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S.I.com top 10 disappointing running backs

Interesting LT isn't even on there.....not that he is sucking, but definitely not in his usual form.
 
Specnatz said:
Because when someone breaks their leg it is more disappointing no matter how well they were running at the time. I am sure Williams ment to break his leg, he did it on purpose.
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I like how pretty much everyone on the list has had some sort of injury and still have comparable stats to Reggie, yet he is not disappointing even though he is healthy
 
Lucky said:
How does Reggie avoid this list?
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because he hasn't been as disappointing as the 10 on this list. You see most writers out there don't have this incessant desire to prove that Reggie sucks and that the Texans made the right choice. They would be the first to tell you that Reggie hasn't lived up to the hype but they would also follow that by saying he hasn't been a disappointment especially when compared to some of the guys on this list. It seems that so many around here just want Reggie and VY to fail to somehow justify the Texans stupidity in selecting Mario #1 and not going with competitors like RB or VY or trading down. The Texans were stupid and it was all because of $$ and signability....and nothing to do with football...no matter how many times they tell you the contrary... Thanks Bob, Gary, and Asserley.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
because he hasn't been as disappointing as the 10 on this list. You see most writers out there don't have this incessant desire to prove that Reggie sucks and that the Texans made the right choice. They would be the first to tell you that Reggie hasn't lived up to the hype but they would also follow that by saying he hasn't been a disappointment especially when compared to some of the guys on this list. It seems that so many around here just want Reggie and VY to fail to somehow justify the Texans stupidity in selecting Mario #1 and not going with competitors like RB or VY or trading down. The Texans were stupid and it was all because of $$ and signability....and nothing to do with football...no matter how many times they tell you the contrary... Thanks Bob, Gary, and Asserley.
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All three are at various levels of sucking. End of story. Taking any of those three at #1 would be stupid at this moment.
 
Hey, my firewall at work won't let me see the list.

Can anyone post the quick version for me? I don't need to know why they're on the list, but I would be appreciative if someone can tell me who is on there....
 
Second Honeymoon said:
It seems that so many around here just want Reggie and VY to fail to somehow justify the Texans stupidity in selecting Mario #1 and not going with competitors like RB or VY or trading down.
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Now SH, I have been consistent in my opinions about VY and Bush since they were playing at their respective schools. We could have drafted Manning and I would still feel the same way about those two guys...
 
drewmar74 said:
Hey, my firewall at work won't let me see the list.

Can anyone post the quick version for me? I don't need to know why they're on the list, but I would be appreciative if someone can tell me who is on there....
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1. Rudi Johnson
2. Shaun Alexander
3. Thomas Jones
4. Cadillac Williams
5. Ced Benson
6. Ahman
7. Frank Gore
8. Steven Jackson
9. Travis Henry
10. Larry Johnson
 
Lucky said:
So you admit that Bush has been disappointing thus far? Just not as disappointing as myself and others see Reggie's performance.
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considering the amount of hype given to Bush, anything short of Pro Bowl numbers would have been a disappointment. He has yet to reach that level, so that could be called disappointing. I would call it overhype and that he is what he is. a good running back with a lot of talent but a lot to learn about being a featured back (which is the only way one could justify a RB at #2 overall).

i just think some of us on this board, and not necessarily you, will find any reason to say Bush sucks in an attempt to somehow justify our own team's stupidity at choosing Mario #1. I don't want other players failures or somewhat disappointing performances used to make ourselves feel better about the selection of Mario. I want Mario to make us feel better about the pick....and I am still waiting.

One thing is for sure, I bet if we would have selected Bush, we would probably still have DC at QB and that can't be good. So at least we can take solace in that :)
 
The reason reggie isn't on ther eis because he's doing the same as last year. He's playing poorly as expected.

The rest of the guys had huge expecations ,thus have been disapointments
 
2. Shaun Alexander
3. Thomas Jones
5. Ced Benson
7. Frank Gore
9. Travis Henry
10. Larry Johnson

What do these 6 under performing RBs have in common?

They have all rushed for more yards then Reggie Bush, and yet they are all underperforming and Reggie isn't?

Yeah I ain't buying that.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
2. Shaun Alexander
3. Thomas Jones
5. Ced Benson
7. Frank Gore
9. Travis Henry
10. Larry Johnson

What do these 6 under performing RBs have in common?

They have all rushed for more yards then Reggie Bush, and yet they are all underperforming and Reggie isn't?

