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Game over. What's your take?

badboy

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If Texans win or if they lose, how will it shape your view of their remaining season? Also how the team plays not just the score should be considered.

If a loss, regardless of the score, I will be very disappointed. If Denver just outplays us but we perform well, it will go down a bit easier but I will still be unhappy. If we lose and it is one fumble or missed field goal or an INT I'd be temporarily PO but could swallow the bile and say "just one play".

Win but sloppy not going to be pleased. I am expecting a very solid, well played victory. There can be mistakes but only those that do not impact game such as off sides by D or a PI by a corner that saves a TD. IMO, Denver is not in our league.

Anything else makes me rethink my belief we are building a dynasty and this could be our Super Bowl year. I want to see a professional team put on a clinic both defense and offense, with a very good game by special teams. It just better be Texans putting on the clinic.

Your thoughts?
 
ckhouston said:
I had this penciled in as a loss to begin the season because of Manning and the Bronco defense. However after watching the Falcons game I think we can take them. I had predicted 27-21 because I was homering and have a hard time publically picking against the Texans, but now feel it could easily be 35-14 if we go for the throat.
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If we don't go for the throat that is a dangerous signal imo.
 
When the schedule came out, I expected us to win this game. I expected Manning to struggle early as he recovered from his injuries and as he acclimated to his new team.

I did NOT expect him to come out like he did against the Steelers. That surprised the hell out of me. Against the Falcons, he looked a little bit more like I had expected him to look.

I expect us to win this game. I expect us to play great on both sides of the ball. I expect our defense to play his receivers fairly tight and for our linebackers to find ways to get to Manning. I expect him to be sacked 3-4 times and to be pressured a lot more than that.

I expect our offense to stretch the field early and then pound the rock late.

But this is going to be a hard game. We're playing a good team at home that's coming off a tough loss. And it's Satan, after all.

I'll be sad if we lose but I won't be devastated unless we're crushed.
 
If the sloppiness that has cropped up through the first two weeks costs them the game, I'll be less optimistic about their prospects overall. If they lose a well played game, then it won't affect my season outlook.

The Texans don't have enough quality wins the last couple seasons for me to buy into the Super Bowl hype just yet. A win in Denver, in the high altitude, would be a quality win. I think they can pull it off.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
When the schedule came out, I expected us to win this game. I expected Manning to struggle early as he recovered from his injuries and as he acclimated to his new team.

I did NOT expect him to come out like he did against the Steelers. That surprised the hell out of me. Against the Falcons, he looked a little bit more like I had expected him to look.

I expect us to win this game. I expect us to play great on both sides of the ball. I expect our defense to play his receivers fairly tight and for our linebackers to find ways to get to Manning. I expect him to be sacked 3-4 times and to be pressured a lot more than that.

I expect our offense to stretch the field early and then pound the rock late.

But this is going to be a hard game. We're playing a good team at home that's coming off a tough loss. And it's Satan, after all.

I'll be sad if we lose but I won't be devastated unless we're crushed.
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How would a win or a loss impact your vision of rest of season or would this game impact your vision at all?
 
badboy said:
So a sloppy loss would not bother you much at all? That is what I am interested in.
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He expects the Texans to go 0-16, so if some of the losses are "sloppy" he probably won't mind.

As for me, if the Texans win, then meh, they were supposed to win. If the Texans lose, then OMG the sky is falling!!!!
 
Fred said:
He expects the Texans to go 0-16, so if some of the losses are "sloppy" he probably won't mind.

As for me, if the Texans win, then meh, they were supposed to win. If the Texans lose, then OMG the sky is falling!!!!
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You must be thinking of someone else. Never predicted 0-16 for any team.
 
badboy said:
So a sloppy loss would not bother you much at all? That is what I am interested in.
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Most teams have a loss or two that they would rather forget every year. The Giants had a few last year and ended up winning the Super Bowl. So, no, a loss wouldn't bother me at all.
 
