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So .... Who's your QB in 2014 ?! - [edit] Mallett?

I think teams feel the 1.1 needs to be a player with a high floor, high ceiling and minimal risk. I don't see that with any of the QBs or with Clowney. Obviously the interview process is very important, I think especially in Clowney's case. How well or how poorly he interviewed, we simply don't know.

How well Romeo and the gang feel Clowney fits, not sure of that either. They may say he fits great and all that, but who know how much is just draft talk. Clowney seems to best suited as DE in a 40 front. With what I've seen and heard so far from Clowney in terms of his interviews and such, it would be very difficult pulling the trigger at the 1.1. But it's still early.

I think Watkins, Matthews and Robinson are much safer 1.1 picks. Texans are vested in Duane Brown long term, doubt they want to go OT at 1.1

Unless they fall in love with one of these QBs, or Clowney erases any doubts, I see them trading down.
 
thunderkyss said:
You're not saying that you'd be fine if we didn't draft a QB in the first three rounds are you? ... Keenum & Yates can not be our only shot at a future starting QB for this team.
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A bit inconsistent, aren't you? At post #582 you wrote:
...The only reason to like the idea of a Mallet trade is that OB would have to sign off on it. If he does, then we're assuming he knows something that we don't....
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So you're OK with OB signing off on Mallet but not OK with OB signing off on Keenum?

We're going to have several days (maximum 16) of stage 2 pre-season workout prior to the draft. So besides film study, OB will get a good look at what Keenum and Yates have, on the field. If OB is OK with Keenum, then I'm OK. I've been saying for some time that if OB likes what he sees in Keenum, or Yates, then this is the best case scenario for our filling our other needs in the draft.
 
Number19 said:
So you're OK with OB signing off on Mallet but not OK with OB signing off on Keenum?

We're going to have several days (maximum 16) of stage 2 pre-season workout prior to the draft. So besides film study, OB will get a good look at what Keenum and Yates have, on the field. If OB is OK with Keenum, then I'm OK. I've been saying for some time that if OB likes what he sees in Keenum, or Yates, then this is the best case scenario for our filling our other needs in the draft.
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I'm not ok with Mallet & no Keenum. I'm not ok with Keenum alone. I want a new prospect + our current prospect..... either Keenum or Yates.

Not Keenum & Yates.

If we get Cassell/Vick, I want 3rd rounder + Keenum/Yates
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm not ok with Mallet & no Keenum. I'm not ok with Keenum alone. I want a new prospect + our current prospect..... either Keenum or Yates.

Not Keenum & Yates.

If we get Cassell/Vick, I want 3rd rounder + Keenum/Yates
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Depending on who's there in the 3rd I could get on board with this. Murray
 
O'Brien watching Pitt QB Tom Savage

Tony Pauline ‏@TonyPauline · 25m
Houston Texas coach Bill O'Brien at Pittsburgh pro-day for QB Tom Savage...requested Savage throw specific routes at the end of workout...
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Bringing over from another thread, Mallett talk heating up...

...make a trade or sign a free agent that has spent time in that particular system. If the Texans go that route, I see that as a stopgap until a young QB can take over. But, Brian Hoyer, Ryan Mallett and Matt Cassel all fall into that category. Neither of those options are mind-blowing, but I don’t mind taking a shot on Hoyer or Mallett at a fair price. The Patriots took Mallett with the sole purpose of “spinning” him later, so that’ll probably cost the Texans a second round pick, I’d imagine.
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Patriots QB Ryan Mallett just 'OK' at Arkansas Pro Day
Taking advantage of an NFL rule which allows former players to either throw or catch passes at a Pro Day should the team need it, former Arkansas quarterback Ryan Mallett shed his New England Patriots uniform for a day and threw to a collection of Razorbacks attempting to join him in the NFL.

Mallett, a 6-foot-7, 225 pound gunslinger with a first-round arm, is entering the final year of his rookie contract with the Patriots and is a source of frequent trade speculation. He certainly had an audience during Wednesday's Pro Day. According to the Razorbacks' official athletics website, representatives of all 32 teams attended the workout.
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Mallett's performance was described as simply "OK" from a source who attended the workout. Mallett's time in the NFL has not translated into a better build. He remains gangly and looked "weak physically." Despite his less-than-ideal build, Mallett remains a talented thrower. His most impressive passes on the day, according to the source, were deep outs and go routes -- two of the more valued throws in today's NFL.
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Justis Mosqueda ‏@JuMosq
I've tweeted it like five times. RT @Ethanhamm I'll be honest. I thought the Mallett/second offer was turned down thing was common knowledge

What's kinda crazy is that HOU wouldn't need a QB if E.J. Manuel would have slipped to #27. Sounded like CIN loved him at #21, too.

