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Who would you trade JJ Watt for? QB

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Even if you could trade JJ, the only person on this list would probably be Luck?

2014 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 3 Blake Bortles QB Central Florida Jacksonville Jaguars
1 22 Johnny Manziel QB Texas A&M Cleveland Browns
1 32 Teddy Bridgewater QB Louisville Minnesota Vikings
2 36 Derek Carr QB Fresno State Oakland Raiders
2 62 Jimmy Garoppolo QB Eastern Illinois New England Patriots
4 120 Logan Thomas QB Virginia Tech Arizona Cardinals
4 135 Tom Savage QB Pittsburgh Houston Texans
5 163 Aaron Murray QB Georgia Kansas City Chiefs
5 164 AJ McCarron QB Alabama Cincinnati Bengals
6 178 Zach Mettenberger QB LSU Tennessee Titans
6 183 David Fales QB San Jose State Chicago Bears
6 194 Keith Wenning QB Ball State Baltimore Ravens
6 213 Tajh Boyd QB Clemson New York Jets
6 214 Garrett Gilbert QB Southern Methodist St. Louis Rams
2013 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 16 EJ Manuel QB Florida State Buffalo Bills
2 39 Geno Smith QB West Virginia New York Jets
3 73 Mike Glennon QB North Carolina State Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4 98 Matt Barkley QB USC Philadelphia Eagles
4 110 Ryan Nassib QB Syracuse New York Giants
4 112 Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas Oakland Raiders
4 115 Landry Jones QB Oklahoma Pittsburgh Steelers
7 221 Brad Sorensen QB Southern Utah San Diego Chargers
7 234 Zac Dysert QB Miami (Ohio) Denver Broncos
7 237 B.J. Daniels QB South Florida San Francisco 49ers
7 249 Sean Renfree QB Duke Atlanta Falcons
2012 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 1 Andrew Luck QB Stanford Indianapolis Colts
1 2 Robert Griffin QB Baylor Washington Redskins
1 8 Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M Miami Dolphins
1 22 Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State Cleveland Browns
2 57 Brock Osweiler QB Arizona State Denver Broncos
3 75 Russell Wilson QB Wisconsin Seattle Seahawks
3 88 Nick Foles QB Arizona Philadelphia Eagles
4 102 Kirk Cousins QB Michigan State Washington Redskins
6 185 Ryan Lindley QB San Diego State Arizona Cardinals
7 243 B.J. Coleman QB Tennessee-Chattanooga Green Bay Packers
7 253 Chandler Harnish QB Northern Illinois Indianapolis Colts
2011 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 1 Cam Newton QB Auburn Carolina Panthers
1 8 Jake Locker QB Washington Tennessee Titans
1 10 Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri Jacksonville Jaguars
1 12 Christian Ponder QB Florida State Minnesota Vikings
2 35 Andy Dalton QB Texas Christian Cincinnati Bengals
2 36 Colin Kaepernick QB Nevada-Reno San Francisco 49ers
3 74 Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas New England Patriots
5 135 Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa Kansas City Chiefs
5 152 T.J Yates QB North Carolina Houston Texans
5 160 Nathan Enderle QB Idaho Chicago Bears
6 180 Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech Baltimore Ravens
7 208 Greg McElroy QB Alabama New York Jets
2010 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 1 Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma St. Louis Rams
1 25 Tim Tebow QB Florida Denver Broncos
2 48 Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame Carolina Panthers
3 85 Colt McCoy QB Texas Cleveland Browns
4 122 Mike Kafka QB Northwestern Philadelphia Eagles
5 155 John Skelton QB Fordham Arizona Cardinals
5 168 Jonathan Crompton QB Tennessee San Diego Chargers
6 176 Rusty Smith QB Florida Atlantic Tennessee Titans
6 181 Dan LeFevour QB Central Michigan Chicago Bears
6 199 Joe Webb QB Alabama-Birmingham Minnesota Vikings
6 204 Tony Pike QB Cincinnati Carolina Panthers
7 209 Levi Brown QB Troy Buffalo Bills
7 239 Sean Canfield QB Oregon State New Orleans Saints
7 250 Zac Robinson QB Oklahoma State New England Patriots
2009 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 1 Matthew Stafford QB Georgia Detroit Lions
1 5 Mark Sanchez QB USC New York Jets
1 17 Josh Freeman QB Kansas State Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2 44 Pat White QB West Virginia Miami Dolphins
4 101 Stephen McGee QB Texas A&M Dallas Cowboys
5 151 Rhett Bomar QB Sam Houston State New York Giants
5 171 Nate Davis QB Ball State San Francisco 49ers
6 174 Tom Brandstater QB Fresno State Denver Broncos
6 178 Mike Teel QB Rutgers Seattle Seahawks
6 196 Keith Null QB West Texas A&M St. Louis Rams
6 201 Curtis Painter QB Purdue Indianapolis Colts
 
After the season, for the #1.1 pick if we don't already have it. And draft a QB.
 
