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Wolf6151 Houston Texans 2014 Mock #1

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This is my first 2014 mock draft and based on our current standing of pick #5. I'm also hoping the Texans re-sign Antonio Smith at a discount that lowers his cap hit for 2 yrs..

1. Anthony Barr-OLB, great speed and pass rush and fills arguably our biggest need. We move Brooks Reed to ILB next to Cushing and our 2014 LB corp. consists of Mercilus, Cushing, Reed, Barr. That sound like a very good starting LB corp.

2. Aaron Murray-QB, Keenum played very well last weekend comparitavely to Schaub, but it's only 1 game and he made alot of mistakes as well. With time Keenum will learn and MIGHT be our QB of the future. Murray adds depth and competition. I like how Murray holds the ball high, quick release, arm strength, athletic ability, mobility, plays in the toughest conference (SEC), lots of game experience.

3. JaWaun James-OT, 3yrs. of SEC game experience starting at RT. Great run blocking ability and good pass blocking ability. Fills another huge need and I think he could start day 1. I think Quessenberry will be the starter at LG and I doubt seriously that Brennan Williams ever becomes a starter for us.

4. Tre Boston-FS, I like his size for the position as well as his history of playing CB so he should be good in pass coverage. I think Ed Reed is a 1 and done player, Manning might not be back (hopefully he is) but we need depth at Safety badly.

5. Max Bullough-ILB, great size for the position and college productivity. Provides much needed LB. corp. depth filling a huge need.

6. Andrew Norwell-OT/OG, currently playing LG but has also played LT and was depth at RT. I like his versatility and he provides much needed interior O-line depth.

7. J.C. Copeland-FB, this guy is a tank. Younger and cheaper than Greg Jones.

I think Barr, Murray, and James can be starters right away, Boston, Bullough, and Norwell provide quality depth and situational rotational players, and Copeland becomes the next Vonta Leach while saving us a little money. I'd really like a CB in this draft as well as a DE but we've got more needs than picks and I think we've got the depth at both positions to pass on these positions for 1 yr. though I sure would like some upgrades to the depth. Hopefully we can trade down in the 1st and pick up an extra 2nd and 3rd round picks. Scooter made a very good point a few days ago on another thread, the LB corp is the heart of a 3-4 defense, and the O-line is the heart of any offense and we need to solidify both. This mock provides 2 O-linemen, and 2 LB's for each of those corps. along with a QB that will compete for the starting position, a Safety that will see the field alot in nickle and dime package, some quality depth at ILB and a starter level FB.
 
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Antonio's a FA next year. His cap number will be $0 if we don't resign him but at his age I doubt he'll be expecting a huge contract. We can most likely get him back cheap.

Yes, definitely need an OLB.

I like Murray. Hopefully the flashier QBs will push him to us in the second. I'd hate to be in a Rivers/Brees situation, but I'd hate to be where we are now even worse.

Love the OT pick, but shouldn't there be a LT available we can move to the right side? Even if that means taking one in the second & a QB in the third.
 
Wolf, I could live with that draft. I am going a different direction to resolve our OLB issue as we have done little with Merci and Reed. Are you satisfied with our corner depth?
 
No, but I think KJ gets re-signed, we've got JJo for another 2 yrs., and I hope for improvement from Bouye to push Harris and McCain. If we could trade down in the 1st and add another 2nd and 3rd/4th round picks then I'd love to grab some early round CB talent. As is we've got more holes in the team than picks in the draft and sacrifices have to made somewhere. At CB we at least have some starter level talent and their are much bigger holes on the team than CB depth.

I think Barr gives us an instant pass rush and solidifies our starting LB's along with moving Reed to ILB. That instant pass rush also helps our secondary alot. Great CB's with an a poor pass rush get exposed, average CB's with a great pass rush look great.
 
No, but I think KJ gets re-signed, we've got JJo for another 2 yrs., and I hope for improvement from Bouye to push Harris and McCain. If we could trade down in the 1st and add another 2nd and 3rd/4th round picks then I'd love to grab some early round CB talent. As is we've got more holes in the team than picks in the draft and sacrifices have to made somewhere. At CB we at least have some starter level talent and their are much bigger holes on the team than CB depth.

