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Marinelli Interviews w/Texans, Signs w/Bears

We're not necessarily looking at him for the DC postion, nor is he looking to be a DC this year. He was a very respected D Line Coach when he got the job at Detroit. I wouldn't be at all upset if we hired him as a DL coach.

Regardless, at least the Texans are starting to interview people, and he's just the first.
 
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I think he would be a good addition. Some guys are meant to be coord, and I think he will realize that. I also think he is a class guy, with the way he handled the entire Detroit thing. Awesome they way he did that. Would love to just have a conversation with him about all of that mess.
 
He's a great defensive minded coach and he's really got good connections with his players. I'd love this hiring for DL coach or maybe co-DC
 
pittbull3 said:
I think he would be a good addition. Some guys are meant to be coord, and I think he will realize that. I also think he is a class guy, with the way he handled the entire Detroit thing. Awesome they way he did that. Would love to just have a conversation with him about all of that mess.
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I agree...
 
If they're interviewing him as DL coach, that would be cool. If we were going to go with a 1st time DC, I'd just as soon it be Bush. He was the guy Kubes wanted in the 1st place, so maybe he has what it takes.
 
gtexan02 said:
He's a great defensive minded coach and he's really got good connections with his players. I'd love this hiring for DL coach or maybe co-DC
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That's exactly what the Texans need. Someone to build a relationship with his defensive players and create accountability. Too much distance between millionaire coaches and players. We already have a laxed atmosphere in houston to begin with. I know players that left and went to other teams, and they said Houston is the best team in the league to chill at. No stress, big check, low accountability, and treated like kings by the organization. All that is good, but they have yet to create the family atmosphere, to want to succeed for their brothers on the field, and make it happen for their "papa", position coach.
 
DocBar said:
If they're interviewing him as DL coach, that would be cool. If we were going to go with a 1st time DC, I'd just as soon it be Bush. He was the guy Kubes wanted in the 1st place, so maybe he has what it takes.
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Ive said it a few times, but it is worth repeating. No coach from on staff deserves the DC. That was a lack-luster game plan/scheme run for three years. Time for some new.
 
4Texans said:
We're not necessarily looking at him for the DC postion, nor is he looking to be a DC this year. He was a very respected D Line Coach when he got the job at Detroit. I wouldn't be at all upset if we hired him as a DL coach.

Regardless, at least the Texans are starting to interview people, and he's just the first.
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Well, unless we've already settled on Bush as the DC, I sure hope we aren't interviewing this guy for our DL, when we don't even have a DC in place yet... I'd say it's pretty important to let the DC bring in his guys. The last thing we need is more competing philosophies on the defensive side of the ball.
 
DocBar said:
If they're interviewing him as DL coach, that would be cool. If we were going to go with a 1st time DC, I'd just as soon it be Bush. He was the guy Kubes wanted in the 1st place, so maybe he has what it takes.
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Your statement might have alot more to it than you think. We have to ask why would we interview a guy to fill the DL coach need before we find out who our DC is? Unless of course you already feel you got your DC in place (Bush) and he said he wants Marinelli.

Otherwise wouldn't you want your DC to recommend who he wants for the DL?
 
El Tejano said:
Your statement might have alot more to it than you think. We have to ask why would we interview a guy to fill the DL coach need before we find out who our DC is? Unless of course you already feel you got your DC in place (Bush) and he said he wants Marinelli.

Otherwise wouldn't you want your DC to recommend who he wants for the DL?
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Probably because they're interviewing him for the coord. position....
 
BigBull17 said:
Ive said it a few times, but it is worth repeating. No coach from on staff deserves the DC. That was a lack-luster game plan/scheme run for three years. Time for some new.
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Somebody on TT.com said that he waited on Bush at a restaurant and asked Bush if he did any play calling or anything and all Bush said was that he and Kubes restricted certain defensive plays from Richard Smith.
 
Polo said:
Does this mean that he's one of our top prospects?
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I hope it's more the first guy there were able to get an interview scheduled with and that'll likely be around after the NFL head coach turnstile stops. While I like the fact that he's got a good history working with DLs and is very familiar with the Tampa 2 defense, I can't get over a guy that has 0-16 stink on him.
 
dalemurphy said:
Well, unless we've already settled on Bush as the DC, I sure hope we aren't interviewing this guy for our DL, when we don't even have a DC in place yet... I'd say it's pretty important to let the DC bring in his guys. The last thing we need is more competing philosophies on the defensive side of the ball.
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That is exactly what I was thinking. IMHO this means he IS here to interview for the job of dc. The only way he would be interviewed for dl coach is if Bush is their man for dc.
 
