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Peyton Manning recovering from second neck surgery

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For the second time in as many years, Peyton Manning has undergone surgery on his neck.

Mike Chappell of the Indianapolis Star reports that Manning underwent a “minimally invasive” procedure Monday to fix a disc-related issue. He underwent surgery last March to relieve pain from a pinched nerve. It’s believed Manning has been working with teammates this offseason until this problem popped up.

Manning spent Monday evening in an Indianapolis hospital before returning to his local home Tuesday.

“There is plenty of time for recovery,’’ Manning told Chappell, noting that after his last surgery he was working out within a week and lifting weights within two weeks.

Manning is downplaying the severity of the issue and sounded optimistic about being ready for team activities, when they resume. Still, Manning has now undergone two surgeries in 15 months in the same area after a remarkably healthy career. He’s 35 years old and at a point in his career when it’s fair to wonder if his peak is behind him.

The surgery comes at a difficult time for Manning; he’s expected to work out a long-term contract with the Colts after the lockout that would make him the league’s highest paid player.
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Most would be thinking in terms of Manning worrying about additional playing trauma to his head and neck area. But more acutely worrisome, this is a cervical problem causing pain and/or numbness and/or weakness of the arm(s) and/or hand(s)......not a particularly good problem for a QB to be dealing with.
 
Manning could be in a full body cast and still scare me. As a Texan fan, I wouldn't get my hopes up about this. I'm sure Manning will be fit and ready for the season. If not though, the Colts are screwed. Do they even have a backup that's worth anything?
 
Terming the surgery as a "very non-evasive procedure," Irsay insists that he isn't worried that the injury will become a long-term concern.
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Whew! Thank the Lord, it's not evasive! Everyone can stop worrying right now!:hurrah:
 
Manning is 35 and his prime left him after he threw an INT in the Super Bowl to lose the game.

He has been plagued with all kinds of weird aliments the last few years and now he pinches a nerve while playing catch with his team mates?
 
A Texan will get turf toe and it will somehow become a career ender.
Manning will have neck surgery and come back better.

Texan Chick knows why
 
I don't like that we got stuck with the season opener again facing Manning/Colts because I think it provides more of a motivation for the Colts to avenge last years season opening embarrassment in Reliant than it does for us to repeat the performance, certainly our best game of the year.
 
Only about 4% of cervical spine injuries in the NFL are suffered by QBs. When a QB expects to be sacked, he usually takes a fetal like position, with his head tucked in. Any trauma, accidental or not, to the top of his head by a defensive player is enough to create a herniation of a cervical disc. Once it occurs once, it becomes more vulnerable to lesser trauma. If one level is treated, it can put more stress on the adjacent disc. It can act as a domino effect. If Manning had his 2nd non-invasive procedure on the same segment, he can probably expect to go on to an open cervical fusion procedure (ala Slaton) sometime in the future........especially if he sustains further trauma to the area.

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Most would be thinking in terms of Manning worrying about additional playing trauma to his head and neck area. But more acutely worrisome, this is a cervical problem causing pain and/or numbness and/or weakness of the arm(s) and/or hand(s)......not a particularly good problem for a QB to be dealing with.

So he does have a cervix. I knew it with all that bitching he does to the refs.
 
From today's Indianapolis Star:

Quarterback Peyton Manning hasn't thrown since undergoing surgery to repair a disk-related issue in his neck May23, but he was at Morton's, where he was excused from carrying a tray, and at the softball game, where he didn't take a spot in the lineup.

Curtis Painter, his backup, is healthy and throwing, and on Thursday, was golfing.

Not carrying a restaurant tray?......or participating in a softball game? Following the procedure he underwent, these activities, especially the 1st, would normally be "on the menu" within a few days following the surgery.
Being extra careful? Not a reasonable explanation.
 
Excuse me if I seem to have remained so skeptical about situation and progression of events. But his lack of having his "personal therapist" is not why his rehab schedule is so slow. It is because the significance of his injury(ies) have been minimized.

