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WR Roy Williams to get a tryout with Texans (UPDATE) signed Bryant Johnson

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein
Real Talk on Roy Williams. He's a big-bodied veteran who has a great chance of getting into camp with the Texans
 
Interesting. I wonder how much speed he's lost over the years? He had one really good year for Detroit.
 
I hope his hands arrive at camp with the rest of his body because they've been missing for years.
 
Interesting. I've been a proponent of adding another vet wide receiver. No harm in giving him a shot.
 
He still has a good yds per catch stat.........15.7, 14.3 and 13.7 respectively over the past 3 years..................BUT...............

Roy Williams' long history of drops

August, 24, 2011
Case of 'The Dropsies'

Despite ranking third in targets among Cowboys pass-catchers over the past three seasons, Roy Williams struggled to produce in Dallas due to an inability to come down with the ball when targeted. Williams has dropped a higher percentage of passes than all other players with at least 200 targets since 2008 and has the third-lowest catch percentage over the same span.


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Past 3 Seasons

Player % Drops

Roy Williams 8.2 (19 drops/231 targets)
Dwayne Bowe 8.1
Ted Ginn, Jr. 7.5
Dustin Keller 7.4
Bryant Johnson 7.2
>>min. 200 targets
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Unreliable Targets: Lowest Catch Percentage

Past 3 Seasons

Player Pct.

Braylon Edwards 46.6
Bryant Johnson 47.3
Roy Williams 48.1 (111 rec/231 targets)
Nate Washington 49.6
Terrell Owens 51.0
>>min. 200 targets

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He was allergic to blocking and finishing routes in college, and has demonstrated alligator arms in the league. I would venture it is a favor or veteran body, rather than a season long investment.
 
Is he the one on Storage Wars: Texas? If so, he should probably stick to football related activities as he isn't very good at buying storage units.
 
badboy said:
maybe 76 can give us a break down if his drops were all on him or Qb or?

http://sportsblogdylcon5.tumblr.com/
At wide receiver, the bears sign Roy Williams, who admits he is not in playing shape.


Maybe getting in shape should be his first priority?
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That was a year ago. He now says he's in great shape.

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July 25, 2012
Terrell Owens is not getting interest but former Cowboys WR Roy Williams has a tryout with Texans

Williams, a former Longhorn star and Odessa, is excited about a second opportunity to return to his home state and play pro football. He says he is healthy and in great shape after working out summer in Dallas and plans to make the most of his tryout with the Texas.
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http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...as-a-tryout-with-the-texan.html#storylink=cpy
 
How could anyone be happy about Roy Williams potentially making his way onto this team. That dude has been a disaster on 3 different teams and has displayed a poor work ethic and an ego to go with it. So what if he has a big body. That doesn't mean zilch when you suck. I'd take TO's old ass over Roy any day of the week, and I hate TO.
 
He's probably just a camp body, and motivation to the other guys to start working their asses off because you can be replaced. At least we've got nothing to lose by giving him a shot in training camp. Maybe he's finally found some motivation to play the game hard.
 
Texecutioner said:
How could anyone be happy about Roy Williams potentially making his way onto this team. That dude has been a disaster on 3 different teams and has displayed a poor work ethic and an ego to go with it. So what if he has a big body. That doesn't mean zilch when you suck. I'd take TO's old ass over Roy any day of the week, and I hate TO.
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I'm with you on this one Tex. If I was going to take a guy with question marks why would you pick Roy over Plaxico or Braylon Edwards. I get that it's just a tryout, but this one doesn't make much sense to me. Mike Sims-Walker must have really been terrible if they passed over him to bring Roy in for a tryout.
 
Motivational move by Kubiak to scare the draftees into working harder..."or else..."

Have never thought he was as good as people made him out to be. He's a mouth who can't back it up on the field.

This is what happens when Dwigit Jones went AWOL on us: Kubiak fills his spot with Roy Williams. It's like Kubiak just HAS to have a WR project to dabble with. LOL.
 
If it's between Roy Williams and Bryant Johnson as the Chron says, I'd no doubt, 1000% make no mistake sure as ______ go with Johnson. He knows the offense from a year ago and can be even better with a whole Texans training camp this time around. Williams is done. Better to take a flyer on Bryant Johnson.
 
The Texans do not need to be wasting time looking at Roy Williams.

The guy is entirely too inconsistent.

Pass!
 
