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Blake Bortles

Lots of us called this but hey, he's tall and throws the ball hard. How could he miss?


It’s now clear the Jaguars bungled the Bortles option
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...r-the-jaguars-bungled-the-bortles-option/amp/

It’s now clear the Jaguars regret the decision to exercise the fifth-year option on quarterback Blake Bortles. Which of course makes the original decision even more curious than it was at the time they extended his rookie deal.

It was ultimately a $4 million gamble for the Jaguars. If they didn’t extend the option and if he had played well, it would have cost $23 million to keep him off the market in 2018 via the franchise tag. So they opted instead to give him a $19 million salary in 2018,

It would have been a prudent gamble but for the injury guarantee. With Bortles on the brink of losing the job to Chad Henne, the smart move for the Jaguars would be to keep him off the field completely, the same way Washington did in 2015 with Robert Griffin III. Which means that they’ll pay Bortles $3.4 million to sit, in order to avoid paying him $19 million in the event he suffers an injury that keeps him from passing a physical before the amount becomes fully guaranteed in March.

The Jaguars also could cut Bortles, avoiding the chance of owing him $19 million in 2018. (They won’t escape any of the 2017 base salary, however, because they’re one of the few teams that remove offset language from top-10 deals.) Some have suggested that the Jaguars will try to trade Bortles, but no one will be taking on that contract, unless at a bare minimum Bortles agrees to void the fifth year. His better move would be to refuse to change his deal at all, which would make him a free agent after no team claims his contract in its current form on waivers.

We’ll know for sure that it’s heading this way if the next leak or announcement from Jacksonville is that Bortles won’t play at all in the third preseason game. (The current plan is that he’ll play.) Regardless of whether he’s on the field on Thursday night, the only question left seems to be whether he gets cut or watches every game from the sideline.
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PapaL said:
Lots of us called this but hey, he's tall and throws the ball hard. How could he miss?


It’s now clear the Jaguars bungled the Bortles option
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...r-the-jaguars-bungled-the-bortles-option/amp/
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I'm waiving the white flag on this one man. We argued this one a lot. You won. I'll eat my crow.

Maybe he can turn it around but it doesn't look probable in any way. It's a shame, because I really liked his winning intangibles and clutch genes he had in college. I never liked his arm personally or thought that he threw hard. I liked his size, and felt like his arm needed to improve and thought it would enough to potentially become a Big Ben type of passer.

I'm waiving the white flag on this one man. We argued this one a lot. You won. I'll eat my crow.
 
So the Jags got it wrong not one but two times with Bortles, huh. It's never easy securing ones franchise QB. Usually lots and lots of trial and error on the way to ultimate success. Both us and the Jags among othrs are still in the hunt it would seem.
 
Wasn't Blake Bortles a top 5 QB in fantasy football just two years ago in 2015? He threw for 4,428 passing yards with 35 Touchdown passes. An 88.2 QB rating. How has he become so bad so fast? He's only 25 years old. I actually thought he got snubbed of a Pro Bowl nod that year in favor of Derek Carr, who was an injury replacement.

Most smartly run franchises would have picked up his fifth-year option as well. The kid looked like he was on the cusp of becoming something pretty special. Maybe with better coaching he would have.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
Wasn't Blake Bortles a top 5 QB in fantasy football just two years ago in 2015? He threw for 4,428 passing yards with 35 Touchdown passes. An 88.2 QB rating. How has he become so bad so fast? He's only 25 years old. I actually thought he got snubbed of a Pro Bowl nod that year in favor of Derek Carr, who was an injury replacement.

Most smartly run franchises would have picked up his fifth-year option as well. The kid looked like he was on the cusp of becoming something pretty special. Maybe with better coaching he would have.
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Maybe he just needs the Obrien touch.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
Wasn't Blake Bortles a top 5 QB in fantasy football just two years ago in 2015? He threw for 4,428 passing yards with 35 Touchdown passes. An 88.2 QB rating. How has he become so bad so fast? He's only 25 years old. I actually thought he got snubbed of a Pro Bowl nod that year in favor of Derek Carr, who was an injury replacement.

