After watching the Jan 29th video I am pretty sure he suffers from some way more than normal anxiety when having to be in front of big crowds, around a group of people he does not know. I actually feel bad for the guy, for me personally it was hard to watch. I wish they would excuse him from the mandatory press meetings. Here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1KxifysLsk
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Marshawn Lynch, what I think...
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DexmanC
Hall of Fame
I don't have a problem with his demeanor at all. Those people in the room ain't his friends, and he's just there to play football. Some people require a little emotional honesty from folks asking them questions. Marshawn happens to be one of them.
The "boss" line is classic. Speaks to the prison camp the NFL can be.
The "boss" line is classic. Speaks to the prison camp the NFL can be.
I don't have a problem with his demeanor either, I just personally think that he does not speak to the media because he has some pretty tough anxiety when having to be in front of or around a bunch of strangers. From around the 40 second mark until the time that the FB comes in to save him I can just see how nervous he is. As far as boss...when he is interviewed by a person and not a media circus, when he is comfortable, he uses the term a lot less from what I have seen.
2012Champs
Hall of Fame
Not very many prison camps where you can make 10 times the median HH income or many many times more. Also how many prison camps can you just walk away from if you want?
I agree, he reminds me of Ricky Williams when dealing with the media. I'm thinking some type of anxiety as well.
Norg
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dis is dumb IMO forcing players to talk to the media NFL is trying to turn into the WWE
I feel if Lynch does not feel like talking to people he does not know then he shouldn't have to be forced 2
he may have anxiety who knows if that's the case the NFL should be imbressed to forcing him to 2 do this
I feel if Lynch does not feel like talking to people he does not know then he shouldn't have to be forced 2
he may have anxiety who knows if that's the case the NFL should be imbressed to forcing him to 2 do this
Vance87
All Pro
Looks like he was on some 'medicine' to calm him down a bit...he still had nervous ticks though. Like shaking his leg up and down.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
Why should he expose himself to a bunch of buzzards and vultures? They don't want anything but a story they can run with which hurts someone. It's not like these are reporters asking the questions. There are precious few of those anymore. They are gossips and slanderers.
revan
Waterboy
I cant believe how some people there on youtube think he is high while giving an interview. He obviously suffers from anxiety and does not want to be there in front of the cameras. Not everyone wants the spotlight. As long as he gets it done on the field who cares if he speaks to these vultures or not. Just the NFL trying to squeeze every little penny they can from their "product". If Im Pete Carroll I will do whatever it takes to keep my star RB focused and away from those idiots.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
I think I'd limit interview requirements to before the season and after the season. Anything more is counterproductive.
The "Press" is too arrogant, thinking they have a right to interview you or take stalker style photos. They have a right to publish what you willingly tell them, not to invade your private space. Now what you do in public is another matter. That is the purview of harassment when they continue pursuing someone after being told to back off.
2012Champs
Hall of Fame
Your post has nothing to do with what I said so I'm not sure why you quoted me but I think it's a mistake
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
It could be. I thought you were supporting mandatory interviews because of his salary. But I could easily be wrong.
2012Champs
Hall of Fame
It seems pretty clear my post was addressing the rediculous term "prison camp" but yes you were wrong as I never mentioned or ref to mandatory interviews
b0ng
Bad Hombre
That FB is Mike Robinson and he owns bones when it comes to interviews and stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79ZilfG2B0E
Keith Olbermann absolutely wrecking the pro football writers over the Lynch stuff.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
Sorry then. I jumped to a conclusion that it was about more. I read between the lines and it should have been blank.
^^^^
This
The NFL is intruding on freedom of speech rights. Unfortunately they can get away with this, just like most other corps/companies can.
I just wish the Texans would've traded a 4th rd pick for Lynch. Many on this MB didn't want to make that trade at the time. There's no denying that Lynch is a top 5 RB in the NFL. The guy is a beast. Nah, on 2nd thought the Texans don't need those type of guys on their team.
b0ng
Bad Hombre
At that particular time Lynch had been involved in a hit-and-run while not being terrible on the Bills, he was a guy that was getting just over 1000 yards and about 7 or 8 TD's a season.
He has also received a DUI since being on the Seahawks so eh.
jaayteetx
All Pro
Freedom of speech? Not even close, go take a look at the amendment again.
jaayteetx
All Pro
Prison camp? Sign me up boss. For the paycheck, at least.
I don't care I just want the best FOOTBALL players on the team and could care less about their personal lives.
I agree with you. However that doesn't make what corps/businesses are doing right?
