Texansballer74
The Marine
Texans Sign Robert Woods
"Robert Woods is signing a 2-year, $15.25M deal with the Texans, per @rapsheet https://t.co/1PD8mZERuP" via B/R Gridiron on Twitter
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honestly, this is the type of signing I did NOT want to see, particularly early in the free agent process. Okay,
Woods makes the WR group better, I guess. I want to see more players with tangible skills over intangibles.
Woods makes the WR group better, I guess. I want to see more players with tangible skills over intangibles.
texanhead08
All Pro
This might be the signing to have a vet in the room since its a given Cooks is getting moved.
I’m more surprised with the timing, like you said.
this is the kind of cap strapped signings the Texans usually do, later in FA. Why now? They didn’t want to miss out on him.
That’s odd.
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
Don't like this personally
frethack
Rookie
Mangler
Toro de España
He was probably released, therefore, he’s free to sign when/where ever he wants.
Mangler
Toro de España
The Texans and Cooks have obviously came to an agreement! Maybe we get a 2nd or 3rd round pick in return?
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
Eh. Meh. Whatever I guess. Dude did not look good. Although Tennessee sucks.
badboy
Hall of Fame
His decline had nothing to do with age or skills.
Toro Bravo
Rookie
I like this acquisition. it costs us nothing but money and is a very good veteran replacement for Cooks (Easterbylover).
It looks like Mechie will be able to come back.
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The Texans just need a speedster, which they should be able to get in the second round; either Hyatt or Flowers.
Or maybe later with guys like Dell or Scott.
The receiver corp should be at least average.
Well, at least I think it could be.
One of the guys may even step up and surprise us.
The potential is there.
Whether or not the QB can deliver is more of a concern to me.
What with the Panthers trading up to the number one spot; Young will probably be gone by the time the Texans get a chance to pick.
DeMeco Ryans ‘excited to work’ with John Metchie III
The former Alabama wide receiver missed his NFL rookie season because of cancer.
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The Texans just need a speedster, which they should be able to get in the second round; either Hyatt or Flowers.
Or maybe later with guys like Dell or Scott.
The receiver corp should be at least average.
Well, at least I think it could be.
One of the guys may even step up and surprise us.
The potential is there.
Whether or not the QB can deliver is more of a concern to me.
What with the Panthers trading up to the number one spot; Young will probably be gone by the time the Texans get a chance to pick.
TexanBorn51
All Pro
Woods' play declined in 2022, finishing with the fewest yards of his career (527) and a career-worst 9.9 YPR. With Nico Collins playing outside, Woods could see more time in the slot in Houston after playing 16% of snaps there last year. Woods would have a top-two role in the Texans' offense if Cooks is traded - per Rotoworld comment
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Has not produced en par with Cooks in the past recent years. Could be a plus as a run blocker. BUT..........
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The Journal of Arthroscopy, Sports Medicine and Rehabilitation
Decreased Performance and Return to Play Following Anterior Cruciate Ligament Reconstruction in National Football League Wide Receivers
Colin J. Burgess D.O. a, Erik Stapleton D.O., M.S. a, Kenneth Choy B.A. b, Cesar Iturriaga M.D. a, Randy M. Cohn M.D. a
Purpose
To identify the time to return to play (RTP) and evaluate the performance level in wide receivers in the National Football League following anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) reconstruction.
Methods
A total of 29 wide receivers in the National Football League who underwent ACL reconstruction between 2013 and 2017 who met inclusion criteria were retrospectively identified and reviewed. For each player, a matched control with similar demographics was identified to compare various in-game performance measurements and seasons played.
Results
Of the wide receivers that met the inclusion criteria, 9 of 29 (31%) did not RTP in a regular season game following ACL reconstruction. For players who did RTP, 20 of 29 (69%), the average time was 10.9 months (331.4 ± 41.6 days). When we compared the tear group with the matched control cohort, players with ACL tears ended their careers on an average of 1.9 seasons earlier (2.2 vs 4.1 seasons, P < .001) and also played less than half the number of games (25.5 vs 56.6 games, P = .001), respectively. Those that RTP also saw decreased performance statistics in targets (353.6 vs 125.2 P < .001), receptions (208.0 vs 74.4, P = .001), receiving yards (2691.0 vs 987.9, P = .001), and touchdowns (17.4 vs 6.2, P = .002).
Conclusions
Sixty-nine percent of wide receivers who underwent ACL reconstruction were able to RTP at an average of 10.9 months, or 331.4 days. Despite the majority of players being able to RTP, there was a significant decrease in both statistical performance and career duration.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Nice work again Doc.
