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Running Game?

TexansSeminole

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If Ahman Green stays out or is hampered by injury and Ron Dayne is hampered as well, our running game is looking pretty weak. We desperately need to get a running back...get Wali Lundy back or something. 40 yards rushing against the Colts defense is not going to cut it.
 
TexansSeminole said:
If Ahman Green stays out or is hampered by injury and Ron Dayne is hampered as well, our running game is looking pretty weak. We desperately need to get a running back...get Wali Lundy back or something. 40 yards rushing against the Colts defense is not going to cut it.
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The Colts did not play Cover-2 in the beginning, they were playing an 8 man box. They didn't go to Cover-2 until they were up by a couple of touchdowns.

They still need to be able to run, and I don't think Gado is the special kind of runner that can deal with that.

Rick Smith is going to be plenty this week plugging lots of holes.
 
I would be calling Norv Turner to see about Michael Turner, if it takes next years #1 pick to get him it might be something to think about :hmmm: (no #1 or #2 would suck but it sucks harder to be so close to beating the Colts & not have a healthy, quality back to tote the rock.

Off subject a couple years, did anyone see that redshirt freshman Georgia has @ RB Knowshon Moreno in that OT win last night in Alabama? very impressive, explosive breakaway speed, toughness between the tackles great size 5-10 1/2 208 gonna be a stud.
 
I doubt that the Texans would give up next year's #1 pick for Turner. They might be able to draft a better RB with that pick next year.
 
Just to spread the wealth, I don't think the Texans o-line did a very good job of opening up holes for Gado. But they weren't very good about it last year, either. I think the way Green/Dayne are able to create holes is what is really helping out the team, so that any time the Texans are without these two, we can expect to see similar results.

The run game is probably the most important aspect of this team's game philosophy. It sets up everything else. To not have it work (like today) will complicate matters for the Texans.
 
BattleRedToro said:
I doubt that the Texans would give up next year's #1 pick for Turner. They might be able to draft a better RB with that pick next year.
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nobody comes to mind in next years draft @ the RB position, certainly none that can help now, if Turner was coming out he would project as the #1 RB unless Darren McFadden declares early & he's a top 5 pick.

it all depends on the injury report concerning Green & Dayne of course but with a real dynamic RB threat like Turner the Texans would be a playoff team (picking low to mid 20's). without a healthy, explosive RB they sturggle to .500 which is a shame.

sure could use Chris Taylor about now :cool:
 
They didn't... but the boy is slow as all get out as well... Green needs to heal quickly...

I was surprised we didn't go for more screens once he was out... but then we ran one (Forget who with) and he didn't realize he had a blocker in front of him and ran right into a Colt.
 
beerlover said:
nobody comes to mind in next years draft @ the RB position, certainly none that can help now, if Turner was coming out he would project as the #1 RB unless Darren McFadden declares early & he's a top 5 pick.

it all depends on the injury report concerning Green & Dayne of course but with a real dynamic RB threat like Turner the Texans would be a playoff team (picking low to mid 20's). without a healthy, explosive RB they sturggle to .500 which is a shame.

sure could use Chris Taylor about now :cool:
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Next year's draft is loaded with running backs

Darren McFadden
Steve Slaton
Felix Jones
Ray Rice
Mike Hart
 
In Kubiak's system, the RB isn't what's important, it's the OL. Obviously the OL hasn't done well in run blocking. We don't need a 1st round pick as a RB, we need the OL to step up and punch the DL in the mouth and open some holes.

So far, the running game has sucked. We can't be a pass-only offense, we need to be able to prove that we have a 100 yd. a game back and so far we haven't done it. Having a decent running game+Matt Schaub+healthy receivers=great offense.

Jameel Cook being our back isn't going to cut it.
 
I agree that the OL needs ot be a huge upgrade next year... it's been neglected too long... but with the RBs coming out next year I could see the Texans getting a big time OL in the first and a top tier RB in the second.
 
jaybird said:
I agree that the OL needs ot be a huge upgrade next year... it's been neglected too long... but with the RBs coming out next year I could see the Texans getting a big time OL in the first and a top tier RB in the second.
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We already know our round 2 pick next year. His name is Matt Schaub, and is our starting QB. :)
 
jaybird said:
I agree that the OL needs ot be a huge upgrade next year... it's been neglected too long... but with the RBs coming out next year I could see the Texans getting a big time OL in the first and a top tier RB in the second.
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Do you mean with the second that we traded to Atlanta for Matt Schaub?
 
A few passes caught in stride today(read a little better chemistry) and the Colts would've had to call off the dogs and play the pass. That's where we really missed AJ. I was impressed with JJ and Davis, though. Either one would seem to be an upgrade over Walter, who doesn't seem to get open very often. Sometimes, ya gotta use the pass to set up the run. I would've liked to have seen a trick play or two today to try and burn the over-pursuing Colts D. I'll look for opportunities for that and study the coverages a little harder during the week.
 
tulexan said:
Next year's draft is loaded with running backs

Darren McFadden
Steve Slaton
Felix Jones
Ray Rice
Mike Hart
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of your list only Mike Hart is a Senior. I really like him he's smart & a hardworker but he's small, overused, lacks explosion & not 1st rd. material. I mentioned McFadden as underclassman who if declares is a top 5 pick, do you think the Texans are gonna pick in the top 5? top 10? Slaton, Jones & Rice are all underclassman.
 
