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Ok here it comes..Do the Texans look at aquiring Freeman? (Signed with Vikings)

Freeman has the physical tools, but don't think he has the mental edge it takes. Freeman might have had a chance to be a quality starter, but was going to need alot of support and proper coaching to get him there. I kind of feel bad for Freeman in a way, it seems that Schiano has gone out of his way to undermine Freeman and his confidence. Schiano seems to be acting more like some catty school girl than a HC with some of the statements and comments he's made.
 
Do the Texans have a little over 6 mil in cap space available?

Because that's what it will take to add Freeman to the roster.
 
Surprised Roethlisberger isn't a name that is thrown around here.

His team is crap, he is getting older, probably won't be the QB of the next great Steelers team, we know he can 'win the big one' why not chase him?

I am NOT proposing this, but it has been discussed by talking heads.

Why didn't we know that we could get a decent OT for a 4th & 5th round pick?
 
Because this FO never does it due diligence. I would have loved to have either one of those Tackles playing instead of Newton...

Never huh? Yeah I am sure they are sitting over there with their fingers up their butts not listening or reading any news or doing anything football related.

OR they knew the Texans didn't have cap room for the move and thought holding a press conference to satisfy fans' knowing that it was examined would be silly.
 
I would give Leinart a second chance before I signed Freeman, not even kidding.

A thread like this is proof that, despite all of the Schaub hate, there isn't a single better option; on or off the roster.

How do you know this?


I would say Yates played better in the playoff run than Schaub is playing now.
 
If you remember last year we weren't playing well, but still managed to win a lot of games & rack up a lot of stats, but when we lost... we really lost. Not just against the Greenbays or the Patriots, but anytime the other team was playing for "something" they found a way to get it done & we were left with a bunch of what ifs.

I know it's easy to say, "John Fox will never win a Super Bowl." & odds are that he won't win in 2013. I can say, "John Fox will never win a Super Bowl with Peyton Manning." Odds are still on my side that it won't happen in 2013. Then Peyton could have a game like he did last year..... long story short, it's easy to be negative about any team & being that only 1 team can win...

There's really no point to my rant. Who knew the Ravens would win the Super Bowl & the Packers would be so far away?

We'll just have to see what happens.

& that's why we love this game so much.

True, how often do the teams with the best regular season records meet in the super bowl?
It's about playing your best at the end of the year and this team has the talent. Once the OL gets their act together this team will live up to expectations. I understand being snake bit after a decade of losing, but it irks me how fickle and fair weathered some people here are acting, especially notable regulars who have thrown in the towel. Damn shame if you ask me.
 
Never huh? Yeah I am sure they are sitting over there with their fingers up their butts not listening or reading any news or doing anything football related.

OR they knew the Texans didn't have cap room for the move and thought holding a press conference to satisfy fans' knowing that it was examined would be silly.

Agreed

But whose fault is it that there isn't enough cap room to make in season moves? No cap room during the season seems to be the Texans philosophy.

Meanwhile other teams are making moves getting better in season. I'm begining to belive there's no way the Texans can make a SB, much less win a SB under the current regime.
 
I understand being snake bit after a decade of losing, but it irks me how fickle and fair weathered some people here are acting, especially notable regulars who have thrown in the towel. Damn shame if you ask me.

I don't know if they're being fickle. There are some serious questions here. I mean our defense was pretty good last year, we returned all our starters except Glover, got Cushing back, & added EdReed/(a somewhat improved)Shilo Keo........ but we gave up 28 points to San Diego in less than 3 qtrs.....

Hello!! I don't care how good San Diego may end up being, 28 points in 3 less than 3 quarters is a lot of points.

We gave up two TD drives to Tennessee, over 80 yards (to open the game & the 98 yard drive).....

Then we're scoring in bunches out of desperation & turning the ball over.

Not a lot there saying "Super Bowl Contender" then when we lose to Baltimore as if they were the 2012 Patriots.....

We're a hair away from losing 3 straight & the play on the field, collectively, doesn't give us much confidence.

I get why people are upset. It's not about losing, it's about not looking like Denver. We might not admit it, but we all expected us to, & why not? Arian is healthy. He was held out of preseason activity to get Ben some snaps. Matt says he's feeling better than he has in some time. Ed is just being Ed. DeAndre is playing better than the most wildly optimistic Texans fan could have expected. We have got 3 healthy probowlers on the offensive line, an upgrade at the RG spot, our only weakness is at RT. We upgraded to a traditional fullback....

