Agree 100%. There were no excuses for sure last year.
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Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
My biggest issue with that fiasco was the Texans, once again, not being able to figure out if they want to go for it or not, and when they finally do decide to do it, they're running out of time and have to burn a TO. I don't think I've ever seen them run up to the LOS and just get the play off before the other team knows what's going on.
Make the damn decision, get your guys to the line and go!!!
But the double TO was pretty stupid. If you're burning a TO anyway, why not just throw the damn challenge flag? The football IQ of this organization just really seems lacking.
PapaL
Loose Screw
bruised butt
https://mobile.twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1171516200993509378
The #Texans are signing QB Alex McGough to the active roster, source said. This was in the works before Deshaun Watson bruised his butt last night. #Jaguars were interested in bringing McGough back after Nick Foles injury. Instead, a promotion from practice squad in Houston.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
So what you are saying is Watson is butt hurt from last nights game.
A lot of us are.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Look at TK with the STAFF MEMBER badge!! I was wondering how I could see your posts while blocked. Lol. Okay now keep it 100 and no lube and sodomy jokes!
It doesn't matter to me. It was so close I'd have threw the flag & used the time like a time out to call a 4th & short play.
If you're thinking about calling a timeout anyway & your man is laying on the line to gain... worse case scenario you lose a challenge. Best case scenario you lose neither a timeout or a challenge & you get a 1st down.
BO'bs way, lose two timeouts, a challenge & you're feeling lucky they didn't penalize you for calling back to back timeouts.
I follow TT.com rules, not Uncle Rico rules. But I'll try.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Pffff following rules now wow I better be careful. I don’t know why but I figured you’d be one of the rebels. Well good luck in your new role.
PapaL
Loose Screw
So what you are saying is Watson is butt hurt from last nights game.
Talk about a pain in the
austins23
Hall of Fame
OB sticking it to the Jags...
austins23
Hall of Fame
Please allow me to clear the air about “depressing”...
Don’t know if you read any of my other responses but I’m not “depressed” about this team.
It’s “depressing” to lose in that fashion. Your QB that has huge stones just got them rocked all game and got you a lead with 37 seconds left in the game.
Then you (you and your refer to the D) go down meekly.
That’s “depressing”. Not the game. I have a different outlook on this team after that game. Healthy, this team is gonna give it hell season.
Like I said before , I expect typical Texans …. beat up on the weak sisters and get exposed by the better teams.
Same thing we've seen for the last decade+.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
See I don’t see it as getting exposed. Again we forced it to come down to a field goal with less than 30 seconds against the one guy that might can stand toe to toe against Brady in his house which is legendary for being so hostile to visiting teams. Yeah some stupid stuff happened but we still played if not on Saints level then close enough to make them work for it.
Texas Legend
Practice Squad
This was probably the game of the year. Or top 3. And it’s only week 1. Looking forward to the season.
Semantics.
Bottom line is that the result was as expected against a top quality opponent - a mark in the L column.
They are gonna have to beat some quality opponents to change my expectations going into those games against quality opponents.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
That’s fair but at least they weren’t completely destroyed like some predicted.
I will admit it was much closer than I thought it would be. I expected the Aints to run off and hide early on and the Texans to close the gap a little in garbage time.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Well, people's predictions are irrelevant. Regardless of how they played, and they did have a better showing than I expected, it still ended up in the L column. That's the only thing that matters. Another game they shoulda, coulda won but didn't. Another team with a winning record, assuming the Saints go on to have a winning record, that they don't beat (OB 11-28).
Yes, it was a good game, exciting game no less, but it was a loss. There are no moral victory standings.
texanhead08
All Pro
The timeout, challenge, or go for it is where all the confusion comes in because he has to figure out the next play too. This is why I don't like the idea of the head coach calling plays. He has enough on his plate deciding to go for it or not, and he adds to it with his bad clock management/challenge record and figuring out the next play to call too.
On the radio they talked like there was confusion on the Texans sideline and when it looked like they had decided to go for it there were 17 seconds on the play clock and they hadn't sent the play in yet.
I guess at that point he decides to call timeout and then they probably saw the replay on the big screen or someone in the coaches box told him he needed to have them look at it. Then another bad decision I am just glad they scored on the next play or he would have really been catching hell for it.
On the radio they talked like there was confusion on the Texans sideline and when it looked like they had decided to go for it there were 17 seconds on the play clock and they hadn't sent the play in yet.
I guess at that point he decides to call timeout and then they probably saw the replay on the big screen or someone in the coaches box told him he needed to have them look at it. Then another bad decision I am just glad they scored on the next play or he would have really been catching hell for it.
zshawn10
All Pro
That stat is amazing. It speaks to desperation. The obvious .... we've got to create a more diverse and prolific offense. We need to entertain the idea of bringing in a young collegiate, spread, zone, air raid, point-scoring, Rams,Chiefs, Chargers type offensive coordinator. We have a great young QB who would flourish in it !
