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Weaver to be cut soon - rotoworld/NFL Network
- Thread starter DiehardChris
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Per the above link....
Sure, sign him in New York. We play the Jets at home this year. Run Slaton to his side, guaranteed first down every time. Not like he's going to make a tackle or anything.
What a waste. I remember he was touted as one of the best defensive players to hit FA in 2006, only to become a bust here in Houston. Just another product of the system in Baltimore.
It barely helps our cap. He just needed to be gone, he's not contributing.
This almost guarantees we will be either going hard at a DE in FA, or drafting DE with the 15 pick.
DiehardChris
You betcha!
I think it's fine. He's WAY too expensive to be depth.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
I think our depth is good there. I like Cochran and Bulman to do anything that Weaver did. I think we will be adding 2 more DEs in FA/draft and those guys will often be sliding inside to spell TJ, Okoye, and Robinson.
Big Poundcake
Waterboy
I think this was expected.
DiehardChris
You betcha!
Absolutely. We can do better (and cheaper) in free agency and the draft. This was a no-brainer.
Maybe the holdup was that they thought they could talk some 3-4 team into giving them a 7th rounder. Nobody's that dumb, but I guess it was worth a try. He had zero trade value.
Jackie Chiles
Veteran
Yes he was the starter but I don't see anything that Weaver brought to the table that Cochran can't do better. Ditto with Bulman. Theres almost no chance we actually go into the season with those two guys at the top of the depth chart but we lose nothing from a production standpoint getting rid of Weaver now.
imatexan
All Pro
Well if we do something in the draft or FA its a different story but if not then I still do not like our depth.
texanfan2002114
Veteran
There is a thead already started! Mods merge, please
J-Russ
Veteran
Now that he's gone, we have no other end that is a viable option to be a starter opposite of Mario. That uncertainty lead me to believe that they are definitely going to draft a DE in the first round. They may even have to "reach" again, like they did last year with Brown, if the top 4-3 ends are already gone(Orakpo, Brown).
I wouldn't mind trading back into the twenties again and taking Robert Ayers, who is a rising prospect like Duane was like year. Maybe even Larry English, who weighed in the 270s just recently.
I wouldn't mind trading back into the twenties again and taking Robert Ayers, who is a rising prospect like Duane was like year. Maybe even Larry English, who weighed in the 270s just recently.
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Nawzer
Alienz
Is it just me or does anyone else feel like the Texans are really going to pursue some big names in FA? With Sage's impending trade to the Vikings and cutting Green, Greenwood, and Weaver we have some holes to fill. Not every need will be addressed through the draft obviously so I'm guessing there are some guys the Texans front office are looking to sign.
Pantherstang84
@rolisrgti06
Value Schmalue. Getting good football players is the key!!!!!!
euro-Texan
Rookie
Either that or they are looking to bundle a package to move up in the draft. Someone already posted that on here, so it's not my idea, but with this happening so soon after the combine they might have found someone they liked a lot. I really would like to see us get someone who is not a project and can make an impact day 1.
DiehardChris
You betcha!
I don't think this move is an indication of anything other than getting rid of a player who isn't worth his contract. I don't think it means we're working on a draft trade package, or we're about to sign a big FA.
It's just normal prep for free agency. They need to sign Eugene Wilson (hopefully before free agency starts), and they might even be planning ahead for if/when things cool down with Dunta and they revisit the long-term deal.
No big deal. Just business as usual for this time of year.
It's just normal prep for free agency. They need to sign Eugene Wilson (hopefully before free agency starts), and they might even be planning ahead for if/when things cool down with Dunta and they revisit the long-term deal.
No big deal. Just business as usual for this time of year.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Cutting Weaver is sending a message that even if you have a high cap #, you're not gonna stay on the roster if you dont contribute noticeably more than the guys behind you making the league minimum.
Shows the team is willing to admit they were wrong, unlike the last regime we had in here...
Shows the team is willing to admit they were wrong, unlike the last regime we had in here...
Nawzer
Alienz
You could be right. But that's why I said it's just a feeling not a clear indicator on anything.
