl, and has started over 30 games in the league... and only signed for 745K... and he's only 28.
That O-line wasn't bad.i like this he had a bad o-line with bears but steel got 2 the supper bowl hope he does beter here =]
Now that I've seen the amount he signed for - I tend to agree.I have a hard time believing this is some sort of knee jerk reaction to Orlovskys play so far in OTAs. I repeat.... Organized Team Activities.
The O-Line actually wasn't that terrible and they only went to 1 super bowl.i like this he had a bad o-line with bears but steel got 2 the supper bowl hope he does beter here =]
He signed for even less than Gray did last year.Now that I've seen the amount he signed for - I tend to agree.
Wow.He signed for even less than Gray did last year.
I don't get this move.He signed for even less than Gray did last year.
I'm not sure Orlovsky's contract is one that you want to ditch so soon after signing it.Grossman will compete with Orlovsky and the Texans will keep whichever one of the two they feel most comfortable with. The other one will not make the roster and could be dealt in camp for late round draft pick in the event that the injury bug sends somebody scrambling for help. Kubiak is a QB guru guy and more than that he likes being thought of as a QB guru guy. Expect the Texans to have a project QB in camp just about every year. He might be a UDFA or a career reclamation project claimed off the scrap heap but we'll almost always have somebody like that around.
I'm not knocking him for it or being negative about it but you can count on Kubiak assembling and working with journeyman QB's like you could count on Casserly making boneheaded "look how smart I am" deals on draft day. It's something of a conceit with each of them. Kubiaks conceit is a healthy one while Casserly's was a costly one. Kubiak will find more diamonds to polish up and deal away than Casserly ever would have.
I don't get this move.
They signed Quinn Gray at a time where they could have the flexibility to deal Rosenfels and teams would see they had that flexibility. I understood that.
Do they just want to rent Grossman because they are giving up on Brink?
By most accounts they've been happy with Orlovsky.
Is it just an experience upgrade so they don't have to sweat two QBs on the roster and having decent arms to get through training camp and preseason games?
I'm guessing that your answer is the correct one. I know that the Texans felt pretty fortunate for a couple of seasons that they didn't need to go to the third quarterback or perhaps the Owen Daniels emergency QB scenario.I really believe it is no more than the ability to improve the 3rd QB position on the cheap. Don't think there is much read into it. if there is more i.e. Orlovsky stinks then we will find out in August.
Perhaps it is better long term. That by getting the Kubiak polishing on his resume, and maybe looking good in the preseason in a QB friendly system, he buys time for his future. Chicago's system wasn't much for highlighting good QB play.Edit: I don't think it is a good move for Grossman. Seems like he would have been better off pulling Leftwich/Culpepper from last year, waiting by the phone for injury strike.