If the Mallett traded did happen, St. Louis is going to be pissed. Who's trying to trade to #2 if Clowney isn't there?

His contract will be getting worked out after the trade terms are agreed upon, but before it's sent to the league. How these things work.

There's implied trade and signings. RT @Jimswim11 @JuMosq last year of mallets contract so I don't think any team will go with a 2nd

Denver offered Tebow and a 2nd for him at one point. RT @NFLDraft2K14 @JuMosq Do you know how long ago they turned down 2nd rounders?

I think 33 would get it done. RT @scott_thrill @JuMosq how much do you think Bill could command in a trade with HOU?

It's going to take that. I wonder what he'd get if he hit FA.

So, yeah. Those are my thought on Mallett. People think it's crazy to trade high picks for someone who's throw 4 passes since '11. But...

Awesome. RT @Ethanhamm I can confirm @JuMosq's statement about the Patriots turning down a Mallett for 2nd trade.

It'll be interesting. I think Mallett takes at least a second to move. Look at the second round QBs in this class, do you think he's better?

Remember, some people thought he was the most talented QB in the class, just his off-field got in the way. Now that's "gone". So what now?

People like to ask what he's done since he left Arkansas...the fact that he's been able to keep himself out of trouble is huge.

Then there's the rumors about supposed trades in the past. From two sources, I have heard they have turned down a second for him, twice.

Scout I know was very close the Penn State program. Said Bill O'Brien absolutely loved Mallett.
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Playoffs said:
Now this: Texans Pushing Hard For Mallett

after this: Report: A Team Is Pushing Hard To Acquire Mallett

which may be just an extension of the Twitter chatter posted above or originating it as the owner/editor of the website posting the rumors are in Boston/New England.
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O'Brien has got three QBs with real game experience on the roster and he have yet to evaluate them in his system.

Mallett has completed one, count 'em ONE, pass in a real NFL game.

If I were O'Brien, I'd see what I had in Yates (now there's a name rarely uttered now days) and Keenum and maybe even Schaub before I start offering up first day picks to N.E.

I could stomach drafting a Bridgewater at 1-1 before I'd give up a 2nd rounder for Mallett.

Again, that's just me.
 
I'd go FA before trading for a QB. Kellen Clemens, 31, is available, with a career QB rating of 68.6, but last year had a rating of 78.8.

But the one I'd target is Tyler, Texas native, Matt Flynn, 29, who has a career QB rating of 88.3 (85.7 last year). I'd try to sign him to a 2 year contract (max 3 years).

I'd then draft a QB in the last half of the draft, and bring Keenum and Tate into training camp.

After this season, OB would know if he'd need to target a QB next season. No QB prospect this year carries a rating in the top 5. Drafting one at 1-1 is a reach.
 
ObsiWan said:
I could stomach drafting a Bridgewater at 1-1 before I'd give up a 2nd rounder for Mallett.
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But I doubt that you know anything about O'brien's opinion of TB, I know I certainly don't, but what's safe to say is that he knows much, much more about Mallet since he coached him for an entire season and if he views Mallet as a talented QB who fits his system, why wouldn't he prefer the choice with much less uncertainty especially with a far lower price tag ? Wouldn't you in that situation ?
 
Playoffs said:
ProFootballCentral ‏@PFCentral

(originating from same Boston/New England based site)
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Allllllll Riiiiiiigghhhhttt!!!!!


Rick Smith is going toe to toe with Satan. Hopefully he understands walking away would count as a win if we don't want to give up 33, which I don't want to do.

I like the idea of Mallet, but I'd be just as happy with Gimpy Mettenberger with 33 & no "married to the QB" contract.


I'd much rather have Robinson, Yankey, & Mallet..... but I can live with Zach(or McCarron) with that second.
 
Though I'll still be happy if we have to give up the 33rd for Mallet. I really expect no less from Rick, he's out of his element here.

I'll just be happy with the direction we're going at the QB position (away from 2013's direction).
 
thunderkyss said:
Though I'll still be happy if we have to give up the 33rd for Mallet. I really expect no less from Rick, he's out of his element here.