I imagine the conclusion would apply similarly to the other position groups as well.
TexanBorn51
All Pro
Interesting studies again Dr Cloak. thanks for the share. idnk about him nor his past ACL injury. Good to know for other player injuries too
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
ACLs do not affect every position the same. But all positions except QBs are significantly affected.
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Return to Play and Performance After Anterior Cruciate Ligament Reconstruction in National Football League Players
Kush S. Mody, MBA ksmody2255@gmail.com, Amanda N. Fletcher, MD, MSc, […], and Selene G. Parekh, MD,
https://doi.org/10.1177/23259671221079637
Abstract
Background:
Considerable variability exists in return-to-play rates after anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injury and reconstruction (ACLR) among National Football League (NFL) players of different positions.
Purpose/Hypothesis:
The purpose of this study was to compare return-to-play and performance levels by position in NFL players after ACLR. It was hypothesized that (1) ACL injuries have significant effects on the careers of NFL players, including return to play and performance, and (2) players of certain positions that involve relatively less pivoting and cutting perform better after ACLR.
Study Design:
Descriptive epidemiology study.
Methods:
All NFL players who underwent ACLR between 2013 and 2018 were identified using the FantasyData injury database. Player characteristics, snap count, games played, games started, and performance metrics were collected for 3 years before and after injury using the Pro Football Reference database. Performance was measured using an approximate value (AV) algorithm to compare performance across positions and over time. Nonparametric tests were used to compare the pre- and postinjury data and the percentage change in performance between different positions.
Results:
Overall, 312 NFL players were included in this study, and 174 (55.8%) returned to play. Of the eligible players, only 28.5% (n = 59/207) remained in the league 3 years postinjury. Within the first 3 years postinjury, players played in fewer games (8.7 vs 13.7; P < .0001), started in fewer games (3.0 vs 8.3; P < .0001), had lower AVs (1.5 vs 4.3; P < .0001), and had decreased snap counts (259.0 vs 619.0; P < .0001) compared with preinjury. Quarterbacks were most likely to return to play (92.9% vs 53.7%; P = .0040) and to return to performance (2% vs 50% decrease in AV; P = .0165) compared with the other positions. Running backs had the largest decrease in AV (90.5%), followed by defensive linemen (76.2%) and linebackers (62.5%).
Conclusion:
The study findings indicated that NFL players are severely affected by ACL injury, with only 28.5% still active in the league 3 years after the injury. Running backs, defensive linemen, and linebackers performed the worst after injury. Quarterbacks were most likely to return to play and had superior postinjury performance compared with the other positions.
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Orthopaedic Journal of Sports Medicine April 2022
Return to Play and Performance After Anterior Cruciate Ligament Reconstruction in National Football League Players
Kush S. Mody, MBA ksmody2255@gmail.com, Amanda N. Fletcher, MD, MSc, […], and Selene G. Parekh, MD,
https://doi.org/10.1177/23259671221079637
Abstract
Background:
Considerable variability exists in return-to-play rates after anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injury and reconstruction (ACLR) among National Football League (NFL) players of different positions.
Purpose/Hypothesis:
The purpose of this study was to compare return-to-play and performance levels by position in NFL players after ACLR. It was hypothesized that (1) ACL injuries have significant effects on the careers of NFL players, including return to play and performance, and (2) players of certain positions that involve relatively less pivoting and cutting perform better after ACLR.
Study Design:
Descriptive epidemiology study.
Methods:
All NFL players who underwent ACLR between 2013 and 2018 were identified using the FantasyData injury database. Player characteristics, snap count, games played, games started, and performance metrics were collected for 3 years before and after injury using the Pro Football Reference database. Performance was measured using an approximate value (AV) algorithm to compare performance across positions and over time. Nonparametric tests were used to compare the pre- and postinjury data and the percentage change in performance between different positions.
Results:
Overall, 312 NFL players were included in this study, and 174 (55.8%) returned to play. Of the eligible players, only 28.5% (n = 59/207) remained in the league 3 years postinjury. Within the first 3 years postinjury, players played in fewer games (8.7 vs 13.7; P < .0001), started in fewer games (3.0 vs 8.3; P < .0001), had lower AVs (1.5 vs 4.3; P < .0001), and had decreased snap counts (259.0 vs 619.0; P < .0001) compared with preinjury. Quarterbacks were most likely to return to play (92.9% vs 53.7%; P = .0040) and to return to performance (2% vs 50% decrease in AV; P = .0165) compared with the other positions. Running backs had the largest decrease in AV (90.5%), followed by defensive linemen (76.2%) and linebackers (62.5%).
