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Andrew6

Andrew6

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I know I may be reading into this a lil bit but are they going to start letting Rosenfels get some more reps? I was surprised to see Schaub on the sidelines with his head down showing emotion. Did they just take him out to save their #1 QB or did they put Rosenfels in to see how he would fair in the future?
 
Game was over. No point in getting your #1 hurt. That's why Sage was in there. Probably get him some game time as well.
 
Andrew6 said:
I know I may be reading into this a lil bit but are they going to start letting Rosenfels get some more reps? I was surprised to see Schaub on the sidelines with his head down showing emotion. Did they just take him out to save their #1 QB or did they put Rosenfels in to see how he would fair in the future?
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Oh, man, I don't know.

All I know is that Schaub can't throw a ball 40 yards. And Rosenfels can.
 
Pantherstang84 said:
It's called garbage time. Please don't read anything more than that into it. We don't need this debate to get started.
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I was just wondering if they were going to do the 2 qb system they are doing over in arizona. A team usually practices and gets ready for a team by the QB they have in the game if you have 2 different types of QB's in its hard to get ready for something like that. AZ had some success with that.
 
Lol. It was 30-9 when Rosenfels went in. No reason to leave Schaub out there any longer. That's all it was. Schaub is doing a kick ass job and is fine.
 
AnthonyE said:
Oh, man, I don't know.

All I know is that Schaub can't throw a ball 40 yards. And Rosenfels can.
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You have to be freaking kidding. Andre Davis had the highest YPR in the NFL before this game. Schaub's thrown plenty of 40+ yard passes to date. Moronic post, IMO.
 
Andrew6 said:
I was just wondering if they were going to do the 2 qb system they are doing over in arizona. A team usually practices and gets ready for a team by the QB they have in the game if you have 2 different types of QB's in its hard to get ready for something like that. AZ had some success with that.
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Playing QB is also about being in a rhythm. By having your QBs switching off, you dont allow either to get into a rhythm. I dont like the idea personally.
 
Andrew6 said:
I was just wondering if they were going to do the 2 qb system they are doing over in arizona. A team usually practices and gets ready for a team by the QB they have in the game if you have 2 different types of QB's in its hard to get ready for something like that. AZ had some success with that.
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Arizona's "success" was mostly yanking a stumbling Leinart and letting Warner do his thing.

It was hardly the balanced QBBC they act like....
 
Andrew6 said:
well thats kind of what got me why not atleast let Schaub pad his stats.
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His stats were fine. We just couldn't punch it into the endzone. Same reason why Gado was in and Green was watching. Playing it safe when the game was out of reach.
 
:: sigh :: hopefully this loss will light a fire under everyone and Houston will come out and blow up the Titans
 
Andrew6 said:
I was just wondering if they were going to do the 2 qb system they are doing over in arizona. A team usually practices and gets ready for a team by the QB they have in the game if you have 2 different types of QB's in its hard to get ready for something like that. AZ had some success with that.
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No two Qb system in AZ as Leinart broke his collar bone.
 
AnthonyE said:
Oh, man, I don't know.

All I know is that Schaub can't throw a ball 40 yards. And Rosenfels can.
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While Schaub may not have the strongest arm around it is strong enough to get the ball downfield for big plays.

In the first 6 games of this year, we've had more long pass plays than in the last couple of years of the strong armed Mr Carr.
 
kiwitexansfan said:
While Schaub may not have the strongest arm around it is strong enough to get the ball downfield for big plays.

In the first 6 games of this year, we've had more long pass plays than in the last couple of years of the strong armed Mr Carr.
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Yup. A lot more goes into big plays than just arm strength.
 
This is is just ridiculous.. Shaub played OK.. Not great but OK.. he would have had a TD if not for the boneheaded play by Davis.. Anyway, This is on the Defense, the defense stunk it up.. 3rd and 17 and the pussycats get a first, inexcusable.. The D has been letting us down not the O.
 
Andrew6 said:
well thats kind of what got me why not atleast let Schaub pad his stats.
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Pad his stats??:thud:

I think they should have a new rule on football message boards, to where members must say whether or not they play fantasy football, and if they do, put an asterisk by their login name.

That way, I can just put all the asterisks on ignore.
 
raytex said:
This is is just ridiculous.. Shaub played OK.. Not great but OK.. he would have had a TD if not for the boneheaded play by Davis..
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After 6 games the Texans have a mode of one offensive touchdown per game. That is a simple formula for repeated losses. I wouldn't grade a QB "OK" just because he should have led his team to one TD except for a dropped ball.

There are plenty of reasons and a great number of excuses for that pathetic stat, but the blame falls on everyone. Only a truly outstanding performance (such as Kevin Walter's or Kris Brown's career days) should raise anyone to an "OK until that stat is fixed.
 
Runner said:
After 6 games the Texans have a mode of one offensive touchdown per game. That is a simple formula for repeated losses. I wouldn't grade a QB "OK" just because he should have led his team to one TD except for a dropped ball.

