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Ed Reed agrees to terms with Texans

Texn4life said:
From all accounts she's a reputable reporter and agents don't tend to burn bridges since they're probably going to have to do business with the team again in the future most likely. So yeah, its a possibility they're lying through their teeth about the Texans not offering, but until we hear otherwise that's what I'll believe happened.
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Did you ever check out her arrest record? While dismissed it's pretty much akin to Corrosion (allegedly) getting into a fight at the Colorado, where I (allegedly) punched someone in their ****ing mellon head.

"Agents don't tend to burn bridges"?

Are you kidding me???? In no specific order:
A) Drew Rosenhaus
B) Scott Boras
C) Leigh Steinberg
 
htowntexans1985 said:
So you want to go into next season with a rookie safety and Shiloh keo? Step away from your keyboard bruh. Reed will be an awesome leader and will add an edge to that defense they don't currently have. They need someone older to stop them from having these gimmicks that went on last year. I doubt he would have participated in any type of letterman fiasco. They need to be all about that journey for that ring.
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Exactly!

Let me see Keo or Reed to start in the season opener?????

.......and lay off the weed.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Did you ever check out her arrest record? While dismissed it's pretty much akin to Corrosion (allegedly) getting into a fight at the Colorado, where I (allegedly) punched someone in their ****ing mellon head.

"Agents don't tend to burn bridges"?

Are you kidding me???? In no specific order:
A) Drew Rosenhaus
B) Scott Boras
C) Leigh Steinberg
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Her arrest has nothing to do with her reporting. And I've never seen where an agent lies about a time whether a team even offers or not. But your point is well recognized. You don't believe her and I do. When I see someone refute the story I'll change my mind.
 
One big thing y'all need to be careful with with Reed is his ever looming nerve impingement in his neck.

For two seasons, he's been one wrong hit away from retirement. Don't expect much tackling from him at this point in his career.

Hate seeing him go still.
 
Colts signed LaRon Landry so take them out of the Ed Reed sweepstakes.

It's down to us and the 49ers. Lets hope AJ seals the deal and Ed Reed signs tomorrow.

Would hate for him to leave Reliant without a contract signature.
 
If we sign Reed we need to get a backup for real. He is talented but has a missed games in the past, guy is 34. He would be a good short term solution but we got to get a competent backup because I doubt he will play all 16 games. What really gets me is how they went about dealing with Quin. If the Texans FO says your are a top priority that means you are gone. I really don't understand why they would say that and not even offer him a contract. If I remember correctly they did the same thing last year with Mario. If it were me I would just not say anything at all or tell the guy the truth. Quin was probably confused as hell...thinking he is the top FA priority after reading what the Texans put out there and then the FO effectively showing no interest in resigning him. Strange way of doing things IMO.
 
SW H-TOWN said:
If the Texans FO says your are a top priority that means you are gone. I really don't understand why they would say that and not even offer Quin a contract. If I remember correctly they did the same thing last year with Mario. If it were me I would just not say anything at all or tell the guy the truth. Quin was probably confused as hell...thinking he is the top FA priority after reading what the Texans put out there and then the FO effectively showing no interest in resigning him. Strange way of doing things IMO.
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I heard McClain quote this all the time, but I never heard anyone in the Texans FO say it. Not saying they didn't, but I never personally saw or heard it directly from them.
 
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SW H-TOWN said:
Here is some stuff from the Texan's website. I should take out top and just have put priority. Still strange to me how they said he was a priority and did not offer him a contract.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...r-Texans/944416ca-0610-45aa-85ec-a783dc991d79
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Yeah, I can see how that's pretty messed up in hindsight but I guess its better than them saying we think we can do better and wish them well. Probably best to say nothing, but that's kind of a no win situation there.
 
**** it. Lets fill all our defensive holes with cheaper quality veterans at the end of their careers. Sign Reed to take Quins place, Freeney or Umenyiora to take Barwins place and Hampton or Seymour to replace Cody.
 