I think Barr gives us an instant pass rush and solidifies our starting LB's along with moving Reed to ILB. That instant pass rush also helps our secondary alot. Great CB's with an a poor pass rush get exposed, average CB's with a great pass rush look great.

Love this mock and would be perfectly happy if the draft fell this way. Rick only wishes his draft could be this good. I think the Texans will finish between 5-11, 6-10, that would probably put them in the 7-11 range and Barr will most likely be gone.

With that said, the Texans defense biggest problem is they are 3rd worst against the run in between the tackles. So my pick in the 1st rd would be Nix. He reminds me of a young Wilfork. Nix will command double teams and free up Watt. Mercilus should also benefit with the drafting of Nix. This will help improve the pass rush immensely. It also free's up Mitchell to play some DE and spell Crick at DE and Nix at NT. This also improves the much lacking depth along the DL.

I really like Barr though. That guy is a stud.
 
This is my first 2014 mock draft and based on our current standing of pick #5. I'm also hoping the Texans re-sign Antonio Smith at a discount that lowers his cap hit for 2 yrs..

1. Anthony Barr-OLB, great speed and pass rush and fills arguably our biggest need. We move Brooks Reed to ILB next to Cushing and our 2014 LB corp. consists of Mercilus, Cushing, Reed, Barr. That sound like a very good starting LB corp.

2. Aaron Murray-QB, Keenum played very well last weekend comparitavely to Schaub, but it's only 1 game and he made alot of mistakes as well. With time Keenum will learn and MIGHT be our QB of the future. Murray adds depth and competition. I like how Murray holds the ball high, quick release, arm strength, athletic ability, mobility, plays in the toughest conference (SEC), lots of game experience.

3. JaWaun James-OT, 3yrs. of SEC game experience starting at RT. Great run blocking ability and good pass blocking ability. Fills another huge need and I think he could start day 1. I think Quessenberry will be the starter at LG and I doubt seriously that Brennan Williams ever becomes a starter for us.

4. Tre Boston-FS, I like his size for the position as well as his history of playing CB so he should be good in pass coverage. I think Ed Reed is a 1 and done player, Manning might not be back (hopefully he is) but we need depth at Safety badly.

5. Max Bullough-ILB, great size for the position and college productivity. Provides much needed LB. corp. depth filling a huge need.

6. Andrew Norwell-OT/OG, currently playing LG but has also played LT and was depth at RT. I like his versatility and he provides much needed interior O-line depth.

7. J.C. Copeland-FB, this guy is a tank. Younger and cheaper than Greg Jones.

I think Barr, Murray, and James can be starters right away, Boston, Bullough, and Norwell provide quality depth and situational rotational players, and Copeland becomes the next Vonta Leach while saving us a little money. I'd really like a CB in this draft as well as a DE but we've got more needs than picks and I think we've got the depth at both positions to pass on these positions for 1 yr. though I sure would like some upgrades to the depth. Hopefully we can trade down in the 1st and pick up an extra 2nd and 3rd round picks. Scooter made a very good point a few days ago on another thread, the LB corp is the heart of a 3-4 defense, and the O-line is the heart of any offense and we need to solidify both. This mock provides 2 O-linemen, and 2 LB's for each of those corps. along with a QB that will compete for the starting position, a Safety that will see the field alot in nickle and dime package, some quality depth at ILB and a starter level FB.

So in this scenario you basically are saying the Texans will end up with one of the worst records, because that's probably the only way we have a chance at Barr. He'll be gone before the 10th pick. Personally, I hope we don't pick that low. I'm hoping for Case to turn the team around and we make the playoffs, but I digress....

As for Murray, I'm just not sold on any of the QB's coming out this year. It looked promising before the season, and it certainly is a better crop than this past draft class, but I guess, as the season has worn on, I just don't see any QB that looks that good. They all have wort's! There is no Luck or RGIII. Heck, I don't think they have a Ryan Tannehill in this class! I could be wrong, but as of now, I just don't see any of them being good enough to start. Murray could be good if they sit him and he has time to learn. I guess a lot will depend on what Keenum and the team do for the rest of the season. If Keenum's the guy, then I would want to use that 2nd pick on something else (maybe ILB or DE) and pick up a QB a little later.
 