I'll just be happy with the direction we're going at the QB position (away from 2013's direction).
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How about we not define the most likely result as a failure and Smith getting outmaneuvered by a demi-god? A 2nd has always been the most likely outcome for any team trading for Mallett. Anything less should be deemed a major coup.
 
infantrycak said:
How about we not define the most likely result as a failure and Smith getting outmaneuvered by a demi-god? A 2nd has always been the most likely outcome for any team trading for Mallett. Anything less should be deemed a major coup.
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Where's the fun in that?

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I'm changing my position on Mallet. I wouldn't give up #33 but I'd give up #65.

What changed my mind was the John Harris interview in the other thread, when he said, ..."The biggest thing as it pertains to a QB is the time it’ll take to pick up the new offensive system. Bill O’Brien absolutely without question does not want to wait for a QB to “get” his system...".

Mallet has no game experience, but he knows the system.
 
Playoffs said:
Bringing over from another thread, Mallett talk heating up...
Patriots QB Ryan Mallett just 'OK' at Arkansas Pro Day
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Playoffs said:
ProFootballCentral ‏@PFCentral
(originating from same Boston/New England based site)
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Legitimate source finally...

Nick Underhill ‏@Nick_Underhill
On the Ryan Mallett-Houston rumors that are out there … Source says that the interest is real, but nothing is definite.
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So the question for me becomes, can the Texans hold out until the draft day 2?

Some teams are very likely to approach the Texans after Day 1 to trade up into the 2-1 slot and grab their guy. Texans could get a later 2nd rounder to use for Mallett plus add maybe a 3rd round pick. Just throwing it against the wall, see what sticks.

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New England Patriots rumors 2014: Houston Texans have interest in Ryan Mallett
The Texans, who hold the first pick in May's draft and are in need of a quarterback, have expressed interest in acquiring Mallett, according to a league source. However, the source also noted that nothing is definite and classified the level of involvement as "talk."

If a deal were struck, the move would reunite Mallett with Houston head coach Bill O'Brien, who worked with the quarterback while serving as New England's offensive coordinator in 2011.

Mallett has thrown four total passes during the regular season. He completed 55.2 percent of his passes for 447 yards with three touchdowns and an interception last preseason.

It has long been believed that the Patriots would like to receive a second-round pick in return for Mallett, though a source previously told MassLive.com that New England turned down such an offer from the Denver Broncos prior to the 2012 season.

Houston holds the 33rd overall pick, which would likely be attractive to the Patriots, but it may prove to be more than the Texans are willing to part with. If they were to trade for Mallett, the Texans would be able to address a position other than quarterback with the first pick.
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http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2014/03/new_england_patriots_rumors_20_1.html
 
But you'd be trading that second for a player who has only one year remaining on his contract. He'll be a free agent next year. So would your trade be contingent upon working out a successful renegotiation of contract? Or do you just bite the bullet and pay what it takes to resign him next year, taking the chance he may decide to go elsewhere? Or what?
 
Number19 said:
But you'd be trading that second for a player who has only one year remaining on his contract. He'll be a free agent next year. So would your trade be contingent upon working out a successful renegotiation of contract? Or do you just bite the bullet and pay what it takes to resign him next year, taking the chance he may decide to go elsewhere? Or what?
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Just like with Schaub and virtually every time such trades are done, it would be contingent on a contract being agreed upon.

I'm curious, do you have any objections to him as a player? Not price or contract.
 
Playoffs said:
New England Patriots rumors 2014: Houston Texans have interest in Ryan Mallett

http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2014/03/new_england_patriots_rumors_20_1.html
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In 2012, Mallet was 3 years from the end of his contract. The Pats know that if they don't make a trade this year, Mallet is likely to walk next year, thus negotiating a trade to get some value for him may be next to impossible if they don't find a trade partner this offseason.

Also before 2012, his numbers were virtually nonexistent, with initial excitement and hope for potential much higher than after he has accumulated very pedestrian, albeit sparsely opportunistic, stats since.
 
I've changed my mind on this based on the John Harris interview linked in the other thread, where it concluded: "...The biggest thing as it pertains to a QB is the time it’ll take to pick up the new offensive system. Bill O’Brien absolutely without question does not want to wait for a QB to “get” his system...".