Texn4life said:
Yeah, I can see how that's pretty messed up in hindsight but I guess its better than them saying we think we can do better and wish them well. Probably best to say nothing, but that's kind of a no win situation there.
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Yep, I would not say anything either or dodge the question mostly because the players see how Smith said Quin was a priority and then treated him like a non priority by not offering him any sort of contract. The GM did not gain any respect or earn any trust with the guys in pads today.
 
mussop said:
**** it. Lets fill all our defensive holes with cheaper quality veterans at the end of their careers. Sign Reed to take Quins place, Freeney or Umenyiora to take Barwins place and Hampton or Seymour to replace Cody.
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Cody ****ing blows, he may as well be an old man with that back of his.
 
mussop said:
**** it. Lets fill all our defensive holes with cheaper quality veterans at the end of their careers. Sign Reed to take Quins place, Freeney or Umenyiora to take Barwins place and Hampton or Seymour to replace Cody.
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If we could do that without destroying the cap, I have no doubt we'd be a better team.

Look, we had too much youth last year. Consider that we have another 11 draft picks this year, I'm not concerned with getting too old. Of course, I don't really want 6 guys on defense that are all around 35, but I'll certainly take a couple of qualtiy veterans. Given that Antonio Smith is likely gone after this year, I would forecast our that our 11 defensive starters in 2014 would all be under 28 years old, with the possible exception of Dannieal Manning:

Watt
Mitchell
Crick/Jamison/2013 draft pick?
Mercilus
Cushing
B.Reed
Braman?/2013 draft pick?
Joseph
KJackson
Pleasant (2013 draft pick)
Keo (2013 draft pick) --I'm not seeing age as a problem.
 
@AdamSchefter: RT @Teddypinderass: What are the chances Ed Reed signs with the texans? ... First visits usually -- not always but usually -- mean deals.
 
dalemurphy said:
If we could do that without destroying the cap, I have no doubt we'd be a better team.

Look, we had too much youth last year. Consider that we have another 11 draft picks this year, I'm not concerned with getting too old. Of course, I don't really want 6 guys on defense that are all around 35, but I'll certainly take a couple of qualtiy veterans. Given that Antonio Smith is likely gone after this year, I would forecast our that our 11 defensive starters in 2014 would all be under 28 years old, with the possible exception of Dannieal Manning:

Watt
Mitchell
Crick/Jamison/2013 draft pick?
Mercilus
Cushing
B.Reed
Braman?/2013 draft pick?
Joseph
KJackson
Pleasant (2013 draft pick)
Keo (2013 draft pick) --I'm not seeing age as a problem.
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I wasn't being sarcastic. I think it would work. We have our core why not surround them with great veteran leadership? On top of that it would allow us to draft BPA by eliminating glaring needs.
 
Texn4life said:
Yeah, I can see how that's pretty messed up in hindsight but I guess its better than them saying we think we can do better and wish them well. Probably best to say nothing, but that's kind of a no win situation there.
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It's tough if you are asked a direct question about the players, though. Of course you want to say they are a priority. It also helps the player if they are negotiating with another team. Do you think Quin told Detroit that the Texans didn't even make an offer? That could lower his value to them.

Did it look like we ever had an official offer on the table? From what we've seen I'd say no. All they say is that they discussed money at the combine. Well, if his agent says he wants $5 million a year and that's more than the Texans want to pay I'm sure they just said call us back after you've looked around. We did the same with Myers. He found he wasn't going to get what he wanted and came back.

I think sometimes there is so much hatred towards Smith that he could draft the next Andrew Luck, sign another Andre (but 8 years younger) as a street free agent for 5 years $10 million and people will find flaws with how he did it.
 
TexanBacker93 said:
It's tough if you are asked a direct question about the players, though. Of course you want to say they are a priority. It also helps the player if they are negotiating with another team. Do you think Quin told Detroit that the Texans didn't even make an offer? That could lower his value to them.

Did it look like we ever had an official offer on the table? From what we've seen I'd say no. All they say is that they discussed money at the combine. Well, if his agent says he wants $5 million a year and that's more than the Texans want to pay I'm sure they just said call us back after you've looked around. We did the same with Myers. He found he wasn't going to get what he wanted and came back.

I think sometimes there is so much hatred towards Smith that he could draft the next Andrew Luck, sign another Andre (but 8 years younger) as a street free agent for 5 years $10 million and people will find flaws with how he did it.
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I think that Smith is a good GM but if you put it out there that the guy is a priority you should offer him some sort of contract, anything. Either do that or give a Belichick type answer, guy cracks me up. If I were a player I would personally take his word with a grain of salt. All these guys talk to each other and look at these FA situations closely. I bet that they are very surprised that an offer was not made and trust their boss less today than they did a couple of days ago.
 
Houston Texans @
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Wheels up! GM Rick Smith is on his
way to pick up free agent S Ed Reed in
#Texans chairman & CEO Bob
McNair's private jet
 
please please please sign Ed Reed.