Peyton Manning has “no idea” when he’ll be ready to go

Colts quarterback Peyton Manning is at the annual Manning Passing Academy, but he’s not doing any passing. Manning said he’s not ready to throw, has “no idea” when he will be, and is concerned about his recovery from May neck surgery. And Manning blames the lockout for his inability to work with the physical therapist he most trusts.

“The lockout didn’t allow me to work my [Colts] therapist, Erin Barill, and I’m just not comfortable taking any chances with this thing,” Manning told ESPN’s Chris Mortensen. “Erin knows me. He’s rehabbed me through two other surgeries [neck and knee] and I think most people understand that once you build up a trust with your therapist, that’s the guy you want and need to work with.”

So as long as the lockout is going on, Manning won’t be able to say whether he’s healthy enough to play. We have a feeling that when the lockout ends and Manning is negotiating a new contract with the Colts, he’ll be saying he expects to be at full strength for years to come.
 
Excuse me if I seem to have remained so skeptical about situation and progression of events. But his lack of having his "personal therapist" is not why his rehab schedule is so slow. It is because the significance of his injury(ies) have been minimized.

Peyton Manning has “no idea” when he’ll be ready to go

That's right Peyton. Don't throw. Take however long you need. Afterall you are just playing Houston 1st week of the season.
 
Colts expect Peyton Manning to miss start of camp
By MICHAEL MAROT AP SPORTS WRITER
July 29, 2011, 12:58PM

INDIANAPOLIS - The pain in Peyton Manning's neck will keep him off the practice field early next week.

Indianapolis still isn't sure how long it will take to get the four-time MVP back.

Colts coach Jim Caldwell said Friday that the Colts will be cautious with their franchise quarterback, who had neck surgery in May, and will not push him too hard. Camp opens Monday at Anderson University.

"Obviously, he's not ready right now, but nobody works harder and is more dedicated than him," Caldwell said. "When he's ready, we'll turn him loose."

Caldwell did not provide a timetable for Manning's return.

It's the second time in four years the Colts will open camp without Manning.

In 2008, Manning missed all of training with an infected bursa sac in his left knee, which required two surgeries. He struggled during the first half of the season, but led the Colts to nine straight wins to make it back into the playoffs.

He also had neck surgery in March 2010 but recovered and did not miss any practices at camp.

The only other time Manning has missed even a portion of training camp was in 1998, when he was one week before signing his first contract.

Teammates said they aren't concerned that Manning won't be throwing right away.

"I've told him to be as cautious as he needs to be because the last time I checked, we don't count preseason games," Pro Bowl center Jeff Saturday said. "I can tell you this, there's not a player that works harder than he does."

The questions about Manning's health have been increasing ever since he had the surgery.

In June, Archie Manning, Peyton's father, said his son's rehab wasn't going as quickly as expected. A month later, at the family's annual passing academy, Peyton Manning barely threw and said he was being cautious with his rehab because lockout rules prevented him from working out with Colts team trainers.

Last week, team owner Jim Irsay acknowledged Manning might not be ready when practices begin Monday, a position he reiterated just hours after the lockout ended.

"You don't want him doing too much too soon and you don't know on recoveries," Irsay said. "A lot of times eight weeks is enough. But to get a full recovery, it's going to be a little longer in this case."

Caldwell said the coaches have not had a chance to see where Manning yet, and he's not sure when they will.

Manning is still locked into negotiations for a long-term contract that could keep him in Indy for the rest of his career. In February, the Colts tagged Manning as their exclusive franchise player, meaning he would make about $23 million this season if he signed the one-year offer.

Until he signs one or the other, Manning couldn't practice anyway.

Irsay has promised to make Manning the highest-paid player in league history, but even he acknowledges that's a very high price with a salary cap slated at $120.3 million. Indy hopes that by lowering Manning's salary cap number, they will be able to sign more of their free agents.

The team also confirmed Friday that it had agreed to new deals with kicker Adam Vinatieri and safety Melvin Bullitt. On Thursday, the Colts also lost linebacker Clint Session to Jacksonville, which signed him to a five-year deal worth more than $29 million.