We wouldn't trade jj watt for anything short of a young or prime age franchise qb, and no team is trading their young franchise qb for Watt.
 
A metric sh.it ton of picks. Seriously we could get a minimum of 4 firsts and a large amount of other picks as well
 
If the 2011 draft were held again today, with teams having 20/20 hindsight to this point, 31/32 teams would pick Cam Newton #1 overall.
 
eriadoc said:
If the 2011 draft were held again today, with teams having 20/20 hindsight to this point, 31/32 teams would pick Cam Newton #1 overall.
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Are you saying the Texans would be the only team not to?

;)
 
I wouldn't trade Watt for any QB right now maybe only Luck Rodgers and Brady but only if its with NO 1 picks

bottom line tho Rodgers is older brady is really older u would have to take the gamble that there game wont go downhill from here on out

we need to find the next Rodgers the next brady and u can only get those in the Draft a young Draft QB

but to answer your question

I would trade watt for Brady and two No1 Picks and a No 2 and NO 3 pick
 
The point I'm trying to make here, is that the QB talent coming out of colleges right now is like a soup kitchen.. I'm not sure anyone that has needed a QB for their team has really found one in the draft.
 
Let's change the question to one with a more practical premise: What's more available to acquire, the possibly greatest defensive player in league history, or a competent staff that can build a functioning team around him?

The right staff is abundantly available if you know how to find them. We shouldn't ever be having a conversation about trading a player like JJ.
 
Brisco_County said:
Let's change the question to one with a more practical premise: What's more available to acquire, the possibly greatest defensive player in league history, or a competent staff that can build a functioning team around him?

The right staff is abundantly available if you know how to find them. We shouldn't ever be having a conversation about trading a player like JJ.
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that's why I think Rick smiths Seat has to be melting in lava if this season goes off the rails I really hope Smith gets fired in wk 10 or wk 14 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

tell me tho do u have a problem with Bill o Breins Offesnsive scheme or Cernnals Def ..????
 
Norg said:
that's why I think Rick smiths Seat has to be melting in lava if this season goes off the rails I really hope Smith gets fired in wk 10 or wk 14 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

tell me tho do u have a problem with Bill o Breins Offesnsive scheme or Cernnals Def ..????
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I have to admit to being confused about Crennel's scheming, so I can't comment on that. I think O'Brien is a good coach who makes terrible personnel decisions. That eventually rolls up to Rick, so he needs to take control of this disaster.
 
Who would I trade Watt for ?! .... Aaron Rodgers , no one else. Oh and I want the entire GB coaching staff & front office in the deal.
 
Corrosion said:
Who would I trade Watt for ?! .... Aaron Rodgers , no one else. Oh and I want the entire GB coaching staff & front office in the deal.
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Honestly, I would trade J.J. Watt straight up for Rodgers. I probably would even throw in a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Aaron Rodgers makes average teams elite. This team is terrible with Watt, I doubt it would be with Rodgers. The only other player I would contemplate trading Watt for is Andrew Luck.
 
If you're being serious you can imagine trading JJ for a good backup (Mettenberger) a couple other starting quality players (like one of the two RBs that gashed us yesterday) and a couple draft picks (2nd and 2nd).

The truth about JJ is that he's great and utterly wasted on this team. He has to be traded to a contender, which limits the possibilities.
 
Can we stop this already, it's absolutely 110% impossible, never going to happen. Well, not in the next 5 years anyway.
 
Huge fan of JJ and he's hands down the best defensive player I've had the pleasure of watching, but it would be difficult to find a GM that wouldn't trade Watt for Rodgers. You take Rogers away from Green Bay and replace him with Watt, and they're not anywhere close to being the undefeated team they are. And if Rodgers was on this team instead of Watt, we would be an automatic playoff team every year for the next 4-5 seasons.
 
Anyone saying they wouldn't trade Watt for a franchise QB right now needs to stop complaining about losing. Having a franchise DE is not nearly as valuable as a franchise QB. NO position in the NFL is, so lets get that straight right now.

