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Rosenfels Appreciation Thread

He played very well until you know when. To me, it just proved one thing.... he is no more than a backup. I wish it weren't so, but that's what I am getting out of this.

P.S. - This thread will be fun to observe.
 
I know he had a bad 4th quarter, but he had 3 solid quarters. So bravo.
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Unfortunately the NFL game is 4 quarters.

Sincerely,

Warren Moon

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Something tells me we could be looking to draft a QB come this draft since we have Matt "Carr Jr." Schaub and Sage "I think I can make this jump" Rosenfels.
 
He made some questionable throws throughout the game. He also had the ball stripped earlier in the game that Duan Brown recovered and even though it was Brown's fault you know Sage has to protect it better. Andre Johnson made him look good on a couple of his throws. This should end all discussions regarding Sage as a starter.
 
Nawzer said:
He made some questionable throws throughout the game. He also had the ball stripped earlier in the game that Duan Brown recovered and even though it was Brown's fault you know Sage has to protect it better. Andre Johnson made him look good on a couple of his throws. This should end all discussions regarding Sage as a starter.
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Yep, more of the same from Sage. If there's one positive thing you can take away from his play today, it's that the "start Sage" crowd will shut up now.

Not worth it for a loss like that though.
 
And I still say he's a better QB the Matt.

Matt threw pick in the first two games and then finally had a good game against the Jags.

Sage fumbled the ball trying to make a play, then threw a pick out of desparation.

Sage's problems can be fixed, I don't know that Matts can.

Ok, go ahead crucify me.
 
Someone already updated his Wiki....

Wiki said:
"Given a chance to start in the Texans home opener on October 5, 2008, Rosenfels played well in leading the Texans to a 17 point lead. However, he then single-handedly lead one of the largest collapses in NFL history, fumbling twice and throwing an interception in the last 4 minutes of the game to lose to the Indianapolis Colts 31-27."
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RosenfelsIsMyQB said:
Nope, not shutting up. Schaub < Rosenfels

Matt Schaub never even has an opportunity to have a 17 point lead.
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Are you freaking kidding me? Sage Rosenfails has proven himself, he's a loser and he takes unnecessary retarded risks. You'll be changing your username soon since Sage will be out of the league in the near future.
 
TheIronDuke said:
Are you freaking kidding me? Sage Rosenfails has proven himself, he's a loser and he takes unnecessary retarded risks. You'll be changing your username soon since Sage will be out of the league in the near future.
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That happens as soon as Smith is fired as DC
 
The guy pulls the dumbest stunts I've seen in ages in rapid succession and now I have to appreciate him for it. No, I don't think so.
 
Showtime100 said:
The guy pulls the dumbest stunts I've seen in ages in rapid succession and now I have to appreciate him for it. No, I don't think so.
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Amen.

MT, no disrespect intended, but **** Sage.

**** him in his goat ***. If he had just not acted like a jack*** we'd be 1-3 right now.
 
RosenfelsIsMyQB said:
Why aren't you saying fire Matt Schaub then? Did you already forget about those terrible games he played against Pittsburgh and Tennessee?
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You can look at those games and say that either:

A) the whole team played badly

or

B) the defense played horribly

or

C) the offense looked like crap


At Pitt, Jax, or Tenn can you say "Wow, great team effort but (insert single player name here) really cost us the game."
 
He won't ever admit it and no one from the organization will say it but Sage put himself above the team when he went for it on the first fumble. Instead of playing it a bit safer and more conservative and being content with a win he tried to make a statement about getting more playing time and it cost us the game and probably a ton of trade value for him in the off-season. Maybe if he was the starter on some other team he wouldn't feel the need to make these plays out of nothing but that was terrible.
 
TheIronDuke said:
You'll be changing your username soon since Sage will be out of the league in the near future.
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Actually, I doubt it. Sage will be a free agent this off season. Expect Minnesota and KC to make a run at him. The only thing Minnesota is missing is a QB. You may be wishing you had Sage back by the end of next season.
 
