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David's Busted Carr

David's Busted Carr

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I just don't get it. We have been AWFUL since our induction into the league and all our fan base does is make excuses. It makes no sense. Maybe this is why our team is a laughing stock, b/c the fans tolerate it.

Week after week it's pathetic to see our team get POUNDED and written off by all the other NFL franchises. "Oh it's just the Texans, that's an easy win".

And then to add insult to injury every week another move blows up in our face.

Todd Wade, Robaire Smith, Bennie Joppru, Jabar Gaffney, John Wells, Tony Hollings, Phillip Buchanon all RELEASED or LET GO.

These were ALL either high draft picks or huge free agents deals that we got NOTHING for.

Then to this day the majority of people on this board REFUSE to admit that passing on Reggie Bush was the biggest mistake this franchise has ever made, and one of the stupidest decisions in NFL history.

Forget stats and compaing Reggie and Mario, look at what really counts... THE RESULTS!

The Texans are 1-4, just as bad or worse than last year. And our defense (that Mario was supposed to ANCHOR) is last in the NFL.

The Saints are a LEGIT 5-1 (beating a team that manhandled us) and their offense is one of the best in the league.

How do you defend that? Where are your excuses? I'm just sick of it.

And go ahead, bash me, tell me how stupid I am, and make more excuses for them.... PROVE my POINT!
 
Well this has to be the king of useless threads--"disagree with me and prove I'm right." Nice self-definitional delusion.
 
I just don't get it. We have been AWFUL since our induction into the league and all our fan base does is make excuses. It makes no sense. Maybe this is why our team is a laughing stock, b/c the fans tolerate it.
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I take from this you'll be suiting up Sunday? Can I request a few things?
I'd like to see alot of pressure from you on the opposing QB, and then when you're on offense, can you find the right hole and get us some yards? Please be sure to have some field vision as quarterback, because I'm sure someone else is open besides AJ, and finally, when standing on the sideline as the coach, holler alot and look emotional. This is a sure sign of a coach with a clue :) I ask of you all these things as a "tolerant fan" :)
 
Your Cowboy love is bigger than that sock in your pants..do us all a favor and go home troll.
 
David's Busted Carr said:
I just don't get it. We have been AWFUL since our induction into the league and all our fan base does is make excuses. It makes no sense. Maybe this is why our team is a laughing stock, b/c the fans tolerate it.
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How do we tolerate it exactly? What do you propose we do? Not go to the games? Boo? Tell the team to take a hike? We tried that once already. See what it got us.

David's Busted Carr said:
Todd Wade, Robaire Smith, Bennie Joppru, Jabar Gaffney, John Wells, Tony Hollings, Phillip Buchanon all RELEASED or LET GO.
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Those are fine reasons why Cass and Co. are no longer here. These are past mistakes that are getting corrected.

Next.


David's Busted Carr said:
Then to this day the majority of people on this board REFUSE to admit that passing on Reggie Bush was the biggest mistake this franchise has ever made, and one of the stupidest decisions in NFL history.
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There is nothing to admit to. Williams was still the right choice. McCallister is still the starting running back, out preforming Bush, and having one hell of a season like he normally does. Bush isn't the key to the Saints. Brees and Colston along with Horn are the reasons they are winning. Oh not to mention they have a D that can hold onto leads.

Want to know what happens if you are all offense and no D? See Arizona Cardinals.


David's Busted Carr said:
The Texans are 1-4, just as bad or worse than last year. And our defense (that Mario was supposed to ANCHOR) is last in the NFL.
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Its all Mario's fault. If only he could play safety.....and OLB......and safety......he already plays tackle too.
David's Busted Carr said:
The Saints are a LEGIT 5-1 (beating a team that manhandled us) and their offense is one of the best in the league.
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Some say its VY who created drops of sunshine, but really I think it was Bush.
David's Busted Carr said:
How do you defend that? Where are your excuses? I'm just sick of it.
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I just listed them.

My Mom says you should get some rest when you are sick.

David's Busted Carr said:
And go ahead, bash me, tell me how stupid I am, and make more excuses for them.... PROVE my POINT!
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OK.

Have a bright and sunshiny day.
 
I feel your pain and agree that the Texans are an embarassing outfit currently with little hope of a swift turnaround.