If guys would rather have Watt after what we've seen this year, and the 2-14 season then clearly they don't learn a thing which is not a surprise. Look at how many clowns wanted us to pay AJ 14 mill this year just because he was AJ and then have the audacity to ***** when we aren't winning after saying something like that.

I love Watt and we won't ever trade him, but if we had an elite QB on the table that deal would be soooo done.
 
That deal is never going to be on the table. JJ's still pretty young (it's only his 5th season) but even so nobody is going to trade you a franchise QB for him. Nobody who has one will part with him and that leaves nothing but "potentials".

We can get potential franchise QB's without parting with JJ. We're going to be in a position to draft one after this season. We were in a position to draft one last year and the year before. This is not some kind of rare occurrence.

In theory we have what O'Brien may consider a potential franchise QB in Tom Savage. Now I don't really care if "you" (meaning anyone reading this) think that is ludicrous or not. Bill O'Brien passed on a whole bunch of other prospects and took Savage and he has hung on to him and appears to think he's progressing. The biggest sign that he seems ot be developing Savage or simply treading water until someone he has his eye on becomes available is that he's done nothing to address the problem but bring in guys that most folks dismiss out of hand as a solution.

Fitz? Nobody thought he'd be here more than a year or two.
Mallett? He only played him because Fitz left him no choice if you think about it.
Hoyer? Everybody saw that one coming and nobody understood why he'd think that Hoyer was an upgrade over Mallett.

He's waiting on something and that's either for a QB to appear that he thinks he must have or for the one he's working on to be ready.

O'Brien once said he didn't think there was a lot that separated the QB's in that draft and so he thinks (or thought) that Tom Savage isn't much of a drop off from Bortles, Manziel, Bridgewater, Carr, Garappolo, or any of the others. 14 QB's taken in that draft and O'Brien needed a QB badly. He could have had any of them but he waited around and took Savage. I think he thought Clowney was a better 1st overall than Bortles would have been and I don't think he cared much for Manziel or Bridgewater. Not enough to go out of his way to get one. The Texans went out of their way to snap up Xavier Sua Filo and Louis Nix III in that draft but didn't really make any effort to get into position to grab a QB. He didn't do it this past year either. 7 more taken (granted we had no shot at the first two) and O'Brien didn't see a single one he liked enough to draft that year.

No doubt we go QB in 2016. If we don't then he's starting Savage.
 
Afraid you are way too generous to OB. Even dolts such as myself think Savage is the best of our lot. But to imagine that he's as good as the others you mention is . . . well, it's very generous to Bill O'Brien. I think O'Brien's out of his depth and will continue to fail. With any luck he's replaced in off season. Along with various others, the likely suspects.
 
Honestly look at the last 5 years of drafts how many franchise QB's do you see in it maybe 3, it's tough going of late from all the college football spread crap that coaches keep calling all the adjustments from the side lines and noone ever learns how to play QB anymore.
 
I'd be intrigued by a quarterback like Cam Newton but I often wonder how good he's going to be for the long haul. When his athleticism isn't there can he thrive as a pure pocket passer? Guys like Superman, I mean err, Cam Newton, are great while they're young but once they age it's dicey.

Would I trade our Superman in J.J. Watt for a Superman that plays quarterback like Cam Newton? I'd be tempted but Watt is still the best player in the NFL. He just doesn't impact the game for four quarters like a quarterback can.

As in that TD he had against us. Only so much Watt can do. He's one player on the other side of the field. Only so much Watt can do when he's not on the other side of the field to stop the play. Just set up the play to go in the opposite direction as Watt and you can take him out of a big play. Cam Newton's vision and athleticism is impossible to stop on that Touchdown leap.


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Super Watt and Super Cam. Superman A and Superman B.

I love watching both players. I wish Cam Newton was our QB.
In a perfect world we would have both players and we'd be legit.
 
Mollywhopper said:
Rodgers, Luck, Wilson, and I'd seriously consider Mariota.
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The problem with Russell Wilson is he's getting sacked at a high rate this season. On pace to be sacked close to 70 times (72 to be exact) which is close to David Carr's all-time record of 76 times sacked in 2002 with the Texans. And the Seahawks offensive line doesn't strike me as bad as the Texans historically awful O-Line was in 2002. That was an expansion team with some rookies starting up front.

He's a really small dude and will get hurt eventually if he keeps getting hit. He's a great passer with nice touch and accuracy outside the pocket. Russell Wilson, to his credit, is the best passer on the run in the league.

