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Alright, Roger, the ball is in your court. Let's see if he's consistent about holding players accountable regardless of star status.
And very interesting that one side is lying about the NDAs. And seeing that we know Watson is already proven to be a dishonest person, it's not hard to reach a conclusion about who is not being truthful about the NDA agreements.
No ball yet. January the case will be brought before a GJ. If they bring charges, then the ball is in Godell’s court.Alright, Roger, the ball is in your court.
I’m thinking we’re talking about two different NDA instances. Back in the beginning it may have been Buzbee who wanted an NDA. I think he said as much.And very interesting that one side is lying about the NDAs.
And very interesting that one side is lying about the NDAs.
Hardin back in May made the claim that Buzbee wanted an NDA. Buzbee immediately retorted saying that Hardin approached him for settlement (not the other way around) and submitted an NDA surrounding potential mediation for settlement. Buzbee stated that he never approached Hardin for settlement, nor did any settlement talks ever occurred at the time and that Hardin submitted the NDA to him to be signed before proceeding.No ball yet. January the case will be brought before a GJ. If they bring charges, then the ball is in Godell’s court.
I’m thinking we’re talking about two different NDA instances. Back in the beginning it may have been Buzbee who wanted an NDA. I think he said as much.
Now, Watson wants the NDA.
No ball yet. January the case will be brought before a GJ. If they bring charges, then the ball is in Godell’s court.
I’m thinking we’re talking about two different NDA instances. Back in the beginning it may have been Buzbee who wanted an NDA. I think he said as much.
Now, Watson wants the NDA.
Hardin back in May made the claim that Buzbee wanted an NDA. Buzbee immediately retorted saying that Hardin approached him for settlement (not the other way around) and submitted an NDA surrounding potential mediation for settlement. Buzbee stated that he never approached Hardin for settlement, nor did any settlement talks ever occurred at the time and that Hardin submitted the NDA to him to be signed before proceeding.
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May 14, 2021 @ 12:24pm » Chris Rosvoglou
Tony Buzbee Fires Back At Deshaun Watson’s Lawyer Over “Settlement” Comment
There have been a handful of twists and turns when it comes to Deshaun Watson’s legal situation, and as of now, it appears NFL fans should brace for at least a few more.
Watson’s lawyer, Rusty Hardin, made headlines this week when he said that Tony Buzbee reached out to him about a potential settlement for his 22 clients.
“While we have never approached Mr. Buzbee about a settlement, he has approached us on numerous occasions in the past about the possibility of a settlement,” Hardin said. “We have made clear all along that there would be no settlement unless the terms are made public and all participants are allowed to speak in their own defense at all times. We want none of the participants – the plaintiffs or Mr. Watson – muzzled by a settlement agreement. Mr. Buzbee does not feel the same.”
Buzbee responded to that recent claim from Hardin on Friday, posting a picture of a non-disclosure agreement related to a mediation process on Instagram alongside a very strong caption.
“Not that many care about it anymore. But there is a thing called ‘justice.’ And we will find it,” Buzbee wrote in his latest post. “Contrary to what Mr. Rusty says, we haven’t ‘approached them to settle,’ ever. When they approached us they insisted we sign this. We obviously didn’t reach out to them; they begged us via the Texans to mediate. We hold the cards. The truth sometimes or most of the time hurts!!!! We approached them?!? My ass.”
Hardin’s recent statement made it seem as if Buzbee asked for confidentiality regarding any settlements, but Buzbee appears to be saying that it’s the other way around.
It’s also worth mentioning that Hardin said Deshaun Watson won’t accept a settlement without certain contingencies.
January ? Wait that's next month ! I dunno is Kim Ogg a Texans fan ?
No ball yet. January the case will be brought before a GJ. If they bring charges, then the ball is in Godell’s court.
I’m thinking we’re talking about two different NDA instances. Back in the beginning it may have been Buzbee who wanted an NDA. I think he said as much.
Now, Watson wants the NDA.
Not sure why we should believe Buzbee anymore than Hardin. Buzbee is a sleazebag nutjob based on his history...
I didn't need to rely on Hardin or Buzbee for the NDA situation. I received my information real-time from a Texans source familiar with the situation when Team Watson (Hardin et al.) approached the Texans for mediation in May.Not sure why we should believe Buzbee anymore than Hardin. Buzbee is a sleazebag nutjob based on his history...
I’m thinking we’re talking about two different NDA instances. Back in the beginning it may have been Buzbee who wanted an NDA. I think he said as much.
Now, Watson wants the NDA.
Not sure why we should believe Buzbee anymore than Hardin. Buzbee is a sleazebag nutjob based on his history...
Hardin initially made the claim that Buzbee's clients wanted NDAs. Buzbee denied it.
