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TexansFight
Veteran
Disgusting stupidity. There isn't a person I hate in this world more than Bill O'Brien.
TexansFight
Veteran
Being good on the field is not valued but the other bullshit is. BOB belongs in high school football not the NFL. Idiot.
This is the reason Blue lasted so long and probably why Clowney was let go.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Yeah couldn't believe it either. Of all the people for the Texans to break their "No contracts during season" why the hell did they choose Martin. After just one game to where he got pushed around, I could understand if it was Tunsil but Fing Martin?
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
100Ms ... 60-70 Guaranteed. 5 years.
If I were tunsils agent I would laugh at that
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Highest paid LT in NFL.
Rich Schmidt
Myopicone
Here is what I mean @Kdog, perfectly good item to get upset about. No need to reach, just wait and he hands them to you. I like the game he called last night, but loyalty to Romeo, Devlin and some players is just too much. Martin top 5, nope, cannot see this
The biggest problems we face are .... 1) Cal believes what ever O'Brien says .... 2) O'Brien may be a bright man .... but his views and instincts are absolutely horrible ....#3) O'Brien sees Bilichek do it year after year .... so he thinks he can too. We're doomed !!
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Well let me put it this way, expect to see a vote for a new bond to come out called "Proposition Tunsil"
TexansFight
Veteran
Not enough is being said about how bad Kelemente and Henderson looked last night. Kelemente was laid flat on his ass at least 5 times from my count. Just frigging terrible. Henderson was terrible as well. For the love of God, I would rather see Howard and Scharping out there even if they have to take their lumps rather than these 2 no talent assclowns.
Jackie Chiles
Veteran
I think it is just a matter of time on both. With Howard injured I think they let him have an extra week to heal and that is not a good environment to make your debut. Rather go with the vet. Howard should be the guy moving forward. How about Johnson playing RT? Henderson looks like he has cement feet.
Unfortunately I don't think anyone else really received snaps at RT. It was mainly Seantrel and Davenport
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
That is so Texans.
Hey, I gave away Clowney for a 3rd and paid half his salary.
Oh yeah, hold my beer.
In the final preseason game, I saw our guy Roderick. He played well .... but it was against 2nd and 3rd stringers. I never saw him get embarrassed .... hope they're teaching the hell out of him. I haven't rewatched the game yet, but, considering it was against the Saints, I think there was a slight improvement. Individually, I saw no one dominate, (or even look good), but they should gel with time. How much improvement .... no clue !
Yep I'd like to see Rod out there.
Tweet from @PFF_Texans: Nick Martin signs a big extension, giving the Texans continuity at the center position.
However, Martin had an uneven 2018:
- 1,094 snaps
- 59.3 overall grade (22nd among 39 centers)
- 78.7 pass block (10th)
- 48.8 run block (35th) https://twitter.com/aaronjreiss/status/1171476570688507904
However, Martin had an uneven 2018:
- 1,094 snaps
- 59.3 overall grade (22nd among 39 centers)
- 78.7 pass block (10th)
- 48.8 run block (35th) https://twitter.com/aaronjreiss/status/1171476570688507904
brian Cushing should be made aware of this and put him on a weight, strength program .... Rod too !
You can hate BOB all you want for other reasons but according to chron.com he didn't negotiate the contract. It was Chris Olsen. https://www.chron.com/sports/texans...rtin-3-year-33-million-extension-14428438.php
"A former second-round draft pick from Notre Dame, Martin received $18.35 million guaranteed in the new deal that was negotiated between Texans senior vice president of football administration Chris Olsen and Martin's representatives at Creative Artists Agency."
How much input BOB and Jack Easterby had in the deal I don't know but you have to figure they had some input. Remember, it's a 3-headed GM monster, and 3 heads are better than one! Right!
You can hate BOB all you want for other reasons but according to chron.com he didn't negotiate the contract. It was Chris Olsen. https://www.chron.com/sports/texans...rtin-3-year-33-million-extension-14428438.php
"A former second-round draft pick from Notre Dame, Martin received $18.35 million guaranteed in the new deal that was negotiated between Texans senior vice president of football administration Chris Olsen and Martin's representatives at Creative Artists Agency."