I agree, the way it's presented is pretty bad. I wonder how many times it happened to Manning, either one. Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck... Matt Stafford.
You know, contemporary QBs.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
RAC called it right.
Players have to execute. One didn't and it cost that player his job.
Why that player was on the field is open to criticism.
Nobody on this board knows more about coaching an NFL team than Obrien and RAC.
Nobody, just a lot of posturing and blowing smoke. So much so it gets comical.
EVOLVIST
Kid A
I apologize. Sincerely.
When will they?
When do you think they wont have guys like V. Smith/Carter/Davenport/Kelemete etc.... starting a playoff game and I will try to tell you.
I don't think it will be anytime soon without first round picks and capspace
And stills is on his third team. How often do you think these picks hit?
dream_team
Hall of Fame
Some details were wrong, but the gist was right.
dream_team
Hall of Fame
This year? If guys stay healthy, none of those guys will be starting come playoffs.
That's the point
The point is you can't count on low round picks to pan out
No, but you can find talent if you work hard. This is THE point. I know fans around here aren't used to seeing players that are talented outside of the 1st rd under the RS regime. But it can be done.
Also they finally found a guy to protect Watson's blindside.
dream_team
Hall of Fame
Huh? I'm so confused. You were saying they don't have enough talent to beat playoff teams. Are you now saying they do?
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
And the wannabe TT gm's castigated them for it.
Texans management has done a 180 in their modus operandi and some on here are still whining.
I approve. No more automatic contract renewals, earn it or move on. "Here's your apple and roadmap"
Goes for you too OBrien.
Not too sure who it is but there is definitely a new sheriff in town.
They aren't working hard. They are trading and over paying with future assets in lieu of working hard.
O'Brien even said so
I'm saying they are talented enough but need experience. They are in yr 2 of a 3 yr rebuild.
And the wannabe TT gm's castigated them for it.
Texans management has done a 180 in their modus operandi and some on here are still whining.
I approve. No more automatic contract renewals, earn it or move on. "Here's your apple and roadmap"
Goes for you too OBrien.
Not too sure who it is but there is definitely a new sheriff in town.
Eh , it was a hard trade to take on a couple levels.
#1 they just spent their first round pick on a guy who was supposed to be …. that guy. Some of us called it a reach then and that's pretty obvious now.
#2 the cost was out of this world. That was damn near Hershel Walker territory (two first-round picks, three second-round picks and a third-round selection.)
#3 They didn't negotiate an extension as part of the trade and that's the biggest issue I have with the deal. I can accept the cost for a good player at a position of dire need even if it was an overpay - I cant accept not locking him in long term when it cost you that much draft capital.
Don't you mean year 6 of a 3 year rebuild ??
Or do the years before Watson not count ?
They gave up two 1sts for a stud young LT. Hardly overpaying. The hard work is finding gems like Reid/Stills/Coutee in the 3rd or later. You would know this if you would take off your BOB hate filled glasses.
The yrs with the incompetence of RS dont count,.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
1: They never once said that Howard was their LT of the future. In fact they said, which many crucified them for, that they didn't know what he would play. People are talking about our first round pick as though it was a top 15; 1.23 for a LG or RG of 10 years is great value.
2: Agreed the cost was high but the cost of finding a new franchise QB would be much greater and with Tunsil at least you know he's not going to be a bust like a draft pick. Likewise Johnson and Hyde have already proven to be better than any RB we have had since Foster and even Stills looked like he belonged out there. Its just like going shopping, you can pay a cheaper price and not know what you are getting or you can pay more and get the proven, name brand stuff. Sometimes the cheap stuff is ok and works and sometimes its better just to pony up the extra money.
3. I've thought about this and at first I agreed with you but the more I thought about it the more I saw a possible reason they didn't. Tunsil knows that LTs are getting stupid money and the price will only go up, likewise he knows the Texans had to protect Watson and protect him now. People keep going on and on about Clowney's power Tunsil has got real power and if he doesn't want to sign a new deal till he sees the market what are the Texans going to do, not play him? Even if you say "they should have walked away from the deal then" where are you going to find another stud LT and more important one that a team is willing to trade? It wouldn't surprise me if Tunsil wasn't the one that said no long term deal right now.
dream_team
Hall of Fame
You would know that Rick also found late round gems like Chris Myers, Brandon Brooks, Ben Jones, Wade Smith, Arian Foster, Antonio Smith, Glover Quin, Owen Daniels, Mike Brisiel. You would know this if you would take off your RS hate filled glasses.