Two key players were still out there: Running back Joseph Addai and left tackle Charlie Johnson, two players who would help protect Indy's biggest investment.

"We've been in a lockout, and when you think about that, it's very difficult to get that (Manning's deal) done in two, three days," Caldwell said. "It's going to take a couple days, and it will be done at some point in time. When it is, we'll be ready to go."

Manning isn't the only player the Colts have been getting medical checks on.

Pro Bowl tight end Dallas Clark has been cleared for full participation and will wear a splint on the wrist he injured last fall, the team said. Other key players cleared to practice are receiver Anthony Gonzalez (knee), tight end Brody Eldridge (knee), cornerback Kelvin Hayden (neck) and cornerbacks Jerraud Powers (foot, arm) and Kevin Thomas (knee).

The team also said that receiver Austin Collie has not shown any lingering symptoms of the two concussions that forced him to finish last season on injured reserve. He is expected to be a full participant in practice next week.

"I feel good, I'm excited to get back into it," Collie said. "At this point, everything is great."

Except, of course, the status of Manning.

"Whenever he's ready, he'll come back," Caldwell said. "He gets himself ready faster than most people."

Again, I would base the question of Manning's slow progress on the nature and severity of his injury, rather than on the non-availability of his favorite trainer.

When Manning is finally able to return to action, especially for regular season play.........look for every time Manning gets hit, Colts fans cringing and turning away with "anxiety," Caldwell popping Pepcid, and Irsay reaching for his nitroglycerin.
 
I find it hard as hell to believe that the Dolts gave him a 5 year $90M deal .... are they freaking crazy ?!
 
I find it hard as hell to believe that the Dolts gave him a 5 year $90M deal .... are they freaking crazy ?!

They have become desperate, not accepting of the possibility of a life after Peyton........and turning a blind eye to preparing for a future without him........case in point, their history of non-development of, and current acquisition of their back up QB.
 
They have become desperate, not accepting of the possibility of a life after Peyton........and turning a blind eye to preparing for a future without him........case in point, their history of non-development of, and current acquisition of their back up QB.

It's a beautiful thing. Their days are numbered and the wheels are already starting to fall off with their aging players.
 
They know they're not getting another Peyton Manning after he retires, makes sense to upgrade their OL before getting drafting a QB. They'll probably run more, too.
 
Colts fans that have attended camp have said without Costanzo or Diem practicing that the Oline looks about as bad as it's been since Peyton has been there.
 
Colts fans that have attended camp have said without Costanzo or Diem practicing that the Oline looks about as bad as it's been since Peyton has been there.

Sounds like the perfect opportunity for Mario to get some confidence at OLB in week 1! :D
 
I'll believe it when I see it. I fully expect Peyton to play like Peyton and for his line to do a good enough job on him.

I will wait until he starts throwing errant passes, takes a ton of hits, or folds like an accordion before I write-off the Colts.
 
We might find ourselves going up against Painter or Orlovsky that first game if that line looks bad enough.

The Colts braintrust will put Peyton out there no matter how good/bad the line looks. I swear to god if our CB/S department can cover the receivers for more than 2 seconds then we have a good shot at making life absolutely miserable for Manning.
 
The Colts braintrust will put Peyton out there no matter how good/bad the line looks. I swear to god if our CB/S department can cover the receivers for more than 2 seconds then we have a good shot at making life absolutely miserable for Manning.

Manning looked a lot more regular last season any way. His WR's weren't as great as previous seasons and his O line wasn't blocking quite as well. With this injury thing and no other acquisitions I could definitely see the Colts drop off even more from last season along with Manning's play. Of course I wouldn't be surprised to seem them go back to a 12-4 type of season either though.
 
Manning should just retire while he can still walk. :evil:


Dang........am I pumped about out opener now!!!!!!!!:pissed:

From Mike Chappell of the Indianapolis Star:

The Indianapolis Colts veteran quarterback was running and throwing on the Macholtz Stadium field late this afternoon. One person who saw Manning throwing said he was doing so with "decent velocity."

