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Is there any interest in Vince Young???

Bipolar The Titan

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I tried searching the forums, surprisingly, I didn't find much, but I'm wondering how many of you guys would be interested in taking Vince Young on. I'd like to see him land in Houston quite honestly. He kind of has a nice Trojan horse quality about him.... but after all you've seen, does anyone here want VY for the Texans, even as a #2?
 
I tried searching the forums, surprisingly, I didn't find much, but I'm wondering how many of you guys would be interested in taking Vince Young on. I'd like to see him land in Houston quite honestly. He kind of has a nice Trojan horse quality about him.... but after all you've seen, does anyone here want VY for the Texans, even as a #2?

I'd love to see him start for the Titans!
 
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I tried searching the forums, surprisingly, I didn't find much, but I'm wondering how many of you guys would be interested in taking Vince Young on. I'd like to see him land in Houston quite honestly. He kind of has a nice Trojan horse quality about him.... but after all you've seen, does anyone here want VY for the Texans, even as a #2?

Been awhile, good to see you back.

Might check any of the Austin sports web sites, their has to be a VY love fest going on somewhere around those parts.

After his on the field conduct I personally would not want him anywhere near the Texans even if all he does is just whine, I mean win.
 
After his on the field conduct I personally would not want him anywhere near...
exactly. I've debated too many times with Titan fans who would actually like to see him return in 2011 about the significance of that incident and the ensuing verbal confrontation. It's affirming to see that even in a town like Houston, VY is not in demand.

Sincerely, I would like to hear from anyone who actually would like to take a flyer on VY. Apart from that, I'd also like to see the Eagles take VY. If Vick were to go down, which is likely, I'd love to see how VY responds to the "brotherly love" of Philadelphia. Vince thought Nashville fans were tough on him. Philadelphia fans are just plain hostile!
 
Absolutely none. On a 1-10 scale, -10.

Anti-Staubach. Promises a lot and delivers nothing.

Wow. That's a strong feeling but can you honestly tell me your feelings about Vince Young when the Texans were on the clock with the number 1 pick overall? History is the best judge and CLEARLY Williams was the best player available, hindsight 20/20, but how did you feel about VY back in April 2006?
 
Absolutely none. On a 1-10 scale, -10.

Anti-Staubach. Promises a lot and delivers nothing.
No! I was his fan while @ UT and loved the game @ Rose Bowl but imo he is a prima donna with minimal skills that easily over come by his attitude.
 
We have some folks who lobby for him ( not on here ) and all they care about is he's from here . You bring in VY and Matt can throw 4 tds and 550 yds but get sacked on a 3rd and 7 because he doesn't scramble well and they'll scream for VY .
 
I think Vince needs a attitude adjustment. He needs to swallow his pride and be content with a backup role this year. He says he wants to start....I think he needs some good coaching and work on his position. Maybe he can compete for a starting job in the future....but no at this point.....
 
I'll always love Vince the Longhorn.

Vince the Pro....not so much. Dude's got entitlement issues that would only get worse if he were playing in Houston.

Not to mention the drama that would come with him. If he were a backup, then there would be riots in the stands every time Schaub throws an interception.
 
exactly. I've debated too many times with Titan fans who would actually like to see him return in 2011 about the significance of that incident and the ensuing verbal confrontation. It's affirming to see that even in a town like Houston, VY is not in demand.

Sincerely, I would like to hear from anyone who actually would like to take a flyer on VY. Apart from that, I'd also like to see the Eagles take VY. If Vick were to go down, which is likely, I'd love to see how VY responds to the "brotherly love" of Philadelphia. Vince thought Nashville fans were tough on him. Philadelphia fans are just plain hostile!

There are certain things that a QB can "rehabilitate." A pattern of running out on a team isn't one of them.
 
History is the best judge and CLEARLY Williams was the best player available, hindsight 20/20, but how did you feel about VY back in April 2006?
I didn't think Young would make it as a QB in the NFL. But that was based on his passing and ability to see the field as a passer. I never foresaw the problems Young had with Fisher. And I thought the Wonderlic score was overblown.

As many have said, this is the absolute wrong place for Young to resurrect his career. He needs to dump his entourage and enablers and go to a team with a good QB coach. If the Eagles trade Kolb, backing up Vick in Philly would make a lot of sense. Reid could definitely rehabilitate Young's career.
 
If you think the distraction from the Vinceophiles will cause the end of the Smithiak era then there is some merit. Outside of that, no reason to even entertain the thought.
 