There are plenty of reasons and a great number of excuses for that pathetic stat, but the blame falls on everyone. Only a truly outstanding performance (such as Kevin Walter's or Kris Brown's career days) should raise anyone to an "OK until that stat is fixed.
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They have one of the best Recievers in the league hurt and "probably" their number two reciever hurt also. I am not saying that Shaub has been great, but he really hasn't hurt this team, this team just doesn't really have an offensive punch right now.
 
Schaub is a good QB you can tell. I have faith in him, but he does seem to be good for almost a turnover a game. I do think though that he's one that learns from his mistakes. He threw those two bad interceptions in the red zone the first two games and hasn't since. He's had a couple of fumbles, but I think he'll figure something out to protect the ball better. When they showed him on the sideline with his hand over his face, I actually liked that. He has been pretty stoic in the games and it was good to see some emotion from him.

In the past we all hated when Carr was smiling on the sidelines while the Texans were getting killed. Schaub seems to take the game seriously. We have to remember he's essentially a rookie. This is his first year as a starter. There will be growing pains. He's already shown a lot of good things that Carr never did.

OK I'm starting to ramble a little bit, but you get the picture. I'm going to finish this 1554 and hit the sack. Hopefully I'll wake up to news that the Texans signed Michael Turner and André Johnson's twin brother. (wait I must have fallen asleep and started dreaming)
 
Twitch-Houston said:
Schaub is a good QB you can tell. I have faith in him, but he does seem to be good for almost a turnover a game. I do think though that he's one that learns from his mistakes. He threw those two bad interceptions in the red zone the first two games and hasn't since. He's had a couple of fumbles, but I think he'll figure something out to protect the ball better. When they showed him on the sideline with his hand over his face, I actually liked that. He has been pretty stoic in the games and it was good to see some emotion from him.

In the past we all hated when Carr was smiling on the sidelines while the Texans were getting killed. Schaub seems to take the game seriously. We have to remember he's essentially a rookie. This is his first year as a starter. There will be growing pains. He's already shown a lot of good things that Carr never did.

OK I'm starting to ramble a little bit, but you get the picture. I'm going to finish this 1554 and hit the sack. Hopefully I'll wake up to news that the Texans signed Michael Turner and André Johnson's twin brother. (wait I must have fallen asleep and started dreaming)
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Good point.
 
Schaub played fine. There were a couple of throws I would have preferred he not over/under throw but you can say that of almost any QB. I really didn't like that intentional grounding and I didn't like the fumble. But he's playing well.

We need better play-calling in the red zone.

But... even though we only put up 60 yards rushing on the Jags D, we were moving the ball pretty easily on one of the best defenses in the league. We just need to get it into the endzone. That fumble by Andre really, really hurt.
 
my thought is, if we had not gotten so screwed at the begining and got forced into throwing so much we could have settled down more and ran the ball. A team that has to fight from behind will have to throw more making them more suceptible to interceptions. Schaub did the best he could do. We do need to work more on the play calling in the red zone and in the draft next year pick up a RB that will be here for a while. I beleive our secondary is really starting to look alot better. There aren't alot of teams breaking 70 yard pass plays on us. Generally Houstons been great at stopping a teams run. I think the reason MJD had such a good day is the defense was just completely wore down. They never had to punt the ball. I think alot of that had to do on piss poor calls by the officals. JMHO
 
Actually if you get any inside info you will know that Schuab was pulled due to him being "dinged" as a Houston coach quoted after the game. You will hear more about this after his test results come back probably on Tuesday.
 
caddy said:
Another post, by you...not about football...
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Hey caddy, just how do you expect people to react to your agenda driven posts? You bang on the Carr critics, while at the same time, you had nothing good to say about Schaub???

You made your bed. Sleep in it.
 
caddy said:
Gee, could it have been carrying the ball like a loaf of bread and getting his 6th. fumble returend, for a touchdown and got benched. Not to say anything about the water works from his eyes.
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Isn't there a "davidcarrtalk.com" message board somewhere wondering where you are right now?

Just curious.
 
caddy said:
Yeah, I'm curious too, about getting our butts hand to us and you want to bring David Carr in to this.... Weak, but go ahead and put your head in the sand.
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We got our butts handed to us and niether Matt Schaub nor David Carr could have prevented that from happening. You can dance around the guys name all you want (leaving it to someone else to mention "David Carr" first) but there's not a single poster on this board who doesn't understand that your agenda is as much about knocking his replacement (and defending ol' DC after the fact) as it ever is about the Texans and the win/loss column.

There are a handful of posters still here who have been waiting for a truly bad Schaub game.The "Fresno Mafia" has moved on for the most part but there are still people who want to see the next guy fail because in their minds it makes the first guy look better.

You're one of them. It's hard to miss really.
 
Hervoyel said:
There are a handful of posters still here who have been waiting for a truly bad Schaub game.The "Fresno Mafia" has moved on for the most part but there are still people who want to see the next guy fail because in their minds it makes the first guy look better.