However, this season we were somewhat doomed to failure. The defense is woefully untalented and the offense, though greatly improved, is still prone to key mistakes/penalties and turnovers. Drafting Mario was destined to get you less immediate impact and with our revolving door policy on veteran players we were destined to suck on defense...yet again.

As to your comment about everyone being brainwashed, I don't know if its that bad. Some people just support their team and rarely criticize even in really bad times (like now). Just wait a few more years of this brand and quality of football and I think we may see a few more unhappy campers around here and far less in Reliant's seats. I myself am on the fence this year because Kubiak has done pretty well with the Carr experiment and the schedule has been pretty rough. It's still early but the early returns are pretty disappointing.

We need a little luck in this next draft and hope that some of our youngsters (t.johnston, mario, demeco, dunta, cc, earl) can gel over time and turn us into a quality defense. As bad as things may seem, IT CAN BE DONE, only 4 years ago the Bears were embarassing and had little talent on either side of the ball. They made some good draft picks and some good resignings/FA moves and are now the talk of the NFL. I hope we try and emulate the Bears recent moves by going for defense first and then hoping the offense can do enough to start winning consistently, as I think its the way to go and less of a crapshoot.

Try and stay positive man, it could be a really long season...

doug from the woodlands
 
The saints O LINE is 20 times better than ours. Thats just one reason. There are many more but i will let others state the rest. I love my team i will forever stay optimistic no matter how bad we are and that does not mean i am brainwashed because i know how horrible we are lol.


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David's Busted Carr said:
I just don't get it. We have been AWFUL since our induction into the league and all our fan base does is make excuses. It makes no sense. Maybe this is why our team is a laughing stock, b/c the fans tolerate it.

Week after week it's pathetic to see our team get POUNDED and written off by all the other NFL franchises. "Oh it's just the Texans, that's an easy win".

And then to add insult to injury every week another move blows up in our face.

Todd Wade, Robaire Smith, Bennie Joppru, Jabar Gaffney, John Wells, Tony Hollings, Phillip Buchanon all RELEASED or LET GO.

These were ALL either high draft picks or huge free agents deals that we got NOTHING for.

Then to this day the majority of people on this board REFUSE to admit that passing on Reggie Bush was the biggest mistake this franchise has ever made, and one of the stupidest decisions in NFL history.

Forget stats and compaing Reggie and Mario, look at what really counts... THE RESULTS!

The Texans are 1-4, just as bad or worse than last year. And our defense (that Mario was supposed to ANCHOR) is last in the NFL.

The Saints are a LEGIT 5-1 (beating a team that manhandled us) and their offense is one of the best in the league.

How do you defend that? Where are your excuses? I'm just sick of it.

And go ahead, bash me, tell me how stupid I am, and make more excuses for them.... PROVE my POINT!
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OK. Let me prove your point. Reggie Bush has been a good wide receiver and returner. Much better than I expected. As a running back, not so much. RB is not the reason the Saints are 5-1. The Saints are 5-1 because they've got a very good defense and because of Brees, McAllister, Colston, and Horn. RB is a very, very small part of that. I still think they made a mistake in picking him 2nd and I'm glad we didn't take him first. He would have been a Kijana Carter like bust.

Now... are the Texans a laughingstock? Yes, unfortunately they are. Are we happy about it? No. Are we "tolerating" it? Huh? How do you "not" tolerate it? We're fans. We're not the front office or the coaching staff. Do you stop being a fan because they suck and make bad moves? Are you saying that none of us should be cheering for our team? Are you brain damaged? It's not like we can make them make good moves or go back in time and stop them from making bad ones. We're reaping the rewards of years of incompetence. But they're still our team come hell and high water.

PBuch? No one's going to trade us anything for him. Joppru and all the others? Why should anyone trade us anything for those guys? They KNOW we're going to cut them and all they have to do is wait. How successful have those guys been since we let them go?

Try to make some sense before you post a BS message like this.
 
TEXANRED said:
There is nothing to admit to. Williams was still the right choice. McCallister is still the starting running back, out preforming Bush, and having one hell of a season like he normally does. Bush isn't the key to the Saints. Brees and Colston along with Horn are the reasons they are winning. Oh not to mention they have a D that can hold onto leads.

Want to know what happens if you are all offense and no D? See Arizona Cardinals.
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Did you watch the Monday Night game?