But we can't seem to get the pieces to work together & that falls on the head of the man that we've (I include myself) wanted to get rid of since 2010 (some even longer). So I wouldn't say fickle, it's been a long time coming.
 
Never huh? Yeah I am sure they are sitting over there with their fingers up their butts not listening or reading any news or doing anything football related.

OR they knew the Texans didn't have cap room for the move and thought holding a press conference to satisfy fans' knowing that it was examined would be silly.

Not to mention, the trade partner is a division rival, which makes the deal even less likely.
 
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 5m
Filed to ESPN: Bucs have released QB Josh Freeman. Bucs tried to trade him but couldn't.

Like gas to a bonfire of Texans stupidity incoming!
 
So Seattle dismantled the 9ers, and the Texans were carving up the Hawks, but you think beating the 9ers is a long shot?

"Were" doesn't help the final score for jack for the Texans, which BTW was played at home, and not on the road like the next one. Considering:

-Schaub's decision making at crucial times in the game, coupled with his 3 pick six's in as many games
-A VERY beat up offensive line
-A prime time road game against last year's super bowl runner up whos QB is very mobile (which the Texans always have trouble stopping)
-The blowout loss to Baltimore and the nail-biting way the Texans barely got their 2 wins
-The way the secondary has allowed dumb penalties/bad coverage so far this season
-The way Kubiak keeps dialing up the same predictable formations that the 49ers are no doubt prepared for since they've had extra time to do so.

......forgive me if I'm not ODing on the Schauberry kool aid like you are.
 
Question.

Do you think Schaub would be able to handle the "pressure" if Josh Freeman were brought in?

Do you think he should be able to?

I ask, because many people are saying we should be looking to draft & prepare Schaub's replacement. No doubt about it, it's different to bring in a drafted rookie than a previous starter, but if the Texans were to bring him in, on the cheap of course, as the eventual replacement, do you think Schaub's psyche would be up to it?
 
Gary Kubiak and Rick Smith probably had a talk about Josh Freeman already. If they think he's an upgrade over either T.J. Yates or Case Keenum, he's definitely worth signing right now. My question is would it be possible to place Keenum on the practice squad or would another team be able to sign him? A team like the Eagles, for example, keep eyeing players off our practice squad.
 
Question.

Do you think Schaub would be able to handle the "pressure" if Josh Freeman were brought in?

Do you think he should be able to?

I ask, because many people are saying we should be looking to draft & prepare Schaub's replacement. No doubt about it, it's different to bring in a drafted rookie than a previous starter, but if the Texans were to bring him in, on the cheap of course, as the eventual replacement, do you think Schaub's psyche would be up to it?
I don't think Matt Schaub can handle the pressure to be honest. Which is why he usually fails in the big games. Not as bad as Tony Romo from Dallas but it seems like when we need a big win on the brightest of lights, Schaub falls apart and crumbles.
 
Question.

Do you think Schaub would be able to handle the "pressure" if Josh Freeman were brought in?

Do you think he should be able to?

I ask, because many people are saying we should be looking to draft & prepare Schaub's replacement. No doubt about it, it's different to bring in a drafted rookie than a previous starter, but if the Texans were to bring him in, on the cheap of course, as the eventual replacement, do you think Schaub's psyche would be up to it?
Schaub can't handle the pressure, regardless of Freeman and yes, I think he should be able to.

I still haven't heard anything close to a convincing argument against Yates. I was a HUUUUUUGE Keenum supporter in the PS, but I think Yates can do just fine as a starter. He's shown he has a very good handle on the offense and has big time starting experience. I see no reason to expect Yates to revert back to rookie form if he's starting and Kubiak will usually go with experience when given the choice.
 
If we're gonna replace Schaub, we need to do it with a potential franchise QB, not a scrub like Freeman.
 
If we're gonna replace Schaub, we need to do it with a potential franchise QB, not a scrub like Freeman.
This team is so stacked we don't need an elite QB to win a Super Bowl with. All we need is somebody who doesn't make boneheaded mistakes and turnovers. Give me a good game manager like Alex Smith and we'd be talking about becoming NFL champions. He's doing a mighty fine job in Kansas City I might add.
 
