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He's been on NFLN all day, discussing the "perfect" spot for Tim Tebow...


Don't these guys know Vince is looking for a job?
 
I'm pretty surprised no-one has picked him up, plenty of QB needy teams around the league and Vince has a good record in win/loss terms.

He must not have a very good reference from the iggles, cos you'd assume that if he'd matured any they'd have been more than willing to let other teams know about it and help him out.

Is his career over?
 
welsh texan said:
I'm pretty surprised no-one has picked him up, plenty of QB needy teams around the league and Vince has a good record in win/loss terms.

He must not have a very good reference from the iggles, cos you'd assume that if he'd matured any they'd have been more than willing to let other teams know about it and help him out.

Is his career over?
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I'm no Young fan, but he is by far a better QB than Tebow.
 
chicagotexan2 said:
I'm no Young fan, but he is by far a better QB than Tebow.
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Remove "by far" and I'd agree with the statement.

But Tebow is a better player. He doesn't seem to give up, and he tries to inspires others to not give up. Well, except in their playoff loss.

I'm not sure V Young has the mental toughness for the game. It seems like he lets losing get to him, and cause him to throw in the towel.
 
People are going to want to shoot me for this but....here it goes:

Why don't we try to get him? We saw last year how important it is to have 3 QBs on the team. Now I doubt this happens to us twice in two seasons but every one on here has talked about Schaub's Lis Franc (sp) injury when it came to Manning and I know Vince is not Manning but don't we still have to think good backups at this point still?

I for one have always thought that Vince would thrive in this offense because of his ability to tuck and run and pick up first downs to keep the team on the field (something Schaub almost refuses to do). We also saw him show some flashes under Philly's WCO. Plus, Kubiak has done a pretty good job with QBs during his tenure.

Now I know many will say that Vince is not a team player and will be a locker room cancer. However, my argument has always been that we've drafted and acquired enough choir boys to know that the attitude of this team will take over Vince's attitude. Plus you gotta believe he's learned his lesson at this point of his career and has been humbled somewhat since then.

My only question is why Vince hasn't been asked to stay in Philly with a banged up Michael Vick. But I believe it could be time to ask Vince to come in and compete for the back up spot.
 
chicagotexan2 said:
I'm no Young fan, but he is by far a better QB than Tebow.
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Not according to the VY jockriders. They always say QB ratings, stats, etc don't count. It's what he does on the field that counts. All he does is win. Well Tebow "wins" more.

As of today Tebow led his team to a playoff victory. VY is winless in that the most important category.
 
majestrate said:
Remove "by far" and I'd agree with the statement.

But Tebow is a better player. He doesn't seem to give up, and he tries to inspires others to not give up. Well, except in their playoff loss.

I'm not sure V Young has the mental toughness for the game. It seems like he lets losing get to him, and cause him to throw in the towel.
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Ok maybe not by far. But that's mostly because VY is not a very good qb, but Tebow is even worse than that. I think Tebow benefited much more from the play of his team the Young did.
 
El Tejano said:
People are going to want to shoot me for this but....here it goes:

Why don't we try to get him? We saw last year how important it is to have 3 QBs on the team. Now I doubt this happens to us twice in two seasons but every one on here has talked about Schaub's Lis Franc (sp) injury when it came to Manning and I know Vince is not Manning but don't we still have to think good backups at this point still?

I for one have always thought that Vince would thrive in this offense because of his ability to tuck and run and pick up first downs to keep the team on the field (something Schaub almost refuses to do). We also saw him show some flashes under Philly's WCO. Plus, Kubiak has done a pretty good job with QBs during his tenure.

Now I know many will say that Vince is not a team player and will be a locker room cancer. However, my argument has always been that we've drafted and acquired enough choir boys to know that the attitude of this team will take over Vince's attitude. Plus you gotta believe he's learned his lesson at this point of his career and has been humbled somewhat since then.

My only question is why Vince hasn't been asked to stay in Philly with a banged up Michael Vick. But I believe it could be time to ask Vince to come in and compete for the back up spot.
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Same reason I don't want Tebow on this team, their rabidly loyal followers are an obnoxious distraction from the game. I don't want VY fanboys chanting his name during our home games after Schaub throws an INT. His risk/reward factor is a negative at this point, and he would be more of a detriment to the Texans and Cowboys (Texas teams) than anything else. No thanks, I'll take Yates over him any day of the week. However, I would love to see him on the Cowboys and watch Romo deal with the VY shenanigans.
 
