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Adam Schefter reports Carr will not be leaving Houston

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By Adam Schefter
NFL Analyst




Adam Schefter's "Around the League" reports and commentaries can be seen regularly on NFL Total Access.

INDIANAPOLIS (Feb. 25, 2007)

A NEW CARR

After watching the college quarterbacks this weekend and further assessing the potential free-agent class, the Houston Texans came away even more convinced that David Carr will be their quarterback this season.

Up until now, the Texans have said they would listen to offers for Carr, but never have committed to trading him. And upon further review, Texans officials now believe that Carr is their best alternative and they won't be making a trade for Denver's Jake Plummer or any other quarterback.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10021837


If a mod reads this, and can place a c in Schefter in the title, it would be appriciated.
 
How awkward would it be for the Texans to bring Carr back, now? It just seems that letting David go would be in the best interests of both parties.

Maybe Kubiak & Smith didn't realize the Broncos would play hardball in obtaining Plummer? Maybe they are content with waiting Shanahan out, with Jake getting an outright release? Plummer already knows the offense, there's no real need to get him in early. I just can't believe that bringing Carr back was the plan entering the offseason.
 
I've always thought David Car is worth more than a 4th rd. pick. if Drew Henson was worth a 3rd, David is worth at least a 2nd. the Texans are either trying to drive his value up or now realize to replace him with a comparable talent it would take at least a late 1st early 2nd.

I still beleive the Texans are trying to find a way to draft Kevin Kolb.
 
Wow. Even though this isn't official its sounds like its most likely true. I was sure he'd be traded but deep down i think he's McNair's boy and won't be going anywhere.
 
Lucky said:
How awkward would it be for the Texans to bring Carr back, now? It just seems that letting David go would be in the best interests of both parties.
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I would agree.
If the Texans thought the retain DC/pass on VY decisions were controversial
last year after the disappointing season Carr had coupled with Youngs ROY season were controversial, this year could be even more of a PR firestorm if Carr were to start. And they've got to sell some tickets before the season begins, and this year there is the real possibility of some local TV blackouts.
 
I know that makes some of you staunch DC non-likers (PC) :cry2: :hairpull: , let me be the 1st to institute a suicide watch for a couple of posters here, you know who you are.
 
Could be based on Brady Quinn's performance at the combine. SI reports it was subpar and that the QB lost a lot of ground there:

scouts were astonished Brady Quinn decided the leave the combine without throwing in the RCA Dome. This comes on the heals of the phantom injury that forced Quinn to withdraw from the Senior Bowl three days before the event began. Quinn's draft stock has taken a major hit at the combine. There are questions about his decision making on and off the field as well as his leadership skills.
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OSQ said:
Could be based on Brady Quinn's performance at the combine. SI reports it was subpar and that the QB lost a lot of ground there:
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I think that's bull....


Neither VY nor Leinart worked out at the combine...Atleast Brady Quinn got in there and bench pressed...He actually did pretty well...

I watched a good part of the combine coverage, and nothing I saw indicated Quinn had lost any ground....
 
Texans Pride said:
By Adam Schefter
NFL Analyst




Adam Schefter's "Around the League" reports and commentaries can be seen regularly on NFL Total Access.

INDIANAPOLIS (Feb. 25, 2007)

A NEW CARR

After watching the college quarterbacks this weekend and further assessing the potential free-agent class, the Houston Texans came away even more convinced that David Carr will be their quarterback this season.

Up until now, the Texans have said they would listen to offers for Carr, but never have committed to trading him. And upon further review, Texans officials now believe that Carr is their best alternative and they won't be making a trade for Denver's Jake Plummer or any other quarterback.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10021837


If a mod reads this, and can place a c in Schefter in the title, it would be appriciated.
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Well, this is certainly good news. In addition to this story, there are other very credible NFL writers citing good sources that Jake Plummer will likely be traded, rather than cut, from Denver, and the Texans are bowing out of the potential bidding for Plummer. This increases the liklihood that David is going to camp as the Texans starting QB in 2007. :highfive:
 
QB75 said:
In addition to this story, there are other very credible NFL writers citing good sources that Jake Plummer will likely be traded, rather than cut, from Denver, and the Texans are bowing out of the potential bidding for Plummer.
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Do you have some links to these articles? I'm not questioning their existence, I (and others) would just like to read them.
 
Lucky said:
How awkward would it be for the Texans to bring Carr back, now? It just seems that letting David go would be in the best interests of both parties.

Maybe Kubiak & Smith didn't realize the Broncos would play hardball in obtaining Plummer? Maybe they are content with waiting Shanahan out, with Jake getting an outright release? Plummer already knows the offense, there's no real need to get him in early. I just can't believe that bringing Carr back was the plan entering the offseason.
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No, its because they realize there is no better option. Now lets get off the Carr subject once and for all.
 
