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Ill Say It. Reed Looks Like Crap

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thetexanator

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he always looks like hes running half speed. he doesnt like to tackle. havent seen much from him this year. and then seeing a guy like reid on the other side makes me dislike reed even more.
 
I said it then and I'll say it now. We should have re-signed Glover Quin.

At this point in their career's, Quin is just a better player than Reed.
 
I thought last week he looked strong and was pushing the OT around. Didn't get the QB though. Trevardo? Where art thou Trevardo?

Oh, crap after reading post two you are talking about Ed, I thought Brooks. sigh
 
badboy said:
I thought last week he looked strong and was pushing the OT around. Didn't get the QB though. Trevardo? Where art thou Trevardo?

Oh, crap after reading post two you are talking about Ed, I thought Brooks. sigh
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:kubepalm: Ed Reed
 
badboy said:
I thought last week he looked strong and was pushing the OT around. Didn't get the QB though. Trevardo? Where art thou Trevardo?

Oh, crap after reading post two you are talking about Ed, I thought Brooks. sigh
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Trevardo is on IR btw.
 
CretorFrigg said:
Ed Reed looked so slow and out of position. He was certainly a weak part of the defense this game.
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I don't know for sure.
Manning bought the run fake so badly.
That made it tougher on Reed.
And Davis, even if he wasn't 100% (which we can't be sure of either) is still a very fast guy.
Who knows for sure Quin could have made that read quick enough to chase down Davis.
Heck, for all we know, Quin might have bought the run too.
 
Ed Reed looks more like 40 than 35.

He and Schaub are worth about 20% of those shiny new contacts of theirs.
 
This thread is funny because I've had this same argument with my wife several times. She's a hardcore Koolaid drinker and believes that Reed was a good signing and will pay off for us big in the playoffs. I argued that he was old and injured when we got him, he knew he was injured when he signed with us, and is a pay check leach this last year in the NFL.
 
sad that this thread could have been about both reeds in our starting lineup.

yet we have 3 young outside line backers sitting on the bench.

and we also have a young rookie at safety.

we will never know unless we try.
 
I don't think anyone in our secondary could run down Vernon Davis after that catch, Manning bit so hard on the run fake that he chipped a tooth.
 
76Texan said:
I don't know for sure.
Manning bought the run fake so badly.
That made it tougher on Reed.
And Davis, even if he wasn't 100% (which we can't be sure of either) is still a very fast guy.
Who knows for sure Quin could have made that read quick enough to chase down Davis.
Heck, for all we know, Quin might have bought the run too.
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Don't always believe what Michaels and Collinsworth tell you.
Manning was on his man on the crossing route, despite what Collinsworth might have had us believe, it was all on Reed.
 
From 05/17/13:

CloakNNNdagger said:
I read that last night. Most of my previous posts still stand re. the originally injured hip, and a "minor" tear of a contralateral hip (cartilaginous damage). With this confirmation of the new tear being on the contralateral hip, there brings into play the possibility of presence of a classic "triad" which is not uncommonly closely associated with these injuries.........i.e., hip labral tears, rectus abdominis tears [abdomen], and adductor strains in NFL players have come to be formally coined the “Sports Hip Triad.” There is nothing to be getting relaxed about by the revelation of any additional injuries to Reed's hip, even though it is on the other side. It only affirms progression of an injury history. Yet time will tell what affect it has in terms of short-term and long-term performance.
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Last week, Reed showed up on the Injury Report with an "abdomen." I suggested this being part of development of a "sports hernia" which is part of the "sports hip triad" process.

From immediately after the Seahawk's game:

CloakNNNdagger said:
I remain very skeptical. Until they test him, and test him often, I will remain skeptical. At this point, his not being tested can only be based on previous reputation. That phase will only last so long.
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He was tested this week.......

From the very beginning, based on his history of this injury and past injuries, I related the probability that Reed would not return as a useful cog on our team if he returned at all. After having had recent injections and still dealing with "breaking up scar tissue," he was not an appropriate candidate for return to begin with. Reed's strong ego, with the help of some continued poor organization decisions laced with unrealistic expectations, allowed him to specifically return in hopes of a break out performance against his old team.

There is no doubt in my mind that during this game, in one of the only plays that he experienced contact, he either extended an existing injury and/or suffered another related injury.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
From 05/17/13:



Last week, Reed showed up on the Injury Report with an "abdomen." I suggested this being part of development of a "sports hernia" which is part of the "sports hip triad" process.

From immediately after the Seahawk's game:



He was tested this week.......

From the very beginning, based on his history of this injury and past injuries, I related the probability that Reed would not return as a useful cog on our team if he returned at all. After having had recent injections and still dealing with "breaking up scar tissue," he was not an appropriate candidate for return to begin with. Reed's strong ego, with the help of some continued poor organization decisions laced with unrealistic expectations, allowed him to specifically return in hopes of a break out performance against his old team.

There is no doubt in my mind that during this game, in one of the only plays that he experienced contact, he either extended an existing injury and/or suffered another related injury.
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Agree 100% that he hurt himself somehow in this game, he was pulled late and Keo was back in. My guess is he's done, retired at this point.
 
Ed Reed pulled some parlor magic on us.

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IlliniJen said:
Ed Reed pulled some parlor magic on us.

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And everyone said I was Butthurt because he signed with the Texans...I was just warning everyone...for me it was sad to see him play like this after watching him his entire career...he is a shell of himself now...
 