The Bears offense could only get a field goal, so the Arizona D did it's job!

The Arizona D forced six turnovers, held the Bears to 34 yards rushing and 134 yards passing. Meanwhile, the Arizona offense gave up two defensive touchdowns and had great field position several times because of the Arizona defense and only got field goals.

The blame is on the offense (but they were playing the Bears D, give them a break) and special teams because of the punt return for TD.

You got this one totally backwards!
 
"offense, though greatly improved..."

"These are past mistakes that are getting corrected."

Looking at the results of our first 5 games, how can the above be said? First, how is the offense greatly improved? Second, which past mistakes are getting corrected? I gotta hear the answers to these .....
 
Yeah, you can't stop being a fan because the team sucks. If you are not happy with product you vote with your feet and your wallet. McNair's investment is free falling in value as we speak and the more no-shows he gets the less money he makes and the less he can charge for ads, sponsorships, endorsements, etc. McNair is not a moron, he knows that the buzz is dying and the franchise is in pretty bad shape. Expect short leashes for this regime.

Speaking of short leashes, we need to put our whole defensive staff on one right now....the lack of defense is a joke.
 
tsip said:
"offense, though greatly improved..."

Looking at the results of our first 5 games, how can the above be said? First, how is the offense greatly improved? Second, which past mistakes are getting corrected? I gotta hear the answers to these .....
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The offense especially Carr has greatly improved from last years embarassing form. Regretfully, it didnt take much to improve from last year. The passing game is far superior this year and we have far less rushing talent compared to last year. We would have addressed our RB needs at the draft if there would have been any good RBs in the draft..... :)

I stand by my opinion that our offense is better this year though I am not satisfied or pleased with the outfit as a whole.

Doug ftw
 
David's Busted Carr said:
I just don't get it. We have been AWFUL since our induction into the league and all our fan base does is make excuses. It makes no sense. Maybe this is why our team is a laughing stock, b/c the fans tolerate it.
Then to this day the majority of people on this board REFUSE to admit that passing on Reggie Bush was the biggest mistake this franchise has ever made, and one of the stupidest decisions in NFL history.
Forget stats and compaing Reggie and Mario, look at what really counts... THE RESULTS!
The Texans are 1-4, just as bad or worse than last year. And our defense is last in the NFL.
The Saints are a LEGIT 5-1.
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What would you have us do? Burn down the stadium?
I don't know what you mean by Texan fans tolerating being bad. I've seen many posts on this site complaining about the drafting and free agents. I've heard complainng on the radio shows. We complained so much, they fired Casserly and Capers and his inept staff. I think this was because of fan backlash.
Passing on Reggie Bush was not nearly the biggest mistake this franchise has made. That would be either the Babin deal or the Buchanon deal.
The Saints are a legit 5-1 this year. You are right. But Bush has little to do with it. Deuce is running wild, and Bush is not. They have the same O-line.
To say Bush is better than Mario purely based on the team's record is laughable. The Texan's D blows because of weak LB's, very weak DB's, and overall weak D-Line play. This is because of horrible drafting by the guys we fired! They are gone. We did not tolerate it.
Now there will be some growing pains because Kubiak is now getting rid of the dead wood Casserly gave us. That's called "not tolerating it".
But, even though the team is bad, I'm still going to tailgate and enjoy the games. We'll upset some people this year, you'll see. And, we can't get worse! Can we?
 
Jerry Jones said:
the guy is right, you are the laughingstocks of nfl..."and with the first pick in the 2007 nfl draft, The Houston Junior High Texans select....
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The Texans have the same chance as Dallas of going to the Super Bowl this year. ZERO.
Philly, New Orleans, Seattle, Chicago, Carolina are clearly better than the Cowboys.
You keep riding them 5 Super Bowls, you won't see another soon.
 
hollywood_texan said:
Did you watch the Monday Night game?

The Bears offense could only get a field goal, so the Arizona D did it's job!

The Arizona D forced six turnovers, held the Bears to 34 yards rushing and 134 yards passing. Meanwhile, the Arizona offense gave up two defensive touchdowns and had great field position several times because of the Arizona defense and only got field goals.

The blame is on the offense (but they were playing the Bears D, give them a break) and special teams because of the punt return for TD.

