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I agree with this, the coaches do nothing to help the QB with the blitz, they call screens at the wrong time, they call draws at the wrong time, they empty the back field with no RB at the wrong time.because we have a bad head coach with an outdated offense.
absolutely no offensive adjustment to teams blitzing case.
No draw plays to kill the blitz
no bubble screens to wrs
no screens to rbs
no short slants
This coaching staff has always had trouble with in game adjustments.
This offense has always struggled in the second half scoring dating back to last year.
Case has played great so far this season with everything stacked against him. You give schaub 7 years of mediocrity yet you cant even give keenum who has put up great numbers 5 games before you pull him.
SHAMELESS AND DISGUSTING.
i mean just look at the play where they pull the runing back away from the back field and put him all the way to the sideline,I agree with this, the coaches do nothing to help the QB with the blitz, they call screens at the wrong time, they call draws at the wrong time, they empty the back field with no RB at the wrong time.
Why Matt McGloin has 3 passing TDs against our defense.Can somebody please explain to me...
How do you call for a draw play when the D has been blitzing progressively more the whole game & getting most of the pressure right up the middle? Actually, that's not even predictuable; it's just STUPID.You got a inconsistent offensive line (Newton is straight killing them on too many plays), our best pass protecting RB is out for the season and the best TE is out.
Plus this maybe just venom from the recent loss but I question some of the play calling being so predictable the defense knows what is coming and can out work our linemen.
I agree, that is just stupid. It should be used rarely when you are going to have a play where you want to flood downfield with receivers. The Texans are using it a good percentage of the time.i mean just look at the play where they pull the runing back away from the back field and put him all the way to the sideline,
WTH IS THAT?
WTH IS THAT?
If McNair doesn't see what has transpired here, I'm not sure what to think or what I am going to do. If he approaches this as something that is mendable with this current regime, I may just call it quits on this team.The burning question is: Has McNair seen enough of this clusterbuck to make wholesale changes when the season is over?
He has to realize that his team is the laughingstock of the NFL.
If that debacle in the red zone at the end of the game doesn't result in McNair's head exploding then he is as much the problem as anyone.
Thanks for the best, unbiased response I've heard in a while!I gotta throw in the the O-line has SUCKED all year. Also, Keenum, while I'm rooting for him, is not dealing with the blitz well at all and that's why they keep doing it excessively against him (that, & the O-line is a freaking turnstyle). He can't hit the hot receiver on the short route accurately, & I think he doesn't see him soon enough either. This is something he might improve on a lot in the future....or not....I don't know.
Schaub does that far better than Keenum, but we all know he isn't the answer.
We might need a NEW QB, along with a heart and a head coach.
I'm going to find the pink soap, or blue, or whatever.
Did the last 3 weeks make this board lose its collective memory about Schaub's response to blitzes?Schaub does that far better than Keenum, but we all know he isn't the answer.
And simply not good enough to beat them with all day to throw against a soft zone, very sad.Did the last 3 weeks make this board lose its collective memory about Schaub's response to blitzes?
Also the Raiders didn't blitz Schaub, there was absolutely no need, he's simply not good enough to win.
How about calling a reverse, some screens or getting better blockers?How do you call for a draw play when the D has been blitzing progressively more the whole game & getting most of the pressure right up the middle? Actually, that's not even predictuable; it's just STUPID.
Being bad against the blitz is a small symptom if the greater problem which is kubiak and quite possibly an owner depending on how he handles this.
It's pretty bad when that post is the only one that even attempts to give a legitimate answer as to why they don't do well against the blitz. Keenum's inability to find the hot receiver is the reason why opposing defenses are pinning their ears back. Schaub is done, and I love Keenum, and his ability to extend plays. I do think he's the QB that will take us places, but he's got plenty more learning to do.I gotta throw in the the O-line has SUCKED all year. Also, Keenum, while I'm rooting for him, is not dealing with the blitz well at all and that's why they keep doing it excessively against him (that, & the O-line is a freaking turnstyle). He can't hit the hot receiver on the short route accurately, & I think he doesn't see him soon enough either. This is something he might improve on a lot in the future....or not....I don't know.
Schaub does that far better than Keenum, but we all know he isn't the answer.
We might need a NEW QB, along with a heart and a head coach.
I'm going to find the pink soap, or blue, or whatever.
this team had trouble picking up blitzes last year so it's def not on the qb.I honestly hate to say this, but I think Gary set up Case to
fail to bring in Schaub.. Really, some of those play calls were
just head scratchers.
