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Browns receiver Josh Gordon suspended 2 games

Coolhandsluke2 said:
Can someone please explain to me why the NFL does not release what they tested positive for? Pretty much letting the athletes make up whatever BS story they want.
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NFLPA negotiated that.

Of note generally...
Absent a violation of the law, a suspension under the substance-abuse policy happens only if a player commits multiple violations. For players like Josh Gordon...that’s a lot of violations to rack up in only one year.

Once a player is in the substance-abuse program, he knows he’s going to be tested. To end up getting suspended means that he has continued to test positive even when he knows he’s going to be tested — unless, of course, the subsequent violations come from failing to comply with the testing requirements.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/07/chudzinski-statement-says-little-while-saying-a-lot/
 
infantrycak said:
That would be revealing private medical information. Can't do it without player consent.
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Speaking of which, PFT reports Josh Gordon says he took cough medicine containing Codeine.

“In February, I was diagnosed with strep throat for which a doctor prescribed antibiotics and cough medicine. Apparently, the medicine I took contained codeine, which is prohibited by the NFL policy,” Gordon said in the statement.
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Josh Gordon faces season long suspension
Updated: May 9, 2014, 6:05 PM ET
By T.J. Quinn and Don Van Natta Jr. | ESPN.com
Cleveland Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon could face a season-long suspension after a second failed drug test months ago, this time for marijuana, sources told "Outside the Lines" on Friday.

Reached by phone Friday afternoon, Gordon said: "That's something you're going to have to talk to [agent] Drew Rosenhaus about. I really don't know anything about it."

Josh Gordon could face a season-long suspension after a second failed drug test months ago, this time for marijuana, sources told "Outside the Lines."

Asked whether he planned an appeal of his suspension and test, Gordon said, "I'm going to have to find out about that later. You need to call Drew," before hanging up.
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You can't take the stupid out of some people. How long is the NFL window?. You seriously can't wait until your mid 30s to do all this crap?.
 
revan said:
You can't take the stupid out of some people. How long is the NFL window?. You seriously can't wait until your mid 30s to do all this crap?.
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amazing isnt it? guys would break their bodies and live the next 15 years on tofu and water if that's what it took to even have a chance of making it in the NFL. and yet, guys like gordon are poised to go bigtime and cant put the pipe down long enough to make millions playing the biggest sport in america.

you cant fix stupid.
 
revan said:
You can't take the stupid out of some people. How long is the NFL window?. You seriously can't wait until your mid 30s to do all this crap?.
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I'm surprised we haven't had suggestions that we trade for Gordon yet. Bad behavior seems to excite some of our posters for some reason.
 
revan said:
You can't take the stupid out of some people. How long is the NFL window?. You seriously can't wait until your mid 30s to do all this crap?.
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This is true, but damn weed should obviously be legal. Can sell destructive alcohol at games... We are reaching that point though. By 2020 I say.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
This is true, but damn weed should obviously be legal. Can sell destructive alcohol at games... We are reaching that point though. By 2020 I say.
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damn weed caused stupid decision probably costing millions so spread it to others? I think it should be legal also but things like this make me wonder about people. Guess it depends on the people.
 
Lucky said:
I'm surprised we haven't had suggestions that we trade for Gordon yet. Bad behavior seems to excite some of our posters for some reason.
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I'd totally take a flyer on this guy. Get him for a box of rocks and you haven't really risked anything. Mcnair would never do it though.
 
Texecutioner said:
Because he smoked some pot? Lol!

I think you could use some of that by the way.
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It's not about the pot. It's about the fact that it's illegal in the NFL and he keeps getting busted for it. He's stupid. He's got all the talent in the world and he's wasting it for drugs. He's a loser. He's dumb as hell. He's a liability.

Millions of people would kill to have what he has and he's throwing it away repeatedly. He's a ****ing IDIOT.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
...He's stupid. He's got all the talent in the world and he's wasting it for drugs. He's a loser. He's dumb as hell... Millions of people would kill to have what he has and he's throwing it away repeatedly. He's a ****ing IDIOT.
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In spite of dire consequences -- extreme financial harm and potential loss of all of his "high earnings years" that would set him up for life -- Gordon continues smoking marijuana when he knows he's going to be tested...

Now this isn't some college kid doing something stupid, this is a grown man who has been multply warned in very clear terms that his life-long financial future is at stake, yet he lights up. Maybe he has a problem.
 
Playoffs said:
In spite of dire consequences -- extreme financial harm and potential loss of all of his "high earnings years" that would set him up for life -- Gordon continues smoking marijuana when he knows he's going to be tested...

Now this isn't some college kid doing something stupid, this is a grown man who has been multply warned in very clear terms that his life-long financial future is at stake, yet he lights up. Maybe he has a problem.
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And his problem isn't pot smoking. His problem is being an idiot.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
It's not about the pot. It's about the fact that it's illegal in the NFL and he keeps getting busted for it. He's stupid. He's got all the talent in the world and he's wasting it for drugs. He's a loser. He's dumb as hell. He's a liability.

Millions of people would kill to have what he has and he's throwing it away repeatedly. He's a ****ing IDIOT.
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I understand that. Yes, he is a moron for sure. I'd still take the talent with him, because his pot smoking isn't a big problem other than him being suspended. Any team that would take a chance on him probably wouldn't invest hardly anything in him. If you can get a guy that talented for nothing than I don't see it as a big deal personally. I don't think the you have to worry though. If a guy gets a parking ticket, Mcnair usually doesn't want the guy on the team. We are the last team that would ever pick him up most likely.
 