Yeah I ain't buying that.
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lay off the koolaid....RB does more than just run the ball and remember that he shared time at the beginning of the season. those may be excuses but he is used as a passing threat a lot out of the backfield and out wide. remember, those yards/production don't show up as rushing yards. look at all purpose yards and that is a better determination of one's production. it's called running back not rushing back.

i can't believe i am having to defend Bush, because i think he is a punk, but to try and paint him as a bad football player is just classic Houston homering.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
lay off the koolaid....RB does more than just run the ball and remember that he shared time at the beginning of the season. those may be excuses but he is used as a passing threat a lot out of the backfield and out wide. remember, those yards/production don't show up as rushing yards. look at all purpose yards and that is a better determination of one's production. it's called running back not rushing back.

i can't believe i am having to defend Bush, because i think he is a punk, but to try and paint him as a bad football player is just classic Houston homering.
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Yeah, cause if we go to the all powerful "Total yards stat" he is only getting beat by the following "underperforming" RBs:


2. Shaun Alexander
3. Thomas Jones
4. Cadillac Williams
5. Ced Benson
7. Frank Gore
8. Steven Jackson
9. Travis Henry
10. Larry Johnson

So besides the fact that he is not rushing the ball that well, and not racking up the always impressive "total yards per game" that well (he's an impressive 89th in the league) what else does Reggie Bush do that makes him NOT under performing?

Is it his abilities as a decoy?

As for sharing time, some of the guys on that list a) have missed games, b) some of them also share time with other RBs and QBs, and c) a couple of them play in some pass happy Os.

And I'm the one who needs to put down the Kool-Aid?
 
for me personally, Travis Henry has been an enormous flop in Denver. what was touted to be such a great union of his running style and the o-line of Denvers just never has materialized.

sense some bitterness on my part? he was one of my FF #1 picks and I'm close to not making the playoffs in that league. :gun:
 
Well here are some stats on Reggie Bush...

451 Rushing yards ranks him 28th.
50.1 Rushing yards/Game ranks him 34th (a whopping 0.4 yards per game more than Ron Friggin Dayne)
4 TD's ranks him tied for 13th.
3 Fumbles ranks him tied for 3rd.
120 Rushes ranks him 22nd.
Longest Rush 22 yards.

304 receiving yards ranks him 73rd (3rd for RB's)
2 receiving TD's ranks him tied for 2nd in RB's (Westbrook 4, Addai2)
33.8 receiving yards/game ranks him 3rd among RB's (5.5yard/catch avg)Longest reception 25 yards.

But wait there's more...we cannot forget his value as a punt returner and on defense after turnovers!

3 punt returns for 12 yards (4.0 yard avg) long of 10, with 1 fumble
2 solo tackles

So to Recap: (this includes rushes, receptions, punt returns)
Averaging 19.7 Touches per game.
Averaging 85.2 total yards per game.
Averaging .67 TD's per game.
Averaging .44 Fumbles per game.

Sure looks like he's earning that $13+ million dollars this year.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
considering the amount of hype given to Bush, anything short of Pro Bowl numbers would have been a disappointment. He has yet to reach that level, so that could be called disappointing. I would call it overhype and that he is what he is. a good running back with a lot of talent but a lot to learn about being a featured back (which is the only way one could justify a RB at #2 overall).

i just think some of us on this board, and not necessarily you, will find any reason to say Bush sucks in an attempt to somehow justify our own team's stupidity at choosing Mario #1. I don't want other players failures or somewhat disappointing performances used to make ourselves feel better about the selection of Mario. I want Mario to make us feel better about the pick....and I am still waiting.

One thing is for sure, I bet if we would have selected Bush, we would probably still have DC at QB and that can't be good. So at least we can take solace in that :)
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So you do not call Bush out for having a lot to learn, in fact you build him up for it. Then you tear down Mario for the exact same reason and you wonder why some find it hard to take what you say seriously.

Thanks for clearing that up.
 
raytex said:
It's dissapointing to see all the hate for Reggie... I thought Texans fans were better than that.
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So if you don't think a player hung the moon it is hate? I am pretty sure there is a long continuum between out of the league and hall of famer.
 
raytex said:
It's dissapointing to see all the hate for Reggie... I thought Texans fans were better than that.
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I would say that there is a lot more hate on this board for Vince Young, especially since he plays for a division rival.
 
I think it's more hate. This thread wasn't even about Reggie. This thread was about the top ten running back disapointments. But of course, Reggie's name had to be thrown into this. Reggie is not a great running back but he is far from a dissapointment. Many texans fans have insecurites about that draft and can't get over the fact that the media talked so much about the 06 draft and made fun of the Texans. Who cares? That is the only reason Reggie's name is even mentioned so much on this board. Because if the Texans drafted 5th that year, reggies name would hardly come up. And many of you are happy that we have Mario on this team and that's fine. I'd rather have Reggie but I don't throw rocks at Marios name everytime it comes up. Everyone has an opinion on this subject and I respect that but we are almost into 2008 and were are still talking about Vince, Reggie and Mario.
 