After 3 weeks this offensive coaching staff hasn't created
any plays to beat a blitz with keenum and all of his athleticism?
I just don't see it. Keenum was nails with RB and WR screens in
college -- has he forgotten how to throw them in the pros?
(I sure doubt it..)
TJ
Exactly. So he's saying Gary knows this and he continually calls plays that have a high percentage of failure so that Case looks bad and he can put Schaub back in.this team had trouble picking up blitzes last year so it's def not on the qb.
we used to talk about teams blitzing the **** out of schaub and people were content it was on schaub. now it's the same problem with a more athletic qb.
use the blitzes to your advantage. quick slants/screens whatever.
5-7 step drop plays that need time to develop with a ****ty o-line is a recipe for disaster no matter who the qb is.
this team had trouble picking up blitzes last year so it's def not on the qb.
we used to talk about teams blitzing the **** out of schaub and people were content it was on schaub. now it's the same problem with a more athletic qb.
use the blitzes to your advantage. quick slants/screens whatever.
5-7 step drop plays that need time to develop with a ****ty o-line is a recipe for disaster no matter who the qb is.
if gary would call the same dumb plays for schaub with no adjustment i'm sure it's probably not a sabotage on gary's behalf.Exactly. So he's saying Gary knows this and he continually calls plays that have a high percentage of failure so that Case looks bad and he can put Schaub back in.
it actually works the other way around......teams usually dont blitz the hell out of the good to elite qbs b/c they'll make them pay...look no further than the 2 patriots games and the gb game last year where wade continued to try to blitz Rodgers and Brady...we got surgically disected...Did the last 3 weeks make this board lose its collective memory about Schaub's response to blitzes?
Also the Raiders didn't blitz Schaub, there was absolutely no need, he's simply not good enough to win.
Do people really believe the bolded?Keenum threw a slant at KC that Posey took almost to the end zone.
I have not seen that play called again.. (and KC was a better defense
than any team they have faced since..)
I honestly think Gary sacked Case on purpose. I am not a conspiracy
guy, but at this point -- it's the only thing I can come up with..
TJ
Do people really believe the bolded?
Same here.I didn't, until the 3rd Q today..
its not that hard to think he wanted schaub to come in and "save the day".....case wasnt playing anywhere close to bad enough to be pulled and his b/s excuse of changing schemes and he didnt think case would be able to handle it..... :vincepalm: hes an idiotRight, cause Kubes doesn't wanna keep his job, just his boyfriend QB. Your livelihood is so overrated.
On Keenum's INT Wade Smith got blown up and his man hit Keenum pretty much as he was throwing.
On one sack Brooks blew his assignment - Brooks didn't block anyone , shifted to the other side of the line away from the pressure.
On the other sack , Newton & Tate both missed assignments - Newton took the inside guy , Tate didn't block anyone tho his assignment should have been the inside guy and Newton the widest defender.
There were numerous other blown blocking assignments and other instances of guys getting beat - Particularly Newton.
Doesn't matter who the QB is when mistakes like that are made by the linemen ...
Yeah, pft. Case has done a good job improving,but his blitz recog has been bad and that's why dcs keep doing it. Most of it is inexperience. I would've let him stay in and figure it out,but we know gary is gutless right now. I've said we need a qb but case deserves the right. To compete for the spot next yr imo.I gotta throw in the the O-line has SUCKED all year. Also, Keenum, while I'm rooting for him, is not dealing with the blitz well at all and that's why they keep doing it excessively against him (that, & the O-line is a freaking turnstyle). He can't hit the hot receiver on the short route accurately, & I think he doesn't see him soon enough either. This is something he might improve on a lot in the future....or not....I don't know.
Schaub does that far better than Keenum, but we all know he isn't the answer.
We might need a NEW QB, along with a heart and a head coach.
I'm going to find the pink soap, or blue, or whatever.
Case Keenum QBR = 73.3its not that hard to think he wanted schaub to come in and "save the day".....case wasnt playing anywhere close to bad enough to be pulled and his b/s excuse of changing schemes and he didnt think case would be able to handle it..... :vincepalm: hes an idiot
What was Case's 2nd half QBR? For that matter, have you looked at his 2nd half QBR in his three starts?Case Keenum QBR = 73.3
Matt Schaub QBR = 67.9
Nothing peachy either way, but you're right. Like I've said all along, Case simply needs to just settle down instead of waiting for the long ball to develop (when he has an O-Line and good play calls, that is). Otherwise, no, he did nothing deserved to be pulled. It was a chickensh!it move by Kubiak t save his own bacon.
how many ints has case thrown? and matt?What was Case's 2nd half QBR? For that matter, have you looked at his 2nd half QBR in his three starts?