Conclusion:
The study findings indicated that NFL players are severely affected by ACL injury, with only 28.5% still active in the league 3 years after the injury. Running backs, defensive linemen, and linebackers performed the worst after injury. Quarterbacks were most likely to return to play and had superior postinjury performance compared with the other positions.
Free agency next week will be for players with expired contracts. Woods was cut from an existing contract, and becomes what is referred to as a "street" free agent. Peyton Manning was a street free agent when the Broncos signed him, as the Colts cut him on an existing contract.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Meh signing IMO.
A 31 year old #2 on team that with Cooks out, which he will be, becomes your WR1 for the time being.
Texansballer74
The Marine
I wouldn’t say his play declined. We have to factor in their offensive scheme and who the Titans had at quarterback.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Shhh…people aren’t ready for the logic behind the stats…
Even if it's a "meh" signing, it's still at the top of that type of deal.
I won't predict what kind of production he may bring as it depends on the other guys also (Collins, Mechie and perhaps/likely another receiver).
Woods was signed with no. 2 salary; I don't expect him to become no. 1 though I think he can be a poor-man no. 1 if the situation arises.
I hope either Collins truly breaks out and/or Mechie can play.
I think the Texans will draft another RB and we will see more emphasis in the running game anyway.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
He played every game last season and graded out as a top tier run blocker among WRs. Another season removed from ACL surgery and hopefully playing with a team not starting Malik Willis will improve production. Not expecting 1000 yards receiving. But he will be a positive contributor.
Honestly if Cooks just decides to play under the contract he was happy to sign this receiving corps will be solid four deep.
The question now is adding a field stretcher, which Cooks can provide better than any of the rookie options.
Slot will be taken care of by Metchie, with Woods as insurance if Metchie doesn’t pan out. If Metchie works out then Woods is outside.
TexanBorn51
All Pro
also a shoutout to TE improvement whether draft FA trade existing improved skills etc
Cap casualty
Tennessee has WR as a 2nd or 3rd option behind King Henry. I'm not butt hurt with this signing. Hopefully Cooks gets his wish and Metchie lives up to expectations. Has CnD weighed in on Metchie's return to play this season?
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leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
#3 maybe 4 wr
That's surprising considering how ACLs are portrayed these days.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
A lot of things regarding injuries are "bent" by players, their team doctors, their teams, their media for positive PR purposes.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
My question is why?I doubt any team was beating down Woods door to sign him after that 9 ypc last year.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
He was paid roughly half what Cooks was paid last year.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
As a wr , the only thing he does better than Cooks is block. Listen, I like Woods, he's been a solid contributor most of his career. I wouldn't trade Cooks and eat a bunch of money because of Woods. I don't really understand why now? Woods is a guy you can get at the end of free agency and he's certainly not a player who should have gtd money unless its tied to making the roster and being active and playing games.
I don’t think they want to replace Cooks with Woods it’s just that they have to replace Cooks with somebody as he straight up doesn’t want to be here
As for guaranteed money 10mil is in my opinion a bit of an overpay but look at the FA WR market and look at other comparable contract, I don’t think it’s out of line.
Also think you’re a little too low on him. Last year wasn’t good but up until then he was a productive receiver and last year half his games had Josh Dobbs and Malik Willis throwing to him
I understand the logic but your basically saying we signed a 31 year old receiver after taking a year off.
That's not better than signing a declining receiver.
I'm not for or against the move. It's what the Texans do. But this early, before FA... this is odd & I don't know what to make of it.
I don’t know what you mean by taking a year off. He played all 17 games just had a terrible offense around him for good chunks of the year.
Not sure what to make of it either. Definitely a wait and see and I’m leaning negative but if he can go out and be a good run blocker and get in that 6-700 yard range I’ll be okay. Guess we’ll see
He's a good teammate
Porky
Hall of Fame
He’s not a true difference maker, but he isn’t JAG either. he is one of the better run blockers in the league at his position, something highly valued by the Kubiak/Shanny system. He’s the 2023 version of Kevin Walter and I expect fairly close numbers and impact assuming we get better QB play…not some Mills crapola but actual QB play.
Mangler
Toro de España
Maybe Cooks is staying though. There were articles saying that Cooks was open to playing for the new coaching staff.