If you think that 3.7 yds per carry, 7.3 yds per reception, & 7.4 yds per punt return is worth nearly $60 million then thats fine.

But to me, that isnt the production that a #1 RB should have. I would qualify it as disappointing.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
There is a slight difference between thinking somebody is overrated and hating them.
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There's alot of players in the NFL that are overrated. But I only see Reggie and Vince's name coming up on this board when they mention overrated.
 
bah007 said:
If you think that 3.7 yds per carry, 7.3 yds per reception, & 7.4 yds per punt return is worth nearly $60 million then thats fine.

But to me, that isnt the production that a #1 RB should have. I would qualify it as disappointing.
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So you think 4 sacks and 23 tackles is worth 54 million?
 
raytex said:
And I didn't see Reggies Bush's name on that list. So why is he even brought up?
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Maybe that's what the debate in this thread has been about.

His name isnt on that list.

But most of the guys on that list have put up bad numbers because they are injured.

What is Bush's excuse for putting up disappointing numbers?
 
bah007 said:
Maybe that's what the debate in this thread has been about.

His name isnt on that list.

But most of the guys on that list have put up bad numbers because they are injured.

What is Bush's excuse for putting up disappointing numbers?
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Answer me this then. Who would you knock off from the list and replace them with reggie?
 
raytex said:
Answer me this then. Who would you knock off from the list and replace them with reggie?
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That is easy Carnell Williams. He got hurt so early on right as he was starting to produce, so since he has not played I would have taken him off the list.
 
raytex said:
Answer me this then. Who would you knock off from the list and replace them with reggie?
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Cadillac - he was injured.
Thomas Jones - he's had 2 100 yard games this season. 2 more than Bush has had this year.
 
Reggie Bush is an incredible athlete and is really exciting to watch.

With that said, some people including myself, don't undestand why he isn't on that list and while some players that are on the list shouldn't be. That's what this is about....what do WE think of this list? Do we agree or disagree with how the writer ranked them, how would we rank the top 10 most disappointing running backs, etc?

I too think there is undue smack talk against Vince and Reggie and the sole reason is because Houston got bashed for not taking BOTH of them. Sadly every thread can and probably will be turned into a mario/reggie/vince debate.

However, this thread is about Top 10 most disappointing RUNNING BACKS. Disappointment comes from the players play, stats, salary, etc. Thus, many feel Reggie should be included on the list. Ahman Green is on the list and rightfully so.
 
Specnatz said:
That is easy Carnell Williams. He got hurt so early on right as he was starting to produce, so since he has not played I would have taken him off the list.
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No way. Bush and cadillac have almost the same average per carry. 3.8 to 3.9 but reggie was averaging way more receptions and yards in the air. Cadillac had a whopping 3 receptions for 17 yrds for the whole season in recieving yards. Bush has 300 yrds recieving. And i'm sorry but getting injured is part of this equation. If your not on the field, you are not producing, then that is part of the equation.
 
raytex said:
Answer me this then. Who would you knock off from the list and replace them with reggie?
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I'd say Cadillac as well. But I might take off Larry Johnson...sure he has been a little disappointing but he still has done the following:

8 games has 158 rushes for 559 yards and 3 TD's
He has 3 100+ games.
Missed 1 game, held to 9 rushes in one game and 10 in another.
Has 30 receptions for 186 yards and 1 TD.
Thats 93 yards on 23.5 touches per game.
He has 1 fumble.

He's on pace for a 1400 yard season as primarily a RB that catches 3-4 passes a game. As opposed to a Running Back that receives twice as much and return punts who, combining all those, is on pace for less yards for the year.

I think the biggest dissappointment for him, comes from him holding out the beginning of the season for big $$$. So that would be the biggest reason he might stay on this list. However we all know how crappy Kansas City's Offensive Line has been so he's still done well considering they've lost 3 pro bowl OL'men the past couple years.
 
raytex said:
No way. Bush and cadillac have almost the same average per carry. 3.8 to 3.9 but reggie was averaging way more receptions and yards in the air. Cadillac had a whopping 3 receptions for 17 yrds for the whole season in recieving yards. Bush has 300 yrds recieving. And i'm sorry but getting injured is part of this equation. If your not on the field, you are not producing, then that is part of the equation.
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The reason I would take him off is because of when he suffered the injury. The body of work is not there to say one way or the other. Your trying to project what he would have or would not have done up to this point and I have never liked that because that never comes true either for the good or the bad of any player.
 
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