You got this one totally backwards!
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I am super ecstatic that is all you go from that.

Really, you should see the joy on my face.
 
Although I have a tendency to get caught up in the hype from time to time I like to think I'm pretty level headed about this team the majority of the time. I do feel though that without the homers, optimists, etc. this board wouldn't be worth a flip and I myself would probably only check in maybe once a week to get some insight on particular moves, draft picks, etc. I believe it was Luv Ya Blue that mentioned in a previous thread a while back that it takes every kind of fan for this team to make this board what it is and I completely agree with that. I like the way this board is and the types of fans it's comprised of.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
We need a little luck in this next draft and hope that some of our youngsters (t.johnston, mario, demeco, dunta, cc, earl) can gel over time and turn us into a quality defense.
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YEAH! Tell the Steelers to stop hogging all the luck during the draft!!! They always seem to not share the luck!

Jerks.

As much as this is a nit picky thing to point out, I think we just need time for our Gm to put his stamp on the team. Kubiak was sharing a brain with Casserly last year, and Smith had no say whatsoever, so he hasn't had the time to evaluate talent for this team/scheme. Kubiak has, but we are all not 100% sure what impact asserly... oops, typo, Casserly.... had.
 
I think most Houston fans remember what it was like without a team.

I wouldn't call it brainwashed; people make conscious decisions to post here, to buy tickets, to buy merchandise.

It's called loyalty.

I had season tickets to the Cowboys when they went 1-15 and went to every single game and stayed for every single snap. And eventually I had the same seats to teams that won championships.

It's called being there when they're down and being there when they're good.

These Texans will come around. It's been slow for sure but they'll get there one day!
 
WWJD said:
I think most Houston fans remember what it was like without a team.

I wouldn't call it brainwashed; people make conscious decisions to post here, to buy tickets, to buy merchandise.

It's called loyalty.

I had season tickets to the Cowboys when they went 1-15 and went to every single game and stayed for every single snap. And eventually I had the same seats to teams that won championships.

It's called being there when they're down and being there when they're good.

These Texans will come around. It's been slow for sure but they'll get there one day!
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This is true... as a California native, I truly have no affinity to Houston or Texans for that matter. But upon losing out to Houston in the last expansion, I loved football, but hated the Commitment to Mediocrity that I am always exposed to in L.A.

I started fresh with the Texans and really came to appreciate what it took to build a franchise, learn a little about a new community, visit a new community and truly enjoy that community. I'd travel to Houston anytime to see a game that I could because of the camaraderie of the community and its fans.

It is good to know that there are others here that feel the pain you do when the Texans lose, very therapuetic, but also be able to objectively discuss what it would take to make the team better and then feel gratified when we do win.

Such is life, when you are down, you got to push through to the other side to make it better. Anyone can root for the winner, but then I think you miss out on the camaraderie and reward of loyalty.

Go Detroit Tigers! Oh wait, nevermind. :sarcasm:
 
David's Busted Carr said:
How do you defend that? Where are your excuses? I'm just sick of it.

And go ahead, bash me, tell me how stupid I am, and make more excuses for them.... PROVE my POINT!
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Feel better now? Your :crying: will do about as much good as our "excuses".

This board should care that you are "sick of it"?

We all come here to discuss our chosen team. :logo:

I think we all feel as bad about the losses as you do. We could choose :crying: but we choose to look for any positives we can find.

Our therapy is to discuss what went wrong and who/what we need to fix it.

You have chosen to turn a blind eye to one of the biggest improvements on the team. I personally am a little sick of that, but that doesn't stop it now, does it?

I don't think the Texans are holding anyone captive. We can all cheer or not. Make your choice, just don't try to make mine for me.

:coffee:
 
Second Honeymoon said:
The offense especially Carr has greatly improved from last years embarassing form. Regretfully, it didnt take much to improve from last year. The passing game is far superior this year and we have far less rushing talent compared to last year. We would have addressed our RB needs at the draft if there would have been any good RBs in the draft..... :)

I stand by my opinion that our offense is better this year though I am not satisfied or pleased with the outfit as a whole.

