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Breakout players in '09
- Thread starter Maddict5
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HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Stole this thread from another board & a texans player was mentioned.
Guess who it was and feel free to add your own candidates.
Might as well stick up a poll too.. add anybody who's not on the poll list either (like jacques reeves- hes great)
You didn't vote in your own poll, Bro.
Anywho, I'm not sure an Olineman can have a noticable "Breakout" year, but I choose D. Brown. Hopefully he's dropped a few lbs and will be a bit quicker with his kick slide against speed rushers.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Brown is my choice also of those listed. Schaub will have good year but he had one last year imo. To me Brown really fits this offense and another year will make him even better. Some thing to ponder; will not having Salaam behind him help? I say yes as it is Brown's position in Brown's mind this year. Also, I think an addition to RB corps will take more heat off everyone especially Brown.
If we get a RB like Jennings or Peerman, that person should have a very good season also.
spurstexanstros
Texans Rising
I was hard on Amobi last year because of his prediction of 14 sacks and he had a hard time making tackles much less getting sacks. I was especially pissed when fat or slow Qbs kept running past him for first downs. However this year I think with addition of Smith and the emergence of Bulman it will enable him to be single covered and create pressure up the Middle. I hope so because Amobi is an example of everything right in sports. I hope his sophomore slump is busted and he makes a differance this year.
Maddict5
Hall of Fame
the player mentioned in the original thread was (pretty surprisingly- given its an nfl board and a bears fan posted it)..... Deljuan Robinson
Maddict5
Hall of Fame
yep pretty much my response
is it noticeable that im bitter towards jared allen?
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Polo
Guest
Okoye and Molden
hot pickle
Canada Eh
second that
ditto
Maddict5
Hall of Fame
i dont know.. whatever about amobi coming good, i think its a much longer shot for molden. iirc, his injury is pretty serious and they're not certain he'll recover fully like they are with diles. i think he's supposed to be out til TC too. that coupled with the fact he got little to no PT last yr means he wont do much this yr either imo. bennett is alot more likely to be the cb that (re)breaks out by rediscovering his rookie form partnered beside dunta
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Where did you get this about the severity of Molden's injury?
Kubiak said:
From ht.com.
Diles was injured much earlier in the season so I can see him being ready sooner.
Goldensilence
hipster elite
I voted Okoye. I hope with Kollar and Bush we'll see a different philosophy from the "read and react" line crap of Richard Smith. Okoye has great inital burst and he should be using that disrupt his gap and get to the qb fast.
I think there's a few guys that IF healthy can have breakout years at multiple spots though.
I think there's a few guys that IF healthy can have breakout years at multiple spots though.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Comes down to Schaub or Okoye to be "breakout players" imo. I chose Schaub because he has been able to put several good games together. All he has to do now is play a full season at the level he plays at when he's healthy and he'll be in the talks regarding the top QBs not named Manning or Brady.
Okoye however is still very young and is playing a position that has a long transition period. I hope he does very well this season, but odds are Schaub is the better pick for breakout player.
Okoye however is still very young and is playing a position that has a long transition period. I hope he does very well this season, but odds are Schaub is the better pick for breakout player.
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
Duane Brown.
Your 1st Round pick better make a big leap in year two.
Hit the track, donut boy!
Your 1st Round pick better make a big leap in year two.
Hit the track, donut boy!
Goatcheese
Texan
Not sure why everyone is voting Schaub. This season was his breakout year. He just needs to be protected from stomach bugs, and illegal shots to the knee. My sig shows what a full 16 game season would have looked like from Schaub.
Mari-OWNED!
Bucco Bruce
Yeah everyone in Houston will tell you that, but you ask the rest of the football world in the US and Schaub is still virtually an unknown.
Malloy
Hall of Fame
True, but the way I looked at it was that if he can do what he did last season through an entire season of 16 games, then we'll possibly see Brees-like production, and THAT would be breakout in my book
Kinda where I was going w/ my vote as well. Hey, if the Texans can improve on a top-3 Offense, I'm all for it!!
I voted for Okoye more in hope than in anything else...because if the kid DOESN'T produce this year, there will be holy HELL raised around here.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
Haha, so much expectation for Okoye!
And nobody expects TJ to do anything anymore?
I do. But his name wasn't on the list.
Pro Bowl.
Maddict5
Hall of Fame
yeah i think that the article i was basing it off.. as it says diles is expected back much faster and kubiak is pretty confident about him.
i dont know where i picked up about the difficulty of a full return- a thread maybe? i know molden said in his interview that they want him to take it really slow coming back
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I would hardly call last season a breakout year for Schaub. He showed flashes yes, but the fact is he got injured and didn't play the full season.
If he maintains the level of play he had last season for a full season, then he solidifies himself as our franchise QB and one of the top QBs in the NFL. That is a breakout year.
I guess the definition of "breakout" year is what this boils down to. Unless Matt FAR exceeds what he would have done (extrapolated to 16 games) last year, then I don't see that as a "breakout". In Amobi's case, if he got injured, but had 8 sacks in 6 games, THAT year would be his "breakout" year for me.
Either way, I'd love for all our guys to have fantastic years this next season and get to enjoy the Texans first playoff game...wherever it may be!
Either way, I'd love for all our guys to have fantastic years this next season and get to enjoy the Texans first playoff game...wherever it may be!
badboy
Hall of Fame
At QB I like to look at what the position brings to you and both Sage and Schaub did ok statistically. Sure there were some bone head plays, but Sage is gone and Schaub will do even better. Our line will do better and a power runner will also help the QB. As I said in my new thread today, we will see how coaches build the guys like our new back up QB. Here is a chance for Kubes to really develop a guy.
I haven't read any of the posts on this thread, but I voted Schaub. There are a couple of BIG IF'S with him. IF he stays healthy AND cuts down on turnovers, he can put up record numbers. CAN he stay healthy? A lot of that depends on him playing a little smarter and some of it is luck, considering some of his injuries (the majority, I believe) have come from illegal hits. The turnovers are just as hard to figure since most of them are the result of trying to make a play. Most of them are from trying to make the big play and I'm unsure of how much of that gunslinger attitude I want to see coached out of him. Do we want to see a repeat of Mr. Mittens with the 3rd checkdown being the primary receiver? I think not. I like the big play as much as anyone and there is always a risk that comes with them. I can see 30+ TD's and well over 4,000 yds. passing in '09 if he can limit the injuries and turnovers, though.
Goatcheese
Texan
Barring shattering the NFL single season passing record I don't think you can FAR exceed 4,600 yards.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Xavier Adibi is a gamer. Being ill and injured during the preseason last year didn't give the coaching staff an opportunity to see what they really had until later in the season. Now they know he may not look so good in practice but he comes to play on Sunday. If he can stay healthy, I expect him to have a great year.