If the Texans keep Carr, they would have to start him as they can't possibly
pay him his contract if he's only a backup, and no way Carr will restructure at
this point given all he's gone thru and the limitations to his future here.
But I dunno, because of the way they handled last year when they passed on
Vince Young, and Reggie Bush, who would have been
a PR coup and certainly made a contribution to our struggling offense, for
Mario, maybe they are really this clueless and insensitive about public relations with the fan base ?
I dunno, but after the Texans go back and forth with this Carr issue and then ultimately keep him for the 2007 season - WOW ! I'd have to say that McNair and his FO are just tonedeaf.
 
No biggie... this just means Carr better perform come camp.

I expect the Texans to draft Kolb and put the pressure on David.
 
Blu said:
I expect the Texans to draft Kolb and put the pressure on David.
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Look, I like Kevin Kolb as much as anyone. But, he's not going to press for a starting job in the NFL as a rookie.

BTW, Kolb has an ESPN chat scheduled for 2 p.m. CST.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I think that's bull....


Neither VY nor Leinart worked out at the combine...Atleast Brady Quinn got in there and bench pressed...He actually did pretty well...

I watched a good part of the combine coverage, and nothing I saw indicated Quinn had lost any ground....
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Could be bull. I'm just connecting dots.

I don't think VY or Leinart had anything to prove last year. After the loss to LSU, lots of questions surfaced about Quinn.
 
There's two ways to look at it:

1) This is all smoke screen and mirrors by the Texans, part of the mental games that teams play with each other. Obviously acting like Carr is our starter and would take a good deal to trade him makes his value rise.

2) There is nothing on the market that is a significant improvement over Carr, and nobody is offering us squat for a trade. There is no point in downgrading our QB position when we're taking a cap hit regardless if he's here or not.

I think it's more about the second option, and teams just aren't offering us much right now. Carr will probably be in TC to compete for the starting job, and hopefully with a consistent RB, much improved defense, and Pro Bowl offensive line. We'll need these improvements for Carr to succeed, even according to his most diehard supporters.
 
Lucky said:
Do you have some links to these articles? I'm not questioning their existence, I (and others) would just like to read them.
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This what John McClain is reporting. Not sure if he's updated his blog, but this was his story on Radio 610 this morning. McLain says the Vikings have draft picks to spare, are close to being able to win, and would be one of few teams willing to give Mike Shanahan a draft pick for Plummer rather than wait for him to be cut. Under that scenario, McLain says that the Texans would back away from pursuing Plummer because they are not willing to give up a pick.
 
OSQ said:
Could be bull. I'm just connecting dots.

I don't think VY or Leinart had anything to prove last year. After the loss to LSU, lots of questions surfaced about Quinn.
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Questions like "Why can't the Irish play defense?" or "Why were the Irish overrated all season long?"???

Quinn's taking a lot of heat for his TEAM being unable to win the big games.
 
Not so fast.

2-26-07

As far as the draft, RB Adrian Peterson appears to be the favorite for the team's pick at No. 3 should they stay put. That being said, rumors are running rampant that the Houston Texans are interested in moving up the draft board for a shot at Peterson and could propose a trade to the Browns that would send starting QB David Carr and draft picks to Cleveland for the No. 3 position.
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One thing's for sure on this one. When one rumor turns up, then there's another one that says the exact opposite somewhere else.
 
Welcome to another losing season. As long as Carr is here, this is about as close as we will get to winning. :wheel:
 
Lets hope it lights a fire under Carr to take more on his shoulders knowing that he is this close to being sent packing. Maybe this is the kick in the rear he needed. You can have your opinion about him and go ahead and pack the season in already but I like to see what happens. Their just not anybody out there that is a upgrade, Plummer please Quinn yea ok , how about Sage well no thank you. I'm not a Carr lover but giving my choices I will take Carr.
 
Double Barrel said:
There's two ways to look at it:

1) This is all smoke screen and mirrors by the Texans, part of the mental games that teams play with each other. Obviously acting like Carr is our starter and would take a good deal to trade him makes his value rise.
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I doubt this is part of the equation. When a team says something like what Schefter reported, that means dude is now off the market, so don't even call.



QB75 said:
This what John McClain is reporting. Not sure if he's updated his blog, but this was his story on Radio 610 this morning. McLain says the Vikings have draft picks to spare, are close to being able to win, and would be one of few teams willing to give Mike Shanahan a draft pick for Plummer rather than wait for him to be cut. Under that scenario, McLain says that the Texans would back away from pursuing Plummer because they are not willing to give up a pick.
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This sounds believable........ not only are the Vikings willing, but the Raiders can offer Jerry Porter or Moss, or Justin Fargas to get Plummer, the Texans have been priced out of the Plummer Market.
 
