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Should we trade Watson?
- Thread starter theCATALYST
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What did he say that was against the rules of the site ?
Your use of 4 letter words that get bleeped out is against the rules ...
As for the content of his post , that is the story many have heard as the reason for Janice mandating the DHop trade ...
TexansBull
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So Janice mandated the DHop trade because of the babies’ mommas?
Which made Cal tell Easterby and OB to do it?
Read Corrosion's post below.
Had nothing to do with Easterby. But probably why BO’b had the “Hernandez” talk with Hopkins.
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badboy
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TUSK!
TexansBull
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See - I heard about the Hernandez talk. Knew about the issue with the babies mommas.
But I didn’t know that it was coming from Janice. I thought it was Cal.
The plot thickens.
banned1976
sleeper mode
I heard that Hopkins's mom called Janice complaining that Watson was a bad influence on her son and demanded either Watson be traded or her son. Janice chose to keep Watson. That's why I believe Watson will never be traded.
banned1976
sleeper mode
But the rumor I just started is totally true!
amazing80
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Equally as believable as anything else these “in the know” random message board members say.
maverick512000
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Because it doesn't violate the rules. If OB could be called Buttchin, and have some very funny pics and gifs made, then someone can question Watson to because he falls under public figure as does his girlfriend really since she wants to be a model. I'm not saying I agree with him but if we start punishing people for posts that don't violate the forum rules but someone just doesn't like then who gets to make that call? Pretty sure I can go and find some of your posts during OB's time here that would fall under the same category, would you like me to push for repercussions on that? If you don't like what he posts the ignore function is right there.
Regardless if it came from Cal or Janice. The point is it didn’t come from Easterby but it’s easy to understand why/how so many people think it did.
& for the record it doesn’t matter how true/false this statement is. Everything we know about this situation to date is built on speculation. None of it has been substantiated or corroborated.
None of it.
maverick512000
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Mr. White
Retired OLine Coach
Come on bro, don't start getting legal now. Not fun.
Mr. White
Retired OLine Coach
Liked just for the good memories of watching Harlem Heat this brought back.
Just recently found out that Stevie Ray has a podcast where he does shoot interviews about old wrestling stories. Totally forgot how hilarious that guy is.
TexansBull
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If it’s on the internet it gots to be true.
Tom Brady's final 2020 earnings: $28.375 million - ProFootballTalk
The dust has settled on Tom Brady‘s first-year compensation in Tampa Bay. And Brady ended up doing pretty well.Winning the Super Bowl unlocked one final $500,000 payment for Brady, pushing his total compensation for 2020 to $28.625 million.Qualifying for the playoffs and winning the Super Bowl...
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The salary cap is 198.2 so just over 14 % based on cash and salary cap. I know salary cap math is not simple math though
Tom Brady's final 2020 earnings: $28.375 million - ProFootballTalk
The dust has settled on Tom Brady‘s first-year compensation in Tampa Bay. And Brady ended up doing pretty well.Winning the Super Bowl unlocked one final $500,000 payment for Brady, pushing his total compensation for 2020 to $28.625 million.Qualifying for the playoffs and winning the Super Bowl...
The salary cap is 198.2 so just over 14 % based on cash and salary cap. I know salary cap math is not simple math though
If anyone is going to bust through that 13.?% narrative, of course it's Super Tom.
Texian
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Make the Draft Fun AGAIN!
Texian
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The problem with this post is if you click on and listen to the song you won't be able to get it out of your head. You will be walking around for days singing Boats and Hoes.
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Tom Brady's final 2020 earnings: $28.375 million - ProFootballTalk
The dust has settled on Tom Brady‘s first-year compensation in Tampa Bay. And Brady ended up doing pretty well.Winning the Super Bowl unlocked one final $500,000 payment for Brady, pushing his total compensation for 2020 to $28.625 million.Qualifying for the playoffs and winning the Super Bowl...
The salary cap is 198.2 so just over 14 % based on cash and salary cap. I know salary cap math is not simple math though
The final tally for Tampa's adjusted salary cap - factoring rollover, bonus payments, etc - ends up as $204.782M.
And so with Tom's final salary totaled this puts his cap percentage at 13.85%.
And we have a new barrier..
until the next barrier.
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austins23
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Sometimes you just gotta ignore that thing and go on home...
so I am okay with just thinking you can't pay one player (normally QB) some silly amount of money as still field a complete team including enough depth to survive injuries and such or do I have to know the exact number?
maverick512000
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Tom Brady's final 2020 earnings: $28.375 million - ProFootballTalk
The dust has settled on Tom Brady‘s first-year compensation in Tampa Bay. And Brady ended up doing pretty well.Winning the Super Bowl unlocked one final $500,000 payment for Brady, pushing his total compensation for 2020 to $28.625 million.Qualifying for the playoffs and winning the Super Bowl...
