Vince Young AP Offensive ROY

[Vinny]

Imagine if we picked him and had both offensive and defensive ROY's.....

Young, who led Texas to the 2005 national championship and was the third overall pick in last April's draft, overwhelmed one of the strongest rookie classes in NFL history. He received 23 votes from a nationwide panel of 50 sports writers and broadcasters who cover the league.

That easily beat New Orleans wide receiver Marques Colston and Jacksonville running back Maurice Drew, who had nine apiece; San Diego tackle Marcus McNeill (6); and Saints running back Reggie Bush (3).

Running back Carnell "Cadillac" Williams of Tampa Bay won the award last year. Young is the third member of the Tennessee-Houston franchise to take top rookie honors: Earl Campbell in 1978 and Eddie George in 1996 did it for the Houston Oilers.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-nfloffensiverookie&prov=ap&type=lgns

 

[travfrancis]

Congrats to VY!

Since you mentioned it. If the Texans had drafted Vince #1 that might have been the best draft all time.

VY
Ryans
Spencer
Winston
Daniels
Lundy

that would have been crazy.

 

[ATX]

Imagine if we picked him and had both offensive and defensive ROY's.....


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-nfloffensiverookie&prov=ap&type=lgns

I see your point, but I don't think he would of did what he did as a Texan his rookie year.

 

[Lucky]

I don't know why not...

For one, the Texans don't play out of the shotgun.

 

[powerfuldragon]

The Texans don't win games either...so what's your point?

Hahahaha

 

[Cheddar]

The Texans don't win games either...so what's your point? I'm sure the franchise that passed on Julius Peppers because he didn't fit the system is happy to pass on Young who didn't fit the system.....wanna know who did fit the Texans system? Jason Babin and David Carr.

Tennessee won 4 more games with Vince Young at QB and Houston improved by 4 wins too. Stop with the Vince nut-hugging already. Vince wasn't the reason Tennessee won all those games anymore than Carr being the reason we won four more.

It's a team game.

 

[Nawzer]

Congrats to VY.

 

[texasguy346]

Imagine what Jones-Drew could've done if he wasn't splitting time with Taylor. The Jags sure found themselves a gem late in the second round.

Colston started off the season well, but he was slowed by injury during the second half of the season. He's got a bright future if he continues to perform like he did early on.

Congrats to VY though he deserved it.

 

[Trap_Star]

Congrats to VY...but he is who we thought he was, and we let him off the hook!!...

 

[Cheddar]

I'm gonna give my opinion whether you like it or not...talk some football or get out of the forum.....all the little digs and personal attacks for the guys giving opinion ruins this place. Take your nut hugging comments to the other Texans forums....I'm so sick of that kind of talk here just because you don't like VY. I'll talk about VY all I want in the NFL forum.

But your digs about Houston not winning games is fine? All I did was speak the truth. The pregame shows and analysts were all over VY all season long despite his league worst completion percentage, despite his crusty QB rating and despite the fact that his defense and special teams carried him more than twice and then start talking about how Houston screwed up by not taking him? I don't see it. I doubt VY would have carried Houston to more than 4 more wins. Each team improved the same amount of games and Houston did so with 13 players, many of them starters, on the IR.

 

[aj.]

The point is would Kubiak have brought in a few of the staple 'zone read' plays to integrate into the Texans offense like Chow did up there...

If the answer is yes, I think Vince could have had the same immediate impact here.

If the answer is no, and Kubiak forced Vince to work entirely in his offensive system, then he might not have had the same level of immediate impact here.

A lot of the credit goes to Chow, I think, in how he's worked with him ...

 

[nunusguy]

That easily beat New Orleans wide receiver Marques Colston and Jacksonville running back Maurice Jones-Drew, who had nine apiece; San Diego tackle Marcus McNeill (6); and Saints running back Reggie Bush (3).
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Bush is only the #2 rookie Offensive player on his own team, and the #2 rookie running back from his native state. Finished a distant #5 overall.
How will ESPN spin this, or is there hope we can get an object report on
this award and who finished where ?

 

[Hervoyel]

I don't think that Gary Kubiak in his first season would have been brave/smart/stupid enough (pick one, I'm not sure which one properly fits) to let Vince Young be the player he is, go out on the field, and create the kind of situations that resulted in that win streak (or at least his part of it).

I wasn't a Vince fan but I think now that I know a little more about him and how he plays he could have done the same kind of thing here if he'd been allowed to.

It's not really important whether he would have done that here or not though. What's important is that we could have picked players capable of winning the offensive and defensive ROY awards if we'd taken advantage of the opportunity in front of our face.

 

[Khari]

uh oh.....

 

[texasguy346]

A lot of the credit goes to Chow, I think, in how he's worked with him ...

Great point. It will be interesting to see how VY progresses if Chow ends up as the head coach of the Cardinals. I recall hearing that Arizona had already contacted the Titans requesting permission to speak with him.