Fred said:
He expects the Texans to go 0-16, so if some of the losses are "sloppy" he probably won't mind.

As for me, if the Texans win, then meh, they were supposed to win. If the Texans lose, then OMG the sky is falling!!!!
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So a complete manhandling of Denver would not increase your expectations for remainder of season.
 
BullBlitz said:
You must be thinking of someone else. Never predicted 0-16 for any team.
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OK, so you didn't make a "full season" prediction. You predicted the Texans would lose to Jacksonville, the worst team on their schedule. So it is hypocritical and disingenious to pretend you think they can beat anyone else. So one week at a time, you are predicting the Texans to go 0-16. And if anyone predicts the Texans will ever win a game, even against the likes of the Dolphins or Jaguars, you dismiss them as a homer.

BTW, I was thinking of you, not someone else.
 
badboy said:
Win but sloppy not going to be pleased.
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This just doesn't make sense to me. A win is a win. In this league, especially on the road, they aren't easy to come by. You take them when you can get them. If the Texans were in the Super Bowl and played a sloppy game with a bunch of turnovers and penalties, and still found a way to squeak by with a win, they'd still be Super Bowl champs. The only stat that matters at the end of the day is the final score. I don't care how they get there, just have more than the other team.

I'll take 3-0 sloppy all day every day over 2-1 with a well played loss.
 
badboy said:
So a complete manhandling of Denver would not increase your expectations for remainder of season.
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Meh, my expectations for the rest of the season are high already.

Seriously, a win is a win is a win. Yeah, a manhandling is better than barely squeaking out a victory on a fluke play; but at some point the manhandling turns it into "hey, Denver sucks" as much as "the Texans are great" - thus self-discounting itself.
 
Fred said:
OK, so you didn't make a "full season" prediction. You predicted the Texans would lose to Jacksonville, the worst team on their schedule. So it is hypocritical and disingenious to pretend you think they can beat anyone else. So one week at a time, you are predicting the Texans to go 0-16. And if anyone predicts the Texans will ever win a game, even against the likes of the Dolphins or Jaguars, you dismiss them as a homer.

BTW, I was thinking of you, not someone else.
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First, you admit that you misrepresented me.

Then you state that I'm going predict that the Texans will lose every week for the remainder of the season. Wrong again.

The NFL is pretty balanced; enough so that many teams can return home from a road loss and get a rebound win at home. I thought that it might happen last week, but it didn't. Maybe it will happen this week.
 
I've been waiting for this game all offseason.. After all the years of tourment I want J.J. Watt and Brian Cushing to stomp a Texas sized mudhole in Satan Manning's ass! :) I want to see him on the ground early and often.
 
BullBlitz said:
First, you admit that you misrepresented me.

Then you state that I'm going predict that the Texans will lose every week for the remainder of the season. Wrong again.

The NFL is pretty balanced; enough so that many teams can return home from a road loss and get a rebound win at home. I thought that it might happen last week, but it didn't. Maybe it will happen this week.
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First, admit that you misrepresent yourself. You called anyone predicting a Texans win as a homer. After the Texans crushed the Jaguars you need to post a mea culpa, a "I was completely wrong" not a tepid "I thought that it might happen last week, but it didn't". You didn't "think it might happen". You were 100% c0ck sure. So stop posting in threads about this week if you refuse to man up about last week.
 
Speedy said:
This just doesn't make sense to me. A win is a win. In this league, especially on the road, they aren't easy to come by. You take them when you can get them. If the Texans were in the Super Bowl and played a sloppy game with a bunch of turnovers and penalties, and still found a way to squeak by with a win, they'd still be Super Bowl champs. The only stat that matters at the end of the day is the final score. I don't care how they get there, just have more than the other team.