Most smartly run franchises would have picked up his fifth-year option as well. The kid looked like he was on the cusp of becoming something pretty special. Maybe with better coaching he would have.
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The problem with stats is lack of context. He threw a lot of yards in garbage time, which warps the perception without a clear understanding of what those yards mean.
 
5th year option is only guaranteed for injury. So if you realize your 4th year player that you picked up the 5th year option on is not what you thought/hoped just keep him swaddled in bubble wrap until you can cut him in the off season. Exactly what the R#dsk%ns did with RG3.
 
Fred said:
5th year option is only guaranteed for injury. So if you realize your 4th year player that you picked up the 5th year option on is not what you thought/hoped just keep him swaddled in bubble wrap until you can cut him in the off season. Exactly what the R#dsk%ns did with RG3.
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I expect them to do the same. Henne will be the starter and short of a leg breaking off, possibly with their OL, Blake would be done in JAX. I don't know if there's enough left for him to reclaim what he could have been.
 
Blake Bortles and Chad Henne are currently battling for the Jacksonville Jaguars' starting quarterback job, but team owner Shad Khan reportedly would be open to throwing Colin Kaepernick into the mix as well.

On Thursday, Mike Dempsey of 1010 XL in Jacksonville, Florida, said he asked Khan whether he would be fine signing the former San Francisco 49er "if his football people recommended" it, and Khan replied "absolutely."

Kaepernick—who made headlines last season by kneeling during the national anthem to protest social injustice in the United States—is still unsigned despite previously leading the 49ers to the Super Bowl and throwing 16 touchdowns to just four interceptions last season.http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...om&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
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So looks like there's some chance we could we be seeing Kaepernick in NRG next month.
 
Blake Bortles: I don’t know if it can get any worse than getting benched
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...t-can-get-any-worse-than-getting-benched/amp/

Jaguars quarterback Blake Bortles was demoted on the depth chart this week, coming off the bench in Thursday night’s preseason game for the first time since he was a rookie. He wasn’t happy about that.

“I don’t know if it can get any worse than that,” Bortles said Thursday night. “As a quarterback in the NFL, that’s probably the last thing you want to hear. I think you can roll over and lay down or you can keep working, grinding and trying to win that spot back. So, you have two options and I think you pick one and you go.”

Chad Henne started ahead of Bortles, but Bortles played better than Henne on Thursday and Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said after the game that he still hasn’t decided who his starting quarterback is. Bortles said he tried to do all he can to earn the job back on Thursday night.

“It’s tough. I think you’re getting dealt a certain hand and it’s your decision and you chose to do what you want with it. You can put your head down and continue to work and continue to fight and go out and play. Make each rep you get in practice as meaningful as possible,” Bortles said.

Marrone is running out of time to make a decision. Bortles is hoping he can still do something to turn the tide his way.
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JWLCASPER said:
Bortles has been named starter week 1 against the Texans. Woohoo.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...lake-bortles-named-jaguars-week-1-starting-qb
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Texian said:
Hello???
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Our famed defense couldn't get any pressure against the Jags' O-line yet Bortles could only get 125 yds and the same number of TD passes as Watson, one.

Watson has all of one half of NFL experience and Bortles is going into his fourth year and has one of the best RBs in this draft.

So the "hello" ought to be what the hell happened to our defense? Maybe RAC should go back to the sidelines and Vrabel should get another year of internship.

:)
 
PapaL said:
Do you think Bortles won that game?

11/21 125 yards 1 TD 57.4 QBR 86.4 RTG

Yeah we totally should have drafted him #1.
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ObsiWan said:
Our famed defense couldn't get any pressure against the Jags' O-line yet Bortles could only get 125 yds and the same number of TD passes as Watson, one.