Did I mention Matt? Thought not.how many ints has case thrown? and matt?
what about sacks?
I'd blame Keenum if these plays weren't so often .... Jailbreaks.Good post...the other thing people arent taking into account is that lots of times on blitzes, the qb is responsible for a guy as well in the sense that u know you dont have enough guys kept back in for protection so you as the qb have to make sure you get the ball out and you slide away from that guy who's gonna be coming in free...
.its a collective effort by everyone the line, coach and qb...all 3 fail at various times throughout the game.
You guys see only what you want to see..he's avoided alot of sacks, but he's taken some terrible ones too....how many ints has case thrown? and matt?
what about sacks?
thats just it. he has flaws but schaubs are worse at this point. AND case has the POTENTIAL to get better, schaub does not.....everyone here agrees he has issues, specifically the blitzes and locking onto wide outs, but he played 3.5 games. relax, he will improveYou guys see only what you want to see..he's avoided alot of sacks, but he's taken some terrible ones too....
..& ok, so he hasnt thrown but 1 int in his starts....what he has done though is fumble the ball at least once in every game he's started.
And up to this particular point, this is his 2nd straight game his TO early has led to pts for the opposition.
So Yeah he's not throwing ints, but he's turning the ball over all the same and helping the opposition put points on the board like schaub was.
And just as easily as you can blame fat randy for his choke job or the o-line for being leaky, or the defense for being..........garbage, you can blame Keenum for the last 2 losses. You cant bring up the fact that he's lost all his starts by 7 or less points and then gloss over Keenum's key fumbles that have directly or indirectly contributed to the opposition's point totals.
Im not bringing this stuff up in defense of schaub, but lets look at the macro view of things, not the micro.
You guys see only what you want to see..he's avoided alot of sacks, but he's taken some terrible ones too....
..& ok, so he hasnt thrown but 1 int in his starts....what he has done though is fumble the ball at least once in every game he's started.
And up to this particular point, this is his 2nd straight game his TO early has led to pts for the opposition.
So Yeah he's not throwing ints, but he's turning the ball over all the same and helping the opposition put points on the board like schaub was.
And just as easily as you can blame fat randy for his choke job or the o-line for being leaky, or the defense for being..........garbage, you can blame Keenum for the last 2 losses. You cant bring up the fact that he's lost all his starts by 7 or less points and then gloss over Keenum's key fumbles that have directly or indirectly contributed to the opposition's point totals.
Im not bringing this stuff up in defense of schaub, but lets look at the macro view of things, not the micro.
No...u ASSUME he's going to improve....noone knows that for sure...which is why i've said all along that we need to draft a qb early (1st - 3rd round) regardless of what keenum does...thats just it. he has flaws but schaubs are worse at this point. AND case has the POTENTIAL to get better, schaub does not.....everyone here agrees he has issues, specifically the blitzes and locking onto wide outs, but he played 3.5 games. relax, he will improve
lol ill bite. i may assume he will improve but its FACT schaub sucks, so whats the point in playing him?No...u ASSUME he's going to improve....noone knows that for sure...which is why i've said all along that we need to draft a qb early (1st - 3rd round) regardless of what keenum does...
Lol, so u couldn't refute anything in my post so u resort to trying to call me out about being "wrong" about him..whatever...just admit the fact that you were wrong on keenum.
The rams have been waiting for years for sam bradford to show improvement over the potential he showed in his rookie year. Ditto for Cam Newton and the panthers and Jay Cutler for the bears. All these guys were winners in college & put up great stats..its simply not written in stone that he'll improve beyond what he is now. Hell, if you go by trend, he's actually regressing; 2nd straight game where he hasnt played well.lol ill bite. i may assume he will improve but its FACT schaub sucks, so whats the point in playing him?
That's the problem right there. Kubes doesn't have the luxury of playing for next year (like Keenum does). While we all want Keenum to stay in there, win or lose, so he can learn the game while we assess what we got in him... Kubiak doesn't have that luxury. He needs to win NOW to save his ass.Yeah, pft. Case has done a good job improving,but his blitz recog has been bad and that's why dcs keep doing it. Most of it is inexperience. I would've let him stay in and figure it out,but we know gary is gutless right now. I've said we need a qb but case deserves the right. To compete for the spot next yr imo.