Doug ftw
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We've gained 26 more yds this year and have scored 18 more pts, so-yes-we're better stat wise...but I think 'greatly improved' is kinda stretching it...just a little bit
 
we can't root for the home team because they aren't winning? i wasn't aware of that. plus the texans are positively successful compared to my alma mater...rice :crying:
 
Battle Red Flash said:
The Texans have the same chance as Dallas of going to the Super Bowl this year. ZERO.
Philly, New Orleans, Seattle, Chicago, Carolina are clearly better than the Cowboys.
You keep riding them 5 Super Bowls, you won't see another soon.
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Don't forget the Giants which will be proven on Monday night.
 
What I expect people to do is not sit there and make excuses on this damn board for this team.

You people are right, the Texans are what they are and no amount of complaining will change it, BUT at least point out the facts, tell things how they are, and quit sugarcoating everything to make it seem OK.

That is what IRRITATES the heck out of me!
 
Superstar said:
What is the point if the front office does not even listen to the fans. All what starts is you don't agree with me, I don't agree with you, and blah blah blah.
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Capers is gone. Casserly is gone. Most of the players from last year are gone.

Why do you feel the front office isn't listening?

Was there something or someone you wanted here that isn't here?

Someone still here that you wanted gone?

Let me guess, you didn't get what you wanted so that means nobody is listening.

And yes, there are many posters here who don't agree with each other.

So what does that prove?

:coffee:
 
David's Busted Carr said:
What I expect people to do is not sit there and make excuses on this damn board for this team.

You people are right, the Texans are what they are and no amount of complaining will change it, BUT at least point out the facts, tell things how they are, and quit sugarcoating everything to make it seem OK.

That is what IRRITATES the heck out of me!
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You are correct! The Texans do suck, but if we had Reggie Bush we would still suck!
 
my frustration.

Boselli never came back from injury, Ryan Young was supposed to be an up and comer would have solidified this line for years... NOPE...5 years and we are still looking

Spencer..injured.. Winston still learning. Wade overpaid (released)and we move a RG to RT (weigart)...1st year we got a true Center.. and some say Flannigan is on the downside (who knows)


On the OL .. don't get me started.....

Defensively..basically traded 2 draft picks and Aaron Glenn for P-buch... (being Glenn didn't want to be #3)

Drafting.. we went boom or bust on that.. going on potential and lost that gamble repeatively.

With the new regime.. Kukiak deserves more time, I mean what did y'all expect? new scheme offensively

and defensively? whole new scheme,terminology and it would take time to get the guys to go from 3-4 to 4-3

who knew DD wouldn't play this season.. I thought DD was a solid NFL player, but after seeing our backs this season.. boy do I miss him.. heck I miss Wells also.

my frustration is almost everythread turns into a VY versus Carr and/or a RB versus MW .. you know what.. we all basically knew before the draft that neither one was coming. many threads talked about the money given to Carr to extend his contract and also the extension of DD would not bring those two here draft day..

ok done ranting.

What the Texans have done right.. Got new coaches/GM ... many moves will make us shake our heads right now (including me)but Kubiak said at the begining, he is bringing guys in that will fit his system.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
The offense especially Carr has greatly improved from last years embarassing form. Regretfully, it didnt take much to improve from last year. The passing game is far superior this year and we have far less rushing talent compared to last year. We would have addressed our RB needs at the draft if there would have been any good RBs in the draft..... :)

I stand by my opinion that our offense is better this year though I am not satisfied or pleased with the outfit as a whole.

Doug ftw
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Just think if Capers had helped Carr and let him throw like he is now to AJ over the last couple yea, when we at least had a 'little" bit of defense to go along with it,and we had a running game too. We would have won a lot more games.
 
David's Busted Carr said:
What I expect people to do is not sit there and make excuses on this damn board for this team.

You people are right, the Texans are what they are and no amount of complaining will change it, BUT at least point out the facts, tell things how they are, and quit sugarcoating everything to make it seem OK.

That is what IRRITATES the heck out of me!
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Then go somewhere else where everyone is negative. You HAVE a choice.
 