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El Tejano said:
People are going to want to shoot me for this but....here it goes:

Why don't we try to get him? We saw last year how important it is to have 3 QBs on the team. Now I doubt this happens to us twice in two seasons but every one on here has talked about Schaub's Lis Franc (sp) injury when it came to Manning and I know Vince is not Manning but don't we still have to think good backups at this point still?

I for one have always thought that Vince would thrive in this offense because of his ability to tuck and run and pick up first downs to keep the team on the field (something Schaub almost refuses to do). We also saw him show some flashes under Philly's WCO. Plus, Kubiak has done a pretty good job with QBs during his tenure.

Now I know many will say that Vince is not a team player and will be a locker room cancer. However, my argument has always been that we've drafted and acquired enough choir boys to know that the attitude of this team will take over Vince's attitude. Plus you gotta believe he's learned his lesson at this point of his career and has been humbled somewhat since then. My only question is why Vince hasn't been asked to stay in Philly with a banged up Michael Vick. But I believe it could be time to ask Vince to come in and compete for the back up spot.
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I don't think that even an offense that is tailor made for Young would do any good with him. I don't doubt his athletic ability. He is just plain soft and too immature to overcome any adversity on the field. If he could grow a pair and grow up he could salvage his career.

As for Tebow he's just a lousy QB. Converting from a QB to a FB, H-back or Tight End must be easier than converting from Christianity to Islam, Buddhism, Festivusism, etc...
 
Thanks Chicagotxn2 and Dutchrudder. I see your points and I thought about both of those. Trust me I could just see Schaub throw an INT and everyone start screaming for VY but I don't think it would be tough to establish Yates as the back up and treat VY like we did Matt Lienart. I'm just saying that VY wants to be on The Texans. How badly does he? That he would even be 3rd QB? Don't know but I do want players that want to be on our team. Just saying.
 
El Tejano said:
Thanks Chicagotxn2 and Dutchrudder. I see your points and I thought about both of those. Trust me I could just see Schaub throw an INT and everyone start screaming for VY but I don't think it would be tough to establish Yates as the back up and treat VY like we did Matt Lienart. I'm just saying that VY wants to be on The Texans. How badly does he? That he would even be 3rd QB? Don't know but I do want players that want to be on our team. Just saying.
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Yeah man I want the same thing but I've seen enough vys antics to know he doesnt have the mental fortitude. As a Houstonian I want him to succeed but I don't see it happening.
 
If VY had the "right stuff" between the ears, his physical skills would certainly be wanted by many teams. The fact that his he's apparently got his head in the wrong place is directly related to the fact that he appears to be ignored by 32 teams right now.

I wish no ill will toward the guy. I'm way over all that crap from way back when.
 
El Tejano said:
Thanks Chicagotxn2 and Dutchrudder. I see your points and I thought about both of those. Trust me I could just see Schaub throw an INT and everyone start screaming for VY but I don't think it would be tough to establish Yates as the back up and treat VY like we did Matt Lienart. I'm just saying that VY wants to be on The Texans. How badly does he? That he would even be 3rd QB? Don't know but I do want players that want to be on our team. Just saying.
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I don't really understand how that would work, since Lienart was the backup, until Schaub went down and then he got the starting job.
 
majestrate said:
I don't really understand how that would work, since Lienart was the backup, until Schaub went down and then he got the starting job.
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Well I guess I feel like we should be looking for a 3rd QB and I don't want to rely on a rookie if it comes down to that again. I feel like Yates has earned the right to come in as the 2nd but we should bring in a vet QB to compete for that slot too because I don't feel right about Schaub's injury still and it wouldn't be too far fetched to think it could happen again.
 
If they believe in TJ then he has to be #2 outright next season, from what I've read, the #2 QB takes a heck of a lot more practice snaps than the #3, and also gets more exposure to practicing with the #1's.

If we want TJ to progress, then we'll need a rookie/very low level FA @ #3, and if Schaub does go down we'll be scanning the street FA's for a backup to come in like last season.

If they don't believe in TJ long term, then yeah, bring in one of these guys who's started a bit and will compete for #2 status. But I think if they do make that move then I doubt we'll see any more of TJ Yates in the future. And not just because of the whole development side, but because it'll be a clear statement of how they view him. jmo.
 