I'll take 3-0 sloppy all day every day over 2-1 with a well played loss.
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I have had this conversation before but maybe not with you so I'll state my opinion here. A sloppy win counts in W column but I cannot stand them. No I will not advocate changing a sloppy win to a loss but I do not want to watch my team play crappy. Players hate them also. IF we win SB sloppy, it will have little value. Competition is about doing your best not "whew, they outplayed us but despite slop we win!" You & I evidently disagree as I will turn off the TV if we do slop & is why I no longer watch Astros. You want to brag about a win while other folks snicker at you? I just don't get that.
 
badboy said:
How would a win or a loss impact your vision of rest of season or would this game impact your vision at all?
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If it's just a regular loss or win (1-2 scores), then it's not going to have any impact on my view of the season at all. Very rare for a team to go undefeated and you've got to expect to drop a few here and there. Especially to a good team when you're on the road. And if we win, I won't be surprised by a hard-fought game that's not the cakewalks we've had so far.

If we get crushed (20+ points), then I'll be pretty heart-broken. I'll still expect us to win our division and make the play-offs. But I'm going to expect to host a wild-card game instead of having a bye. I'm going to hope we can find a way to fix whatever weakness the loss uncovered so that it doesn't happen again and I'm going to be hoping that it's not our run defense that lets us down.

If we crush the Broncos (20+ points), then I'm going to hope this is more of an indication of how bad-ass we are and not an indication of how crappy Denver is and it's not going to color my expectations for this season very much. With our division, I expect us to be the first or second seed this season.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
If it's just a regular loss or win (1-2 scores), then it's not going to have any impact on my view of the season at all. Very rare for a team to go undefeated and you've got to expect to drop a few here and there. Especially to a good team when you're on the road. And if we win, I won't be surprised by a hard-fought game that's not the cakewalks we've had so far.

If we get crushed (20+ points), then I'll be pretty heart-broken. I'll still expect us to win our division and make the play-offs. But I'm going to expect to host a wild-card game instead of having a bye. I'm going to hope we can find a way to fix whatever weakness the loss uncovered so that it doesn't happen again and I'm going to be hoping that it's not our run defense that lets us down.

If we crush the Broncos (20+ points), then I'm going to hope this is more of an indication of how bad-ass we are and not an indication of how crappy Denver is and it's not going to color my expectations for this season very much. With our division, I expect us to be the first or second seed this season.
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Good post! This is info I am looking for. Thanks for taking the time.
 
If we beat Denver, we should be 4-0 when we play the Jets, who will likely be 2-2 and coming off a beating at the hands of the 49ers.

Win that game, am I'm feeling good about our game stretch against the packers, Ravens and Bills, though I only expect us to drop one of those games.

After that, we'd be sitting at 7-1 or 6-2 with the only 3 somewhat difficult games (Bears, Lions, Pats) so even if we dropped 2 and then all 3 of those, we're at 11-5 and likely the top seed in the AFC.
 
I think we have to win this game to look like a Superbowl contender to everyone right now, including myself.

The one exception is if Peyton plays in every way like he did 2 or more years ago and we lose by 7 or less, since it is a road game, keeping in mind that we're not going to a Superbowl if we can't beat any AFC team, including the Broncos.

In reality, our record in December and how we are playing will tell us a lot more than one road game against anybody will right now.

What I want is to beat Peyton and the Broncos by 20 points just like they are just another Dolpins, Jaguars, etc. Just keep beating teams like they are just another....whoever they are... It's not time to try and be competitive anymore; it's time to IMPOSE OUR FREAKING WILL and just keep on going. Having said that, sometimes imposing your will means looong, time-consuming drives that include a lot of 3rd and 2's and running the ball a LOT. A game against Manning is a good time for that kind of romping. I don't mind seeing him flat on his back with the ball flying straight up into the air either... :d:
 
A loss, and I'll be disappointed, not just because I think Houston is better, but also because no more perfect season. I think Denver's D is soft, but quick and the Texan's O should be able to deal with them. Even with the Peyton I've learned to respect over the years, it would be a test for him against this D, that has given up a total of 10 points so far. Of the two, I'm not sold on Peyton yet.