It's not a matter of brainwashing. I think they are just being loyal. With all the negative everyone says about the team someone's got to stick up for them and believe in them. IMHO
 
It is true our team sucks for now. However I went ahead and purchased season tickets 2 weeks ago. Why? Because this is the team I chose to back and will stick with them thru thick and thin. Now for what I guess you are asking, I am not brainwashed, I see the bad and here it every week from the local Cowgirl fans, so why not look at the few bright spots and look for that foundation and leadership we so desperatley need. Mario Williams, has been slow to come around however I have seen constant improvement from game to game(OK maybe not your #1 pick), he was our teams and I see dividends coming. Demeco Ryans, probably the best Def. Rookie up to this point in the NFL, ang getting better every week, N.D. Kalu seems to have been a good P/U. Carr seems better than last year, AJ is AJ, Moulds is getting what is thrown at him, Daniels looks like a promising TE. As for the rest(the bad) get your local chronicle and read the McLain or Justice articles,they tell you about it every day.
 
It IS called being loyal. And if you feel the need to come to the TEXANS MESSAGEBOARD and insult those of us who chose to support our team through thick and thin, then perhaps you should consider some new hobbies and/or internet sites to visit.

I mean, what kind of fans would we be if all we did is complain and say how terrible the Texans are?

Sure, we have made some horrible decisions/trades...(see P-buch)...but what good does it do ANYONE if we merely focus on the negative.

Understand...the HOUSTON TEXANS are a sports team. Sports are meant to entertain. If we wanna focus on ONLY negative things, we can hang around people like you. But if we want to be A FAN...then we will be HONEST about our mistakes...but NOT merely focus on them. How entertaining is that?!?!?

You live, learn....and work harder to improve.

Are you one of those I D I O T S that sit in the back seat and complain the whole trip...but you're the only one that doesn't chip in for gas, meals or beer?

Leave the REAL FANS alone. And when we're 10 - 6 or 12 - 4 in 2 or 3 seasons, just remember...we're all dilusional and we don't deserve your company.....so go elsewhere.

Now...don't you have some HALO 2 tournament or something to go do?

Shoo fly.
 
Here's the true question: whats the point of being over negative and acting like a depressed teen? Nothing good comes from it rather than personal satisfaction of hating on your favorite team which to me shows nothing more than having zero faith. As long as I have reason to be optimistic, I will be!!
 
Brainwashed???????

By whom? Most of the media trashes everything that the Texans do. Not that they usually give reasons for the trashing--most of the discussion of the Texans is of the Don Rickles variety--high on insults, low on actual analysis.

Here's an "excuse" you would hate to hear, or maybe just some reality. The Texans have played the 4th hardest schedule in the league, and it ain't getting much easier this week. See chart at bottom of link. (New Orleans, in case you care, has played the 22nd hardest schedule).

If you look at just position by position matchups against each team the Texans have played, the they should be 0-5. (Despite the Dolphins' problems, their defense is ranked highly).

In a sixteen game schedule, strength of schedule matters in figuring out who does well. Seems obvious, but in case you don't believe me, check out this link. The Texans are in the AFC South, so they are going to have to just deal with it.

Am I suggesting that the Texans are an awesome team? No. They have lost 4 games, and lost most of those in disappointing fashion. In most games the Texans will play, the other team will have better players at most of the positions. It just so happens that the team is learning a bunch of new stuff at a time it is facing some good teams.

The Texans have played like a team that doesn't have all the players it needs and like they are learning a new system against good competition. They have moments of competency and moments of boneheadedness. I am guessing the reason why the Texans first offensive drives have tended to be the best ones is that the team feels comfortable with the scripted plays and can just play and not think.

There are some good things the Texans have done and some bad things. You make enough decisions, you will make some good and bad ones. Some decisions you can judge quickly, but most you can't.

If you are already in a hole, it is easier for your decisions to not work for you. (For example, there are few players good enough to succeed no matter what situation they are put in. Rookies tend to play better when they are surrounded by an already successful situation.)

So, if I don't fly off the handle after every loss, I don't see how it is evidence of brainwashing. It is certainly not a sign of acceptance, but rather embracing reality. It is hard to find reality in sports, especially in an age of hype, but at least me personally, I search for it every day. Because it is interesting. As a fan, I find it helpful not to get too high or too low--players do best by doing the same thing.

And why do I love this team that is often disappointing? That is like asking a parent why they love their children.
 
David's Busted Carr said:
What I expect people to do is not sit there and make excuses on this damn board for this team.

You people are right, the Texans are what they are and no amount of complaining will change it, BUT at least point out the facts, tell things how they are, and quit sugarcoating everything to make it seem OK.

That is what IRRITATES the heck out of me!
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Ooooo... kay.