In this regard, Mallet represents 3 years of training camp experience in OB's system. Mallet would still have to win the starting position from Keenum and Yates during training camp, but he represents the "veteran" experience that I've said all along the team should acquire. It seems that this is the player that OB wants, if it's true that we are pursuing the trade. So again I'm good.
 
Number19 said:
But you'd be trading that second for a player who has only one year remaining on his contract. He'll be a free agent next year. So would your trade be contingent upon working out a successful renegotiation of contract? Or do you just bite the bullet and pay what it takes to resign him next year, taking the chance he may decide to go elsewhere? Or what?
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Texans choice, really. One year for Mallett to prove that he's worth starter money or only as a backup, vs. lock him up and take the chance.
 
It may not be my first choice, but trading our 2nd rounder for Mallet is a move a I can get behind and be excited about.

It makes sense too if O'Brien isn't completely sold on a QB at 1.1. In my opinion Mallet with 3 years of learning the NFL is worlds better than any QB we will have a shot at getting at #33. So in that sense trading that pick for him instead of getting a rookie QB seems like a smart move.

Also I am a firm believe that many talented QBs bust because they weren't ready for to be a franchise savior QB for their team from day 1. Mallet has had 3 years sitting behind arguably the best coach and QB of all time...that has to count for something.
 
Playoffs said:
Texans choice, really. One year for Mallett to prove that he's worth starter money or only as a backup, vs. lock him up and take the chance.
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Folks seem to be looking at signing him long term as only having a bust risk. It also has a potential reward. He is unproven now. Any contract he signs will be akin to Schaub's - a giant increase for him but still a contract which is far below market for a starter if it works out. Schaub's contract was about 60% of what top third QBs were getting. Also it can be structured to have an easy out after 2 years (Schaub only had $7 mil in guaranteed money).
 
I can't see spending a two on Mallet, this year. I've got Tuitt penciled in at 2-33. He's a number one who's slipped a little because of his injury. Him at weakside DE makes Mercilus more effective as the Elephant. Taking Mack at 1-1 allows Reed to move inside. Offering #65 would be acceptable. I've got Smallwood penciled in at that spot, but unless NE were to take a two next year, you have to pay the piper this year and Smallwood would be the price I'd give up. I don't think James will slip to the fifth, he's too good in pass protection, but if he's taken before we draft at #97, I'd maybe go with Skov at that spot.
 
New England backup quarterback Ryan Mallett is entering the final year of his rookie contract and the Patriots have one last chance to trade the former third-round pick. And this time, it appears the Houston Texans could be a possible suitor, Nick Underhill of Masslive reports.
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Full story
 
Lots of possibilities to make the compensation equate to more of a middle/later 2nd and not lose our picks total.

My question is more, is Ryan Mallett a guy you'd hire as the CEO of your organization?



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Number19 said:
I'm changing my position on Mallet. I wouldn't give up #33 but I'd give up #65.

What changed my mind was the John Harris interview in the other thread, when he said, ..."The biggest thing as it pertains to a QB is the time it’ll take to pick up the new offensive system. Bill O’Brien absolutely without question does not want to wait for a QB to “get” his system...".

Mallet has no game experience, but he knows the system.
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Yeah... now I could definitely pull the trigger if they'll take the #65 pick for him.

And, to me, if we take Mallett (at 33 or 65) that says we will NOT pick a QB until about rds 5-7, if then. If O'Brien makes that move - and I think it would be an O'Brien move, not a Rick Smith move - then that's "his guy". So no real need to get a QB from the draft.

To give up my 33rd pick I would need Mallett AND a 4th or 5th rd pick from the Pats. There's so much defensive, O-line, and WR talent in this draft the Pats are effectively getting a first rounder. Yeah, it would have to be Mallett and their 4th for my #33 pick.
 
Not for pick #33. In this years deep draft that is essentially an extra first round pick. First pick in the 3 rd round? Maybe...