I would be shocked if Slaton, Jones, and Rice all didn't declare. The shelf life for running backs are so short and at any moment can end a season (or career with an injury).
 
tulexan said:
I would be shocked if Slaton, Jones, and Rice all didn't declare. The shelf life for running backs are so short and at any moment can end a season (or career with an injury).
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when discussing the next draft scouts/gurus (like Kipper) limit grades to those eliglble for the draft which as of right now is the senior class only. But if you insist on circumventing due process all three are high profile slot backs not the type that pound between the tackles, make one move & run straight downhill :)
 
I think the running game, like the passing game, has been created to not need a substantial presence from the o-line. Green and Dayne, when they have looked good, have made holes where holes did not exist.

Now granted, I have seen some new blocking schemes that are helping Green out. Pitts bulldozing inside for Green was very successful in the first two games. But I think in the end, the Texans run game is based on two backs who are used to pushing defensive linemen around. So when you take out those two guys, it doesn't matter who is replacing them - the running back is going to struggle.

If the Texans are going to look into drafting a running back, then they don't need to look for the top-tier running backs behind the elite line. They need to look for the big bruiser-type backs who ram through defensive lines. This is what the system is based on.
 
I don't think that is what the O-line blocking scheme is based on as you say, but it may be all that this O-line is currently capable of doing.
 
After Green left the game for the last time (after the direct snap), the team handed off to Cook, then Gado, then Cook three more times. That concluded the first half. If Cook is that much better than Gado at tailback, we should have kept Lundy, or Walker, or Bob from Accountemps. If you're a 3rd string RB and you don't get the carries when the first two go down, then why the hell are you even on the depth chart?
 
Texans Horror said:
If the Texans are going to look into drafting a running back, then they don't need to look for the top-tier running backs behind the elite line. They need to look for the big bruiser-type backs who ram through defensive lines. This is what the system is based on.
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I don't agree with this. Ahman Green isn't a big bruiser back. I think we actually need a really fast back who can explode through the holes before they close and get to the second level. Hopefully Darius Walker can get a chance to show his skills because I think he has a lot of potential and offers a lot more than Gado.
 
The Texans need a speed back badly. We already have enough guys that can run forward and fall over for 3 yards.

Slaton would be the perfect back for the system, but I doubt he will fall that far.
 
The1ApplePie said:
The Texans need a speed back badly. We already have enough guys that can run forward and fall over for 3 yards.

Slaton would be the perfect back for the system, but I doubt he will fall that far.
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You never know. Running backs have fallen big time in the past and it wouldn't surprise me if Steve Slaton or Felix Jones fell to us (where ever we are).
 
I guess Rick Smith could stand pat & wait til the offseason to address RB again via draft or FA. by the way Michael Turner is due to be an unrestricted free agent & you know San Diego is'nt going to re-sign him to #1 RB money with LT on the roster. I would expect them to be in the market to get what they can for him now before he walks. If the Texans could come to an agreement with the Chargers & Turner on a contract extension its entirely possible. keep posted you heard it here first :pirate:
 
Should be interesting to see what happens next week. Kubiak in today's presser said that the running game would be a point of emphasis this week.
 
So is this how I'm seeing this

Green--Day to Day but most likely being sat this week. Questionable.

HoHo Dayne--Could have played last week but sat and should be starting or getting a load this week

Gado--Will play but can't believe we have to..may start but probably just splitting carries

Darius--Left on practice squad because of Dayne

That it?
 
HoustonFrog said:
So is this how I'm seeing this

Green--Day to Day but most likely being sat this week. Questionable.

HoHo Dayne--Could have played last week but sat and should be starting or getting a load this week

Gado--Will play but can't believe we have to..may start but probably just splitting carries

Darius--Left on practice squad because of Dayne

That it?
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per: www.kffl.com/team/18/nfl

Texans | Green expected to play Week 4
Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:06:05 -0700

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports Houston Texans RB Ahman Green (knee) is expected to play Week 4.


Texans | Dayne will likely play Week 4
Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:05:46 -0700

Megan Manfull, of the Housotn Chronicle, reports Houston Texans RB Ron Dayne (ribs) should practice this week and will likely play Week 4.
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Looks like all the RBs will be playing this weekend.
 
Yankee_In_TX said:
There's a reason Walker went undrafted and got cut by us. LOL, we'll agree to disagree.
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Yes, because undrafted free agents never pan out.

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tulexan said:
Yes, because undrafted free agents never pan out.

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Please don't tell me you are expecting Walker to come in and be the next Priest Holmes are you? Holmes' situation coming into the draft was fairly different then Walker's. Holmes as a FB his last years at UT, Walker was the featured back; being the biggest difference.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
Please don't tell me you are expecting Walker to come in and be the next Priest Holmes are you? Holmes' situation coming into the draft was fairly different then Walker's. Holmes as a FB his last years at UT, Walker was the featured back; being the biggest difference.
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No, I'm not saying that he is going to be Priest Holmes. I am saying that where you are drafted (or not drafted) is irrelevant. There have been too many cases to name where late draft picks have out performed high draft picks.

Wasn't Chris Taylor undrafted too?
 
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