However, in respect of the my outlook on the season, I think the Texan's real litmus on the season comes in weeks 5,6 and 7. A win or loss against the Bronco's will more shape my view of how Houston heads into those weeks, more so than the remainder of the season. After the bye, looking at the schedule, I question the Lions and maybe Patriots games. Outside of those two, I feel losing to any other team will be just the same as losing to the Bronco's.... Disappointing that they lost a game they should have won. What's probably most disappointing is knowing all the talking heads will be blabbering about Houston played 1 "quality" team and lost...

So far, Houston has beat the teams they should win against. I'm happy taking 20 point wins each week. Would love to see the trend continue!

Can you imagine the swagger and confidence of the Texans with... a beat down in Denver, then playing the Titans, who seems to always bring the nasty out of Houston... Just in time to roll into the Meadowlands with a 4-0 record? If we could witness the Texans "pants" the Jets, that would be soooo rewarding and then how do you like the Pack and Ravens??
 
If we go 3-0 and we beat Manning in his new house with that crowd I think the sky is the limit for us in the AFC. I don't think losing is as big of a deal unless we get blown out, which will suck but there will still be a week 4 vs the Titans at home. It'll be a good test against a really good QB that we really didn't get after the halfway mark through last season.
 
The next three games against the Broncos, Titans and Jets are must wins if we want to end up with the 1st seed in the AFC, first-round bye in the playoffs and homefield advantage throughout the playoffs. Every conference game is important to win due to possible tiebreakers. The Texans have a chance to go 5-0 going into the Packers game. Get 'er, done!
 
badboy said:
I have had this conversation before but maybe not with you so I'll state my opinion here. A sloppy win counts in W column but I cannot stand them. No I will not advocate changing a sloppy win to a loss but I do not want to watch my team play crappy. Players hate them also. IF we win SB sloppy, it will have little value. Competition is about doing your best not "whew, they outplayed us but despite slop we win!" You & I evidently disagree as I will turn off the TV if we do slop & is why I no longer watch Astros. You want to brag about a win while other folks snicker at you? I just don't get that.
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LOL! You're worried about people snickering at you? That's funny. You mean those people who snicker 'cause the Texans won the division without Peyton Manning playing? Those people who snicker at the Rockets 2 championships that they say MJ didn't play? F those people! I don't give a flying pink rat's ass what anyone has to say if my team wins. People are ignorant, if you haven't noticed.
 
badboy said:
I have had this conversation before but maybe not with you so I'll state my opinion here. A sloppy win counts in W column but I cannot stand them. No I will not advocate changing a sloppy win to a loss but I do not want to watch my team play crappy. Players hate them also. IF we win SB sloppy, it will have little value. Competition is about doing your best not "whew, they outplayed us but despite slop we win!" You & I evidently disagree as I will turn off the TV if we do slop & is why I no longer watch Astros. You want to brag about a win while other folks snicker at you? I just don't get that.
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I'm on record predicting a Texans loss -- and a decisive one. That prediction was made prior to the Broncos/Falcons game and the revelation that Manning's arm isn't nearly what it once was. It's now evident that the Texans, on paper, are simply the better team.

However, the Texans have lost a number of games against teams they should have beaten over the past few years. That's why this game is so meaningful. If the Texans beat the Broncos in Denver it will be a sign that the Texans have become a team that expects to win and then does win. That's what champions do.
 
Speedy said:
LOL! You're worried about people snickering at you? That's funny. You mean those people who snicker 'cause the Texans won the division without Peyton Manning playing? Those people who snicker at the Rockets 2 championships that they say MJ didn't play? F those people! I don't give a flying pink rat's ass what anyone has to say if my team wins. People are ignorant, if you haven't noticed.
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Don't agree as we had major players including our QB out several games. Manning was best player on his team but so was Andre Johnson. You play with the guys you have. You & I are different type people. I want good play you want a win regardless of how it comes.
 
My predictiion was that expectations would be way too high, and indeed it's panning out.