From NFL.com


Q&A: Vince Young remains upbeat about NFL future By Dan Hanzus NFL.com Writer
Published: March 21, 2012 at 08:07 p.m. Updated: March 22, 2012 at 08:41 p.m.

What's next for Vince Young?

It's an intriguing question. The enigmatic former Tennessee Titans and Philadelphia Eagles quarterback is an unrestricted free agent who's looking for work in a market that's starting to dry up.


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Young, 29, was a guest Wednesday at NFL Network studios, giving us a chance to find out where he stands during an uncertain time.

ATL: Did you learn anything from the "Dream Team" comment and subsequent fallout?

VY: Not really. Everything I say is going to get blown out of proportion anyway. One thing that my publicist (Denise White, seated to his left) knows and everybody knows about me, I'm not going to hold back anything, especially when it's something that's not really bad anyway.

ATL: You said everything you say gets blown out of proportion. Why do you think that is?

VY: I'm used to it since I was in high school, since I was in college, so I look at it as motivation to make them eat their words. I just feel like it's because I'm a winner and I've been put on the biggest stages from the national championship to the Sunday night game I had against the Giants, everyone expected me to lose those games. The whole week, "He's not going to do this, he's going to do that," and then I go out and have a good game and win the ballgame and a lot of people to me don't like that, because it makes them look bad.

ATL: Tell me your feelings about the imposter situation. What was the deal with that?

VY: I was shocked, because I'm very huge in the community, talking to kids for my foundation, going out to different Boys & Girls clubs. When I heard, I was very hurt about it because anything that tries to hurt my image, I don't like it. I built my image to where it is, and a lot of people love me for who I am.

ATL: If you have the choice, where would you like to play next season?

VY: I'm just letting my agent (Tom Condon) take care of that, but if I had a dream team to go play at, I'd love to go play at home. (Young -- a Houston native -- is referring to the Texans.) That was one of the biggest reasons I came out (in 2006), because they were the No. 1 pick that year, and that would be the chance to play at home and that would be beautiful. I've told my agent, and that's what he knows, and he's working. I know he's working.

(Yes, folks, that was another dream team reference. Let's just leave this one alone, shall we?)
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Short conversation of Tom Condon working:

Tom Condon: Hey VY would like to play in Houston.
Rick Smith: No.
Tom Condon: No he really wants to come to Houston.
Rick Smith: No.
Tom Condon: He'd be motivated this time, he promises.
Rick Smith: Which part of "no" don't you understand?
Tom Condon: The "no" part.
Rick Smith: Now I understand why VY picked you as his agent.
 
infantrycak said:
Short conversation of Tom Condon working:

Tom Condon: Hey VY would like to play in Houston.
Rick Smith: No.
Tom Condon: No he really wants to come to Houston.
Rick Smith: No.
Tom Condon: He'd be motivated this time, he promises.
Rick Smith: Which part of "no" don't you understand?
Tom Condon: The "no" part.
Rick Smith: Now I understand why VY picked you as his agent.
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Is he still using that guy that wasn't even really a sports agent?? Wasn't his agent that he had coming into the league some lawyer that was supposedly a family friend or whatever?
 
Texecutioner said:
Is he still using that guy that wasn't even really a sports agent?? Wasn't his agent that he had coming into the league some lawyer that was supposedly a family friend or whatever?
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Nah, I think he fired his uncle or whatever a few years back and the article specifically mentioned Condon.
 
VY: Not really. Everything I say is going to get blown out of proportion anyway. One thing that my publicist (Denise White, seated to his left) knows and everybody knows about me, I'm not going to hold back anything, especially when it's something that's not really bad anyway.
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Can someone explain to me why a guy scrambling for a 3rd string job in the NFL has a publicist?
 
lol, Vince Young. Garbage. Hopefully he gets tossed on the ash-heap of overrated, over-exposed, cancerous, unintelligent wastes who just couldn't cut it in the league.

Sooner rather than later.
 
Lucky said:
Can someone explain to me why a guy scrambling for a 3rd string job in the NFL has a publicist?
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I'd like to know what he's paying her for.

VY: One thing that my publicist (Denise White, seated to his left) knows and everybody knows about me, I'm not going to hold back anything, especially when it's something that's not really bad anyway.
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He obviously does not understand the problem with the statement. I would think if I had a publicist (s)he would be able to explain it to me even if (s)he had to use pictures.