He may not be a good candidate for DC, but he's a great candidate for D-Line. I got this from Wikipedia:

1973-1975 Rosemead High School (Defensive coordinator)
1976-1981 Utah State University (Defensive line coach)
1982 Utah State University (Offensive line and special teams coach)
1983-1989 University of California (defensive line coach)
1990-1991 University of California (defensive line and assistant head coach)
1992-1994 Arizona State University (defensive line and assistant head coach)
1995 University of Southern California (Defensive line coach)
1996-2001 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Defensive line coach)
2002-2005 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (defensive line and assistant head coach)
2006-2008 Detroit Lions (Head coach)

Those were some good years for the Bucs defense.
 
dalemurphy said:
Well, unless we've already settled on Bush as the DC, I sure hope we aren't interviewing this guy for our DL, when we don't even have a DC in place yet... I'd say it's pretty important to let the DC bring in his guys. The last thing we need is more competing philosophies on the defensive side of the ball.
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Agree and disagree. It is ok to have different philosophy on the defensive side of the ball as long as there is one person in-charge and everyone is on the same page. Most DC would prefer to hire there own people but Mainelli is probably so highly thought of as a DL coach that any coordinator would be glad to have him.
 
I will say this, it does seem to me that our current talent on defensive fits a Marinelli style defense better than most:

1. 4-3
2. One gap DTs: most agree that Okoye, also probably Cochran, Robinson, and Bulman are most likely to excel at.
3. Premium pass rusher at DE: Mario- obviously we could use another
4. Undersized but speedy playmaking LBs: Adibi, Ryans, Diles all fit that standard. I also think Ryans has the ability to make the deep middle drops on pass plays, though we've not seen a ton of evidence of it.
5. Corners that can play aggressive at and near the line: Dunta, JReeves, Bennett- that would best describe each of their strengths, I think. Though, Reeves has shown good recovery speed which is less needed in this style of Cover 2 defense.
6. Obviously we need to work on our safety situation with any defense that requires an 11 man team!
 
He was in Tampa with Warren Sapp, someone who everyone compared Amobi Okoye to in the draft. Should be interesting, but I would welcome him as the D Line coach easily. Undecided about him as DC, but I think he could make it work (either way he's an upgrade over Smith).
 
LORK 88 said:
He was in Tampa with Warren Sapp, someone who everyone compared Amobi Okoye to in the draft. Should be interesting, but I would welcome him as the D Line coach easily. Undecided about him as DC, but I think he could make it work (either way he's an upgrade over Smith).
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At least from a fan's perspective, we'll have an understanding of what they're trying to do. My guess is that a player would feel the same way- that at least they will understand what the coaching staff expects from them and what is trying to be accomplished.
 
LORK 88 said:
He was in Tampa with Warren Sapp, someone who everyone compared Amobi Okoye to in the draft. Should be interesting, but I would welcome him as the D Line coach easily. Undecided about him as DC, but I think he could make it work (either way he's an upgrade over Smith).
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He also coached Rice in TB
 
I dont know why people dont want him as DC. The guy was the best DL coach in the NFL before he took the HC job at Detroit. When Amobi came out he was being compared to Warren Sapp... get Marinelli and we get the guy who taugh Sapp how to be Sapp. Plus, there is no other coach i'd want in charge of developing our underachieving DL. Get Gray at DC if you want to fix the secondary immediately or Marinelli if you want the DL to start performing to expectations is my thinking.

Marinelli brings the Tampa 2 to Houston, Gray brings Fisher's D. I wouldn't mind either of them after seeing the crap Richard Smith put out there.
 
i think people are hesitant to embrace the idea because we've already suffered through a first time DC and a loosing team and he would bring both to our team once again. Furthermore, someone like Williams that has a clear scheme would set minds at ease after dealing with what seemed to be an unclear vision or direction for the D. Having said that, I think Marinelli would make a good addition to our DLine but I don't see it happening. We don't have a DC yet and he has no ties to Houston. He's interviewed with two teams that he has direct ties to already.
 
barrett said:
i think people are hesitant to embrace the idea because we've already suffered through a first time DC and a loosing team and he would bring both to our team once again. Furthermore, someone like Williams that has a clear scheme would set minds at ease after dealing with what seemed to be an unclear vision or direction for the D. Having said that, I think Marinelli would make a good addition to our DLine but I don't see it happening. We don't have a DC yet and he has no ties to Houston. He's interviewed with two teams that he has direct ties to already.
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Crazy as this is to fathom, Smith was a DC in Miami when Nick Saban was there.
 