You still have to get Mallet to agree to a contract as well since he is a FA next season
 
Number19 said:
I can't see spending a two on Mallet, this year. I've got Tuitt penciled in at 2-33. He's a number one who's slipped a little because of his injury. Him at weakside DE makes Mercilus more effective as the Elephant. Taking Mack at 1-1 allows Reed to move inside. Offering #65 would be acceptable. I've got Smallwood penciled in at that spot, but unless NE were to take a two next year, you have to pay the piper this year and Smallwood would be the price I'd give up. I don't think James will slip to the fifth, he's too good in pass protection, but if he's taken before we draft at #97, I'd maybe go with Skov at that spot.
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Tuitt is a promising draft choice. Just a little background. He had a Jones fracture diagnosed through screening scan tests performed at the Combine. If he opts to have it treated conservatively, there is a long recovery (as long as 4-5 months) with a 50% failure or recurrence rate. He will need to undergo surgery to minimize this from being the case (failure down to ~5-10%). Last year, following offseason "sports hernia" surgery, he ballooned his weight from his usual 300 lbs to 320+ lbs. He had hell trying to drop ~25 lbs for the Combine. Now if he undergoes successful surgery, an uncomplicated recovery would be ~8-10 weeks before he would see any return to the field, most likely as a blimp again. It's anyone's guess how long it will take him to get his weight down and then get his conditioning back up.
 
matts290 said:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-texans-could-trade-for-mallett-draft-clowney

Matt Miller substantiating the buzz now. Of course its still just a rumor, but pretending we make a deal for Mallet do you guys think they is a near lock for us to take Clowney at first overall?
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Most likely that's what they're going to do. But I think it would be much better for this team if we take Robinson in the first & Yankey in the second... assuming we trade our 3rd & Tj Yates for Mallet.
 
thunderkyss said:
Most likely that's what they're going to do. But I think it would be much better for this team if we take Robinson in the first & Yankey in the second... assuming we trade our 3rd & Tj Yates for Mallet.
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One thing we know from Mallett's Arkansas days is most of his bad throws came when under heavy pressure. Although I would much prefer Clowney at 1.1 in this potential situation, taking care of our our line needs later, getting the #1 OT in the draft would make some sense towards building a wall around Mallett.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Listening to this interview during college (link below), a box of rocks comes to mind.............hope he's matured since.......a whole bunch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=folWxFenWSw
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Try this one instead - Gruden QB Camp

The guy was a 1st round talent with off field immaturity issues which haven't recurred in three years.

Caplan wrote on Twitter Tuesday night that Mallett is “almost certain” to drop out of the first round of April’s draft, even going so far as to say it “wouldn’t shock (Caplan) to see Mallett fall to the third (round).” Similar to Breer, Caplan cites “baggage, and not the kind you carry” as the main reason for Mallett’s projected draft-day slip.
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Mallett has the arm strength and size of a franchise NFL quarterback but still needs to continue to develop his accuracy and decision-making consistency. Can drive the ball down field and hit the deep out. When drop mechanics are sound, shows the ability to stick the ball into tiny windows. Has played in pro-style systems and understands reads and progressions but is still prone to taking some risks. Release is natural and over-the-top. Exhibits leadership qualities on the field but front offices will want to further investigate his character and ability to take coaching. Mallett's a really enticing package and will likely come off the board in round one.

Pick Analysis: Bill Belichick is masterful at picking up quality picks in the middle stages of the draft. Mallett is a legitimate first-round talent with the skills to be a star in the league. He has the unique opportunity to develop behind Tom Brady without the pressure of getting on the field immediately. This is an outstanding pick for the Patriots because it gives them tremendous long-term depth and flexibility at the quarterback position.
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NFL.com draft prospect grades - Mallett 7.4, Bortles 6.4, Bridgewater 6.3, Manziel 5.9
 
matts290 said:
One thing we know from Mallett's Arkansas days is most of his bad throws came when under heavy pressure. Although I would much prefer Clowney at 1.1 in this potential situation, taking care of our our line needs later, getting the #1 OT in the draft would make some sense towards building a wall around Mallett.
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Robinson as a potential 1.1 is actually underdiscussed on this board (and that is saying something)
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Tuitt is a promising draft choice. Just a little background. He had a Jones fracture diagnosed through screening scan tests performed at the Combine. If he opts to have it treated conservatively, there is a long recovery (as long as 4-5 months) with a 50% failure or recurrence rate. He will need to undergo surgery to minimize this from being the case (failure down to ~5-10%). Last year, following offseason "sports hernia" surgery, he ballooned his weight from his usual 300 lbs to 320+ lbs. He had hell trying to drop ~25 lbs for the Combine. Now if he undergoes successful surgery, an uncomplicated recovery would be ~8-10 weeks before he would see any return to the field, most likely as a blimp again. It's anyone's guess how long it will take him to get his weight down and then get his conditioning back up.
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I've read he's already undergone the surgery, just before his pro day, and recovery was expected at 6-8 weeks. Hopefully just before the draft he might be able to test for teams. But I attribute this to why he would fall to us at 2-33.