Watson has all of one half of NFL experience and Bortles is going into his fourth year and has one of the best RBs in this draft.

So the "hello" ought to be what the hell happened to our defense? Maybe RAC should go back to the sidelines and Vrabel should get another year of internship.

:)
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santo said:
Bortles still sucks.
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So Let me see if I have this correct. Blake Bortles is a dead QB walking. He has one foot in the grave and is two heart beats from being pronounced DOA. Bortles walks in to NRG Stadium in Houston Texas where he has absolutely no chance whatsoever, in what is also suppose to be the last nail in his coffin. His very first pass to his #1 WR, Allen Robinson and Robinson goes down with a torn ACL (out for the season). Then Bortles goes on to deliver the even more unthinkable, a JAGUARS WIN! Is this about right?

I can't even imagine what kind of effect that would have had on Texans QBs if what happened to Robinson had happened to Nuk.

If this is any consolation, I'm out in Survival Football. I picked the Texans because I thought this was one of their most winnable games on their schedule this season.
 
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santo said:
Our oline also helped them with 10 sacks and 4 turnovers.
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I agree to an extent yeah. Our defense was suppose to be the biggest baddest MF'ers on the field. They got punched in the mouth and run over by Jags run game. Jags literally took our game plan and executed it much better. Limit QB mistakes and play smash mouth football. Maybe we too need a game plan that involves hiding our QB and limiting his throws while running the ball. Clearly our OL can pass block for ****, maybe they should focus on run block this short week. Ugh.

There's a lot of blame to go around; none of which was due to Bortles and his 57.4 QBR.
 
santo said:
They were down 6-0 before Savage started giving gifts to Jacksonville. Blake Bortles didn't "deliver" a win.
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PapaL said:
Fournette won that game. Don't be obtuse.
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Here I fixed it for you:

So Let me see if I have this correct. Blake Bortles is a dead QB walking. He has one foot in the grave and is two heart beats from being pronounced DOA. Bortles walks in to NRG Stadium in Houston Texas where he has absolutely no chance whatsoever, in what is also suppose to be the last nail in his coffin. His very first pass to his #1 WR, Allen Robinson and Robinson goes down with a torn ACL (out for the season). Then Bortles goes on to do the even more unthinkable, he quarterbacks Jacksonville to a JAGUARS WIN! Is this about right?

I can't even imagine what kind of effect that would have had on Texans QBs if what happened to Robinson had happened to Nuk.

If this is any consolation, I'm out in Survival Football. I picked the Texans because I thought this was one of their most winnable games on their schedule this season.
 
Jacksonville wins in Houston despite Bortles. Defense balled out, run game beat us up, and Bortles didn't turn the ball over.
 
Speedy said:
Congratulations. Your boy got his 12th career win in his 4th season. Outstanding.
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First time he's ever beaten the Texans so basically Texian spent most of the pre-2014 draft with "Blake" on his chin and now he's crowing over his boy game managing his way to a win on the back of Fournette and Jacksonville's defense.

Hey, it is entirely possible that Blake Bortles could rise from the ashes to become the league's next Alex Smith. That doesn't exactly inspire me to want a 2014 draft do-over though. Not for him.
 
Texian said:
Here I fixed it for you:

So Let me see if I have this correct. Blake Bortles is a dead QB walking. He has one foot in the grave and is two heart beats from being pronounced DOA. Bortles walks in to NRG Stadium in Houston Texas where he has absolutely no chance whatsoever, in what is also suppose to be the last nail in his coffin. His very first pass to his #1 WR, Allen Robinson and Robinson goes down with a torn ACL (out for the season). Then Bortles goes on to do the even more unthinkable, he quarterbacks Jacksonville to a JAGUARS WIN! Is this about right?

I can't even imagine what kind of effect that would have had on Texans QBs if what happened to Robinson had happened to Nuk.