Vince Young needs to do what Michael Vick did when Vick joined the Eagles: humble himself. For years, the problem with Vick was that he was a run first, run second, throw third QB. He had a strong arm but little to no accuracy. When Vick got to the Eagles he was humble enough to take coaching. He learned to throw the ball and became a passer. Last season's success is directly related to his arm, not his legs.

Vince Young needs to realize he has to become a passer to have any longevity in football. If he can do that, then he will find a place in the league. If not, he is done. I would suggest he go to a place like New England and sit and learn behind Brady. Like Vick, he could come in for a WC play 2 or 3 times a game. Then the next year he can play in blowouts and showcase his talent.
 
Absolutely none. On a 1-10 scale, -10.

Anti-Staubach. Promises a lot and delivers nothing.
I'm not a VY and nor do I want him here, but what is his record versus Schaubs? I bet VY's is higher. He may not be an NFL QB, but he does put up more W's than L's. That has to be among the list of considerations.
 
I'm not a VY and nor do I want him here, but what is his record versus Schaubs? I bet VY's is higher. He may not be an NFL QB, but he does put up more W's than L's. That has to be among the list of considerations.

The Titans try to rely on defense and the running game and special teams to an extent. This inflates VY when viewed by w/l... I mean, Kerry Collins took Tennessee to 13-3 in 2008. Collins is not that good. Vince did make a wild scramble ftw in ot once upon a time but Tennessee also once settled for eight fg's in a win versus Houston too. That's A LOT of fg tries. I'm just saying a more effective offense moves the markers and scores td's.

I like the AV stat. It's interesting.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SchaMa00.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/Y/YounVi00.htm

according to Approximate Value rankings Matt Schaub is 1437th overall since 1950 while Vince Young is 3061st overall since 1950. Matt Schaub is a passer. He plays the position well. It's unfortunate that he's had injury trouble since joining the Texans.
 
The Titans try to rely on defense and the running game and special teams to an extent. This inflates VY when viewed by w/l... I mean, Kerry Collins took Tennessee to 13-3 in 2008. Collins is not that good. Vince did make a wild scramble ftw in ot once upon a time but Tennessee also once settled for eight fg's in a win versus Houston too. That's A LOT of fg tries. I'm just saying a more effective offense moves the markers and scores td's.

I like the AV stat. It's interesting.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SchaMa00.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/Y/YounVi00.htm

according to Approximate Value rankings Matt Schaub is 1437th overall since 1950 while Vince Young is 3061st overall since 1950. Matt Schaub is a passer. He plays the position well. It's unfortunate that he's had injury trouble since joining the Texans.
He had injuroes, bt I hardly count that as injury problems.
 
I'm not a VY and nor do I want him here, but what is his record versus Schaubs? I bet VY's is higher. He may not be an NFL QB, but he does put up more W's than L's. That has to be among the list of considerations.

Lol... Mark Sanchez has a better record than Schaub. I guess we should trade for him? Maybe Tony Romo? Or Jake Delhomme? Donovan McNabb?
 
From a pure fan perspective most of Houston would say no due to the small yet insufferable group of UT fans that would hound the radio stations urging him to start over anybody that might happen to occupy the QB1 spot. From a coaching standpoint I would think Kubiak would tend to avoid a QB like VY since Kubes seems to value the ability to read defenses and kill them with a medium passing game, where as Vince will kill you with some interceptions but his release time and long ball accuracy are still fairly good.

The 2007 and 2008 Titans squads could make a lot of QB's look really good with that running game and defense. Hell, Flacco and Sanchez have both made a killing by looking just good enough to pass as an NFL QB on their respective squads due to the supporting casts they have. I'm sure you are already quite aware of this and I'm not even sure why I didn't just say that neither coaches nor most of the fans would be in favor of signing him to a competitive contract to be a QB2 at best.

EDIT: Of the teams that drafted no QB at all I can see Buffalo, and Arizona making serious runs at him to have him be a starter. He could end up in a camp battle vs Matt Leinart which would make me laugh quite a bit seeing as how they were both playing for the Title against each other in 2005.
 
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I'm not a VY and nor do I want him here, but what is his record versus Schaubs? I bet VY's is higher. He may not be an NFL QB, but he does put up more W's than L's. That has to be among the list of considerations.

I think this is a lot like "You know, every time I go play golf...the weather is damn nice for some reason."

It's just a coincidence, IMO. And so is Vince Young's "I just win games" theory.

All in all, his judgment day came. Judgment: Failure.

When VY is scrambling, and when other facets of his team fire on all cylinders, and an element of pure luck exists for his team, then "Yeah, he puts up a lot of wins." Otherwise, he freaks out and implodes because things aren't going his way. The pressure is too great, and he collapses under the weight of expectations.

The pinnacle of his career was the UT-USC title game.