This team is so stacked we don't need an elite QB to win a Super Bowl with. All we need is somebody who doesn't make boneheaded mistakes and turnovers. Give me a good game manager like Alex Smith and we'd be talking about becoming NFL champions. He's doing a mighty fine job in Kansas City I might add.

When I mentioned Smith last year (just before Schaub was extended) I was laughed out of the building .... Now I don't seem so silly afterall.


I'd have taken Smith then , I'd take him now. 23-5-1 as a starter in the NFL from 2011/12&13 .... those are gaudy numbers even if his stats are pedestrian.
 
When I mentioned Smith last year (just before Schaub was extended) I was laughed out of the building .... Now I don't seem so silly afterall.

I'd have taken Smith then , I'd take him now. 23-5-1 as a starter in the NFL from 2011/12&13 .... those are gaudy numbers even if his stats are pedestrian.

I still don't think Smith is any better than Schaub. Trust me, I'm not a Schaub fan at all and would like to see him benched, but the fact is Alex Smith has been on teams with a lot of talent. I don't have the exact numbers, but I'm willing to bet Smith's passing attempts per game are much lower than Schaub's. We're not just a running team. We rely on the pass as well, and I don't believe Smith offers that.

Wins don't make a player good. It's a team game. Doesn't Tebow have a ridiculous amount of wins as a starter as well?

With that said, I would love for the Texans to take a look at Freeman. With the right coaching, I think he can be a much better passer than Matt Schaub. But then again, that's not saying much...
 
pic related is all I have to say about Alex Smith.


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I still don't think Smith is any better than Schaub. Trust me, I'm not a Schaub fan at all and would like to see him benched, but the fact is Alex Smith has been on teams with a lot of talent. I don't have the exact numbers, but I'm willing to bet Smith's passing attempts per game are much lower than Schaub's. We're not just a running team. We rely on the pass as well, and I don't believe Smith offers that.

Wins don't make a player good. It's a team game. Doesn't Tebow have a ridiculous amount of wins as a starter as well?

With that said, I would love for the Texans to take a look at Freeman. With the right coaching, I think he can be a much better passer than Matt Schaub. But then again, that's not saying much...

Here's a post from before Schaub was extended showing Smith's 2011 attempts Vs Int's .....


Smith is a limited QB like Schaub .... he is a little more mobile tho.

Upgrade ? I don't know .... but like Schaub Smith doesn't make many mistakes. He threw a total of 5 INT's in 445 attempts last season. That's taking care of the ball.
He's also more mobile and has a stronger arm .... even if only marginally better in either.

That's a QB who went 13-3 last year and was on track to repeat that prior to being sidelined by an injury, Smith was 6-2 as the starter while Colin Kaepernick has gone 4-2-1 with that same team .... with a loss and tie to a .500 Rams team.

Stats from NLF.com


Attempts / Int's / Int percentage.

Smith
2011 445/5 1.1%
2012 218/5 (injury shortened benched for Kaepernick the final 6) 2.3%
2013 146/2 1.4%


Schaub
2011 292/6 2.1% (Lisfranc injury)
2012 544/12 2.2%
2013 177/6 3.4%
 
"Were" doesn't help the final score for jack for the Texans, which BTW was played at home, and not on the road like the next one. Considering:

-Schaub's decision making at crucial times in the game, coupled with his 3 pick six's in as many games
-A VERY beat up offensive line
-A prime time road game against last year's super bowl runner up whos QB is very mobile (which the Texans always have trouble stopping)
-The blowout loss to Baltimore and the nail-biting way the Texans barely got their 2 wins
-The way the secondary has allowed dumb penalties/bad coverage so far this season
-The way Kubiak keeps dialing up the same predictable formations that the 49ers are no doubt prepared for since they've had extra time to do so.

......forgive me if I'm not ODing on the Schauberry kool aid like you are.

Is that all you got? "ODing on Schauberry Kool aid" What, are 13 or 14 years old? And geez thanks for pointing out it is a road game captain obvious. I will now change my opinion since you pointed that out to me and the Texans have never won on the road either. I mean, why even make the flight? The Texans have no chance right?

Last years super bowl runner up does not mean squat. That was last year, and they look nothing like last years team, nor does Kaepernick look like the superman you all are making him out to be.