That was the last we'd heard of NDAs until the recent trade deadline, and it was reported that Watson's side was demanding NDA's as part of settlements.
Usually, it's the defendant paying out the money that wants NDAs. Which is what made Hardin's initial claim a bit weird.
The truth is out there, but we already know that Watson is dishonest.
I've got a bad feeling that this is going to end up putting the Texans in a worst-case scenario: Watson on the CEL for 2022, so the Texans will be forced to either pay him $35 million with the hopes of future potential draft capital, or, cut him to save that money but get no compensation.
Yeah, it's pessimistic, but just a result of conditioning, I guess. . .
True, but that money can't be used by the team until the next season.Pretty sure I've read on this board that when a player is on CEL, the team isn't the one paying his salary.
Pretty sure I've read on this board that when a player is on CEL, the team isn't the one paying his salary.
Pretty sure I've read on this board that when a player is on CEL, the team isn't the one paying his salary.
Has anyone ever cited that?
I've got a bad feeling that this is going to end up putting the Texans in a worst-case scenario: Watson on the CEL for 2022, so the Texans will be forced to either pay him $35 million with the hopes of future potential draft capital, or, cut him to save that money but get no compensation.
Yeah, it's pessimistic, but just a result of conditioning, I guess. . .
The only thing I've read about the Commisioners Exempt List is Article 46 Section 5 of the CBA.Has anyone ever cited that?
If there is a silver lining to the exempt list, it's that the player basically gets time served for his suspension. So if this ever ends, the team that trades for Watson should have his services immediately. As long as the length of time on the CEL is greater than or equal to the suspension. That will be helpful in regards to trade value.NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement
Article 46
Commissioner Discipline
Section 5
Commissioner Exempt
Players who are placed by the Commissioner on the Exempt list prior to the determination of discipline and any appeal therefrom under the Personal Conduct Policy will be paid while on the Commissioner Exempt list and credited for the regular and post-season games missed against any suspension ultimately imposed. Notwithstanding any other provision in this Agreement, if such a suspension is ultimately imposed, the player must promptly return and shall have no further right to any salary for the games for which he was paid while on the Commissioner Exempt list that were credited to the suspension (i.e., for a number of games no greater than the length of the suspension).
I've got a bad feeling that this is going to end up putting the Texans in a worst-case scenario: Watson on the CEL for 2022, so the Texans will be forced to either pay him $35 million with the hopes of future potential draft capital, or, cut him to save that money but get no compensation.
Yeah, it's pessimistic, but just a result of conditioning, I guess. . .
Pretty sure I've read on this board that when a player is on CEL, the team isn't the one paying his salary.
True, but that money can't be used by the team until the next season.
If he is put on the CEL it won't be for a set period. If he's taken off three weeks into the season the Texans have to have that money available & allotted to him.
So they're not going to tally up the "savings" & give it back & make it available to the team until the following season.
Good news though is the roster spot is available for 2022. So keeping 4 QBs that aren't PS eligible is more feasible (not that you want to do that) since we don't know how the practice squad will work next season.
I don't remember where I found it before but its in one of these threads with links .....
If Watson goes on the CEL the league pays his salary , not the Texans , he does not take up a roster spot, his cap hit remains for the current year but is removed from the following years cap , much like unspent cap space roll over would.
If he's found to be guilty of something outside the league's conduct policy , the team and or league can go after the money he has been paid both bonus and regular salary.
I would think there would have to be a valid contract or money still owed if the player was released/cut.Very interesting.
The Texans cap would still be impacted in 2022 if he's on the CEL, if I'm following what you're saying. Or does that depend on which league year he's put on the CEL?
So, if a player is cut while on the CEL, does the league continue to pay? Or is that salary dependent on a valid contract with a team?
One thing I came across that was a little surprising is that Watson is only 1 of 11 players in the league with no trade clauses. I thought it was more common than that.
It just makes me dislike him as a person even more when you realize the sweet deal the Texans gave him, only to betray them a few months later because they would not cover his [allegedly] perverted ass.
Very interesting.
The Texans cap would still be impacted in 2022 if he's on the CEL, if I'm following what you're saying. Or does that depend on which league year he's put on the CEL?
So, if a player is cut while on the CEL, does the league continue to pay? Or is that salary dependent on a valid contract with a team?
One thing I came across that was a little surprising is that Watson is only 1 of 11 players in the league with no trade clauses. I thought it was more common than that.
It just makes me dislike him as a person even more when you realize the sweet deal the Texans gave him, only to betray them a few months later because they would not cover his [allegedly] perverted ass.
This might get moved. But that story about Hopkins puts a lot of things in perspective
That he DM’ed this Instagram model asking if he and his uncle could have sex with her at the same time.What story on Hopkins ....