I'm nervous he's not going to be that good in the long run if he doesn't improve as a pocket passer. Cam Newton, on the other hand, is big and strong, more athletic than Russell Wilson also. If they switched places the Seahawks would probably have two Super Bowl rings (winning the last two) and the Panthers would still be good but not as exciting.

The Panthers don't have the offensive weapons that the Seahawks have and still they are 4-0. If you gave Cam Newton talent like Marshawn Lynch (when healthy). Jimmy Graham and some of those speedster receivers the Seahawks have he would put up all pro numbers. That would seem like a pro bowl team.

If I had a choice I'd probably take Cam Newton over Russell Wilson. If I had to trade J.J. Watt for one I'd trade him for Cam Newton and not Russell Wilson. I just feel like Cam Newton on the Texans would win games. Russell Wilson on the Texans would get hurt and sacked a ton.
 
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Afraid you are way too generous to OB. Even dolts such as myself think Savage is the best of our lot. But to imagine that he's as good as the others you mention is . . . well, it's very generous to Bill O'Brien. I think O'Brien's out of his depth and will continue to fail. With any luck he's replaced in off season. Along with various others, the likely suspects.
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I didn't say I thought that he was or that O'Brien was right. I just said that the signs (what few there are) kind of point to him either thinking none of those QB's are anything special or that the one he got is in the same general "range" as the rest of them. I think all of them are kind of nothing special personally and he's got one of those nothing special guys on his team in Savage.

I thought it was kind of critical of Bill O'Brien to be honest. I guess it didn't come across as I intended (it happens).
 
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Hervoyel said:
That deal is never going to be on the table. JJ's still pretty young (it's only his 5th season) but even so nobody is going to trade you a franchise QB for him. Nobody who has one will part with him and that leaves nothing but "potentials".

We can get potential franchise QB's without parting with JJ. We're going to be in a position to draft one after this season. We were in a position to draft one last year and the year before. This is not some kind of rare occurrence.

In theory we have what O'Brien may consider a potential franchise QB in Tom Savage. Now I don't really care if "you" (meaning anyone reading this) think that is ludicrous or not. Bill O'Brien passed on a whole bunch of other prospects and took Savage and he has hung on to him and appears to think he's progressing. The biggest sign that he seems ot be developing Savage or simply treading water until someone he has his eye on becomes available is that he's done nothing to address the problem but bring in guys that most folks dismiss out of hand as a solution.

Fitz? Nobody thought he'd be here more than a year or two.
Mallett? He only played him because Fitz left him no choice if you think about it.
Hoyer? Everybody saw that one coming and nobody understood why he'd think that Hoyer was an upgrade over Mallett.

He's waiting on something and that's either for a QB to appear that he thinks he must have or for the one he's working on to be ready.

O'Brien once said he didn't think there was a lot that separated the QB's in that draft and so he thinks (or thought) that Tom Savage isn't much of a drop off from Bortles, Manziel, Bridgewater, Carr, Garappolo, or any of the others. 14 QB's taken in that draft and O'Brien needed a QB badly. He could have had any of them but he waited around and took Savage. I think he thought Clowney was a better 1st overall than Bortles would have been and I don't think he cared much for Manziel or Bridgewater. Not enough to go out of his way to get one. The Texans went out of their way to snap up Xavier Sua Filo and Louis Nix III in that draft but didn't really make any effort to get into position to grab a QB. He didn't do it this past year either. 7 more taken (granted we had no shot at the first two) and O'Brien didn't see a single one he liked enough to draft that year.

No doubt we go QB in 2016. If we don't then he's starting Savage.
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Maybe OB isn't that great of a talent evaluator and is waiting on the next Tom Brady to fall in his lap?
All in all, I think the team and the fanbase would be a lot happeir, for lack of a better word, if the Texans were trotting out a young QB and going through the growing pains instead of watching the growing pains of two NE castoffs.
 
DocBar said:
Maybe OB isn't that great of a talent evaluator and is waiting on the next Tom Brady to fall in his lap?
All in all, I think the team and the fanbase would be a lot happeir, for lack of a better word, if the Texans were trotting out a young QB and going through the growing pains instead of watching the growing pains of two NE castoffs.
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& I don't understand that. Tom Brady is playing better than he's ever played before. I could see if his skills were diminishing, like Montanas... but they're not.

We got Ryan Mallett, all the first round measurables, & three years "studying" & to me, not taking an NFL snap before getting here is a good thing. Bad habits have not had time to set in.