The Texans did not have a problem containing a mobile QB against the Hawks until the 4th quarter when Phillips went away from the spy and Cushing was out of the game. You just pull every anecdotal excuse out and throw it out there. All so if the Texans lose you can say, "See I Told You So." Just keep following the herd and keep using phrases like ODing on Schuaberry kool aid.

If the Colts beat them, the Texans can beat them.

Haterade anyone?
 
The Texans did not have a problem containing a mobile QB against the Hawks until the 4th quarter when Phillips went away from the spy and Cushing was out of the game. You just pull every anecdotal excuse out and throw it out there. All so if the Texans lose you can say, "See I Told You So." Just keep following the herd and keep using phrases like ODing on Schuaberry kool aid.

If the Colts beat them, the Texans can beat them.

Haterade anyone?

Phillips didn't go away from the spy .... the only difference was C(r)ushing being replaced by Sharpto(o)n).


Damnit , I hope like hell the Texans win this next game , the difference between making the playoffs at 2-3 (>20%) Vs. that of a 3-2 team (<51%) is pretty significant.
 
The Texans did not have a problem containing a mobile QB against the Hawks until the 4th quarter when Phillips went away from the spy and Cushing was out of the game. You just pull every anecdotal excuse out and throw it out there. All so if the Texans lose you can say, "See I Told You So." Just keep following the herd and keep using phrases like ODing on Schuaberry kool aid.

If the Colts beat them, the Texans can beat them.

Haterade anyone?

Phillips didn't go away from the spy .... the only difference was C(r)ushing being replaced by Sharpto(o)n).


Damnit , I hope like hell the Texans win this next game , the difference between making the playoffs at 2-3 (>20%) Vs. that of a 3-2 team (<51%) is pretty significant.
 
Just like I think benching Schaub after that second INT vs Seattle, I think it would be a good idea to "work out" Josh Freeman.

If Schaub can't handle it, it's telling. This coddling, HC falling on the sword for him doesn't appear to be working & I think he needs a kick in the butt.

I believe Schaub can turn it around, I need that to happen sooner rather than later. If he had called the player's only meeting (I know how pointless many think this is) I'd feel better about Matt being on the right track. As it is, I think he needs help to get where he needs to be.

& if the coaches are aware of any "possible" issues with his foot their current approach does not make any sense.
 
Just like I think benching Schaub after that second INT vs Seattle, I think it would be a good idea to "work out" Josh Freeman.

If Schaub can't handle it, it's telling. This coddling, HC falling on the sword for him doesn't appear to be working & I think he needs a kick in the butt.

I believe Schaub can turn it around, I need that to happen sooner rather than later. If he had called the player's only meeting (I know how pointless many think this is) I'd feel better about Matt being on the right track. As it is, I think he needs help to get where he needs to be.

& if the coaches are aware of any "possible" issues with his foot their current approach does not make any sense.


This is the biggest game of Schaubs career coming up. All of this right track talk can only be answered on Sunday.
 
You absolutely bring Freeman in for a workout. If Schaub is such a puss that he can't take the pressure, then I think that speaks for itself.
 
You absolutely bring Freeman in for a workout. If Schaub is such a puss that he can't take the pressure, then I think that speaks for itself.

If they did not bring Manning in even to talk, what makes you think they would work out Freeman? C'mon man.
 
If the Texans dont have the balls to bench their QB for poor play when they have an experienced backup and a young full of potential 3rd stringer, then there is no reason to bring Freeman in.
 
If they did not bring Manning in even to talk, what makes you think they would work out Freeman? C'mon man.

Matt Schaub had just come off his 3 best seasons as a starter, why would you be looking to replace him at that time?

Right now, he hasn't had a good game in his last 10...... a couple of good quarters, but not a single good game. They've been stroking him since January & so far it doesn't appear to be working.
 
If the Texans dont have the balls to bench their QB for poor play when they have an experienced backup and a young full of potential 3rd stringer, then there is no reason to bring Freeman in.

It's another bluff. Send Matt to the airport to pick up Freeman, bring him in to Rick Smith's office with Kubiak, Dennison, the QB coach. Laugh it up. ask Matt for his realtor's name, day care information.... y'know.

Get him over to Methodist training center, throw a couple of deep balls to Andre, to Hopkins.... see if Keyshawn Martin can outrun his arm.....