So in this scenario you basically are saying the Texans will end up with one of the worst records, because that's probably the only way we have a chance at Barr. He'll be gone before the 10th pick. Personally, I hope we don't pick that low. I'm hoping for Case to turn the team around and we make the playoffs, but I digress....

As for Murray, I'm just not sold on any of the QB's coming out this year. It looked promising before the season, and it certainly is a better crop than this past draft class, but I guess, as the season has worn on, I just don't see any QB that looks that good. They all have wort's! There is no Luck or RGIII. Heck, I don't think they have a Ryan Tannehill in this class! I could be wrong, but as of now, I just don't see any of them being good enough to start. Murray could be good if they sit him and he has time to learn. I guess a lot will depend on what Keenum and the team do for the rest of the season. If Keenum's the guy, then I would want to use that 2nd pick on something else (maybe ILB or DE) and pick up a QB a little later.


When I made this mock we were in the #5 spot of the draft, I went with the current standings. We are now in the 7th/8th spot depending on which site you use. When the season is done I think we'll be selecting in the 10-12 range.

As for QB's I tend to agree with you, I'm not overly impressed by anyone yet. Nobody screams trade up and get that guy. I don't see a Luck or RGIII in this draft yet but they've got time to improve and change our minds. I like what I see in Murray, thus the reason I took him in the 2nd round. I think we need to remember that alot of these guys will get better once their season is over and they get into camps prepping them for the Combine and the NFL.


@SteelB, I really like Nix as well but when we were in the #5 spot I just couldn't pass on Anthony Barr when our LB corp. is arguably our weakest squad on the team and thus our greatest need.
 
Barr will be no better off the edge if the qb is allowed to slide and climb in the pocket. When ot's know u have 0 inside push,they just push olbs past the qb.
 
This is my first 2014 mock draft and based on our current standing of pick #5. I'm also hoping the Texans re-sign Antonio Smith at a discount that lowers his cap hit for 2 yrs..

1. Anthony Barr-OLB, great speed and pass rush and fills arguably our biggest need. We move Brooks Reed to ILB next to Cushing and our 2014 LB corp. consists of Mercilus, Cushing, Reed, Barr. That sound like a very good starting LB corp.

2. Aaron Murray-QB, Keenum played very well last weekend comparitavely to Schaub, but it's only 1 game and he made alot of mistakes as well. With time Keenum will learn and MIGHT be our QB of the future. Murray adds depth and competition. I like how Murray holds the ball high, quick release, arm strength, athletic ability, mobility, plays in the toughest conference (SEC), lots of game experience.

3. JaWaun James-OT, 3yrs. of SEC game experience starting at RT. Great run blocking ability and good pass blocking ability. Fills another huge need and I think he could start day 1. I think Quessenberry will be the starter at LG and I doubt seriously that Brennan Williams ever becomes a starter for us.

4. Tre Boston-FS, I like his size for the position as well as his history of playing CB so he should be good in pass coverage. I think Ed Reed is a 1 and done player, Manning might not be back (hopefully he is) but we need depth at Safety badly.

5. Max Bullough-ILB, great size for the position and college productivity. Provides much needed LB. corp. depth filling a huge need.

6. Andrew Norwell-OT/OG, currently playing LG but has also played LT and was depth at RT. I like his versatility and he provides much needed interior O-line depth.

7. J.C. Copeland-FB, this guy is a tank. Younger and cheaper than Greg Jones.

I'm only familiar with picks 1-5, but you'll hear 0 complaints from me. Solid and addresses the team's needs very nicely. I'm mixed on Murray but bringing him on in with a 2nd is good. I'd like to see how he develops.

Really dig James and Bullough btw. Nicely done.
 
I really like that draft Wolf .... I just have this one burning issue that we haven't ever been able to address with the right player since Seth Payne left.

Barr will be no better off the edge if the qb is allowed to slide and climb in the pocket. When ot's know u have 0 inside push, they just push olbs past the qb.


Earl Mitchell hasn't been terrible but he definitely hasn't produced enough of a push up front to force OT's to do something other than push the outside rushers beyond the QB allowing him to step up or escape out the flanks quite often ....

Mercilus & Reed have been .... Just like Barwin last season , close but just short so many times. Im beginning to think that no matter who you put on the edges , we're going to see the same thing happen until we get a push up the middle. That should also free up Watt to wreak more havoc ....

