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This loss is squarely on Kubiak!

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When we only had 2 yards to go and Kubiak called a pass I turned off the set and knew we weren't going to win. If Carr's pass against the Titans quadruple coverage was the dumbest pass ever, Kubiak's choice of pass was the worst play call ever.

HE DESERVES TO LOSE AND SHOULD BE CALLED OUT FOR SUCH A DUMB PLAYCALL!

The Bills only had one time out! Only one! They couldn't have called a timeout to win!

I hope the press takes Kubiak to the wood shed on losing the game.
 
Totally Agree! Pathetic Play Calling!

Effing Prevent Defense. Who The Eff Plays The Effing Prevent Defense In This Day????

Effing Pathetic!
 
Stupid call. Period. Only 2 yards to go with the running game working fairly well. If nothing else, you have to force Buffalo to burn their last time out. He blew that one big time.
 
i agree, this loss is on kubiak. we were gashing them with the run, why pass on 3rd and 2?? they had 1 timeout left, and was up with that conservative defense when the bills were driving? how can they only rush 3?? i wouldve been blitzing my a## off!!! the texans were too conservative today in the 2nd half as usual! we shouldve beaten the titans, shouldve beaten the bills, we should be 5-5!!
 
I didn't watch the game this week because I've been writing a paper, but it sounds like it was a good thing that I didn't see it....what exactly happened with the timeout situation?
 
the thing that lost us the game was the D-line, we are very weak at that position right now, and didnt get very good pressure


not gonna blame anything on kubiak
 
Horrible play call.....Also, we had no pressure on Losman at all the whole game....this really hurt losing to this team we should have beat....I am pissed off!
 
if your gonna pass in that situation, go deep. if not, run it, or a play fake. why run the prevent when our base D had help them scorless since the 1st quarter?
 
and cooks fumble, kubiak was just tryin to win the game, and if we woulda ran and not the 1st yall would of been mad about that, just yall need to think about your sayin befor you post it
 
What do you mean it was a stupid play call? Everyone in the world was expecting the run, and to try to trick and pass, it was a good try. If it would have worked, you wouldnt be saying crap. God i hate people that second guess a play call AFTER the fact. Carr had been doing good all day and he threw A bad pass.
 
Not only does our team have 2 faces but now the coach does too.

If your boys can get you a 4 and 1 when you need it WTH would you throw on 3 and 2 when you want them to burn the time out?

If they miss and only get the yard you can go for the 4 and 1 just like last week.

:crying:
 
Dime said:
What do you mean it was a stupid play call? Everyone in the world was expecting the run, and to try to trick and pass, it was a good try. If it would have worked, you wouldnt be saying crap. God i hate people that second guess a play call AFTER the fact. Carr had been doing good all day and he threw A bad pass.
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exactly Dime.. I remember when we went for it against the Jags, everyone was hooting and hollering about what a gutsy call Kubiak made.
 
Dime said:
What do you mean it was a stupid play call? Everyone in the world was expecting the run, and to try to trick and pass, it was a good try. If it would have worked, you wouldnt be saying crap. God i hate people that second guess a play call AFTER the fact. Carr had been doing good all day and he threw A bad pass.
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Obviously everyone didn't expect run because Nate Clements was all over that pass i mean it was pretty obvious we weren't even stacked up in a run play
 
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just like last week's win was on him. he's growing with the team and is WAY better than that capers guy. give him time to learn his lessons like everyone else, he's a rookie too.
 
I agree, this is def on kubiak that 3rd and 2 call... even if we didnt make it, they have to take a time out which changes there drive. definitely on kubiak not only on this play but the whole second half was just awful
 
I have to agree finally...Carr blew the pass too...Upsetting no doubt.

But even more upsetting was that f'n prevent defense call on the 15 yrd line to give up the winning TD.
 
Players made plenty of mistakes today but the coach made a critical mistake with less than 2 minutes to go! So what if they were expecting a run play?!? Time was on our side then and at least another half minute would have run off the clock. :brickwall
 
This was a stupid game. I was so happy when the Bills had what, 30 seconds left in the game and no more timeouts. I thought we had it. Pathetic game today.
 
kenneth24 said:
Players made plenty of mistakes today but the coach made a critical mistake with less than 2 minutes to go! So what if they were expecting a run play?!? Time was on our side then and at least another half minute would have run off the clock. :brickwall
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Time was not on our side... wth.... if time was on our side.. we could have run out the clock without getting a first down. Trick play tried.. bad pass by carr, or aj did post quick enough.. either way.. it didnt work.
 
The third and 2 call was a dumb call. Ya run it and either get the first or at the worst burn 25 seconds off the clock. 25 seconds that the Bills can't have to operate with or they then burn their last timeout and that makes it much harder for them to get down field after the punt. Just a bad call period.
 