Then send him on his way at the end of the day.
 
Matt Schaub had just come off his 3 best seasons as a starter, why would you be looking to replace him at that time?

Right now, he hasn't had a good game in his last 10...... a couple of good quarters, but not a single good game. They've been stroking him since January & so far it doesn't appear to be working.

Why you ask? Because it was Peyton Freakin' Manning and he wanted to play for the Texans.
 
There is no pressure that would come from bringing in Josh Freeman. Matt Schaub may not be what we want him to be, but he's not dumb. He won't be fooled by bringing in someone who has literally zero chance of impacting his job.
 
I have zero interest in Freeman. He doesn't need to be worked out because he sucks, plain and simple. If you want to put pressure on Schaub, you bench him for one of the QBs already on the roster.
 
When Peyton Manning is available to QB your football team you say "Yes".

It's really that simple.

I know it sounds simple, but we're cursed. No doubt in my mind it would have ended like the Culpepper thing in Miami, the Ahman Green thing here, he Bosselli thing here, & the way some are expecting the Reed thing to end.
 
Why you ask? Because it was Peyton Freakin' Manning and he wanted to play for the Texans.

there was NO FREAKING WAY the Texans could have afforded Peyton Manning. End of discussion. Hell they had to cut their starting RT and RG, trade a very good MLB and let go of their #1 draft pick to get under the cap, and they didn't get under by much....
 
there was NO FREAKING WAY the Texans could have afforded Peyton Manning. End of discussion. Hell they had to cut their starting RT and RG, trade a very good MLB and let go of their #1 draft pick to get under the cap, and they didn't get under by much....

This. Was he actually interested or was that just a rumor? I recall it was the latter.
 
there was NO FREAKING WAY the Texans could have afforded Peyton Manning. End of discussion. Hell they had to cut their starting RT and RG, trade a very good MLB and let go of their #1 draft pick to get under the cap, and they didn't get under by much....

Anything is possible, and for one of the greatest to ever play, it should have at least been talked about, tossed around, etc. If Denver found a way, the Texans could have found a way.

This. Was he actually interested or was that just a rumor? I recall it was the latter.

Hard to say for sure, but here are a few links.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/sports/pro/football&id=8542447

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2013/09/how_many_things_can_you_find_w.php

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-may-be-interested-in-playing-for-the-texans/

http://www.stampedeblue.com/2012/2/...he-houston-texans-i-think-im-going-to-be-sick
 
When Peyton Manning is available to QB your football team you say "Yes".

It's really that simple.

It's not that easy. Keep in mind, he was coming off neck surgery where no one knew of his current condition. He would not have public workouts. There were rumors his arm was weak. People did not know how his body would react if he took a big hit. And while he was at it, he's asking to be the highest paid QB in the league. It's not that easy of a decision.

It was easy for Denver, because they made it to the 2nd round with arguably the worst starting QB in the league. They almost had nothing to lose going for Peyton.

Now looking back, seeing how Peyton has played, it's easy to say we should have signed him. If we knew for sure he'd be playing at this level, I think almost every team in the league would have done as much as possible to get him. I even think the Colts would have tried to keep him.


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Matt Schaub had just come off his 3 best seasons as a starter, why would you be looking to replace him at that time?
.

Why...?
Because we should ALWAYS be looking to upgrade.
Love him or hate him, Peyton would have been/would be an upgrade over Schaub.

...or are you inferring Schaub and Manning are equivalent?
 
Why...?
Because we should ALWAYS be looking to upgrade.
Love him or hate him, Peyton would have been/would be an upgrade over Schaub.

...or are you inferring Schaub and Manning are equivalent?

He's got one Super Bowl in an 80 year career. I think we'll be ok.


Don't get me wrong, I love me some forehead. Best QB of our generation. But teams win Super Bowls. He landed on a good team, a talented team, but I don't think he's going to win a Super Bowl in Denver. Too much "Peyton" not enough team, & it's going to be that way no matter where he goes.

They're going to look good doing it, their fans are going to be happy with year after year of close but the Texans whupped datass
 
Is that all you got? "ODing on Schauberry Kool aid" What, are 13 or 14 years old?

LOL I'm not the one acting like people are talking bad about my Mommy. Sorry if you can't handle the fact that people don't have the same lovely visions of Matt Schaub's passing skills as you do. Just maybe lead killing pick 6's has something to do with it. Might wanna try giving that some thought.