I'm not saying that what happened today was by any means good. Nor am I saying that Sage is the next Tom Brady. All I'm saying is that he's better than Schaub.
 
Jackie Chiles said:
He won't ever admit it and no one from the organization will say it but Sage put himself above the team when he went for it on the first fumble. Instead of playing it a bit safer and more conservative and being content with a win he tried to make a statement about getting more playing time and it cost us the game and probably a ton of trade value for him in the off-season. Maybe if he was the starter on some other team he wouldn't feel the need to make these plays out of nothing but that was terrible.
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While I am a Sage supporter, I'd agree whole heartedly with this statement. Sage went to make a play when a play wasn't required. I'd bet his motivation was more selfish then anyone would admit. If he makes the play, there's a serious QB controversy in Houston now and his free agency value spikes sharply.

After saying that and putting a negative spin on it, I'd have to admit, I would have done the same thing. Go hard or go home.
 
mexican_texan said:
I know he had a bad 4th quarter, but he had 3 solid quarters. So bravo.

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NO! He is the single most selfish person on this team. Terrell Owens wouldn't have done that ****. Plain and simple, he want's the starting job, and threw away this game trying to get it. To hell with this guy. I could care less if we cut him tomorrow morning. If Kubiak and McNair truly don't like players with character issues, they will cut this waste tomorrow.
 
Matt - Steelers, Titans, Jaugars
Sage - Colts


There is a little difference in the defenses they played against.

Oh, and Matt's were all on the road.
 
RosenfelsIsMyQB said:
I'm not saying that what happened today was by any means good. Nor am I saying that Sage is the next Tom Brady. All I'm saying is that he's better than Schaub.
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Dude thats great that you think Sage is better but news flash no one cares who starts people only care these days about who wins. Sage starts fine and if Schaub starts also fine I dont give a ******* I want a freaking win not lame a** QB that pulls a Drew Tate
 
RosenfelsIsMyQB said:
Yes I can insert Schaub's name, especially in the Tennessee game.
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Thing is...EVERYONE played great today. Everyone played about the best they could today...

The Pitt game...the whole team played bad except Mario.

Tenn game...whole team played bad except Slaton

Jags game....offense was good defense was bad

The whole team played great today and one guy just...idk, he says he was trying to get the first down and seal the win or something...yet the win was sealed when we got the onside kick.
 
Hagar said:
You may be wishing you had Sage back by the end of next season.
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I think I'd rather have my hemorrhoids flair up again than see Sage take us to another heartbreaking loss. I'm completely confused as to why anyone supporting Rosenfails would even attempt to think about posting here after his putrid performance in the 4th quarter. I just don't get it.
 
Hagar said:
And I still say he's a better QB the Matt.

Matt threw pick in the first two games and then finally had a good game against the Jags.

Sage fumbled the ball trying to make a play, then threw a pick out of desparation.

Sage's problems can be fixed, I don't know that Matts can.

Ok, go ahead crucify me.
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I'm not going to crucify you. I will say this. You are blind if you compare Matts games to Sages.


First of all. Top to bottom. The entire team lost the games Matt played in. You can't place the blame on just one person unit or coach. Sage lost this game. Plain and simple. Don't give me that "He put us in a position to win" bs either. He had one job. One priority. And on two consecutive plays that you put the ball in his hands he was careless with it. IF you are going to pull that boneheaded move and jump, you better get both damn hands on the ball..

Next. Most of Schaub's mistakes came trying to rescue his team from some sort of disasterous situation. Being down 2 scores to the steelers, and your defense hasn't stopped them ALL DAY. Sages mistakes (well 2 of the 4, and the most costly two mistakes) came when he was well ahead. In my opinion, that leap, he was putting himself first... trying to "win the game" and look good doing it. There was NO reason to do that. Schaub made mistakes, granted, when the game was out of hand. He didn't necisarliy have hand in getting it there either. Sage was given a game you'd love to have. RBs running all over the place. Defense stopping people. Offense clicking, OL blocking, he had time to throw. He had indy back on their heels. He didn't pull it off.