You're one of them. It's hard to miss really.
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Schaub's worse game so far has still looked better than Carr's best in my opinion.
 
caddy said:
Yeah, yeah, another great post. Same thing as the rest of your stuff. BOO-Hoo it's all David's fault. Grow-up, he's gone.
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Note: This is not about football. Why do you even come to this board? I seriously would like to know. It is very obvious that you are not a Texans' fan, but a David Carr fan. One has to seriously question your mental capacity (or your sexuality) since it is obvious that you cannot see that David Carr sucks. He is now a Carolina Panther, and the damn jabs that you continue to throw have gotten way more than old. Do yourself and everyone on this board a favor and log the **** out. Mods can we put this to a vote?
 
Hervoyel said:
We got our butts handed to us and niether Matt Schaub nor David Carr could have prevented that from happening. You can dance around the guys name all you want (leaving it to someone else to mention "David Carr" first) but there's not a single poster on this board who doesn't understand that your agenda is as much about knocking his replacement (and defending ol' DC after the fact) as it ever is about the Texans and the win/loss column.

There are a handful of posters still here who have been waiting for a truly bad Schaub game.The "Fresno Mafia" has moved on for the most part but there are still people who want to see the next guy fail because in their minds it makes the first guy look better.

You're one of them. It's hard to miss really.
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caddy said:
Yeah, yeah, another great post. Same thing as the rest of your stuff. BOO-Hoo it's all David's fault. Grow-up, he's gone.
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I'm pretty sure that's was Hervoyel said... He's gone, however there are still a few Carr Pimps that really do want to see Schaub perform poorly. And for those so-called Texans fans, they are pathetic. Schaub is our guy. PERIOD!
 
Schaub needs to protect the ball. He has a serious problem with that. Otherwise his game is excellant.

Zoolander is a joke. How did he hurt his back ? He's spineless.
 
caddy said:
Yeah, yeah, another great post. Same thing as the rest of your stuff. BOO-Hoo it's all David's fault. Grow-up, he's gone.
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You should click on my name to the left of this post and select "Find More Posts by Hervoyel". Then you would see that I've spent much of my time commenting on things like the problems with our running game and the sad state of affairs with our defense.

You might then compare that to your own posting history and the string of broken-record like posts that all dance around the one guy who isn't in the room anymore. You need to let go of the guy caddy. Sometimes despite how much we want it to work out we're just wrong about a player.
 
TexasOutlaw said:
Schaub needs to protect the ball. He has a serious problem with that. Otherwise his game is excellant.

Zoolander is a joke. How did he hurt his back ? He's spineless.
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He does. There are definitely problems with some of the things Matt Schaub does. Kubiak will either work them out or he'll flush him and likely at the same time doom himself because he's tied his wagon to Matt Schaub just like he did to David Carr when he came here. You can get away with that so many times and then you'll be heading out the door with them.

Still, Matt Schaub looks better in his 6th game as the Texans starter than David Carr did in any game he played here.

Right now we're not playing very well. That can't be denied. We've on average looked a lot better this year than we did last year or at any time since 2002 (with two exceptions. Our running game was better in 2003-2004 and our defense was better in 2002).
 
Schaub had some screw ups yesterday, that's for sure. But Schaub shown more natural talent for the QB position in five games than Carr did in five years.
 
TexasOutlaw said:
Schaub needs to protect the ball. He has a serious problem with that. Otherwise his game is excellant.
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IMO the problem is blindside protection. Salaam and Pitts have been getting beat on a constant basis. It's hard to hold on to the ball when you're getting planted from the backside.

On the play the fumble for a TD occured, the camera came back and showed Salaam sitting on his butt from getting beat. That picture was a sign of defeat. :wild:
 
Thorn said:
Schaub had some screw ups yesterday, that's for sure. But Schaub shown more natural talent for the QB position in five games than Carr did in five years.
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I agree and I can't even believe this a thread. I am starting to think that people as Texans fans will never be happy with what we have. When I see Schaub play it is on another level than what we have had before. Our running game has been non-existent and we have injuries everywhere but this guy stands in and take a beating at times while delivering passes. He has his head in the game and I rarely see bad sacks. I think the guy is playing like a vet despite having 7-8 starts in his career. I think we got lucky to get him.
 
jaxfan21 said:
Actually if you get any inside info you will know that Schuab was pulled due to him being "dinged" as a Houston coach quoted after the game. You will hear more about this after his test results come back probably on Tuesday.
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He was injured in the Falcons game. He was benched due to the game being out of reach, so why risk your franchise QB?

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"I think Sage needed the reps," Kubiak said. "Matt took some shots. He's a battler. He's in there playing his tail off. I didn't think it made very much sense to beat him up anymore. I felt the same way as I did about Ahman (Green)."
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caddy, you seem to revel in the fact when you think Schaub plays poorly, talking about a vendetta. No offense but are you David's Grandfather?
 
Schaub did not have 100 missed tackles yesterday! That lil' midget ran right over (or under, depending on your perspective) our D! That was a problem.
3rd and 17 and no stop! was a problem
Bad officiating! was a problem
no touchdowns in the red zone was a problem!
Our TEAM lost, not Schaub!
And BTW CADDY, The only one that is "curious" is Carr and it is called "BI-Curious"
 
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