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
I think your right, if your not value for money, your not on this team.
Seems like smart management in the long run.
Texans34Life
I BLEED TEXANS!
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/090223_texans_release_weaver
HOUSTON - Houston Texans defensive end Anthony Weaver will be released Tuesday. Weaver told FOX 26 Sports Monday his agent informed him that he had been told by the club the move would be made Tuesday.
"I'm disappointed I can't finish what I thought we started under Coach (Gary) Kubiak," Weaver said.
Weaver is not caught off guard by the news.
"I'm not surprised," Weaver said. "I know my production has been down and I've had some injuries that didn't help."
In fact Weaver underwent arthroscopic surgery on his left knee earlier this year.
"I've never been cut before but this is the business side of things," Weaver said. "I gave my best. That's all I can control."
Weaver said he still has a lot left in the tank and plans to continue his career somewhere in the NFL.
HOUSTON - Houston Texans defensive end Anthony Weaver will be released Tuesday. Weaver told FOX 26 Sports Monday his agent informed him that he had been told by the club the move would be made Tuesday.
"I'm disappointed I can't finish what I thought we started under Coach (Gary) Kubiak," Weaver said.
Weaver is not caught off guard by the news.
"I'm not surprised," Weaver said. "I know my production has been down and I've had some injuries that didn't help."
In fact Weaver underwent arthroscopic surgery on his left knee earlier this year.
"I've never been cut before but this is the business side of things," Weaver said. "I gave my best. That's all I can control."
Weaver said he still has a lot left in the tank and plans to continue his career somewhere in the NFL.
TexanAddict
Texan 'til I Die
Probably both
The1ApplePie
Hall of Fame
Hope not, unless Orakpo is there
Maybin is a situational player at best and Michael Johnson screams "BUST" with a megaphone
old_man_1898
Practice Squad
I for one am pretty excited this lump of do nothing will finally stop invading my TV screen every sunday and sometimes Monday. He really was not pulling his weight and I like this by Kube, he is sending the message that it dosen't matter who you are, if you don't produce you are gone. 
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
I recall another DE that this was said about.
The1ApplePie
Hall of Fame
I don't think he has the upside of Mario, not by a longshot
Mario struggled in college due to poor coaching. MJ seems to be limited by his own lazyness more than anything else
My thoughts exactly. I think if MJ was available at 15, I don't believe we could possibly pass him up. He has been screaming Mario vol. 2 for a while to me now.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Weaver hasn't done anything as a Texan, there's players with his ability that won't even be drafted in the draft. He's nothing special and easily upgradeable.
Houston just improved their Dline by getting rid of this bum. Addition by subtraction. I'm tired of fielding 1 DE and 3 DTs
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
3 DTs... Holy Sh*t... where?
Sorry but I couldn't resist. I expect TJ and Okoye to look a lot better under Frankie. And, I've always been a fan of Cochrans.
Jackie Chiles
Veteran
Deljuan Robinson vs. the Titans=3 DTs wrapped in one.
Or it means they allready have a deal in place to bring in another DE via trade or FA. Peppers maybe??????
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
He got franchised almost a week ago.
BattleRedToro
Thread Killer
More likely they will bring in someone like Bertrand Berry.
Malloy
Hall of Fame
They can't acquire him as a FA, but they can still trade for him.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
I don't see that happening.......They would want too much in return and Peppers has turned into a malcontent now. I mean what's going upstairs when you're already top 3 at your position and you want to change? I say no thanks to the drama.
El Tejano
Hall of Fame
We will be when we add that stud DE in the draft this year. I think Cochran will be coming back and Bulman showed some good stuff too.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Well, if he goes somewhere else we might find his performance here was at least somewhat a product of the "lack of system" in Houston under Richard Smith.
I'm hoping he does well somewhere else and that the defenders we keep show great improvement under our new defensive staff. It would help toward validating the idea that Smith was the primary problem.