If there was a guy in the 2014 draft that had all the measurables, I could understand. But there wasn't. We got him cheap.. we're not tied to him beyond this season if we don't want to be.

If New England had draft Garopolo four years ago & we got him the same way we got Mallett, would anyone be upset?

Bringing Bryan Hoyer in as anything other than an emergency back up... I can understand being upset about that. I'm upset about that. It should have been Mallett from the beginning of OTAs, with Savage ready to take his spot if need be. Then Hoyer... in case of extreme emergency. But with the money they paid him, the money they threw away on Fitz, you just knew that wasn't going to happen.
 
DocBar said:
Maybe OB isn't that great of a talent evaluator and is waiting on the next Tom Brady to fall in his lap?
All in all, I think the team and the fanbase would be a lot happeir, for lack of a better word, if the Texans were trotting out a young QB and going through the growing pains instead of watching the growing pains of two NE castoffs.
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To me , Bill is like Kubiak in it's the system and he just needs one major piece .He gets that component and he doesn't need all them high picks because his scheme , ran at a high tempo is potent . One problem is it appears that the WRs need a PHD to figure it out and they have to practice better and be swell fellas . That makes him Chip Kelly in the tempo is just as important as the scheme . I think that it takes more than working hard and being a good teammate , it helps to have talent .

I also think Bill screwed himself or someone above him cut him off at the knees with the benching of Hoyer . Somebody hit the panic button when the fans showed little tolerance and began booing and the team became vaginally enhanced .
 
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The problem with Russell Wilson is he's getting sacked at a high rate this season. On pace to be sacked close to 70 times (72 to be exact) which is close to David Carr's all-time record of 76 times sacked in 2002 with the Texans. And the Seahawks offensive line doesn't strike me as bad as the Texans historically awful O-Line was in 2002. That was an expansion team with some rookies starting up front.

He's a really small dude and will get hurt eventually if he keeps getting hit. He's a great passer with nice touch and accuracy outside the pocket. Russell Wilson, to his credit, is the best passer on the run in the league.
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Sacks have only been a problem for Wilson this year and no coincidence that everyone talked about oline concerns for Seattle going into this season, especially losing their center. So it's not as if this is a chronic problem for him and would follow him around the league. And if you've watched him play the sacks he takes are generally not of the standing tall and getting clobbered variety, it's usually more of an evasive going with the defender ala Barry Sanders. Accumulative hits are never good, but Wilson isn't exactly taking a beating even with this years anomolous sack numbers.

I'm nervous he's not going to be that good in the long run if he doesn't improve as a pocket passer. Cam Newton, on the other hand, is big and strong, more athletic than Russell Wilson also. If they switched places the Seahawks would probably have two Super Bowl rings (winning the last two) and the Panthers would still be good but not as exciting.

The Panthers don't have the offensive weapons that the Seahawks have and still they are 4-0. If you gave Cam Newton talent like Marshawn Lynch (when healthy). Jimmy Graham and some of those speedster receivers the Seahawks have he would put up all pro numbers. That would seem like a pro bowl team.

If I had a choice I'd probably take Cam Newton over Russell Wilson. If I had to trade J.J. Watt for one I'd trade him for Cam Newton and not Russell Wilson. I just feel like Cam Newton on the Texans would win games. Russell Wilson on the Texans would get hurt and sacked a ton.
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I'm honestly unsure how much you've watched of either guy. Wilson throws well from the pocket. That's not even a knock you here from anyone about him anymore. He's used on the run a lot because he's mobile and it works and they try and execute a lot of misdirection there. Meanwhile Newton is still pretty renowned for not being the most gifted QB above the neck. He's built like Adonis, sure, but he's a few chess pieces short of Bobby Fischer upstairs. When things happen quick on the field I can count on Wilson to stay calm and execute, in or out of the pocket, and also make the odd play with his feet. When things happen quick for Cam I have to call a TO and then hope he can still make the right read. And then even for all of his physical gifts hope he doesn't make a poor throw because his mechanics get squirrely.

I get that big and strong is alluring, it's going to make Cardale Jones a very rich and disappointing QB. But I'll take the smaller guy who thinks much more quickly and still offers an array of tools in his box to pull from. Anyone else can have the guy who insists on telling us he's Superman but hasn't done a whole lot to prove it.
 