Agree w/ all the posts about having a player who loves to play against the Pats...
 
This would be a great move for Texans. Reed is one of my favorite players. Even being long in the tooth the guy seems to make plays when needed and to step up at the right time. You can always use a hard nosed vet running the defensive backfield.
 
SW H-TOWN said:
I think that Smith is a good GM but if you put it out there that the guy is a priority you should offer him some sort of contract, anything. Either do that or give a Belichick type answer, guy cracks me up. If I were a player I would personally take his word with a grain of salt. All these guys talk to each other and look at these FA situations closely. I bet that they are very surprised that an offer was not made and trust their boss less today than they did a couple of days ago.
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You are taking the player's (more specifically his agent's) side of the story too much. if the agent told Smith that Quin wanted to go to market either way or the talks indicated that there was a pretty good gap bewteen what Quin was demanding why would Smith make a formal offer that Quin and his agent would spin as insulting well below market value and not sign?

BTW, I am for a player like Quin getting every nickle he can from the market. He did not get the silly signing bonus, and this is probably his only chance to get anywhere "never having to work post football" money.
 
I'll preface my remarks by saying I am an Ed Reed fan but that I have been disappointed with his play over the last 4-5 years. I say that because everything hasn't always been 'peaches n cream' here in Baltimore. I am not a 'disgruntled Baltimore fan'- I am pretty objective when it comes to my own team.

#1- Ed Reed hasn't been able to 'wrap up' or 'tackle' anyone since his neck impingement. Too many times over the last few years we have watched Ed go in for the big hit only to see the WR bounce off Ed and walk into the endzone.

#2-Too many times over the last few seasons, we have watched Ed "gamble" instead of staying within the scheme or defense called, that leaves a DB on an island/one on one, that results in a big play.

#3- Ed has been about himself over the last few years; will he retire, will he not? It has played out over the last few seasons and I for one, am tired of it.

#4- Ed has never been tight with John Harbaugh, the former DB coach turned HC, and when the Mike Silver article came out, both he and Pollard were id'ed as the ringleaders. Harbaugh doesn't like that; he carries a grudge, he doesn't like to be challenged.

Thats why Ed is on the plane to Houston right now.
 
Amazing that the ravens were able To win the superbowl with garbage Flacco, stupid jacoby, can't cover pollard, way over the hill ray Lewis, egocentric harbaugh, gimpy stupid Suggs and now the newest addition can't do anything Ed Reed.

Simply astonishing that a team with that many players holding them back (not to mention without their best corner) could manage to make the play offs let alone win on the road twice against the best QB's of this era in lieu to a superbowl win.
 
Ed reed is signing here.

The team posted that Rick smith is in mcnair's private jet right now picking up Ed reed. I personally think that it's pretty much already a done deal.
 
mussop said:
I wasn't being sarcastic. I think it would work. We have our core why not surround them with great veteran leadership? On top of that it would allow us to draft BPA by eliminating glaring needs.
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Agree 100%. In our big games we shrunk under pressure. We have no real calming veteran influence to get young guys to settle down and play ball. Would love to get a few guys who have won in big situations to come in here and team with our youth.
 
Rey said:
Ed reed is signing here.

The team posted that Rick smith is in mcnair's private jet right now picking up Ed reed. I personally think that it's pretty much already a done deal.
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Yeah i don't see how he will be leaving without a contract. Unless 49rs offer a ungodly amount for him....
 
Rey said:
Ed reed is signing here.

The team posted that Rick smith is in mcnair's private jet right now picking up Ed reed. I personally think that it's pretty much already a done deal.
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I agree, and I have a really strange feeling we'll try to re-structure and extend Smith, and still make a play for Woodson. With the way Woodson has been used they all would still be on the field a ton together. Just a hunch on that one.
 
handswarmer said:
#4- Ed has never been tight with John Harbaugh, the former DB coach turned HC, and when the Mike Silver article came out, both he and Pollard were id'ed as the ringleaders. Harbaugh doesn't like that; he carries a grudge, he doesn't like to be challenged.

Thats why Ed is on the plane to Houston right now.
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"I've got a rule: I never, ever, ever hold a grudge," Harbaugh said. "And I kind of have a rule that nobody else is allowed to hold a grudge, either. There are no grudges. We're a bunch of guys. We don't hold grudges. Right? We move on."
 
Rey said:
Ed reed is signing here.