And geez thanks for pointing out it is a road game captain obvious.

You are welcome, since you clearly haven't been watching the Texans very much lately. BTW, no game is an instant win for the Texans as you are screaming. You'd think that the 2 losses would be a dead giveaway, but I can only speak for myself.

Last years super bowl runner up does not mean squat. That was last year, and they look nothing like last years team, nor does Kaepernick look like the superman you all are making him out to be.

No, only Matt Schaub wears that cape, according to you.:smiliepalm:

If the Colts beat them, the Texans can beat them.

Speaking of obvious, LOL. Any team technically "can" beat their opponent, but I have some sad news for you dude, it WON'T happen if Schaub keeps losing leads by throwing pick 6's, but we are not supposed to talk about that, are we?:mariopalm:
 
LOL I'm not the one acting like people are talking bad about my Mommy. Sorry if you can't handle the fact that people don't have the same lovely visions of Matt Schaub's passing skills as you do. Just maybe lead killing pick 6's has something to do with it. Might wanna try giving that some thought.

I can handle it just fine, but it is a bit more than just expressing the dislike for Schaub or pick 6's so stop being melodramatic. The fact is Schaub haters ignore his passing skills and accomplishments and only point out his mistakes without any regard to what the rest of the team is doing. Schaub has not been throwing pick 6's every game for 7 years like you try to make it out to be. Maybe you out to give that some thought.

You are welcome, since you clearly haven't been watching the Texans very much lately. BTW, no game is an instant win for the Texans as you are screaming. You'd think that the 2 losses would be a dead giveaway, but I can only speak for myself.

No, don't be ridiculous, I mean that would be silly to actually watch the games. I prefer to just make this stuff as I go along. I never said any game was an instant win so do not put words in my mouth, and btw... the 9ers have to losses also, along with many other teams in the league, so all of the teams with 2 losses in week 4 are out of the playoff picture is that it? What kind of a dead giveaway is that?

No, only Matt Schaub wears that cape, according to you.:smiliepalm:

There you go putting words in my mouth again. But he certainly is the the one wearing the cape out of the all of the QB's we have on our roster. Any of us will admit Schaub is slow footed, and has made mistakes like all QB's do, it's just that we all know he is the best we got right now, and he is not the problem with the offense. When given time in the pocket he carves up top ranked defenses like a thanksgiving turkey, when the O Line is like a swinging gate, you get sacks, mistakes, and yes even pick 6's, and I do not care who you put back there, if the O Line can't block the defenders, they will all fail.

Speaking of obvious, LOL. Any team technically "can" beat their opponent, but I have some sad news for you dude, it WON'T happen if Schaub keeps losing leads by throwing pick 6's, but we are not supposed to talk about that, are we?:mariopalm:

Really? Wow! Did you come up with that all on your own? I mean, I never understood that pick 6's were bad until you pointed that out. Gee thanks professor. I feel so much more informed now. Hmm, did Schaub throw a pick 6 against the Titans? remind me again who won that game? Oooops... there goes your theory.

Once again you act as if it has just been some harmless talk about Schaub's pick 6's, yet as I pointed out earlier, Schaub needed two policemen to escort him to the post game interview. Don't be a tool dude. Nobody cares about people discussing things, but the attack on Schaub since the Hawks loss has been a tad bit more than just talk. And for the record since you can't seem to see past the QB position. The team lost that game with mistakes by all phases, not just Schaub. So keep on cryin' because you had to endure a 2nd loss and the season is now lost because of it. Because you all sound so very rational and informed.
 
I can handle it just fine, but it is a bit more than just expressing the dislike for Schaub or pick 6's so stop being melodramatic. The fact is Schaub haters ignore his passing skills and accomplishments and only point out his mistakes without any regard to what the rest of the team is doing. Schaub has not been throwing pick 6's every game for 7 years like you try to make it out to be. Maybe you out to give that some thought.

Before everything went South, when we were in control of the Seahawk game, I was thinking.... y'know, if Schaub keeps this up, we're going to spank Seattle & everyone's going to say Schaub had a "good" game. That he played fine.

It's very subtle, when he's playing well, in rhythm, in control. Like Mario Williams or Arian Foster, he makes it look effortless.
 
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