Two other issues also tied to the NT spot are teams running up the middle and keeping the ILBer clean .... two years in a row we lose Cushing , this years injury I think could have been avoided with better play from the NT spot , IE: the back being forced to chip the NT.

Many of us have been asking for a big nasty 320lb+ guy inside for .... a long time. I still want that guy inside.


I just don't know what pick to target that inside guy with as there are so many needs and your first three picks do seem to address those.
Keenum turning out to be a diamond in the rough would sure be nice allowing us to neglect the QB position and use that pick elsewhere - DT/NT or ILB .... but at this point I don't think we can bank on that.
 
Antonio's a FA next year. His cap number will be $0 if we don't resign him but at his age I doubt he'll be expecting a huge contract. We can most likely get him back cheap.

The only way Ninja signs for cheap is if his play has seriously declined. Contrary to popular belief Ninja and his agent will be looking to sign a new contract for as much money as they can negotiate. Ask yourself, what would you do in this situation. If you say you would walk away from a million or two, your lying or confused. Texans start 2014 new year w/ approx $8 mil in cap space, that's about what it will take to sign Mitchell & Ninja. What will Smubiak do to sign the remaining 13 contracts?
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Not a fan of Barr, I have watched 3 UCLA games this year and Barr is easily blocked, often stood up and when blocked he's not strong enough to disengage. I expect him to be an average OLB in the NFL.
 
The only way Ninja signs for cheap is if his play has seriously declined. Contrary to popular belief Ninja and his agent will be looking to sign a new contract for as much money as they can negotiate. Ask yourself, what would you do in this situation. If you say you would walk away from a million or two, your lying or confused. Texans start 2014 new year w/ approx $8 mil in cap space, that's about what it will take to sign Mitchell & Ninja. What will Smubiak do to sign the remaining 13 contracts?
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Not a fan of Barr, I have watched 3 UCLA games this year and Barr is easily blocked, often stood up and when blocked he's not strong enough to disengage. I expect him to be an average OLB in the NFL.

i think they re-sign ninja. schaub gone, maybe manning and OD, wade smith gone, will open up cap space
 
The only way Ninja signs for cheap is if his play has seriously declined. Contrary to popular belief Ninja and his agent will be looking to sign a new contract for as much money as they can negotiate. Ask yourself, what would you do in this situation.

The league hasn't been willing to pay veteran DLmen since the new CBA. If he wants to play, there aren't going to be a lot of teams knocking at his door with a big bag of money.

& you're out of your mind if you think we'll take a $4M cap hit for either Antonio or Mitchell in 2014. $8M for the pair... lol.
 
The league hasn't been willing to pay veteran DLmen since the new CBA. If he wants to play, there aren't going to be a lot of teams knocking at his door with a big bag of money.

& you're out of your mind if you think we'll take a $4M cap hit for either Antonio or Mitchell in 2014. $8M for the pair... lol.

Yeah, they have crick and they can draft a nt or sign one cheap. I really wanted pot roast from jax ville but he signed with denver. Raji or williams from cardinals would look nice too. The tennessee kid fits the mold. Uh yeah, wade needs to go.
 
& you're out of your mind if you think we'll take a $4M cap hit for either Antonio or Mitchell in 2014. $8M for the pair... lol.

I would not be surprised to see Mitchell $$2-$3+ mil and Ninja to get $4-$5 mil per season (and that's a 50% paycut). Freeney and Redding both 32, same as Ninja signed last yr for $4+ mil per season so expect a similar market for Ninja. It has nothing to do with the location of my mind. Several DT/NT who were starters signed their 2nd contract and got over $2 mil +. This shouldn't preclude you from continuing any on going "Wishful Thinking".
 
I would not be surprised to see Mitchell $$2-$3+ mil and Ninja to get $4-$5 mil per season (and that's a 50% paycut). Freeney and Redding both 32, same as Ninja signed last yr for $4+ mil per season so expect a similar market for Ninja. It has nothing to do with the location of my mind. Several DT/NT who were starters signed their 2nd contract and got over $2 mil +. This shouldn't preclude you from continuing any on going "Wishful Thinking".