It was said several weeks ago and I questioned as to what part of CBA said who paid. It doesn't say. As DB's post states the player gets paid but does NOT say by whom. To me if the Commissioner decides to utilize the CEL the NFL should pay.. but that's just my opinion.Pretty sure I've read on this board that when a player is on CEL, the team isn't the one paying his salary.
Read into it what you will. I did.I do not believe that is correct based on previous CEL situations.
According to NFL.com (about Josh Brown):
"While on the list, Brown cannot practice or attend games, and is allowed at the Giants' facility for meetings, individual workouts, therapy and rehabilitation and other permitted non-football activities if permitted by the franchise. Brown will continue to receive his normal salary and will be eligible for all the benefits he qualifies for under the Collective Bargaining Agreement."
More on the rule:
NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement
Article 46
Commissioner Discipline
Section 5
Commissioner Exempt
Players who are placed by the Commissioner on the Exempt list prior to the determination of discipline and any appeal therefrom under the Personal Conduct Policy will be paid while on the Commissioner Exempt list and credited for the regular and post-season games missed against any suspension ultimately imposed. Notwithstanding any other provision in this Agreement, if such a suspension is ultimately imposed, the player must promptly return and shall have no further right to any salary for the games for which he was paid while on the Commissioner Exempt list that were credited to the suspension (i.e., for a number of games no greater than the length of the suspension).
where is JB demanding a source.. must not follow you. First I've heard of that claim.That he DM’ed this Instagram model asking if he and his uncle could have sex with her at the same time.
where is JB demanding a source.. must not follow you. First I've heard of that claim.
In the article there is a picture that is allegedly a text or DM from HopkinsI looked it up and the story is from 2019.
I cannot ascertain the veracity of totalprosports.com.
No "credible" other source, which is weird that even a tabloid like TMZ did not report this story. So, as always, take it fwiw.
p.s. even if true, it's not even close to the same situation that Watson is in right now, but could help explain the attitude toward Nuk by some front office executives at NRG.
I doubt it would have any affect on Watson. He is openly asking an adult about stuff that he wants... If Watson was as open, he wouldn't be in the mess he's in now.In the article there is a picture that is allegedly a text or DM from Hopkins
totalprosports owned by a Jaime Koeppe but only thing on him is face book and I didn't read that. Jaime Jacqueline Koeppe is a Canadian diva in WWE and sometimes actress. The web link is allegedly safe but I don't know how legit.I looked it up and the story is from 2019.
I cannot ascertain the veracity of totalprosports.com.
No "credible" other source, which is weird that even a tabloid like TMZ did not report this story. So, as always, take it fwiw.
p.s. even if true, it's not even close to the same situation that Watson is in right now, but could help explain the attitude toward Nuk by some front office executives at NRG.
Search warrants for Deshaun Watson social media detail police reports from sexual misconduct accusers
Three search warrants — signed in October by a judge to collect data from Deshaun...www.houstonchronicle.com
Can't read it... chron wants me to login
There's more but the fist passage:
Houston police have at least nine reports accusing Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson of sexual misconduct during massage therapy sessions, with search warrant records showing that investigators are eyeing indecent assault — a misdemeanor crime — as a possible criminal charge.
The three search warrants — signed in October by a judge to collect data from Watson’s Instagram and Cash App usage — shed light on the Houston Police Department’s criminal investigation into the athlete, who has not been charged with a crime, amid months of litigation from nearly two dozen lawsuits. The search warrants detail accounts from nine women who say their encounters with Watson devolved from massages to misconduct.
I doubt it would have any affect on Watson. He is openly asking an adult about stuff that he wants... If Watson was as open, he wouldn't be in the mess he's in now.
Don’t take this the wrong way - And I hope any victims get justice -
But if he only gets charged a misdemeanor that’s better than a felony? That’s better for trade purposes right?
Sorry - my “Law and Order” TV Series only taught me so much.
That's just the warrant. Depending on what they find it may escalate.Don’t take this the wrong way - And I hope any victims get justice -
But if he only gets charged a misdemeanor that’s better than a felony? That’s better for trade purposes right?
Sorry - my “Law and Order” TV Series only taught me so much.
That's significant at this stage. Not a good sign for trade purposes.
Say bye-bye to all those extra picks.
Well number one, I figured he would be charged with some misdemeanors. However the grand jury will still meet. Felonies undergo that process. So, the fact HPD got three search warrants doesn’t mean Watson will only see misdemeanors and also it is evidence that HPD believes something worse may have happened. Also there may be more search warrants. These are just for his social media accounts. Not his text messages.Don’t take this the wrong way - And I hope any victims get justice -
But if he only gets charged a misdemeanor that’s better than a felony? That’s better for trade purposes right?
Sorry - my “Law and Order” TV Series only taught me so much.