The Star's other Colts beat writer, Phil Wilson, went on the local ESPN affiliate in Indianapolis earlier today and said that he did not think Peyton would practice at all during training camp and the he would not play a snap in preseason. Wilson thinks that the first time Manning will take a snap from center in a game-like situation is in an actual game: Week One in Houston against the Texans.

Peyton Manning is on the P.U.P. list to start camp while he rehabs from neck surgery, which was conducted in May. This is the third surgery for Manning in four years, and his second neck-related surgery in two.
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A hungry Texans defense with a new scheme is something that Manning has to look forward to. Hopefully he will have to play catch up all game, too. The Texans should have enough incentive for this game, and if they don't, shame on them for being soft as puppy poop.

I want Manning to feel his age in that game. I do not want to see him injured, but I do want to see our defense go after him with a relentless physical pounding that leaves him with the clear impression that our team is no longer his door mat. In short, I want him to dread the Houston Texans and Reliant Stadium.
 
I'm beginning to be more convinced that something's not right. No matter what, the longer Manning goes without practicing with his team, the less likely you see him on September11 or you see a noticeably different Manning out there.

The wait for Peyton Manning continues for Colts
While not as hidden as he was back in 2008, the quarterback still remains without a snap during camp in Anderson

5:02 PM EDT, August 16, 2011


If Jim Caldwell is frustrated, he tries his very hardest not to show it.

Even if his answers may frustrate some media and fans.

"I don't complain about anything," said the Colts' head coach on Tuesday, understanding that doing so can sometimes make those on the outside unhappy.

Later Caldwell added: "My father never complained about a thing-and I've taken on his traits."

So perhaps that's why he remains calm as he must gives a very general but not specific update on the Colts' franchise player.

"What I can tell you is that he’s rehabbing extremely well and is coming along," said Caldwel of Peyton Manning, who remains on the sidelines still recovering from off season neck surgery. "The doctors have him on pace and they’ll make the determination at some point when he can get out doing something for us.”

Right now it hasn't been much. Watching a few practices and signing a few autographs for fans here and there during the first two weeks of training camp. Manning was also on the sidelines for the Colts first preseason game against the Rams last Saturday.

Once during camp, Manning held a closed workout in which a source told the Indianapolis Star that he was throwing with "decent velocity."

While this might seem secretive, its nothing compared to his 2008 training camp injury. When a infected bursa sac in his knee kept Manning out for all of training camp, he was never seen on the Rose Hulman campus or even on a practice field.

It wasn't until the team toured Lucas Oil Stadium that he emerged with a taped up knee and conducted a news conference soon after.

While it seems likely that Manning will be out for the next two practices, its not for lack of want on the quarterbacks part.

"If I said that missing training camp had no impact on that season, then that would be going against everything I believe about offseason work," said Manning when he arrived at camp on July 31st. "I do think football will have a toll taken on it, because there has been no offseason and no minicamps. When I get back to being healthy, I will give you as accurate a description as I can.

"It is hard for me to predict, because it is a different injury. I want to get back very soon, but I certainly have some work to do.”
 
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I know I can't say this because he's the enemy... but I really really like Peyton Manning and think he's a great person and player. I hope he fully recovers from this injury. But at the same time, I hope it takes him a while to get back to his normal self. Game 1 should be much easier for us and I'll take a win any how we can get it. This should really impact the Colts season and help our chances of winning the AFC South for the first time ever.
 
I would love to see Dan O playing QB on Sept 11th. Our defense could use a 5th preseason game to get in gear.

Yep.

Child Protective Services should be on the sidelines, prepared to remove certain Texans players from the facility if Dan is their starting QB.

Because a child will be getting his azz beaten out there, all day long.

They might as well direct-snap to the WRs and RBs if Dan is their starter.
 
Texans win the coin toss and elect to kick off.

First play of the game: Dan Orlovsky runs out of the back of the endzone.

Texans 2
Colts 0
 
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