The biggest thing we all have to remember is that this is our first year without Casserly to f*&^ up our draft. Let us all be patient and see what transpires as the offseason goes along. If nothing else, David has seen the writting on the wall. "Put up or get the hell out." I'm not saying that it's completely fair given what the guy has been through. However, the Front Office is saying under no certain terms, "this is your absolute last chance David." If he really wants to stay here and be a winner, then he'll get his act together. If the FO thinks this will never happen here, I see us trading up to get Peterson but I don't know how far we'll move up. #3 last year got a heck of a lot of money. Can we afford that under the cap?
 
QB75 said:
...McLain says the Vikings have draft picks to spare, are close to being able to win, and would be one of few teams willing to give Mike Shanahan a draft pick for Plummer rather than wait for him to be cut.
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Plummer would have to agree to play for the Vikings. Else, he could "retire" and the deal is off. Plummer is in the driver's seat here, not the Broncos.
 
thunderkyss said:
I doubt this is part of the equation. When a team says something like what Schefter reported, that means dude is now off the market, so don't even call.
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Could be true, but the way it was reported leaves me wondering:

And upon further review, Texans officials now believe that Carr is their best alternative...
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Who are these "Texans officials"? I have not read a story with actual names being dropped, and I still maintain that nothing is solid until Rick Smith, Gary Kubiak, or Bob McNair are quoted.

If we seem desperate to move Carr, then teams can wait and try to make a bargain deal. But if we seem like we are going to keep him as the starter, then his value increases.

Adam Schefter is not the be all/end all of information about the Texans. He's just another gossip reporter spouting what he hears.
 
Hopefully the upcoming year will be a better one, regardless of who will be the starting QB. If the season is similar to last year, I can bring my work with me and get a lot done.
 
TEXANS84 said:
I don't know.....I just see smokescreen all over this.
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I usually tend to think the same thing when its somebody from the organization saying it, but Schefter doesnt have anything riding on what the Texans do so why would he report something he knows is false? Obviously he was told something by somebody he trusts that tells him Carr is staying, remember, this is the guy who said Art Shell was going to be fired a month before the season was over. I tend to trust him alot more than our own sports writers who have their own agenda's. With that said, it looks like Carr is coming back, but I dont expect the starting job will be handed to him. I expect Sage is going to have a shot this preseason and we are going to draft a QB to develop *cough* Kolb * cough *. And as has already been said, maybe this offseason will be a wake up call for David and he will come out with a fire to get better and show us all that he can be what we thought he was when he was drafted.
 
The media is nothing but a tool to these teams, especially this time of year. Do a little digging in the forum and Schefter was reporting that we are moving Carr because his "Texans officials" told him that Kubiak wants nothing to do with Carr anymore and has lost all confidence in him as a QB. (We never found out who those "Texans officials" were then, as well.)

While I still think Carr will be a Texan in 2007, I do not believe that Schefter has the inside track to the Smith/Kubiak/McNair decision making process. He throws stuff at the wall and gets credit for whatever sticks.
 
QB75 said:
McLain says the Vikings have draft picks to spare, are close to being able to win, and would be one of few teams willing to give Mike Shanahan a draft pick for Plummer rather than wait for him to be cut. .
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After second thought, this would also mean the Vikings would chose Plummer over Carr, if Carr was in fact on the block.
 
I can already hear the rain of Boos coming down when they announce Carr for the first time. This is going to get ugly, real ugly!
 
Kolb's stock seems to be rising, according to Fox Sports -

The name to watch among quarterbacks: Kevin Kolb

Last year, Football Outsiders writer David Lewin discovered that two collegiate statistics are strong indicators for a successful NFL quarterback: completion percentage and total games started. And when you look at these stats for the quarterbacks at the NFL combine, one name jumps out at you: Kevin Kolb of Houston. Kolb completed 62 percent of passes in 50 starts. (By comparison, Brady Quinn completed 58 percent of passes in 46 starts.)

Those same stats, however, are also good indicators of a system quarterback who won't succeed in the NFL. Figuring out whether Kolb is one or the other is what the scouts are for. Kolb knew that he went into the draft process with the need to prove that he isn't a system quarterback — and so far, he's succeeding. A couple of scouts and an NFL quarterback coach told me Kolb is the best quarterback in the draft other than the big two of JaMarcus Russell and Quinn. There's a general feeling that no quarterback helped himself more at the Senior Bowl.

Despite Kolb's improvement in the eyes of many scouts, however, he's still expected to go no higher than the third round.
 
Lucky said:
How awkward would it be for the Texans to bring Carr back, now? It just seems that letting David go would be in the best interests of both parties.