 

[Houston_Fanatic]

Congratulations, VY - well-deserved.

 

[ATX]

That easily beat New Orleans wide receiver Marques Colston and Jacksonville running back Maurice Jones-Drew, who had nine apiece; San Diego tackle Marcus McNeill (6); and Saints running back Reggie Bush (3).
***************************
Bush is only the #2 rookie Offensive player on his own team, and the #2 rookie running back from his native state. Finished a distant #5 overall.
How will ESPN spin this, or is there hope we can get an object report on
this award and who finished where ?

They'll say something about not enough balls to go around in New Orleans, like "of course he didn't win it because he had to share the ball with Deuce, Colston, Horn, etc. If he would have been on any other team, he would have won hands down".

 

[tulexan]

They'll say something about not enough balls to go around in New Orleans, like "of course he didn't win it because he had to share the ball with Deuce, Colston, Horn, etc. If he would have been on any other team, he would have won hands down".

How about "because of Reggie Bush's amazing decoy abilities, Colston was able to finish 2nd in the Rookie of the Year award"

 

[kastofsna]

it's simple, the titans wouldn't have won all those games without vince young. period.

but they also probably would've won that patriots game with a more comptent QB.

 

[nunusguy]

I dunno, but if ESPN was consistant they'd say that The Associated Press
collectively was stupid not once, not twice, not 3 times, but 4 times before they got it right.

 

[TheCD]

Imagine if we picked him and had both offensive and defensive ROY's.....


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-nfloffensiverookie&prov=ap&type=lgns

He certainly played well this year...but he wouldn't have won it with us. We were going to start Carr hell or high water.

 

[TexanFan881]

The only reason Vince Young won is because Coltson was out for a few games. If Colston never got hurt, he would have definately given Vince a run for his money.

 

[Double Barrel]

Congrats to VY. It is well-deserved, and he's going to be a force to be reckoned with for a long time.

 

[shinerbock_girl]

Congrats to VY. It is well-deserved, and he's going to be a force to be reckoned with for a long time.

Unfortunately, we will be the ones reckoning with him....God help us!!!!!

 

[TheOgre]

Good job VY.

Personally, I thought Maurice-Jones Drew deserved it instead though. It was a close call from my perspective.

 

[Mr. White]

He made every other player on the team better. The team did a 180 after he came in. Well-deserved.

 

[Trap_Star]

Unfortunately, we will be the ones reckoning with him....God help us!!!!!

He is...DeMeco Ryans = divine intervention...

 

[Titan "Tack" Fan]

Tennessee won 4 more games with Vince Young at QB and Houston improved by 4 wins too. Stop with the Vince nut-hugging already. Vince wasn't the reason Tennessee won all those games anymore than Carr being the reason we won four more.

It's a team game.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

good joke....

 

[DenverBorn]

I'm gonna give my opinion whether you like it or not...talk some football or get out of the forum.....all the little digs and personal attacks for the guys giving opinion ruins this place. Take your nut hugging comments to the other Texans forums....I'm so sick of that kind of talk here just because you don't like VY. I'll talk about VY all I want in the NFL forum.

Thank you. Very well said

 

[JaxonVillain]

Personally, I thought Maurice-Jones Drew deserved it instead though. It was a close call from my perspective.

I agree. Jones-Drew broke the rookie record of the most consecutive rushing touchdowns (8) in a season. He also tallied the third most all-purpose yards (2,212) in NFL history, behind only Gale Sayers and Tim Brown. I would have thought voting would have been a little closer, at least.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/community/news/casselberry/orl-jaguarsnotes0107jan01,0,1610050.story

Congrats to VY.

 

[SF49erFaithful]

What a joke.

VY has a lot of potential, but people hail him to be the sole reason why the Titans heated up. People seem to ignore other guys making plays on that team, for example, Pac Man Jones.

Right now Vince Young is a below average passer who can run and get all the credit for his team winning some games. At the moment I find him to be a poor mans Michael Vick. We'll see how much he progresses in terms on passing next season though.

Colston, Jones-Drew, and McNeil deserved it more in my opinion.

 

[jerek]

Great point. It will be interesting to see how VY progresses if Chow ends up as the head coach of the Cardinals. I recall hearing that Arizona had already contacted the Titans requesting permission to speak with him.

I figured Chow for this position a year ago when the Cards drafted Leinart.

Congrats to VY for taking these steps to prove his doubters -- myself one of them -- wrong. I'm not ready to crown him the next big thing, but I think he deserves the OROY honor.

 

[BJShan]

...the fact that his defense and special teams carried him more than twice...

I've seen this written before and I think it's hilarious. Yes... our number 32 ranked defense carried us to victories.

With the exception of the second Jags game our defense played HORRIBLE all year long. They made a few key plays in some games near the end that gave us a chance but we won games in SPITE of our defense, not because it. That Jags game was the only game all season that the defense won it for us.