If this is any consolation, I'm out in Survival Football. I picked the Texans because I thought this was one of their most winnable games on their schedule this season.
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lol, dude tossed his first TD ever in NRG in 4 years & passed for a whole 125 yds....& u in here ready to crown him. This is why noone takes you seriously.


Oh & for the record our rookie qb put up those same numbers in a 1/2 of football....in nearly the same circumstances.
 
Mr teX said:
lol, dude tossed his first TD ever in NRG in 4 years & passed for a whole 125 yds....& u in here ready to crown him. This is why noone takes you seriously.


Oh & for the record our rookie qb put up those same numbers in a 1/2 of football....in nearly the same circumstances.
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Nope, I'm not ready to crown him, just doing some bottom fishing and having some fun with some real cheap bait. Do not despair, from the many comments in this thread there is plenty of embarrassment to go around. I'm not sure there is enough Come Back to Bite Me in Butt ointment to address all the those bitten butts though.
 
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Our oline also helped them with 10 sacks and 4 turnovers.
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So Bortles is doing what we've wanted our QB to do for the last 4 years... lean on an aggressive defense & strong run game, and don't do anything to lose the game?
 
Hervoyel said:
First time he's ever beaten the Texans so basically Texian spent most of the pre-2014 draft with "Blake" on his chin and now he's crowing over his boy game managing his way to a win on the back of Fournette and Jacksonville's defense.

Hey, it is entirely possible that Blake Bortles could rise from the ashes to become the league's next Alex Smith. That doesn't exactly inspire me to want a 2014 draft do-over though. Not for him.
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If he hasn't been ruined, Blake now has an opportunity to really learn how to play the game instead of taking low percentage chances & trying to do too much. That's if Jacksonville is really #Sacksonville & Fournette holds up.
 
Hervoyel said:
First time he's ever beaten the Texans so basically Texian spent most of the pre-2014 draft with "Blake" on his chin and now he's crowing over his boy game managing his way to a win on the back of Fournette and Jacksonville's defense.

Hey, it is entirely possible that Blake Bortles could rise from the ashes to become the league's next Alex Smith. That doesn't exactly inspire me to want a 2014 draft do-over though. Not for him.
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Not crowing at all. All I did was say hello??? You know a lot folks have attacked and been very disparaging towards me. I just figured what is good for the goose is good for the gander. I suggest you read the last 10 pages for a better perspective and clearer picture.
 
When the defense doesn't come near you, you can probably complete 52% and throw for 125 yards in a game. Even Osweiler did that once or twice.
 
Texian said:
Not crowing at all. All I did was say hello??? You know a lot folks have attacked and been very disparaging towards me. I just figured what is good for the goose is good for the gander. I suggest you read the last 10 pages for a better perspective and clearer picture.
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Over your position on Bortles I don't doubt it. It was goddamn insufferable listening to you before that draft. If there's an over-the-top amount of backlash about it maybe you should go back over your posting history on the subject and work out why that is.

Doesn't matter. It's all water under the bridge now. I hope he does OK (but not at our expense of course) and I don't see any reason why he can't be another Alex Smith. Give any reasonable QB a RB like Leonard Fournette, decent protection, and a good defense and there's no reason they couldn't do what Smith has done.

The one thing about that Jaguars victory that I couldn't shake is how much it looked like a Giants beat down of the Texans when Coughlin was in New York. Just ran over us on offense and tore us up with a vicious pass rush. We're going to rue the day that Tom Coughlin returned to Jacksonville. Of that I'm certain.
 
Hervoyel said:
The one thing about that Jaguars victory that I couldn't shake is how much it looked like a Giants beat down of the Texans when Coughlin was in New York. Just ran over us on offense and tore us up with a vicious pass rush. We're going to rue the day that Tom Coughlin returned to Jacksonville. Of that I'm certain.
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Imagine had we invest in our OL the way Jville did.
 
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