Maybe Kubiak & Smith didn't realize the Broncos would play hardball in obtaining Plummer? Maybe they are content with waiting Shanahan out, with Jake getting an outright release? Plummer already knows the offense, there's no real need to get him in early. I just can't believe that bringing Carr back was the plan entering the offseason.
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Not awkward at all. Kubes, Smith and McNair are the "triangle offense". We thought Kubes/Smith were great additions & I for one am going with their assessments. I have thought it unlike Kubes to give Carr only one year under his system. Now:

1. Peterson 2. Kolb in 2-3 years could be perfect replacement for DC 3. Sabby Piscitelli S/S 6'3" 225 ranked # 96 of NFLs top 100 prospects. I really like what I've read about this guy. 4. Tony Ugoh (makes Carr smile) 5. Louis Leonard DT 6'5" 320 Fresno state.

A corner in f/a and yes, we can afford Nate Clemments! With an off season as stated above, fans will be ok. Carr behind Ugoh, Pitts, Flannagan/McKinney, Spencer, Winston & Salaam will be more confident. AP along with a more confident Dayne will improve offense. Carr will not miraculously turn the team to a SB contender but I do expect to see much progress this season.
 
MightyTExan said:
Front Office: "I think we neeed a new QB."
Carr" (waves hand) "These aren't the droids you're looking for"
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Kenobi, you and your Jedi mind tricks! I wonder how many people do not even get that reference? We're getting older....older...olde...r......:doot:

Also....does anyone think seriously that Carr will be back as a backup? Why in the world? Why not just cut him? Who pays a backup that much to sit and well...back up?

If he's back in 2007 - he starts...period. If he's not starting, he's NOT here. That's MHO.
 
One way to keep Carr's value up is for Rick and Gary to do exactly what they are doing. It's possible that they are being totally honest and forthcoming with the media, and may decide to keep Carr. But it's also quite possible that Carr is just as available as he was a month ago (if he ever was).

A couple of things I've learned not to do at the end of February is put too much stock in combine numbers or rumor mills.
 
Blu said:
No biggie... this just means Carr better perform come camp.

I expect the Texans to draft Kolb and put the pressure on David.
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If their plan is to draft a QB for the future, Quinn is better than Kolb and will be available with the number 8 pick.
 
Meloy said:
Not awkward at all. Kubes, Smith and McNair are the "triangle offense". We thought Kubes/Smith were great additions & I for one am going with their assessments. I have thought it unlike Kubes to give Carr only one year under his system. Now:

1. Peterson 2. Kolb in 2-3 years could be perfect replacement for DC 3. Sabby Piscitelli S/S 6'3" 225 ranked # 96 of NFLs top 100 prospects. I really like what I've read about this guy. 4. Tony Ugoh (makes Carr smile) 5. Louis Leonard DT 6'5" 320 Fresno state.

A corner in f/a and yes, we can afford Nate Clemments! With an off season as stated above, fans will be ok. Carr behind Ugoh, Pitts, Flannagan/McKinney, Spencer, Winston & Salaam will be more confident. AP along with a more confident Dayne will improve offense. Carr will not miraculously turn the team to a SB contender but I do expect to see much progress this season.
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I incorrectly switched my 3 & 4th picks. Ugoh should be avail @ 73rd pick in 3rd round and Piscitlelli at 103rd pick in 4th. At least I'm hoping Ugoh is there.
 
Wharton said:
I can already hear the rain of Boos coming down when they announce Carr for the first time. This is going to get ugly, real ugly!
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It would be. But this is all just posturing.
The FO would look like even bigger bafoons if they kept Davey for a sixth losing season.
 
DRAMA said:
Kenobi, you and your Jedi mind tricks! I wonder how many people do not even get that reference? We're getting older....older...olde...r......:doot:

Also....does anyone think seriously that Carr will be back as a backup? Why in the world? Why not just cut him? Who pays a backup that much to sit and well...back up?

If he's back in 2007 - he starts...period. If he's not starting, he's NOT here. That's MHO.
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I may be wrong, but I do believe veteran back-ups get paid somewhere in the neighborhood of $5million a year. Usually that is comparable to the $7.5 million Carr will make in '07(salary, plus prorated bonus)... But if we forget about the bonus, and just look at paying Carr $5mill, it's not too far off. We've been overpaying him as a starting QB for the last 5 years, I don't see why we can't overpay him as a back-up.

Besides, until we draft someone of his "pedigree" Carr will be looked at as our "future" as long as he is on the team. Starting someone in front of him doesn't make him a back-up anymore than it makes him our QB being groomed.

I think it will be helpful for him to sit on the sidelines, and experience the game from there. For him to see how another QB handles the situations that he'll have to handle in the future.

It should help, not having all the pressure that goes with the being starting QB, and if he gets into a game, he should be able to just let it all hang out because we are either already losing, or because he's just a back-up.
 
2BCarrFree said:
It would be. But this is all just posturing.
The FO would look like even bigger bafoons if they kept Davey for a sixth losing season.
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So far, I haven't seen that as a deterrent to any decision that needs to be made yet.
 
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