El Tejano
Hall of Fame
If I'm not mistaken, we acquired him on potential and the ability to stop the run. In Baltimore he was never a sack artist either. The problem was, he wasn't being excellent in either sacks or tackles. He was subpar in tackles. Mario on the other hand has been great in sacks and darn near excellent in stopping the run.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Yes but well, Mario is "Mario" and everyone not named Mario has been consistently ordinary for most of Gary Kubiak's regime (and by extension Richard Smith's reign as DC).
I'm just saying that maybe he goes somewhere else and plays respectable which he hasn't done here and then I think that if you look at that and compare it what we got out of him you must wonder if maybe it wasn't entirely him. Maybe it's what we were asking him to do.
P
Polo
Guest
We brought Weaver in because we were transitioning to a 4-3 and we had no players that could play LDE. The DE's we had were the tweener type players...Peek, Babin, Charlie Anderson, Shante Orr....
When we drafted Mario it really made it difficult on Weaver because Mario probably should have been playing LDE all along...
They knew Weaver was deficient because they started playing him at DT quite a bit...
He was ineffective there too.
When we drafted Mario it really made it difficult on Weaver because Mario probably should have been playing LDE all along...
They knew Weaver was deficient because they started playing him at DT quite a bit...
He was ineffective there too.
barrett
All Pro
Look, getting good football players that you can afford to keep on your team for 8+ years is the key. value is about quality players for a reasonable price so that you don't have one guy who's making 4 times as much as someone with similar productivity. (see Anthony Weaver or Morlon Greenwood)
Being able to continue to pay Schaub, Winston, Pitts, Brown, Slaton, Johnson, Daniels, Walter, Leach, Williams, Ryans, Cochran, Okoye (maybe), and Robinson for years to come is what value is.
These are the core guys of this team. They are the playmakers that we need to keep together to continue to be successful. If we can get several playmakers at a reasonable price it is a better deal that getting one superstar for an astronomical price.
That's how teams like Indy and Pittsburgh were able to have continued success for over a decade.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
One could also argue that the odd of getting a playmaker are greater drafting picks #25, #80, #105 versus pick #15. And, as Barrett pointed out, those three picks combined will be cheaper to pay than pick #15.
barrett
All Pro
I just listened to the Ryans interview. I'm starting to get worried. To use a Rick Smith saying "When we talk about value"... I'm worried that we're not going to be able to pay all the guys we have currently! I think we have some proven guys that we really need to focus on. To hear that they were in discussions with Demeco a while back is a good sign. To hear that they weren't even close on the numbers is concerning. I don't like the idea of waiting on these guys until 3 weeks before FA and then running out of time and having to Franchise them. (In Dunta's situation I think it was a wise move because of his injury) But Demeco is proven to be an elite player in this league. We have got to get these guys locked up. Priority one!
GP
Go Texans!
You're leaving out a part of the equation: Teams like the Steelers make the tough cuts at the right times, regardless of year.
I feel that we have a good coaching staff AND a good GM who are making some pretty good choices in draft picks each year. Look, if we "hit" on a guy like DeMeco...we can do it again. Wasn't DeMeco a 2nd rounder? We haven't had a 2nd rounder for the past two years. LBs are there in rounds 1 and 2.
If a guy can't play out his contract, and be patient, then he has a right to be unsettled about it. But I don't think he can go around making loud noises about it. If he becomes loose with his words, he better put up Pro Bowl numbers to back it up. he better make himself look like Ray Lewis, Jr.
I'd like to see DeMeco play out his contract. I want to see if he is really desiring to do his best, or to just make out like a bandit on a new contract BEFORE playing his best.
These guys are not being underpaid. OK, OK. With what they do, and how their career can be ended in a heartbeat, I can see the argument for getting all you can. I can also see the case for handling your finances very strictly if you want to live a life of comfort after the NFL. Just my two cents.
Goldensilence
hipster elite
Agreed I think Bertrand would be a good fit here. Could be a more productive N.D. Kalu which i like. McGlover might be given another shot to be healthy and compete.
Will the cap hits we take this year on be gone next year? Hope so because next year we got to make the decision on Schaub's contract as well.