Schaub has not played "great", but he would be 1-2 if not for the defense and special teams collapsing on him in Jacksonville. Sage is 0-1 after the rest of the team playing a perfect game. Sage was on his feet all day. His receivers were catching the ball.

Even his last pass. Throw that ball away. You have 42 seconds and 2 more downs to go half the field, with two time outs. Don't put a duck up there.




All I know, is this team needs to learn to win yesterday. We have the talent on offense to get the job done.


Mike
 
1st fumble was his fault majorly.

2nd fumble was just good D on the other team.

The INT was his fault.

Like I said, I totally blame Sage for this loss, but I still think he's better than Schaub.

Plus you're all judging 3 games of Schaub's where he played poorly in 2. We're taking a smaller sampling of Sage and just making a judgment right there.
 
joedinkle said:
NO! He is the single most selfish person on this team. Terrell Owens wouldn't have done that ****. Plain and simple, he want's the starting job, and threw away this game trying to get it. To hell with this guy. I could care less if we cut him tomorrow morning. If Kubiak and McNair truly don't like players with character issues, they will cut this waste tomorrow.
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Selfish? What QB would throw his body into defenders for a few extra yards? I'm not saying he's better than Schaub, but he put forth a valiant effort and played to win. Unfortunately, we should've run-run-run-punt in those last 4 minutes. He was trying to hard to make a play in the 4th quarter and should've played it safe. I didn't expect us to win the game in the first place, even with that lead. Like I said, no lead is safe with ol' Manning at QB.
 
Hagar said:
And I still say he's a better QB the Matt.

Matt threw pick in the first two games and then finally had a good game against the Jags.

Sage fumbled the ball trying to make a play, then threw a pick out of desparation.

Sage's problems can be fixed, I don't know that Matts can.

Ok, go ahead crucify me.
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So the same type dumb turnovers he made last year and the same problems we had with Schuab before. How is he better?They both have proven nothing but they aren't true starters so far.
 
If Sage slides, the clock counts down, and the Texans win, you'd all be on Sage's nuts. Are you all really telling me that not once during this game before the debacle that you were thinking Sage should be the starter?
 
There are very good reasons why a team like the Miami Dolphins with all their great post-Marino QB play had no interest in keeping Sage around. He should have been traded for whatever was offered back when he had value. I said it then and it's ten times as true today.
 
RosenfelsIsMyQB said:
1st fumble was his fault majorly.

2nd fumble was just good D on the other team.

The INT was his fault.

Like I said, I totally blame Sage for this loss, but I still think he's better than Schaub.

Plus you're all judging 3 games of Schaub's where he played poorly in 2. We're taking a smaller sampling of Sage and just making a judgment right there.
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David Carr himself wouldn't have attempted "The Dive" and I know Schaub wouldn't have either. Rosenfels took fail to a whole new level. After screwing his own team trying some idiotic dive he gets a chance to get us out of our endzone and can't feel the pressure which results in his stupid ass giving up the ball in our territory. F Sage Rosenfails.
 
RosenfelsIsMyQB said:
If Sage slides, the clock counts down, and the Texans win, you'd all be on Sage's nuts. Are you all really telling me that not once during this game before the debacle that you were thinking Sage should be the starter?
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Oh please, he's not going to slide and everybody here with any kind of a clue knows that. He's Sage friggin Rosenfels and he's about playing within his abilities for only so long and then when he starts to get a little swagger going he's about throwing that interception or fumbling the ball or not running out of bounds when he should (or running out of bounds when he absolutely must), or extending that ball over the first down marker and right into a LB's hands. He gets excited and he gets stupid as all hell and he always has.

This is his entire career in a damn nutshell and if you can't see that then you're a blind man.

If Sage is your QB then you're going to spend a long, long time losing more than you win.
 