Crazy how most fans are complaining about Reed after 3 games but how long did it take for the majority of us to say Schaub doesn't need to be starting for the Houston Texans? I know this is a Ed Reed thread but I think Ed deserves some more time to prove his worth to the team. Otherwise Schaub and Carr should have been long gone before all those years they racked up getting paid and sucking.
 
cstyle42 said:
Crazy how most fans are complaining about Reed after 3 games but how long did it take for the majority of us to say Schaub doesn't need to be starting for the Houston Texans? I know this is a Ed Reed thread but I think Ed deserves some more time to prove his worth to the team. Otherwise Schaub and Carr should have been long gone before all those years they racked up getting paid and sucking.
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Schaub hasn't sucked his whole time here, just lately. In fact, there have been times Schaub looked absolutely fantastic. But it's now obvious he has gone terribly downhill and needs to be put out to pasture. Except for maybe the very first game there was no time Carr looked good.
 
Thorn said:
Schaub hasn't sucked his whole time here, just lately. In fact, there have been times Schaub looked absolutely fantastic. But it's now obvious he has gone terribly downhill and needs to be put out to pasture. Except for maybe the very first game there was no time Carr looked good.
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No this is who he has always been in primetime... this same guy. Luckily he got hurt the year TJ Yates played in the playoffs. Matt Schaub was never the reason why we won games. His numbers are flawed due to the fact we were always down in games and he would bring us back to still lose most times. Last 8 games he has thrown an interception... now that the texans are relevant contender wise teams have been scouting us harder the last few years hence Schaub gets exposed and now looks worse when in reality this is the same quarterback we have always had. Wake up!
 
cstyle42 said:
No this is who he has always been in primetime... this same guy. Luckily he got hurt the year TJ Yates played in the playoffs. Matt Schaub was never the reason why we won games. His numbers are flawed due to the fact we were always down in games and he would bring us back to still lose most times. Last 8 games he has thrown an interception... now that the texans are relevant contender wise teams have been scouting us harder the last few years hence Schaub gets exposed and now looks worse when in reality this is the same quarterback we have always had. Wake up!
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How about you wake up and stick to the topic of the thread please. We have plenty of Schaub-talk threads.
 
cstyle42 said:
No this is who he has always been in primetime... this same guy. Luckily he got hurt the year TJ Yates played in the playoffs. Matt Schaub was never the reason why we won games. His numbers are flawed due to the fact we were always down in games and he would bring us back to still lose most times. Last 8 games he has thrown an interception... now that the texans are relevant contender wise teams have been scouting us harder the last few years hence Schaub gets exposed and now looks worse when in reality this is the same quarterback we have always had. Wake up!
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I'm as big a Schaub hater as anyone on this board, but that is wrong. Sorry. Schaub has shown in the past he's a very good QB, just not consistently. But now he's showing us he's not even that.

But anyway, I guess we both agree on he has to go. And I mean NOW.
 
We signed Ed Reed to help us in the second half of the season and the playoffs. That's a fact. We didn't really care all that much about his early impact and I get that. I don't hold anything against the Texans for taking a shot at Reed. I applaud them for doing it. I do think that Reed was less than honest about his hip and that he had a pretty damn good idea that he would probably never deliver on the contract he signed. I think he probably felt like he wouldn't need to put up until late in the year anyway and then maybe he felt like he had another playoff run in him at best.

unfortunately we're not going to the playoffs this year and Ed Reed isn't going to make any difference at all.

Like I said, I applaud the Texans for taking a shot at someone. I just don't understand exactly why they'd go this deep into investing in Ed Reed and not make every possible effort to pursue Manning. He's only possibly the greatest QB in the history of QB's. It's nice to see the Texans taking the rare shot at an epic move. It would be nicer if their moves made more sense though.
 
Thorn said:
I'm as big a Schaub hater as anyone on this board, but that is wrong. Sorry. Schaub has shown in the past he's a very good QB, just not consistently. But now he's showing us he's not even that.

But anyway, I guess we both agree on he has to go. And I mean NOW.
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Schaub has only been that when he is absolutely under no pressure. Playoffs and primetime games are nothing but pressure. He gave Cincinnati a touchdown last year in the playoffs. He is what he is.
 
I was not a fan of the Ed Reed signing, and to think they didn't even offer Glover Quinn any contract. They didn't even give him a chance to stay a Texan. Ed Reed is Ahman Green part deux!! Paying big for people at the end of their careers I'll never understand. Make him a coach if you want, but don't pay a player on their way out. There is a reason Baltimore didn't want him...
 
Hervoyel said:
We signed Ed Reed to help us in the second half of the season and the playoffs. That's a fact. We didn't really care all that much about his early impact and I get that. I don't hold anything against the Texans for taking a shot at Reed. I applaud them for doing it. I do think that Reed was less than honest about his hip and that he had a pretty damn good idea that he would probably never deliver on the contract he signed. I think he probably felt like he wouldn't need to put up until late in the year anyway and then maybe he felt like he had another playoff run in him at best.

unfortunately we're not going to the playoffs this year and Ed Reed isn't going to make any difference at all.

Like I said, I applaud the Texans for taking a shot at someone. I just don't understand exactly why they'd go this deep into investing in Ed Reed and not make every possible effort to pursue Manning. He's only possibly the greatest QB in the history of QB's. It's nice to see the Texans taking the rare shot at an epic move. It would be nicer if their moves made more sense though.
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Maybe they did but Manning found Kubiak's system, playcalling and overall coaching ability wanting???
 
handswarmer said:
Maybe they did but Manning found Kubiak's system, playcalling and overall coaching ability wanting???
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There is zero indication that they even sniffed in Manning's direction. Kubiak is a control-freak on offense, and given that Manning is a self-sustaining, self-aware QB robot who can break down defenses, audible, and call his own plays in the huddle, he was not a good fit for Gary's ego. OFFENSE, I mean offense. Right.
 
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