Your post is the first to mention the 5-10% failure rate for the surgery, which would be a concern; and you have a longer range for the recovery, which would prevent him from maybe testing prior to the draft.

I am definitely being optimistic, here. But if Tuitt could fully recover from this injury, he would be a tremendous and unexpected talent at 2-33. I've read reports that the way teams began to "solve" Crennel's defense was to simply refuse to double the DE because the player didn't have the ability to - the word the writer used was "punish" - the offense for blocking one-on-one.
 
matts290 said:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-texans-could-trade-for-mallett-draft-clowney

Matt Miller substantiating the buzz now. Of course its still just a rumor, but pretending we make a deal for Mallet do you guys think they is a near lock for us to take Clowney at first overall?
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I agree it appears this is probably the case. But there has been a few musings that Mack is a dark horse for the Texans at 1-1 and of course, the big boards now have Mack the second highest rated defensive player and overall at #3 (or tied at #3).

Mack's versatility is one of his assets. He can play with his hand down and can play both ILB and OLB. At Buffalo, he was their best player and they moved him all around to gain matchup advantages, just like we used JJ.

Plus, Mack is a model citizen and committed to football.
 
matts290 said:
One thing we know from Mallett's Arkansas days is most of his bad throws came when under heavy pressure. Although I would much prefer Clowney at 1.1 in this potential situation, taking care of our our line needs later, getting the #1 OT in the draft would make some sense towards building a wall around Mallett.
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This is why I've got James penciled in at 4-97, although he may not be there. Unusual for a right tackle, James' strength is his pass blocking skills and his weakness is in his run blocking skills. His pass blocking skills grade out as first round talent, and some project him to left tackle for this reason, in which case he might could move up the boards into the third round. But he lacks training room strength as shown by his reps at the combine and this, during his collegiate career, transferred to his run blocking. I figure this is correctable with a few off-seasons in a professional weight room, but meanwhile he's an asset in pass protection.
 
Pats fans don't don't even think Mallet is worth pick #33 and don't expect that much. That's essentially a late 1st round pick so it would be borderline insane for the Texans to do that. I've seen some creative deals on their board though that make some sense. Swapping picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds....... or swapping picks in the 2nd and 4th rounds. Obviously I like the second scenario better, but I could get behind this since we get to theoretically keep all of our picks in this deep draft.
 
if we do get mallet (whatever pick we give up 2nd or 3rd) we must trade down.
it would make this offseason as good as you can get.
 
aussie_texan said:
if we do get mallet (whatever pick we give up 2nd or 3rd) we must trade down.
it would make this offseason as good as you can get.
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Exactly, we trade down and if we get that same round pick as we would give for mallet, then that would mean we got Mallet for free. and we trade down to get Dee Ford or Anthony barr
 
aussie_texan said:
if we do get mallet (whatever pick we give up 2nd or 3rd) we must trade down.
it would make this offseason as good as you can get.
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honored82 said:
Exactly, we trade down and if we get that same round pick as we would give for mallet, then that would mean we got Mallet for free. and we trade down to get Dee Ford or Anthony barr
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You guys are saying we should trade down from 1-1, right?

The Pats specifically want that #33 pick for Mallet - which I think is too much for a guy with no stats. At least when we traded for Schaub he had shown some ability in real NFL starts. And he - Schaub - was clearly an upgrade over Carr. Can the same be said about Mallet; that he's clearly an upgrade over Keenum or Yates or even Schaub?
 
Just not getting where Mallett's play warrants the pick stinginess many are displaying. It especially makes no sense to me to say "well let's just get one of the the 3rd or later round QBs and let them develop." The guys falling to the 3rd and later this year are doing so because of their play to date. He has already done his bench sitting time to develop they would have to do. Mallett fell due to off field issues or he was a 1st round guy and there is nary a whisper of any problems since being drafted. His talent level is on par with the 3 QBs being considered at 1.1.

NFL.com draft prospect grades - Mallett 7.4, Bortles 6.4, Bridgewater 6.3, Manziel 5.9.

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If you can buy a $10k car for $5k you don't get hung up arguing $4k instead of $5k especially if the reason you are obsessing over $4k is because the current owner got it for $2k and you think he is looking for too much profit. It's classic penny wise and pound foolish.
 
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