Mitchell will have to take a huge pay cut to stay. He's a freaking ghost out there while playing in between two guys that defenses key on. He should only be offered the minimum and told he will now only come in the game to give Antonio blow. Because the only thing he's good at is blowing. :chef:
 
What would you think if Rick drafted a true NT and let Mitchell/Crick share time at DE?

Mitchell is a 3-4 NT that should be playing DE. IMHO

I think Mitchell/Crick would be an adequate combo at DE but a downgrade from Antonio backed by either one. I think if the coaching staff stays Antonio gets a 3 year deal averaging around $4 mil.

On NT I think we have definite room for improvement but I am not fixated on size. I think a player like Seth Payne in his prime would be great in this system and would push the pocket more and get double teamed more frequently than Mitchell.
 
What would you think if Rick drafted a true NT and let Mitchell/Crick share time at DE?

Mitchell is a 3-4 NT that should be playing DE. IMHO

Texans always have more pressing needs that's why. The drop off from a prospect who is considered a 1st rd. grade with a 3rd or 5th not all that significant compared to other skill positions in Wade Phillips system. For example the edge usually goes to OG's & OT. Center is a position that gets overlooked not surprisingly the position which goes head to head with the nose guard.

Star Lotulelei for example was selected 14th overall (one spot lower than JJ Watt). Solid player who has started every game but 20 tackles & one sack is not exactly comparable to other first round picks or even second round picks @ other positions. I know we discussed Kawaan Short in length last year with the 27th pick for Texans. He lasted until 44th also taken by Carolina. Rotational tackle, which is about right, 1 tackles & 1.5 sack. Compare those stats to Chris Jones, drafted by Texans late 6th 198th overall, cut by Texans then Tampa & picked up by Pats, 18 tackles 3.5 sacks.
 
Texans always have more pressing needs that's why. The drop off from a prospect who is considered a 1st rd. grade with a 3rd or 5th not all that significant compared to other skill positions in Wade Phillips system. For example the edge usually goes to OG's & OT. Center is a position that gets overlooked not surprisingly the position which goes head to head with the nose guard.

Star Lotulelei for example was selected 14th overall (one spot lower than JJ Watt). Solid player who has started every game but 20 tackles & one sack is not exactly comparable to other first round picks or even second round picks @ other positions. I know we discussed Kawaan Short in length last year with the 27th pick for Texans. He lasted until 44th also taken by Carolina. Rotational tackle, which is about right, 1 tackles & 1.5 sack. Compare those stats to Chris Jones, drafted by Texans late 6th 198th overall, cut by Texans then Tampa & picked up by Pats, 18 tackles 3.5 sacks.

If you look past the stats you will see that Star is drawing double teams. Which is allowing Johnson and Hardy to improve the pass rush. He is also keeping Kuechly (SP?) clean. Also drafting Short in the 2nd rd proves they were comitted to stopping the run, providing depth and securing the position for the next 5 yrs. A novel idea.

When is the last time you saw Mitchell draw a double team? Why are the ILB's always getting injured?

This is why I consider NT/OT/ILB to be the 3 most pressing needs. They also could use a nickle CB.

The Texans cant fix everything in 1 yr, but if they were to draft

Nix,Skov and James that would be a great start. Solid 10 yr starters at positions of need. You could do worse. Nix will command a double team which will free up JJ/Mercilus etc.... and help keep Cushing clean, like Star does for Kuechly.
 
If you look past the stats you will see that Star is drawing double teams. Which is allowing Johnson and Hardy to improve the pass rush. He is also keeping Kuechly (SP?) clean. Also drafting Short in the 2nd rd proves they were comitted to stopping the run, providing depth and securing the position for the next 5 yrs. A novel idea.

When is the last time you saw Mitchell draw a double team? Why are the ILB's always getting injured?

This is why I consider NT/OT/ILB to be the 3 most pressing needs. They also could use a nickle CB.

The Texans cant fix everything in 1 yr, but if they were to draft

Nix,Skov and James that would be a great start. Solid 10 yr starters at positions of need. You could do worse. Nix will command a double team which will free up JJ/Mercilus etc.... and help keep Cushing clean, like Star does for Kuechly.