Texecutioner said:
How could anyone be happy about Roy Williams potentially making his way onto this team. That dude has been a disaster on 3 different teams and has displayed a poor work ethic and an ego to go with it. So what if he has a big body. That doesn't mean zilch when you suck. I'd take TO's old ass over Roy any day of the week, and I hate TO.
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It seems that his consistent history of being lazy and unmotivated hasn’t stopped at least some team at one time or another from giving him a serious look. You have to wonder if you take him, are you just buying into an older version of Jacoby Jones.........that is, reaching for a bottle of Tums anytime a crucial pass comes his way.
 
Texecutioner said:
How could anyone be happy about Roy Williams potentially making his way onto this team. That dude has been a disaster on 3 different teams and has displayed a poor work ethic and an ego to go with it. So what if he has a big body. That doesn't mean zilch when you suck. I'd take TO's old ass over Roy any day of the week, and I hate TO.
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I typically NEVER agree with Texecutioner but in this case I do...except the part about TO.

I think they are damn near one in the same. Big bodied. Board hands. Have not been able to capatalize on the last few teams they've been on.

No thanks, move on down the road broseph...
 
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Someone, please forward this to Rick Smith.
 
I think this is an EXCELLENT idea.

Wait.

Hear me out.

We bring Roy Williams in. Then during training camp, we put Roy Williams and AJ side by side. We have them run the same routes and get thrown basically the same ball. AJ will run the right route, perfectly, and catch the ball. Roy Williams will run a lazy route and drop the ball.

So then we show all our rooks and 1st year WRs this contrast to make the point that one of these is the right way to go and the other is the NOT right way to go.

Then we cut Roy Williams.

Lesson learned.
 
I dont think Roy will make it. If they keep on another vet, I would think Bryant since he played with us last year.
 
How much did Posey struggle? Is this due diligence or panic mode? Honestly, it can't hurt to take a look at Roy. He has a NFL body. If you don't throw a lot of money at him and he is in shape, it may not be a bad thing at all. He's been a disaster as Tex put it because he hasn't lived up to the big contract or the draft status. He won't have to worry about that here.

Third-round draft pick DeVier Posey and fourth-round pick Keshawn Martin have potential but are unproven and Posey struggled in minicamp.
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Read more here: http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...th-the-texan.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy
 
Being a Cowboy fan and seeing him and then moving here to Chicago and seeing him...not a great plan, even if its a backup plan. Roy is a guy who comes in, has great quotes, looks great in practice and is seemingly well liked and then the games begin and you ask..."where is Roy Williams." That guy got so much air time up here and never materialized in the season.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Being a Cowboy fan and seeing him and then moving here to Chicago and seeing him...not a great plan, even if its a backup plan. Roy is a guy who comes in, has great quotes, looks great in practice and is seemingly well liked and then the games begin and you ask..."where is Roy Williams." That guy got so much air time up here and never materialized in the season.
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he fits in with the old Rick Smith mantra of being able to look good in shorts.
 
Right now, I'd easily choose Bryant Johnson over Williams.

Bryant Johnson = Better hands, knows our system and a much better pro

Roy Williams = Non of the above

That said, I'd assume there'd be more to pick from once cuts begin if we truly need a WR.
 
I'll be in the minority here and say I think the competition is closer than most might think. Bryant has been here and knows the team and system, Roy has done more and has had the better career.

He hasn't lived up to his draft status, but he's been the better player.
 
Roy Williams will also take away some the defense's attention from AJ. He may drop the ball, but he's likely still athletic enough that they have to make sure he doesn't break free on the chance he actually makes the catch.
 
Rey said:
I'll be in the minority here and say I think the competition is closer than most might think. Bryant has been here and knows the team and system, Roy has done more and has had the better career.
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I don't think there is any competition between the two, as Bryant Johnson isn't on the roster.
 
IF he's actually being fairly evaluated in camp and has to truly earn a spot on the roster, then I have no problem with them bringing him in. So the question is: Do you have faith that Kubiak is going to fairly evaluate the guy, or do you think he's going to favor him somehow?
 
eriadoc said:
IF he's actually being fairly evaluated in camp and has to truly earn a spot on the roster, then I have no problem with them bringing him in. So the question is: Do you have faith that Kubiak is going to fairly evaluate the guy, or do you think he's going to favor him somehow?
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I have no reason to think that Kubiak has any reason to favor roy Williams. He is not getting bunches of money and his flaws are well documented. The rookies need some prove they are better than some dude who has done something in the NFL and Williams fits that bill.

Overall, people are not going "like' whatever veterean spare the Texans eventually bring in. Everyone out there has major warts or they would not be jobless heading into camp.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
I think this is an EXCELLENT idea.