If we beat Denver, people will think we have the Super Bowl locked up. If we lose to Denver, the sky will fall and everyone will be knocking themselves over to resurrect all those "Fire Kubiak" threads.

Thats how this place rolls.
 
badboy said:
Don't agree as we had major players including our QB out several games. Manning was best player on his team but so was Andre Johnson. You play with the guys you have. You & I are different type people. I want good play you want a win regardless of how it comes.
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Whatever. The win is what counts in the end. So to each his own, I guess.
 
badboy said:
Don't agree as we had major players including our QB out several games. Manning was best player on his team but so was Andre Johnson. You play with the guys you have. You & I are different type people. I want good play you want a win regardless of how it comes.
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I don't believe there's anyone on this board that doesn't want to see the Texans always at their best and blow the doors off the Broncos or whoever. Not a single person.

But I realize that humans aren't always "at their best". So, IMHO, it's a very strong sign that we're a good team when we can find a way to scratch out a win even when we AREN'T at our best.

There are no style points in the W/L column. Things of beauty and butt-ugly, crappy games both count as one win.

Let me ask you this, if our win ain't a thing of beauty, do you want them to give it back?
 
Winning is always the most important thing.

Winning and looking bad-ass while doing it is, of course, the goal.

Winning ugly is, at least, a win but it's also a danger signal telling us things we need to fix before someone else finds a way to capitalize on them.

Getting blown out of a game is demoralizing. And no one wants that.

Losing a close one is even more heart-breaking but at least it gives you hope that if you just fix this or that and maybe get a different bounce of the ball, you've got hope for the future.

Of course, this is just talking about me and how I approach and feel about these things.
 
Winning ugly almost always trumps losing pretty. And the only reason "almost" is in there is because if a key play gets injured and it hurts the team down the road, it was a Pyrrhic victory.
 
No "worries" if we lose unless they give us something to worry about.

I mean, Denver is a good team. Good teams lose to other good teams. It happens.

Not looking forward to the inevitable freakout if we do end up losing tomorrow.

I don't care about looking like a Super Bowl contender right now. It's Week. ****ing. Three.
 
Dont think we can win this one sloppily, but I'm sure we will win it.
Either way, a lot of folks will blow it out of proportion. The only way I'd be bummed is if they play hard and relatively mistake free and still lose, but I dont think thats possible against anyone with this year's Texans.
 
badboy said:
If Texans win or if they lose, how will it shape your view of their remaining season?

Your thoughts?
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I'm too busy thinking about what I'll be thinking after the week 6 game versus the Pack. I'm already 4 games ahead. Right now, I'm thinking about what I'll wear on May 18th, 2017. Maybe a light beige dri-fit polo with khakis?
 
Lucky said:
I'm too busy thinking about what I'll be thinking after the week 6 game versus the Pack. I'm already 4 games ahead. Right now, I'm thinking about what I'll wear on May 18th, 2017. Maybe a light beige dri-fit polo with khakis?
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Take an umbrella, l think it's supposed to rain!
 
Lucky said:
I'm too busy thinking about what I'll be thinking after the week 6 game versus the Pack. I'm already 4 games ahead. Right now, I'm thinking about what I'll wear on May 18th, 2017. Maybe a light beige dri-fit polo with khakis?
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Sounds like you're playing golf that day....
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Marcus said:
My predictiion was that expectations would be way too high, and indeed it's panning out.

If we beat Denver, people will think we have the Super Bowl locked up. If we lose to Denver, the sky will fall and everyone will be knocking themselves over to resurrect all those "Fire Kubiak" threads.

Thats how this place rolls.
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Man, you hit the nail on the head! :dangit: Sorry, no "nail on the head" smilie!
 
I think the outcome of this game is not be all end all. This team has enough talent on both sides of the ball that we should beat every team regardless of where the game is played. A win or loss here and there are going to happen. If we lose because we don't show up, then we have problems.
 
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