The team posted that Rick smith is in mcnair's private jet right now picking up Ed reed. I personally think that it's pretty much already a done deal.
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Sounds pretty good to me. The Texans need to sign either him or Woodson, the thought of Keo back there just makes me wanna hurl.
 
Not agreeing with him at all..see my statements above..just posting for viewpoint

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein

As someone who has followed Houston sports my entire life, a signing of Ed Reed would feel a lot like the addition of Barkley by Rockets
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Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein

Rockets were trying to keep their window of opportunity open with Barkley but he added zero to their future hopes. Reed feels band-aidish
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Sean Pendergast ‏@SeanCablinasian

@LanceZierlein You mean it would feel awesome?? #LifelongBarkleyFanHere
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Rey said:
Amazing that the ravens were able To win the superbowl with garbage Flacco, stupid jacoby, can't cover pollard, way over the hill ray Lewis, egocentric harbaugh, gimpy stupid Suggs and now the newest addition can't do anything Ed Reed.

Simply astonishing that a team with that many players holding them back (not to mention without their best corner) could manage to make the play offs let alone win on the road twice against the best QB's of this era in lieu to a superbowl win.
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Yeah, they were 10-6 in regular season, a 4th and 29 in Sandiego away from collapsing, a 70 yd bomb lucky in Denver, and a non called DPI in the SB away from failure....
 
HoustonFrog said:
Not agreeing with him at all..see my statements above..just posting for viewpoint
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this is how i kinda feel...about it...to be honest. I know what he's done in the league, but i've also seen Schaub have his way with him the last couple of match ups too.
 
Playoffs said:
"I've got a rule: I never, ever, ever hold a grudge," Harbaugh said. "And I kind of have a rule that nobody else is allowed to hold a grudge, either. There are no grudges. We're a bunch of guys. We don't hold grudges. Right? We move on."
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Coachspeak- thats some serious bullshart right there.

Jared Gaither was his first example. Other guys left as soon as they could in FA. Ellerbe was in Harb's ''doghouse'' all last year, starts this year, gets big FA deal in Miami, McKinnie on the bench this year, Pollard release, etc...more examples...
 
handswarmer said:
Yeah, they were 10-6 in regular season, a 4th and 29 in Sandiego away from collapsing, a 70 yd bomb lucky in Denver, and a non called DPI in the SB away from failure....
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But those are the kinds of things that need to happen to win SB's these days..rare do teams dominate from start to finish these days...the last team i remember like that was probably one of those 90's cowboys teams.
 
Is it to late to release Keo and bring Nolan back ??? This FO and some of their choices makes me question their thought process.
 
Mr teX said:
this is how i kinda feel...about it...to be honest. I know what he's done in the league, but i've also seen Schaub have his way with him the last couple of match ups too.
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Can't complain because they won a SB but the Cowboys lit them..Ravens D.. up last year in a loss...481 yards, 221 on ground. Romo was 25 of 36 and 261 and 2 TDs. So...
 
Mr teX said:
But those are the kinds of things that need to happen to win SB's these days..rare do teams dominate from start to finish these days...the last team i remember like that was probably one of those 90's cowboys teams.
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Exactly- I was being sarcastic but for all the regular season domination by teams in the 2000's, rarely did that reg seas domination reslut in a SB win.

Just look at Denver this year
 
Please excuse my cynicism, but usually when there is a "high profile" player being wined and dined (even a 34 y/o), I always get the feeling that the Texans too often are being used as a red carpet............to another team......ala, leverage.
 
handswarmer said:
Yeah, they were 10-6 in regular season, a 4th and 29 in Sandiego away from collapsing, a 70 yd bomb lucky in Denver, and a non called DPI in the SB away from failure....
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I think he's being facetious. At least I hope he is.

Your criticisms of Reed remind me of when Mario Williams left for Buffalo, and Texans fans and opinion writers offered Buffalo fans some "buyer beware" warnings. Buffalo fans interpreted it as sour grapes. Houston analyst Lance Zierlein had a point-by-point article about Mario that reminds me a lot of your post. As fans of the team inheriting a player that you have followed closely for many years, I think it's best that we weigh those criticisms heavily when we set our expectations.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Please excuse my cynicism, but usually when there is a "high profile" player being wined and dined (even a 34 y/o), I always get the feeling that the Texans too often are being used as a red carpet............to another team......ala, leverage.
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I just don't see McNair on his dime flying Rick Smith on his personal jet unless they already offered a contract and Reed accepted it.
 