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
As much as I dislike a majority of the media, it's his obligation as an NFL player to cooperate with the media. Heck, I'd rather not have to see or listen to the dude talk, but it's the rules, and he knows it. Randy Moss had to do it. Marvin Harrison had to do it as well as many others, I'm sure. Get your ass up there, do your mandatory time and go away. Quit making a mockery of the system
Do I think they should modify the rules? You bet! I have a huge issue speaking to masses too. I know for a fact I'd try to avoid it like the plague. But, it's the rules
I think Lynch is a bad ass RB. He's old school to me and I dig that. But, like I said, ya gotta do what ya gotta do
Do I think they should modify the rules? You bet! I have a huge issue speaking to masses too. I know for a fact I'd try to avoid it like the plague. But, it's the rules
I think Lynch is a bad ass RB. He's old school to me and I dig that. But, like I said, ya gotta do what ya gotta do
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
While I generally agree with you given the current NFL rules on drugs and alcohol NFL teams have to take those into consideration. As much as I think the NFL should take its nose out of things like smoking pot, being a player who may be suspended at any time for a year has to be factored in.
The NFL is probably one of the worst examples around for this argument. The money is generated virtually entirely off the game and the "knights" "warriors" etc. who play it and the players are guaranteed a % of that income. So I see no problem with the NFL saying "look, we and you make all our money off of media attention so we have to be available to the media."
Having said that I think it is stupid for the NFL not to have some procedure for a player to privately say this goes beyond something I don't like doing because of X, please grant an exception.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Dude is from the streets and has that mentality. He looks uncomfortable, but i bet it's nothing related to actual fear of being in front of the camera...I think it's more related to him not knowing how to express himself well enough without using street venacular and/or cursing a ton....some people have that problem..
here is the only interview he's ever done and even in this he has a couple of slips of the tougue......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaJXI7669sQ
here is the only interview he's ever done and even in this he has a couple of slips of the tougue......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaJXI7669sQ
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
Good point but I still personally think he is having a full on panic attack. He curses in almost all interviews but when he is in a comfortable setting his demeanor is totally different. Here is why I believe that.
From about the 40 second mark until 2:15 he is showing some pretty obvious signs of having a panic attack.
2:06-2:07 he sends a not verbal sign to Michael Robinson to "step in" followed by some words I can't make out.
3:56-3:59 Robinson assures him that he has his back meaning just stay calm, I'm right here
5:46-until the end of the video. Lynch is aggravated because he feels trapped in. If you are having a panic attack due to being around a large group of strangers what you want more than anything else is to remove yourself from the situation...that is why he is pissed.
Again this is just my personal opinion but you cannot tell me that the NFL has not picked up on this, I just think that they prefer the ratings...
One other thing, the Marshawn Deon interview has to be one of the best interviews I have seen. Props to Marshawn for giving all those Nike billboard one-liners, especially under the conditions.
From about the 40 second mark until 2:15 he is showing some pretty obvious signs of having a panic attack.
2:06-2:07 he sends a not verbal sign to Michael Robinson to "step in" followed by some words I can't make out.
3:56-3:59 Robinson assures him that he has his back meaning just stay calm, I'm right here
5:46-until the end of the video. Lynch is aggravated because he feels trapped in. If you are having a panic attack due to being around a large group of strangers what you want more than anything else is to remove yourself from the situation...that is why he is pissed.
Again this is just my personal opinion but you cannot tell me that the NFL has not picked up on this, I just think that they prefer the ratings...
One other thing, the Marshawn Deon interview has to be one of the best interviews I have seen. Props to Marshawn for giving all those Nike billboard one-liners, especially under the conditions.
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I agree completely. This is NFL marketing putting the hype machine in front of the actual game itself.
There are many players who feel comfortable with the media. Let them do the talking, because there are plenty of them who have plans to get into media after their football careers are over.
I don't buy into the obligation mentality. The NFL is a 10 billion dollar industry because of these athletes. It's a symbiotic relationship, for sure, but to me, don't make your product uncomfortable because a bunch of press that never covers the NFL now wants interviews. All this other media and marketing crap is just a freakin' circus.
These players owe us nothing beyond what they get paid to do on the field. Any other perspective is just being selfish and loses sight of what really should matter in the NFL - the games.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
They don't even owe us the game. They do owe the commitment of their contracts to the league/team and this is one of them.
This is a subject where the marketing hype is integral. These players make money, a rare guaranteed %, generated by that marketing hype not just the game.
To repeat though - the NFL should have a means for players to get out of it due to special circumstances.
I understand the contractual obligations, but c'mon, this is the Super Bowl. Our heads are going to explode if they continue to pump up the hype more than they already do now. I don't see Goodell up there being asked stupid, goofy questions, and he makes more per year than most of these players.
This should be about FOOTBALL, not the continuous digging of irrelevant minutia regarding every single, little aspect of each player.
It just seems like the hype is now becoming more important than he game itself. I'd rather go back to the times of a week between conference games and the Super Bowl.
This should be about FOOTBALL, not the continuous digging of irrelevant minutia regarding every single, little aspect of each player.
It just seems like the hype is now becoming more important than he game itself. I'd rather go back to the times of a week between conference games and the Super Bowl.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
I am not saying all the NFL's marketing decisions are correct. I don't watch any of this stuff. Just saying the player's contract is tied to more than just the game and with the good comes the bad.
Ask the players to identify the top 3 off the field requirements they hate the most, maybe this will be one of them. Then ask them if they will trade the cap going down from $120 mil to $110 mil in exchange for getting rid of them.