Lucky said:
Thanks for restoring my faith.
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He hasn't gotten in trouble for felonies or violence. It's been for small drug charges. Why not take a flyer if you're giving up almost nothing of him? How are you hurting your team by doing that? It's a low risk high reward type of thing. I didn't say to sign the guy for anything significant. I don't think that any team would at this point. But what do you have to lose if you sign a guy like that whose main problem is smoking pot and you're signing him for next to nothing? I just don't see that as a risk at all where a major reward can come from it possibly. I wouldn't see him as any long term answer either.

Either way, this is just for conversation sake. I know there isn't a chance in hell the Texans would touch this guy.
 
Evidently Browns FO knew about this going into the draft and added Manziel without drafting a WR! Really poor foresight, imo. Deepest WR draft in years and they pass.
 
What the hell is the point of signing someone who's going to be suspended off and on his entire career? He could have all the talent in the world but if he isn't on the field to utilize it then who cares?
 
Playoffs said:
Evidently Browns FO knew about this going into the draft and added Manziel without drafting a WR! Really poor foresight, imo. Deepest WR draft in years and they pass.
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Yeah. If they had gotten Sammy Watkins and then traded up for Manziel anyway... damn. That would have been a fun combo to watch.
 
NFL "Analysts": And we're here in the 7th round of the draft, and the consensus is that the Browns have made a big mistake in not addressing the WR position after the news broke of the impending Gordon suspension. What idiots.
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...5 days later...

NFL "Analysts": Ohhh, right. Free agency - forgot about that.
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I think it is a good signing for the Browns (depending on the financials). I presume they got him a lot cheaper than they would have if he were signing a contract after his 2012 season. Fills a need with a proven receiver and with Bennett helps to cover the losses and give someone Manziel a couple of targets who aren't absolute shots in the dark.
 
Matt Anderson @MAndersonWKYC
#Browns WR Josh Gordon Arrested For Driving While Impaired- Book In Wake Co. N.C Detention Center At 4AM
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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
DWI in Raleigh is driving subject to an impairing substance. Police captain Tommy Klein added, “appreciably impaired.”

Browns WR Josh Gordon was arrested in Raleigh, N.C. for DWI – driving while impaired, according to Raleigh police captain Tommy Klein.
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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
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If Gordon doesn't get at least a season-long suspension now (which was suspiciously already being reconsidered), there is no way that Goodell and the NFL will not have manipulated things to specifically give overhyped Manziel a free bee (which in the long run I doubt makes little difference).
 
Clown - "Ooh, boy you are tied to that track and that stupid train just kept running over you now, didn't it? Running over you."
 
Only 2 months after failing his last drug test.

From USA TODAY:

Gordon was arrested on a charge of driving while impaired in Raleigh, N.C., early Saturday morning. Raleigh Police spokesman Jim Sughrue told USA TODAY Sports that Gordon was pulled over just before 3 a.m. for driving 50 mph in a 35 mph zone, and was subsequently arrested for DWI.
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D'Qwell Jackson@DQ52
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If you're close to Josh Gordon please help this kid, it's not about football anymore it's about picking up the pieces of his life.


2:19 PM - 5 Jul 2014
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The amount is usually not enough to make you test positive. Most drug tests have intentionally high standards to avoid false positive results due to incidental ingestion of second-hand smoke. You'd have to be couped up for hours in an almost sealed 5x5 foot room to possibly cause a test positive in a drug test administered within 12 hours. You're not going to see this in even a half-way ventilated enclosed garage full of marijuana-smoking partiers.
 
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
The Josh Gordon appeals hearing ended at 7 pm tonight and was continued to Monday afternoon, source says #marathon

#Browns WR Josh Gordon’s appeals hearing… is still going. #andgoing #andgoing
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Should go that long unless there's a compromise brewing, imo.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The amount is usually not enough to make you test positive. Most drug tests have intentionally high standards to avoid false positive results due to incidental ingestion of second-hand smoke. You'd have to be couped up for hours in an almost sealed 5x5 foot room to possibly cause a test positive in a drug test administered within 12 hours. You're not going to see this in even a half-way ventilated enclosed garage full of marijuana-smoking partiers.
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The NFL standards for a failed drug test for marijuana are something ridiculously low like 15ng/ml. Olympics and Cycling test fail at 50ng/ml which is obviously much much higher and is that way intentionally so the second hand smoke excuse does not pop up.
 
b0ng said:
The NFL standards for a failed drug test for marijuana are something ridiculously low like 15ng/ml. Olympics and Cycling test fail at 50ng/ml which is obviously much much higher and is that way intentionally so the second hand smoke excuse does not pop up.
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It is 15 ng/ml but now with all the states with medicinal/legal marijuana they are going to move it up possibly as high as 150 ng/ml which is the Olympic standard. Read a report about it a few days ago, sorry don't recall where.
 
infantrycak said:
It is 15 ng/ml but now with all the states with medicinal/legal marijuana they are going to move it up possibly as high as 150 ng/ml which is the Olympic standard. Read a report about it a few days ago, sorry don't recall where.
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Interesting although I wonder how much resistance there will be to raising the limit (I guess there will be less resistance if Gordon wins his appeal, which probably isn't happening).
 
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