TheRealJoker said:
I dont know why people dont want him as DC. The guy was the best DL coach in the NFL before he took the HC job at Detroit. When Amobi came out he was being compared to Warren Sapp... get Marinelli and we get the guy who taugh Sapp how to be Sapp. Plus, there is no other coach i'd want in charge of developing our underachieving DL. Get Gray at DC if you want to fix the secondary immediately or Marinelli if you want the DL to start performing to expectations is my thinking.

Marinelli brings the Tampa 2 to Houston, Gray brings Fisher's D. I wouldn't mind either of them after seeing the crap Richard Smith put out there.
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My anxiety can be summed up by 4 simple characters: 0-16

No matter how poor of talent you have, no matter how good or bad a coach is, 0-16 is really something special. Its the worst of the worst. No team in the history of the NFL has EVER done so poorly. Thats a lot of baggage for a coach.
 
gtexan02 said:
My anxiety can be summed up by 4 simple characters: 0-16

No matter how poor of talent you have, no matter how good or bad a coach is, 0-16 is really something special. Its the worst of the worst. No team in the history of the NFL has EVER done so poorly. Thats a lot of baggage for a coach.
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Sure, I'd be screaming "no" if we were interviewing him for a head coach position. Totally different!
 
I'm pretty excited about Marinelli. Maybe you can compare him to Dom Capers, whome we know all too well. Pretty crappy head coach but is a pretty good coordinator. The 0-16 funk is hard to swallow as is the fact he's never been a DC. I think he'd be a hell of an addition as DL coach and am somewhat excited if he's our next DC.

From what I've read of the Eagles secondary coach, Sean McDermott, He seems like he could be a fun DC to have here. Marinelli as DL coach, McDermott as DC who has a "specialty" with safeties/secondary... :drool: We'd be getting some good input on 'D' player to draft this year, DE like Brown, DT like Raji, S like Mays...

I at least like the fact we're interviewing Marinelli, he's on the tops of my list to come here.
 
gtexan02 said:
My anxiety can be summed up by 4 simple characters: 0-16

No matter how poor of talent you have, no matter how good or bad a coach is, 0-16 is really something special. Its the worst of the worst. No team in the history of the NFL has EVER done so poorly. Thats a lot of baggage for a coach.
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If I was interviewing him for DC, my first question would be, "why did a talent like Ernie Sims get worse and less disciplined the more time you were his coach?" That is an example of concerns I would have much more than failing as a head coach in Detroit- he's only human!
 
I'd love it if he came here as the D-line coach. I think he could do wonders with Amobi and Mario. He could do to the d-line what Gibbs did to the O-line
 
If any franchise had the potential to be 0-16 it was the damn Lions.

I'd like for them to keep looking, but with all the money tied up in our D-line I don't see a negative of obtaining a guy who's specialty is D-line.

After that bad experience with the Lions he probably learned a lot.
 
barrett said:
i think people are hesitant to embrace the idea because we've already suffered through a first time DC and a loosing team and he would bring both to our team once again. Furthermore, someone like Williams that has a clear scheme would set minds at ease after dealing with what seemed to be an unclear vision or direction for the D. Having said that, I think Marinelli would make a good addition to our DLine but I don't see it happening. We don't have a DC yet and he has no ties to Houston. He's interviewed with two teams that he has direct ties to already.
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Yet in the same breath a lot of folks would be happy to have Sean McDermott. Mainly because of the Jim Johnson pedigree tree.

gtexan02 said:
My anxiety can be summed up by 4 simple characters: 0-16

No matter how poor of talent you have, no matter how good or bad a coach is, 0-16 is really something special. Its the worst of the worst. No team in the history of the NFL has EVER done so poorly. Thats a lot of baggage for a coach.
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He was handicapped by having Millian as his GM.
 
dalemurphy said:
If I was interviewing him for DC, my first question would be, "why did a talent like Ernie Sims get worse and less disciplined the more time you were his coach?" That is an example of concerns I would have much more than failing as a head coach in Detroit- he's only human!
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The same reason David Carr had a -5 yard passing game under Kubiak
 
I think it's for Defensive Coordinator position I can't see him reporting to Frank Bush who has never called plays and this guy was the Head Man of an NFL team. I think that he would do a very good job as defensive coordinator and he doesn't have to deal with Matt Millen drafting sorry players anymore.
 
They ran the Tampa 2... was/is he a proponent of that? Or just the 4-3 in general.

i'm not too high on the Cover 2 as a base, but whatever. I like Marinelli and if he can make that work, then so be it.
 