Wait.

Hear me out.

We bring Roy Williams in. Then during training camp, we put Roy Williams and AJ side by side. We have them run the same routes and get thrown basically the same ball. AJ will run the right route, perfectly, and catch the ball. Roy Williams will run a lazy route and drop the ball.

So then we show all our rooks and 1st year WRs this contrast to make the point that one of these is the right way to go and the other is the NOT right way to go.

Then we cut Roy Williams.

Lesson learned.
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I wanted to rep you for this post...sounds like a pretty brilliant idea.
 
Lucky said:
I don't think there is any competition between the two, as Bryant Johnson isn't on the roster.
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Well, I've heard on the radio that both will be given tryouts to compete for who is signed.

I'm fully aware that neither player is on the roster.
 
HOU-TEX said:
Right now, I'd easily choose Bryant Johnson over Williams.

Bryant Johnson = Better hands, knows our system and a much better pro

Roy Williams = Non of the above

That said, I'd assume there'd be more to pick from once cuts begin if we truly need a WR.
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Bryant Johnson couldn't beat KDub for a spot on game day. Why go through that experience again?

We need a WR who is a better #2 option than KDub.

Let's let the FO look at the guy, let the coaches work him out. If he's got the tools, then it's up to them to get the most out of him on game day... if they sign him.

If they don't sign him, no big deal. But the object right now should be to get someone who can supplant Kevin Walter at the #2 spot. KDub isn't so bad that we have to "take what we can get" but it shouldn't stop us from kicking the tires on Roy Williams either.
 
I don't really understand why some people are opposed to at least bringing him in to see what he can bring to the table.

It's not likely he's going to be vying for a top 3 spot unless he just really goes balls to the wall in TC and pre-season. Martin and Posey are vritually guaranteed spots on the roster and I think with Jean healthy he should make a spot too. I think it's really unlikely that they carry 5 WRs this year unless someone just makes it impossible not to add that sixth spot for them.

I'd rather pass on Johnson, he just didn't seem able to capitalize on a chance to really make a splash on game day or on his chances of staying on the roster.
 
BCRich said:
Bryant Johnson couldn't beat KDub for a spot on game day. Why go through that experience again?

We need a WR who is a better #2 option than KDub.

Let's let the FO look at the guy, let the coaches work him out. If he's got the tools, then it's up to them to get the most out of him on game day... if they sign him.

If they don't sign him, no big deal. But the object right now should be to get someone who can supplant Kevin Walter at the #2 spot. KDub isn't so bad that we have to "take what we can get" but it shouldn't stop us from kicking the tires on Roy Williams either.
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Neither were brought in to replace KW. They're coming in for depth and to compete for a roster spot. "If he's got the tools"? Dude's been in the league for 8 years now. If he hasn't shown that he has the tools yet, he ain't going to. It doesn't take a FO to determine which of the two would fit best. Plus, this is a friggin message board, where people make observations and state opinions.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
I have no reason to think that Kubiak has any reason to favor roy Williams. He is not getting bunches of money and his flaws are well documented. The rookies need some prove they are better than some dude who has done something in the NFL and Williams fits that bill.
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Exactly! So unless you think Kubiak is somehow going to tilt the tables in favor of Roy Williams, you should have no reason to dislike the Texans giving him a shot. If he shows that he's matured and can still play, and he somehow makes the team, then the Texans are a better team. If he shows that he's the same old Roy Williams, then he won't make the team and no harm, no foul.

The one exception I'd take is if they give him a million bucks just to show up to camp, a la Roosevelt Colvin some years back. That still annoys me.
 
With as many rookies as the Texans have, i'm not opposed to bringing any vet in no matter who...competition is never bad... A fear that your job isn't secure is for sure motivational, in any line of work...
 
He has the size and the speed. I know he never really panned out BUT neither did jason babin until recently, now he is tearing it up. Give him a shot and u could be surprised, if it don't work out atleast u won't be dissapointed ;)
 
Roy is one of those athletes who was blessed with off-the-charts natural ability and cursed with zero passion for the game.

It's conceivable he is just now realizing that his gift has an expiration date and he needs to enjoy what he's got while he's got it.

My guess is that it's extremely likely he will crap out again, but if he seems eager to play for a modest sum of money he needs to be given a shot.
 
I dont have a problem with them bringing in a vetern to look at and see what he has to offer.
Maybe he has something to offer....maybe not....
He did play under Wade Phillips at Dallas.
Maybe his attiude has changed since being cut....we will see......
 
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