Ask the players to identify the top 3 off the field requirements they hate the most, maybe this will be one of them. Then ask them if they will trade the cap going down from $120 mil to $110 mil in exchange for getting rid of them.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
The guy obviously is uncomfortable talking to strangers and probably has some sort of anxiety disorder. The NFL was going to fine him for skipping interviews during the season, but at the last minute decided not to. I'm guessing they see something similar.
I find it preposterous that the PFWA is "appalled" at the lack of access to him. There's 100 other plays there to talk to, but they are taking a personal affront at his lack of access to them. They could care less if it was a lack of access to someone else, but because he won't talk to them it's personal. And they made it personal with their public response (outrage) at him not wanting to give interviews.
I'm appalled as well.....
I find it preposterous that the PFWA is "appalled" at the lack of access to him. There's 100 other plays there to talk to, but they are taking a personal affront at his lack of access to them. They could care less if it was a lack of access to someone else, but because he won't talk to them it's personal. And they made it personal with their public response (outrage) at him not wanting to give interviews.
I'm appalled as well.....
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
I liked that the NFL basically told the reporters to F off, he had done what he needed to do.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
I love how he handled it. They told him to show up, so he did. He talked for 2 minutes then sat in the corner with headphones on for the rest of the time. Could totally be the next 'beats by Dre' commercial.
However, the ego of the media will never be overcome. The Super Bowl game may be about the players, but Super Bowl week is about the media. They have made sure of that. And getting slighted by one player makes him an easy target for their wrath and injured pride. I mean, how dare that one player not talk to us! It's appalling!
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
I agree. The media are acting like petulant children.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
If Lynch needs help with this issue then he should be contacting the Players Union. They have the power to negotiate these things on his and the other players behalf.
I think Lynch is telling the fans F.U. every time he refuses to answer the media's questions.
I don't understand how some fans are all on his side about this whole thing. Like McClain says... he could care less what Marshawn Lynch has to say. The reporters are there asking the questions for the fans.
If I were the NFL, I'd hold it against the NFLPA. Tell them to get their player in check, or be in breach of contract.
I don't understand how some fans are all on his side about this whole thing. Like McClain says... he could care less what Marshawn Lynch has to say. The reporters are there asking the questions for the fans.
If I were the NFL, I'd hold it against the NFLPA. Tell them to get their player in check, or be in breach of contract.
I heard that his beef was more with being burned by media taking what he said out of context to suit their purpose while making him look like a jerk. If true I understand. I think being burned by media not only pisses you off but also makes one more cautious.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
He's clearly telling the media and the league F.U., not the fans. He's been burned by the media before so he wants nothing to do with them anymore. He also has a social anxiety and doesn't feel comfortable sitting in front of a large group of strangers with a mic in his face.
It wouldn't even be an issue if the media didn't take exception to it and now has an axe to grind against him. They feel slighted and are taking it personally. They try to make him look like a fool out of spite instead of just respecting his wish to be left alone. It's only a story because the media wishes to make it a story.
I think he's being a little punk about it. Dude gets paid millions to play a kid's game. Just do the freakin' interviews for the fans that buy your merch. Everyone else knows the business, but this guy thinks he's special and above it. I lost respect for the guy after yesterday. Something about it just rubbed me the wrong way. It is a very chump attitude, IMO.
austins23
Hall of Fame
E60, or Sportscenter did a segment on him a while back. It was about his upbringing through the rough neighborhoods of where he is from. He talked to the reporter for quite a bit in that interview.
He wasn't very articulate and he had a few F-bombs "beeped" out. As someone suggested, maybe he has something wrong with him. Who knows?
I'm in the "come on man, really?" camp. Just deal with it for the 5 or 15 minutes and be done with it.
He wasn't very articulate and he had a few F-bombs "beeped" out. As someone suggested, maybe he has something wrong with him. Who knows?
I'm in the "come on man, really?" camp. Just deal with it for the 5 or 15 minutes and be done with it.
Showtime100
Got JJ?
banned1976
sleeper mode
The questions asked on radio row are usually non-productive. I don't really care what a HC's favorite cartoon character is or what they like to eat for breakfast. And questions that are asked that are interesting or provocative aren't going to be answered anyway. Someone asked Blount today if he schemed his way out of Pittsburgh so he could return to the Patriots. He just laughed and ignored the question.
Seriously, I don't know why I should care about what Lynch has to say. Which is why I don't.
Seriously, I don't know why I should care about what Lynch has to say. Which is why I don't.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
You work for a company and part of that company's job requirement is to talk to the media. So talk to the media or find another job.
I do get the player's perspective though. Reporters are idiots and ask a lot of stupid questions, repeat questions and so on. You get taken out of context at times just so that reporter can generate clicks to a website and things of that nature, so I get not wanting to put yourself out there.
But, the NFL company requires it so you've got to do it.
I do get the player's perspective though. Reporters are idiots and ask a lot of stupid questions, repeat questions and so on. You get taken out of context at times just so that reporter can generate clicks to a website and things of that nature, so I get not wanting to put yourself out there.
But, the NFL company requires it so you've got to do it.