D line coach, but that is it!!!

No way should the Texans take an 0-16 guy and make him our Defensive coordinator. The Lions had one of if not the worst defense I've ever seen in history this season with Marinelli. He is not ready to become a defensive coordinator.

I'll be ticked as anyone could be if he becomes our coordinator on defense. i'd rather have Smith back then. All of you that bashed Smith all year and would want Marinelli to take over the entire defense are crazy. The Lions never had any kind of defensive PULSE at all under this guy as head coach. He is NOT some brilliant defensive coach. Maybe he is for the D LINE BY ITSELF, but not the entire defense.

The Texans need a proven defensive coordinator right now. No reaches, no gambles, none of that fly stuff. We need a guy that has done it before and been successful.
 
Specnatz said:
Most DC would prefer to hire there own people but Mainelli is probably so highly thought of as a DL coach that any coordinator would be glad to have him.
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Exactly, I don't know of a DC in the league that would be upset to have Rod Marinelli as their DL coach. This would be a very solid hire as long as its as a position coach.

On another note I would love to be a fly on the wall during this interview. The article states that he has close ties to the other places he has interviewed (Chicago and Seattle) but we have a real ace up our sleeve in Mario and Amobi can't hurt either. Coaching these two guys, almost from the beginning of their careers, should be very attractive to a guru like Marinelli. Open up that pocketbook McNair!
 
I am glad he is here and I trust that Kubes is gonna make the right choices.


I am hoping for DL Coach but you never know. But to say he has no experience or he's got 0-16 baggage or he's got cooties is being short sighted. I never saw his players quit on him either.

"Listen to the fans and you'll soon be sitting with them."

See VY...
 
Roc Hoover said:
I am glad he is here and I trust that Kubes is gonna make the right choices.


I am hoping for DL Coach but you never know. But to say he has no experience or he's got 0-16 baggage or he's got cooties is being short sighted. I never saw his players quit on him either.

"Listen to the fans and you'll soon be sitting with them."

See VY...
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His defense quit on him in a ton of games this season. Make no mistake about that.
 
After reviewing all the info on the Lions D the last few years, good lord. If it was not for Cleveland, Cincinnati and Houston they would have had the worst defenses in the league.

Line Coach yes D coordinator not so much.
 
Texecutioner said:
His defense quit on him in a ton of games this season. Make no mistake about that.
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Then you have NFL ticket or nothing else to do. One game of their's I watched all the way thru was against the Texans. Looked to me like they were serious.

The Tenn game was pretty bad. But they were 4-0 in pre-season...woo hoo

0-16...that which does not kill will make you stronger. He was not a buffoon. If Kubes brings him in at all, I will not whine.
 
Marinelli and Dom Capers are kinda similar

Hey...Maybe we can interview Capers for the Job!
 
Roc Hoover said:
Then you have NFL ticket or nothing else to do. One game of their's I watched all the way thru was against the Texans. Looked to me like they were serious.

The Tenn game was pretty bad. But they were 4-0 in pre-season...woo hoo

0-16...that which does not kill will make you stronger. He was not a buffoon. If Kubes brings him in at all, I will not whine.
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I do have friends that have NFL ticket and yes I watched just about every Detroit game this year. That doesn't mean I have nothing else to do, that means I love football! I had Calvin Johnson on my fantasy team and I've always been a Detroit fan as well, so I watch the Lions a lot. And if you only watched one game of the Lions this year, I'm not sure why you even are challenging anyone on whether their team quit this year because you didn't watch.

Their defense was the worst part of their team. The D was so horrible that it made the offense worse, because the offense could hardly ever run the ball because they were always down by two TD's as soon as the game started. They were atrocious from the beginning of the year and got worse the more the season dragged on. The guys in the secondary were giving up on all kinds of plays, it was pathetic.

It is one thing when your D is horrible, it is another when it only gets worse as the season goes on. The Texans had a horrible D this year, but it respectfully got better. The opposite happened in Detroit, it just got worse and worse even when you didn't think it could get any worse.

And he was a total bufoon as a head coach there. There is no argument against that. They were 0-16 for crying out loud.
 
El Tejano said:
Somebody on TT.com said that he waited on Bush at a restaurant and asked Bush if he did any play calling or anything and all Bush said was that he and Kubes restricted certain defensive plays from Richard Smith.
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I have no doubt. That doesnt change that we had 2 1/2 years of shitty play calling.
 
If you ever saw him interviewed during the 0-16 season you'd come away impressed. He had resolve and despite how incredibly bad they were, they always seemed to hang around in some games. I liked what he had to say during trying times.
 
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