Seeing as how your a Texans fan I wouldn't expect you to have seen more than two Titans games all year long so you probably have no idea how our games actually played out.

 

[LORENZOF33]

VY does it once again!

 

[Titan "Tack" Fan]

What a joke.

VY has a lot of potential, but people hail him to be the sole reason why the Titans heated up. People seem to ignore other guys making plays on that team, for example, Pac Man Jones.

Right now Vince Young is a pretty bad passer who can run and get all the credit for his team winning some games. At the moment I find him to be a poor mans Michael Vick. We'll see how much he progresses in terms on passing next season though.

Colston, Jones-Drew, and McNeil deserved it more in my opinion.

This coming from the 49ers fan who probably didn't even watch Vince play. And since why does it matter what his passing stats are? Isn't scrambling just as good? Why does it matter how you get the yards?

...Good luck with Alex Smith. Vince Young is miles ahead of him. You're just jealous.

 

[The Dream]

congrats to VY....next year he might be a MVP candidate

 

[Dr. Toro]

it's simple, the titans wouldn't have won all those games without vince young. period.

but they also probably would've won that patriots game with a more comptent QB.

I'd say that's the most accurate VY statement I've heard from you to date. He wasn't very good on Sunday. The weather really didn't help and the middle of the field was so muddy he really couldn't move out of the pocket. I would say your assessment that he's not very good when he's penned in is about right. I don't expect it to stay that way for long.

I think Young will improve as a pocket passer... accuracy wasn't an issue at Texas, but he wasn't making some of the tougher throws he's making now. With offseason work on timing, chemistry, and mechanics, more in-game comfort/awareness, and an upgrade in receiving talent, I expect him to post a completion percentage in the range of 58-62% next year. I'll be held to that. Dude's got a chip on his shoulder, he'll continue to improve as long as he remains coachable.

 

[Hookem Horns]

What a joke.

At the moment I find him to be a poor mans Michael Vick.

LOL, now THAT is a good joke. Michael Vick is a poor man's Vince Young.

 

[Wolf]

I've seen this written before and I think it's hilarious. Yes... our number 32 ranked defense carried us to victories.

With the exception of the second Jags game our defense played HORRIBLE all year long. They made a few key plays in some games near the end that gave us a chance but we won games in SPITE of our defense, not because it. That Jags game was the only game all season that the defense won it for us.

Seeing as how your a Texans fan I wouldn't expect you to have seen more than two Titans games all year long so you probably have no idea how our games actually played out.

believe me central texas probably see's more Titan games than the Texans.. and I think the Saints were on every week where I live

 

[Wolf]

Drew deserved it more IMO .. great season by him eventhough he is a jag ... CBS was calling him a little Earl Campbell. how's that comparison..

 

[MrMeToo]

Congrats to Vince.He deserved it.

 

[SF49erFaithful]

This coming from the 49ers fan who probably didn't even watch Vince play. And since why does it matter what his passing stats are? Isn't scrambling just as good? Why does it matter how you get the yards?

So since Vick ran for 1,000 yards he is as good as Tom Brady............? It doesn't matter how you get the yards, right?

...Good luck with Alex Smith. Vince Young is miles ahead of him. You're just jealous.

Ummmm, ok? Alex Smith was in his first year in our system this year just like VY with a different supporting cast than his rookie year, and he is younger that Vince. So I am not sure who is ahead of who.

 

[The Dream]

Ummmm, ok? Alex Smith was in his first year in our system this year just like VY with a different supporting cast than his rookie year, and he is younger that Vince. So I am not sure who is ahead of who.

VY > Alex Smith...and you know this maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!

 

[SF49erFaithful]

LOL, now THAT is a good joke. Michael Vick is a poor man's Vince Young.

Why? Michael Vick is currently a better passer and runner.

I am not saying Vince Young is the next Michael Vick, because I really do not know how much he improves his passing. When I made the comparison I was talking about now.

 

[mexican_texan]

We could have had both ROYs if Carr remembered Daniels in the second half of the season.

 

[The Dream]

VY does some things better than Vick....him and Vick aren't really the same type of QB's.

 

[SF49erFaithful]

VY > Alex Smith...and you know this maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!

I wasn't saying Alex Smith is better, just that making the point that he was playing in a system that was new to him also.

Time should tell what QB's come out on top of the 2005 and 2006 NFL Draft Classes. But right now it is too soon.

 

[The Dream]

We could have had both ROYs if Carr had not been signed back and we drafted Vince

I think that's what you meant to say.

 

[mexican_texan]

I think that's what you meant to say.

Nope. Daniels was a great red zone threat, but then Carr regressed and stopped throwing to the TE. We would have easily beaten the Titans if Carr hadn't regressed so much.

 

[hot pickle]

good job vince

i like that both rookies of the year were southern boys

keep doin your thing