The salary cap is 198.2 so just over 14 % based on cash and salary cap. I know salary cap math is not simple math though
According to these Brady cap hit is 25 million.
Tom Brady's Contract Details, Salary Cap Impact, Bonuses, Career Earnings and Net Worth
What is the current situation with Tom Brady's contract, what is the salary cap impact for the Buccaneers, and how much has he earned in his career?
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Tom Brady Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money, and Contract History | Over The Cap
Tom Brady contract and salary cap details, including signing bonus, guaranteed salary, dead money, roster bonuses, and contract history
overthecap.com
According to these Brady cap hit is 25 million.
Tom Brady's Contract Details, Salary Cap Impact, Bonuses, Career Earnings and Net Worth
What is the current situation with Tom Brady's contract, what is the salary cap impact for the Buccaneers, and how much has he earned in his career?
Tom Brady Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money, and Contract History | Over The Cap
Tom Brady contract and salary cap details, including signing bonus, guaranteed salary, dead money, roster bonuses, and contract historyoverthecap.com
That's without factoring in his bonus incentive money, like in ArlingtonTexan's link upthread.
maverick512000
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But do those incentive bonuses count against the 2020 cap? I’m seriously asking because everything I’ve read is that his cap hit in 2020 is a little over 12% but his 2021 hit is 15+ That tells me those incentive bonuses roll over to next years cap but I’ll be the first to admit that I’m not a cap wizard.
My understanding is that the 'adjusted cap' in a given season is there to account for the additional bonus/incentive money in a given season.
maverick512000
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But that first article came out 8 hours ago so I would think he would have factored that in. Likewise Over The Cap usually updates pretty often.
That story also said what Brady would count against the cap next season when there isn't even an actual cap number for next season yet.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
It's the only thing interesting about this gawdalfull shitpile we call the Houston Texans.
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just because this is starting to hit the national rumor mills
If anyone is going to bust through that 13.?% narrative, of course it's Super Tom.
The point stands, change the number to 14% including not likely to be earned incentives.
Have the goalposts really been moved.
I guess your point if you want to be extremely technical to prove some kind of weird point is true. My point remains the same. Hardly moving the goalposts at all, you might be missing the bigger picture.
Is the number still 13.2% or is it now 13.9%?
What might it be in a couple years or so?
Who knows, but you cant pay your QB 20% of the cap and expect to win a SB.
Well as long as the goalposts haven't been moved..
Wentz?
Tom Brady's final 2020 earnings: $28.375 million - ProFootballTalk
The dust has settled on Tom Brady‘s first-year compensation in Tampa Bay. And Brady ended up doing pretty well.Winning the Super Bowl unlocked one final $500,000 payment for Brady, pushing his total compensation for 2020 to $28.625 million.Qualifying for the playoffs and winning the Super Bowl...
The salary cap is 198.2 so just over 14 % based on cash and salary cap. I know salary cap math is not simple math though
Tampa Bay's adjusted cap is $204,105,250.
According to the math , it is exactly 13.90% of the adjusted cap.
$28,275,000 divided by $204,105,250 = 0.1390214117471256.
Adjusted cap accounts for cap roll over from the previous year.
I don't think the target has moved at all .... not when you consider the length of time it took and the guy that finally broke that 13.2% barrier by seven tenths of a percentage point.
It's not like that seven tenths is remotely approaching the near doubling of that figure Watson's contract will account for in 22 & 23 when he's paid $42,000,000.
The goal posts haven't been moved at all ....
Texansballer74
The Marine
Or Brady’s backup. Lol
The outcome would be the team could only control him for 2 years instead of the length of the contract plus 2 years.
The team would have much less leverage in this scenario .... and the return on expected trades would be much lower than the godfather offers we seek in the current situation.
The story that's been told was Watson's momma made a call to Janice about the instragram hoes he and DHop were running around with , that it was a poor influence on Watson and that something should be done about it and supposedly Janice gave the orders to OB to get him gone.
What we didn't know at the time was that Easterby was involved.... having had conversations with Momma Watson about the issue prior to the call to Janice.
I'm not so sure how factual all this is but the pieces have kinda fallen into place over time and become more believable when the reports that Easterby having called players mothers about character issues.
This story originated from people in the front office the day Hopkins was moved ..... I think it's fairly likely that there is more truth than fiction going on here , even if the details aren't exact.