Of course I understand what your saying, they did shut the door on need to stop the run with those two picks that fell perfectly inline this past draft. Kind of what the Texans did in free agency a couple years ago with J-lo & Manning to fix secondary, they just forgot to stay the course with their own (Glover Quin) draft pick.

I'm really torn on Nix III. Great talent, Texans WILL have a shot @ him but is he worth top 10 consideration? Then in 2nd do you go with another DT/DE who could split reps & be that rotational guy we thought Crick & McClain would become, offering Mitchell a fair but discounted home town contract?

I'm willing to go with best player on the board who fills Texan DL needs, just not sold on this draft class repeating how Carolina dealt with their own issues last season. :barman:
 
The Texans biggest problem is getting a pass rush from their front 5 without having to constantly blitz. Teams eventually figure out the blitz schemes and then are able to light up the Texans as has been evident is several games in the 2nd half this season. NT is not the highest priority in fixing this problem. IMHO I think drafting Jeremiah Attachou and Aaron Donald would be best available at correcting this problem. A player like Chris Whaley might be best suited at NT.
 
Of course I understand what your saying, they did shut the door on need to stop the run with those two picks that fell perfectly inline this past draft. Kind of what the Texans did in free agency a couple years ago with J-lo & Manning to fix secondary, they just forgot to stay the course with their own (Glover Quin) draft pick.

I'm really torn on Nix III. Great talent, Texans WILL have a shot @ him but is he worth top 10 consideration? Then in 2nd do you go with another DT/DE who could split reps & be that rotational guy we thought Crick & McClain would become, offering Mitchell a fair but discounted home town contract?

I'm willing to go with best player on the board who fills Texan DL needs, just not sold on this draft class repeating how Carolina dealt with their own issues last season. :barman:

Agree about Quin. It really made no sense at all to let him go. Signing Reed after the fact just leads one to ponder FO ineptitude. Just horrible decision making right there. Also, like you alluded to in another thread, letting Chris Jones walk was a horrible mistake. Waiving him to stash on the practice squad, but keeping healthy scratch guys like Montgomery on the active roster, again reeks of FO/coaching ineptitude. I'm still pissed about letting Jones go.

As for Nix. I really, really like him. The question is, does he make more of an impact for us than a guy like Barr, Mack, or Van Noy? Mercilus has played pretty well this year. Reed has not. Putting a top-flight pass rusher on the other side could make all the difference. Then again, having a guy in the middle that demands double teams could free up everything.
 
I'm willing to go with best player on the board who fills Texan DL needs, just not sold on this draft class repeating how Carolina dealt with their own issues last season. :barman:

Or to the detriment of other positions - particularly RT. I want to replace the turnstile Newton is at RT in the first two rounds (Or with a significant FA).

As you see in my mock , fixing the inside of the defense is at the top of my list with ILB & NT taken with the 2nd & 3rd picks.


I also don't see them having the luxury of picking two guy's at NT who are going to rotate with premium picks - even if they do go to a 4-3 as Crick is likely to move inside in that scenario.

The defense hasn't been horrible , its been serviceable. I don't think we need wholesale changes up front to fix it - Just a tweak or two on the front end. The back end tho I question keeping Reed , Manning & J.Jo because of cost & performance.

Reed was a bust. He's been outplayed by Shiloh Keo & the rookie.

Manning has been serviceable when healthy but is expensive.

J.Jo hasn't been the same since he got injured last season and has a huge cap number. He's been more the problem than the solution , I cant see paying him that big contract based upon production.

My theory is to fill RT , ILB & NT in the first three rounds of the draft , add depth at S and CB later while adding a solid veteran CB via FA along with possibly an OG to replace Wade Smith.
 
Or to the detriment of other positions - particularly RT. I want to replace the turnstile Newton is at RT in the first two rounds (Or with a significant FA).

As you see in my mock , fixing the inside of the defense is at the top of my list with ILB & NT taken with the 2nd & 3rd picks.


My theory is to fill RT , ILB & NT in the first three rounds of the draft , add depth at S and CB later while adding a solid veteran CB via FA along with possibly an OG to replace Wade Smith.

I love it!!! The only thing I'm worried about is waiting to get a NT till second or third round. After nix I just don't see anyone that impresses me.

Having said that, I wouldn't pass up Lewon or Mathews for anyone other than a franchise QB. Which not sure we will have a chance at.
 
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