I'm still not following you, though. If you look at the the polls done on this board before the season, most of the people are expecting 4-6 wins and most people expected us to lose most of the games we've lost so far. Going in to the season, everyone knew that the first part of our season was going to be brutal and it has been. Personally, I've stuck by 5-11 since the pre-season.

I think most of us thought we'd be getting better defensive line play and that we'd have a better running attack. I don't think very many people expected Carr to play as well as he has so far.

So... what "excuses" are you talking about? Different people on this board like different players and different people think different moves were good or bad. We all have our opinions and everyone's can be judged by how closely they resembles mine but... how is that an "excuse"? The only excuse for how badly our team has played is that our team sucks; everything else is just smoke and mirrors. It's going to take time for our team to not suck anymore. That's just the way it is. We're going to have a chance to get a really good player in next year's draft. All you can do is grab your beverage of choice and some good snacks, find yourself a good, comfy place to watch the game, and yell your lungs out.

:wherewill

:texan:
 
David's Busted Carr said:
What I expect people to do is not sit there and make excuses on this damn board for this team.

You people are right, the Texans are what they are and no amount of complaining will change it, BUT at least point out the facts, tell things how they are, and quit sugarcoating everything to make it seem OK.

That is what IRRITATES the heck out of me!
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So basically your position is people aren't complaining enough when only 90% of them are complaining.

Unreal. Hopefully you continue to be IRRITATED.
 
thunderkyss said:
What would be a good reason to stop supporting a team??
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When their donkey vulgarian owner clumsily demands a new stadium after the unpopular renovations to the old stadium haven't been paid off, and then moves the team away to a dinky market.

Like an ex you kick to the curb because they've been unfaithful with you, and have left you for a toothless bumpkin.

YRMV
 
Texans_Chick said:
When their donkey vulgarian owner clumsily demands a new stadium after the unpopular renovations to the old stadium haven't been paid off, and then moves the team away to a dinky market.

Like an ex you kick to the curb because they've been unfaithful with you, and have left you for a toothless bumpkin.

YRMV
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Uh...... sounds like I hit a nerve..

whoops.
 
.....From Wikipedia
1. Brainwashing
The application of coercive techniques to change the beliefs or behavior of one or more people, usually for political or religious purposes.

2. Loyalty
Faithfulness or a devotion to a person or cause.
:gotexans1

There is a big difference between the two. I would have to say number 2 hands down! 100%.
"Don't Mess with TEXANS!"::hunter: :crutch:
 
I think most would agree the direction we were moving in under Capers took a wrong turn.
This year, half the starters gone, new coach, new system... I don't think it's totally unfair to say we are in the first year of a new franchise, for the second time.
Add to that - injuries.
Call it growing pains or whatever you want but I don't see us winning too many games this year, especially with our schedule.

As I see it, we have two choices:
Stick with the Texans through the thin while we get to the thick. Think of all the "remember whens" we will be able to tell.
OR
If you are too impatient and are only gratified with instant success, well,
:icon of finger pointing north toward Chicago:. (Hey, I didn't say which finger!!)

:wherewill
 
Brainwashed maybe maybe not but absolutely aggrivating...Yes they are! I wrote this earlier on a different post... I'm pretty disgusted about it. So here is my acceptance...

[/QUOTE]
Don't you love these "lose all the games so we can pick someone next year crowd?" What a crock! We had the number one pick THIS year and we blew it!! understand! we blew it... and as a reminder... getting the first pick is an embarrassment and absolute shame... that means we were LAST PLACE... again an embarassment!!! first, second, even the third year acceptable? maybe, but we are no longer an expansion team we are just a crappy team... WITH NO RUNNING GAME ( is my anger evidence of acceptance? Hell NO! I'm mad!)

I am Not used to losing and will never accept this next year crap... its been 5 years folks and all I hear is next year what a waste of time ...We had the first pick This year and we did nothing with it. so go figure!

Losers accept losing...
Winners NEVER accept losers or losing.

so far all I see is quiters and losers waiting for next year... [/QUOTE]

I'm with you bro I feel like hell after everygame and can't believe the acceptance. But, with that said: I do LOVE my Texans! And because I love them I will damn near cry every sunday... and be steaming mad on Monday...Unless they win...

I am The Mighty Texan and one day...
 
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