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Who would I trade Watt for ?! .... Aaron Rodgers , no one else. Oh and I want the entire GB coaching staff & front office in the deal.
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This, and only this, as far as I'm concerned. Even the greatest defensive player on the planet cannot stop a team from being 2-14 (same for greatest WR in the league in 2005).

But an elite QB like Rodgers? Easily makes mediocre teams good and good teams great.
 
u think JJ watt will retire a Texans or stay with this team his hole career ..???
 
The more I watch our season sink down the toilet the more i'm willing to trade JJ. I just dont want our current talent evaluators ******* up the picks we'd get.
 
if this season tanks DO u think those teams will actually give up those picks or players for JJ think about it ....... : P
 
Norg said:
u think JJ watt will retire a Texans or stay with this team his hole career ..???
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Meh, this is just one poster's opinion, but I don't really care. I hope Watt stays with us and is a superstar for as long as possible. BUT, these guys are making money and the time will probably come when he can make more than he is still worth with some other sucker team. Nobody is great forever, but their reputation gets them money for a few more years. I wish AJ was still as great as he ever was and still a Texan, but I don't wish we'd paid him $14 million. More power to him for ripping off the Colts...
 
Norg said:
u think JJ watt will retire a Texans or stay with this team his hole career ..???
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Meaning JJ will go to another team and come back on a one day contract to retire as a Texan? Otherwise, this post is a waste of space and time.
 
As great as JJ is, you couldn't even get stafford for him. If i couldnt get goff, i would trade a mid rd pick for a guy like ej manuel if buffalo is sold on taylor. I dont like much in college past goff and maybe the usc guy who is probably a 2nd rd guy.
 
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As great as JJ is, you couldn't even get stafford for him. If i couldnt get goff, i would trade a mid rd pick for a guy like ej manuel if buffalo is sold on taylor. I dont like much in college past goff and maybe the usc guy who is probably a 2nd rd guy.
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I look at the bolded and I think about taking JJ where we took him, and not trading up a little and getting Bridgewater, and all the other times we didn't think this QB or that QB was worth the pick. Seems to me that an argument could be made that no non-QB is worth a 1st round pick at all. Why take a non-QB with a first round pick when no non-QB can even stop your team from going 2-14? I guess there are times when you just don't see any QB in the whole draft worth taking?

What if we had moved up and taken Bridgewater? OK, not the right fit for our offense. He is still tradable and still better than what we have. What if we did that kind of thing until somebody worked out? We could trade QBs we no longer need. In a way, never taking a risk on a QB is like giving up. You know you're not going anyway without one, yet you just keep taking DEs and OLBs. Seems to defy logic.
 
Wouldn't go that far but we have had 14 drafts. Twice effectively we looked high at QB. Give 'em 2 years experimenting with Carr and 5 years of pre-injury Schaub. The other 7 years we should have been looking high at QBs. Instead we wasted an extra 3 years on Carr, 2 on injured Schaub and 2 on WTF.

And of course if we had dumped Carr after either 2 or 3 years we might have never needed Schaub (or hell Schaub might have been our replacement in 2004 for a 3rd).
 
infantrycak said:
Wouldn't go that far but we have had 14 drafts. Twice effectively we looked high at QB. Give 'em 2 years experimenting with Carr and 5 years of pre-injury Schaub. The other 7 years we should have been looking high at QBs. Instead we wasted an extra 3 years on Carr, 2 on injured Schaub and 2 on WTF.

And of course if we had dumped Carr after either 2 or 3 years we might have never needed Schaub (or hell Schaub might have been our replacement in 2004 for a 3rd).
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I do have a tendency to exagerate, but at least we agree that this organization needs to be more aggressive about finding one. Sometimes it just seems like we are on the 30 year plan (or more) of waiting to go 2-14 (legitimately) in just the right year.
 
HJam72 said:
never taking a risk on a QB is like giving up.
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And there it is. Someone send O'Brien a memo.

Im totally in favor of your opinion on quarterbacks...just a bit more of a mild version then you presented. Keep a stream of qb talent on hand by drafting one every 2-3 years (rds2-4 maybe.)

Busts are discarded faster wasting less time, qbs with talent are always a commodity and can be cashed into other teams for a return, and just maybe we finally find a franchise guy. Even if the guys we draft are average theyre on rookie contracts and cheaper then average vets. If nothing else it would up the odds of accidentally finding a great one.

I know people will say you cant use so many picks on qbs because your neglecting talent in the draft at other positions...fellas, we've wasted so many 2-4th rd picks from day one i dont see it as a loss.
 
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