How much input BOB and Jack Easterby had in the deal I don't know but you have to figure they had some input. Remember, it's a 3-headed GM monster, and 3 heads are better than one! Right!
Not this again. Olsen is not a scout. He doesn't know what players are good. He may have been negotiating but I am sure OBrien directed him on how much he was comfortable with paying and knew the final details before they agreed.
No more of this "not my job" crap. OBrien has full control.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
You’re right Olsen is not a scout but where do you keep getting this idea that BoB is a money guy or tries to negotiate contracts? Also why is it we are suppose to believe whatever you post from whichever talking head but when something you don’t believe is reported then it’s not true. There’s that double standard again.
That being said yeah I do think BoB signed off on it.
Ok it was OBrien who has been saying he didn't want to pay clowney what Clowney wanted. O'Brien is the GM now, valuing players is his responsibility.
If he is giving Olsen that responsibility, it makes all this worse, not better.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Didn’t say it made it better and for the record overall I’m against the idea of HC and GM being the same person. It’s works in NE because in reality all BB has to do is keep Brady protected and give him targets that can catch and they’ll win.
Belichick has a lot of help. He may be gm in title but he has a very good analytics guy working for him. He has an OC and a DC. He doesn't call plays.
He knows how to hire and delegate
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Yet you have ranted and raved whenever we have brought some of that help to NE.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Smh We extends Nick Nick Martin
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...ne-day-after-offensive-line-allows-six-sacks/ via http://cbssportsapp.com
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...ne-day-after-offensive-line-allows-six-sacks/ via http://cbssportsapp.com
Like who? We haven't brought anyone since hoyer and mallet
Except you were replying to a thread about last night
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
At least they’re negotiating in season
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
So glad we penny pinched Clowney so we could turn around and give $33M to Nick freaking Martin.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
Tunsil will get the biggest OL contract ever. We traded two 1st round picks for him and cannot let him walk. He knows this, which gives him all the leverage in negotiation.
Somehow or another a week into the season doesn't count. They did the same with Schaub.
cameronkrazie86
Rookie
Lmao at paying Martin the 8th most money of any center in the league when he was the 5th best in the AFC South alone last season. This front office just keeps making one bad deal after another.
Right, but any decent OT that signs the next extension will get the biggest contract ever. Better to sign Tunsil now, before they have to top another contract extension.
But, he’s a good teammate.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
Absolutely. If you know you're going to do it then get out ahead of it and do it early.
AlbertanTexan
Practice Squad
Top dollar for a mediocre C. Yikes.
Martin not off to a good start this year either, on the field that is.
Martin not off to a good start this year either, on the field that is.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
I'd give OB and Devlin's current OL 2 more starts....if nothing changes then it's time to make the changes now, for the future.
LT- Tunsil
LG- Howard
OC- Fulton
RG- Scharping
RT- Johnson
This would be a pathetic set of circumstances considering the money they decided to give Martin.
OB may be taking three tough strikes in WK1. First, the 2 TO gaffe.....not to be confused with a rookie HC mistake. Second, allowing RC to go prevent defense against Brees with 37 seconds on the clock and the Saints still in possesssion of a TO. On a side note.....why in the duck did OB decide to kick the ball into the endzone versus forcing a return to eat up some of the clock at 37 seconds left in the game? On another side note.....when has a RC defense ever made a crucial stop when the team absolutely needed it? Third, extending Martin when the team should've been looking at ways to trade him for another teams BU RT or OG.
LT- Tunsil
LG- Howard
OC- Fulton
RG- Scharping
RT- Johnson
This would be a pathetic set of circumstances considering the money they decided to give Martin.
OB may be taking three tough strikes in WK1. First, the 2 TO gaffe.....not to be confused with a rookie HC mistake. Second, allowing RC to go prevent defense against Brees with 37 seconds on the clock and the Saints still in possesssion of a TO. On a side note.....why in the duck did OB decide to kick the ball into the endzone versus forcing a return to eat up some of the clock at 37 seconds left in the game? On another side note.....when has a RC defense ever made a crucial stop when the team absolutely needed it? Third, extending Martin when the team should've been looking at ways to trade him for another teams BU RT or OG.
AlbertanTexan
Practice Squad
Tunsil wasn't great last night either but is still learning the system. Has good feet. But shudder at what he'll cost