VY: I was shocked, because I'm very huge in the community, talking to kids for my foundation, going out to different Boys & Girls clubs.
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This guy went to college for three years & he says, "I'm very huge in the community..." really? What exactly is that supposed to mean?

When I heard, I was very hurt about it because anything that tries to hurt my image, I don't like it.
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Surely his publicist didn't help him construct this circle jerk.

I built my image to where it is, and a lot of people love me for who I am.
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I truly believe the rumors about his Wonderlic.
 
This guy simply cannot learn his lesson can he? That interview just reads horribly, and I doubt it was much better to watch/listen to.

If he had shown some maturity since completely ****ing up his chance in Tennessee, maybe I'd be interested in him as a backup, but even Matty L knew to say the right things at that stage of his career, and from everything I read through last season, he showed great maturity.

Why doesn't anybody tell VY to get a grip?
 
thunderkyss said:
I'd like to know what he's paying her for.

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He obviously does not understand the problem with the statement. I would think if I had a publicist (s)he would be able to explain it to me even if (s)he had to use pictures.

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This guy went to college for three years & he says, "I'm very huge in the community..." really? What exactly is that supposed to mean?

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Surely his publicist didn't help him construct this circle jerk.

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I truly believe the rumors about his Wonderlic.
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Great interpretation.......of a difficult subject. LOL. MSR.
 
welsh texan said:
This guy simply cannot learn his lesson can he? That interview just reads horribly, and I doubt it was much better to watch/listen to.

If he had shown some maturity since completely ****ing up his chance in Tennessee, maybe I'd be interested in him as a backup, but even Matty L knew to say the right things at that stage of his career, and from everything I read through last season, he showed great maturity.

Why doesn't anybody tell VY to get a grip?
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Surprisingly, the video was better than these excerpts would lead you to believe. Apparently the author of this piece cherry picked the worse quotes he could find to make VY seem stupid. The link takes you to an interview with Eisen where Rich asks VY for his take (VY's) on the Sanchez/Tebow situation and the Saints bounty situation. I'm confused as to where those quotes came from because they aren't from the posted video. In fact who does ATL refer to since, in the video, VY talked to Rich Eisen.
 
infantrycak said:
Short conversation of Tom Condon working:

Tom Condon: Hey VY would like to play in Houston.
Rick Smith: No.
Tom Condon: No he really wants to come to Houston.
Rick Smith: No.
Tom Condon: He'd be motivated this time, he promises.
Rick Smith: Which part of "no" don't you understand?
Tom Condon: The "no" part.
Rick Smith: Now I understand why VY picked you as his agent.
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Rick Smith: How about HELL NO! I tell ya what. Let me give you the phone number of the HR department of the concessions contractor. Maybe you can work out something with them.
 
ObsiWan said:
In fact who does ATL refer to since, in the video, VY talked to Rich Eisen.
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I also saw a segment on NFL Network, with Vince, Sapp, Torry Holt, and Eisen. None of the Young quotes came from that, either. I think this interview must have occurred off camera. I can't think of anyone at NFLN with the initials "ATL".
 
Vince isn't the best speaker, no doubt, but that's no reason to hate on an athlete. He is clueless, though, and still without humility or perspective.

ATL: Did you learn anything from the "Dream Team" comment and subsequent fallout?

VY: Not really.
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"Nuff said. :smiliepalm:
 
infantrycak said:
Short conversation of Tom Condon working:

Tom Condon: Hey VY would like to play in Houston.
Rick Smith: No.
Tom Condon: No he really wants to come to Houston.
Rick Smith: No.
Tom Condon: He'd be motivated this time, he promises.
Rick Smith: Which part of "no" don't you understand?
Tom Condon: The "no" part.
Rick Smith: Now I understand why VY picked you as his agent.
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Short conversation of Tom Cordon working:

Tom Condon: Hey VY would like to play in Houston.
Bob McNair: Not sure about that one, Tom!
Tom Condom: You'll sell a guaranteed 50,000 jerseys he'll sign for the veteran minimum.
Bob McNair: YeeeeeHaaa!
 
i was thinking about dis in bed the perfect spot for tebow would have been

Jags
Ravens
maybe pittsburg
CHeifs

i didnt think of NFC tho LOL

prob like

Redskins
st louis
cards
 
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