Goldeagle said:
Really just joking around.
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Sorry.. couldnt tell.. its just comments like these are what get the fire threads started and I am sooo sick of those from last year, its unreal. We gave Capers 4 year, I think we need to give 2 years before we start questioning him about most of this. He has to learn too.
 
Dime said:
Time was not on our side... wth.... if time was on our side.. we could have run out the clock without getting a first down. Trick play tried.. bad pass by carr, or aj did post quick enough.. either way.. it didnt work.
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Either another 35 seconds would have run off before the punt or they would have had to use the timeout which they used later. They scored with 9 seconds to go.

We "outsmarted" ourselves! Last week we needed one yard and we smashed it in there and this week with 3 and 2 and less than 2 minutes on the clock and we needed the clock to keep running we try a "trick play" when smashmouth football has been working.

Worst case scenario of running the ball and not getting the first down is less than a minute and half to go or them burning their last timeout.
 
sleepwalker said:
I have to agree finally...Carr blew the pass
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It was not a good pass by David, but for the most part he had a good game,
maybe very good.
But the problem with the 3 and 2 call was Carr's execution, not the call. It
was a call to win the game which is odd because for much of the 2nd half
Kubiak had gone very conservative, sat on a very slim lead, and his play calling relected the mentality of one playing not to lose.
Tough loss, but a lot better than being down by 3 or 4 touchdowns in the 4th quarter with no chance.
 
Personally.. this is EXACLY what I was talking about last week when everyone was yelling about Kub going into the half with 2 minutes left (ran out the clock). Carr does not play well, from what I have seen, when he is pressured and trying to force a play. He 'had' to or was 'forced' to make a play, which lead to a bad pass by Carr. He had completed 22 in a row.. but when forced, he makes worst and more risky decisions. This is Carr Akelize (how ever you spell it ) heel.
 
SLO Texan said:
Word!! How about when he called the run play on 3rd abd 15 on the 40? What the hell was that? You need a first down Kubes not a 5yd loss(gado). I'm still shell shocked!
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Sigh.. What .. do people here ever watch football? You run if you need to get in a better punting/field goal sitiuation, then force a bad play. Payton can make those calls/throws. Carr is being rebuilt.. he cant be counted on to make those calls/throws right now..
 
Dime said:
Nope... our play calling was decent.. not great.. your comment was not. I hope you are just talking with emotion other then anything else.
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I disagree about the play calling being decent. Our offense did not score a single point in the 2nd half, as we 'played not to lose.' That drive in the 2nd half where we were taken out of field goal range by a penalty and 'dink and dunk' play calling--especially running up the 'gut' on 3rd down--sums up Kubiak's thinking (you don't score-we won't score) for this game, IMO.
 
I'm starting to think a lot of you guys didn't watch a lot of Denver games when Kubes was there.

He's calling the same plays here as he was there. The Broncos were just good enough to execute them.
 
I think the big bungle was actually the long incomplete pass to AJ that stopped the clock around the 4:00 mark. Running the ball instead of passing would have eaten up at least 20-25 more seconds - which might have made the difference.
 
PocketAces said:
Play calling this game in the second half was so passive it made me sick. We were usually so agressive in the 4th! What a bad game!
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I could see this devolping with the last 3-4 drives,if every time we are ahead we are going to be this conservative, I think we should play from behind.
 
I agree the call was a bad one, but the loss can't be placed completely on Kubiak.

Did you guys see Faggins get torched for loooooong touchdown passes by Lee Evans?

Did you see Cook fumble the ball deep in the Bills territory?

This loss convinced me even more that we need to use our first round pick on a cornerback or free safefy, if the value is justified when the Texans are on the clock.
 
Battle Red Bull said:
I'm starting to think a lot of you guys didn't watch a lot of Denver games when Kubes was there.

He's calling the same plays here as he was there. The Broncos were just good enough to execute them.
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with the size of playbooks you can go through multiple games without calling the same play (not that you would want to, but you could). Also, the situation is just as important as the call. A missed slant on 1st and 10 in the 3rd quarter is not a big deal. A missed slant that stops the clock and gives the Bills that ball with a minute left and 1 time out is.
 
NATHANHALE said:
I disagree about the play calling being decent. Our offense did not score a single point in the 2nd half, as we 'played not to lose.' That drive in the 2nd half where we were taken out of field goal range by a penalty and 'dink and dunk' play calling--especially running up the 'gut' on 3rd down--sums up Kubiak's thinking (you don't score-we won't score) for this game, IMO.
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we scored in the 3rd quarter.
 
TexaninDenver said:
I think the big bungle was actually the long incomplete pass to AJ that stopped the clock around the 4:00 mark. Running the ball instead of passing would have eaten up at least 20-25 more seconds - which might have made the difference.
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it is a no win situateion when a big fat "L" is at the end of the game.

we could nitpick certain plays that could have made the difference.

Bottom line: right before half time, we punch that in instead of turning it over, we win the game.
 
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