Brisco_County said:
I think he's being facetious. At least I hope he is.

Your criticisms of Reed remind me of when Mario Williams left for Buffalo, and Texans fans and opinion writers offered Buffalo fans some "buyer beware" warnings. Buffalo fans interpreted it as sour grapes. Houston analyst Lance Zierlein had a point-by-point article about Mario that reminds me a lot of your post. As fans of the team inheriting a player that you have followed closely for many years, I think it's best that we weigh those criticisms heavily when we set our expectations.
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Yes I was.

I absolutley love Ed Reed- but he is past his prime. I like Ray LEwis but got sick of hearing how great he was, etc., when I am watching TE's run away from him across the middle, OL destroy him 4-6yds into the second level, and him celebrating a tackle after a 7-8 yd gain.

Ed did the same when he didn't guess wrong- for a long time he was our offense 03-05, blocking kicks for TDs, strip sackss for TDs, INT returns fo TDs, punt returns for TDs, etc....

But he is a freelance artist who cannot wrap up anymore. How many time this year I saw him backpedaling, running backwards, trying to throw a guy down by his shoulder pads or hold him up til a LB caught up and tackled the guy.

Mario Williams came to mind also.

Good Luck
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Please excuse my cynicism, but usually when there is a "high profile" player being wined and dined (even a 34 y/o), I always get the feeling that the Texans too often are being used as a red carpet............to another team......ala, leverage.
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Kelli Johnson @kjohnsoncsn
Sources close 2 Ed Reed tell me, Reed is very serious about coming to Houston.. He wants to join the Texans! Leaving Baltimore not an issue
 
handswarmer said:
Yes I was.

I absolutley love Ed Reed- but he is past his prime. I like Ray LEwis but got sick of hearing how great he was, etc., when I am watching TE's run away from him across the middle, OL destroy him 4-6yds into the second level, and him celebrating a tackle after a 7-8 yd gain.

Ed did the same when he didn't guess wrong- for a long time he was our offense 03-05, blocking kicks for TDs, strip sackss for TDs, INT returns fo TDs, punt returns for TDs, etc....

But he is a freelance artist who cannot wrap up anymore. How many time this year I saw him backpedaling, running backwards, trying to throw a guy down by his shoulder pads or hold him up til a LB caught up and tackled the guy.

Mario Williams came to mind also.

Good Luck
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Here's the problem with that comparison. We're not committing $100 million to get Reed, and I'm pretty sure his replacement will be drafted this year. Buffalo thought they were getting an all world sack specialist who's a freak athleticly and gives his all on every play.

While we'll be excited to have the quality of Reed's resume on our team, we kind of understand what we're getting. A guy looking to close out his career with one last run or 2.
 
Ed Reed is one of my all-time favorite players, and probably one of the top two safeties to play this game in my lifetime (Ronnie Lott the other). But the guy is done. The guy is Ahman Green all over again. Still, I'd rather have Ed Reed than Shiloh Keo or Troy Nolan for depth and spot play. Use him sparingly and keep him healthy for the playoffs. The only way that works is if he's paid accordingly, and as I said in another thread, I actually do NOT trust the front office.
 
handswarmer said:
Coachspeak- thats some serious bullshart right there.

Jared Gaither was his first example. Other guys left as soon as they could in FA. Ellerbe was in Harb's ''doghouse'' all last year, starts this year, gets big FA deal in Miami, McKinnie on the bench this year, Pollard release, etc...more examples...
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Or, it could be...

Ozzie drafts well and poorer run teams overpay to harvest players from the Ravens, and

Jerad Gaither got paid and has started 9 games since leaving after '09 season .... and McKinnie is still a slimeball wannabe rap producing underperformer who Harbaugh showed remarkable patience with after he took the $500,000 bonus while showing up late & overweight .... and Reed is old & Pollard is one dimensional (see SB).
 
Titans Sux 72 said:
I just don't see McNair on his dime flying Rick Smith on his personal jet unless they already offered a contract and Reed accepted it.
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Wouldn't go that far, the Texans are pretty desperate to fill the Quinn void.

djohn2oo8 said:
Kelli Johnson @kjohnsoncsn
Sources close 2 Ed Reed tell me, Reed is very serious about coming to Houston.. He wants to join the Texans! Leaving Baltimore not an issue
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History has made me somewhat cynical..........but not to the point that I still don't continue to hope for good things to happen.
 
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