RosenfelsIsMyQB said:
If Sage slides, the clock counts down, and the Texans win, you'd all be on Sage's nuts. Are you all really telling me that not once during this game before the debacle that you were thinking Sage should be the starter?
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I thought Sage played a real nice game before that final few minutes but wasn't there a point in the Jacksonville game when you thought "Schaub is going to be alright?" I admit that I was pretty concerned after the first two games of the year for sure and Rosenfels seemed mighty appealing but Kubiak stuck with Schaub and he stepped up. Sage got his chance to make a case today and if he had played it safe at the end of the game maybe we can have this conversation. But alas it wound up being the worst loss in our relatively brief history.
 
Hervoyel said:
Oh please, he's not going to slide and everybody here with any kind of a clue knows that. He's Sage friggin Rosenfels and he's about playing within his abilities for only so long and then when he starts to get a little swagger going he's about throwing that interception or fumbling the ball or not running out of bounds when he should (or running out of bounds when he absolutely must), or extending that ball over the first down marker and right into a LB's hands. He gets excited and he gets stupid as all hell and he always has.

This is his entire career in a damn nutshell and if you can't see that then you're a blind man.

If Sage is your QB then you're going to spend a long, long time losing more than you win.
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That extending to get the first down near the goal line was terrifying. They showed that replay a couple times and I was just slack-jawed like how the hell did we get away with that?
 
RosenfelsIsMyQB said:
If Sage slides, the clock counts down, and the Texans win, you'd all be on Sage's nuts. Are you all really telling me that not once during this game before the debacle that you were thinking Sage should be the starter?
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Sure thing, Hulk18. Whatever you say. Sage is great.





oh wait, I forgot to add :rolleyes:
 
mexican_texan said:
He was trying to hard to make a play in the 4th quarter and should've played it safe.
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There was no play that needed to be made at that point. We were kicking the crap out of them. Any QB who isn't retarded would know that the game is over and not to do things that could jeopardize the win.
 
RosenfelsIsMyQB said:
If Sage slides, the clock counts down, and the Texans win, you'd all be on Sage's nuts. Are you all really telling me that not once during this game before the debacle that you were thinking Sage should be the starter?
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Your forgetting the part where he didn't slide, fumbled twice and threw an int. They all count and we lose as a direct result of it. He isn't starter material just like the other guy may not be. But having a nut swing takes 60 minutes.

This all sounds so familiar.
 
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RosenfelsIsMyQB said:
If Sage slides, the clock counts down, and the Texans win, you'd all be on Sage's nuts. Are you all really telling me that not once during this game before the debacle that you were thinking Sage should be the starter?
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HoustonFrog said:
Your forgetting the part where he didn't slide, fumbled twice and threw an int. they all count and we loss as a direct result of it. He isn't starter material just like the other guy may not be. But having a nut swing takes 60 minutes.

This all sounds so familiar.
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Damn it Frog I was gonna say that!!
 
Did anyone else see Collinsworth at half time just shake is head in disbelief at how the Texans could lose that game?
 
Hervoyel said:
Oh please, he's not going to slide and everybody here with any kind of a clue knows that. He's Sage friggin Rosenfels and he's about playing within his abilities for only so long and then when he starts to get a little swagger going he's about throwing that interception or fumbling the ball or not running out of bounds when he should (or running out of bounds when he absolutely must), or extending that ball over the first down marker and right into a LB's hands. He gets excited and he gets stupid as all hell and he always has.

This is his entire career in a damn nutshell and if you can't see that then you're a blind man.

If Sage is your QB then you're going to spend a long, long time losing more than you win.
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Nail on the head.

This isn't anything new with him. He almost gave up the ball stretching for the Endzone and the Colts being oppurtunistic even slapped at that one.

I have no doubt that we could have got this lead with Matt. We saw our offense the week before put up the same number of points but our defense give up more.

This is why Sage is a back-up, it's because he's a gambler and he never wins his money back. He's the guy that gambles...wins a nice amount and instead of walking away with 5x more money than he had going in...he gambles all that away and leaves with nothing.
 
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