He's going to land somewhere. He's going to find a way to periodically pull a rabbit out of his ass (cue the jokes!) with his new team, and the hype machine will start all over again. Then, he's going to invent new ways to blow it. :spit:
 
I would love to see VY playing for the Redskins. This is because there are so many Cowboys/VY fans in this town. Many whom always got on me for not rooting for him in Tennessee. I always told them that I look at the uniform, not the player.

I would love to still see them rooting for VY while playing for their team's rival. I am very curious if that would happen.

He apparently is working out with AP in Houston.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...-for-houstonarea-workouts?module=HP_headlines
 
Our front office can seem pretty stupid at times (and they are), but even they are not stupid enough to bring VY to Houston.
 
I didn't think Young would make it as a QB in the NFL. But that was based on his passing and ability to see the field as a passer. I never foresaw the problems Young had with Fisher. And I thought the Wonderlic score was overblown.

As many have said, this is the absolute wrong place for Young to resurrect his career. He needs to dump his entourage and enablers and go to a team with a good QB coach. If the Eagles trade Kolb, backing up Vick in Philly would make a lot of sense. Reid could definitely rehabilitate Young's career.

This is the one. Once you think you are owed success, you are doomed. VY is a kid that nobody ever corrected. It doesn't matter how good a football player you are, when you are growing up, you have warts.
 
I would love to see VY playing for the Redskins. This is because there are so many Cowboys/VY fans in this town. Many whom always got on me for not rooting for him in Tennessee. I always told them that I look at the uniform, not the player.

I would love to still see them rooting for VY while playing for their team's rival. I am very curious if that would happen.

He apparently is working out with AP in Houston.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...-for-houstonarea-workouts?module=HP_headlines


And he looked like an all-pro against them this year. Wasn't a whole lot of Cowboy fans talking great about him that day.

I don't want Vince here because of what he's done in Tenn. However, I will give some reason as to why it wouldn't be a bad idea. Some serious and some just being funny:

1. Bob Mcnair can then take a picture with him, Mario and Vince with him shooting everyone the finger with captions that say "Got'em both now and at a way lesser cost for one of 'em. How ya like me now?"

2. I've always felt that Vince would excel in a WCO. As many of you may remember, there were a few games that perhaps we could've closed out on offense with at least one more first down but Matt Schaub's insistence to slide laterally and still try to find a receiver when all he had to do was fall forward for a first down on 3rd and 2 would bring our defense back on the field. The WCO offense relies on two things - the run and play action. Go back and look at the succesful WCOs and you will see that they've all had a QB who was not afraid to emphasize the run part by tucking the ball when the yards needed were in front of them - Elway, Montana, Young, Vick, Plummer, Mcnabb. Vince would be pretty awesome in that sense.

3. I believe Kubiak does alot for QBs and it's pretty obvious our organization doesn't put up with attitudes based on some players that have come and gone.

4. I believe Vince has the arm strength to hit Andre in stride which could make our offense explosive. I remember alot of us were complaining about how even Walter would have to come back for deep balls that even he could've scored on if hit in stride.

Here are my reasons I don't want Vince here:

1. People who left this team as fans would all of a sudden be die hard Texan fans again. Matter of fact, that was the main reason I started to not like Vince other than the fact he went to a rival team. I started to notice all these people showing interest in us or saying they would become Texan fans if Vince were drafted by us. To many people getting a taste of my team, I didn't like that.

2. Vince's ability to run probably takes the ball out of our best players hands - Andre and Arian.

3. I believe Kubiak does alot for QBs and it's pretty obvious our organization doesn't put up with attitudes based on some players that have come and gone.

4. I believe Vince has the arm strength to hit Andre in stride which could make our offense explosive. I remember alot of us were complaining about how even Walter would have to come back for deep balls that even he could've scored on if hit in stride.

Here are my reasons I don't want Vince here:

1. People who left this team as fans would all of a sudden be die hard Texan fans again. Matter of fact, that was the main reason I started to not like Vince other than the fact he went to a rival team. I started to notice all these people showing interest in us or saying they would become Texan fans if Vince were drafted by us. To many people getting a taste of my team, I didn't like that.

2. Vince's ability to run probably takes the ball out of our best players hands - Andre and Arian.

3. Vince will not be as accurate as Schaub with the over the middle throws.

4. If there is one thing I've liked about Schaub it is that he keeps his head in the game for all 4 quarters and his leadership during hard times of the season. Sometimes he alone is the reason why we are in games we have no business being in or winning (Redskins and Chiefs games last year). Though Vince has shown to be clutch, sometimes it's Vince alone who makes his team have to be in clutch situations and when things are going bad Vince pouts.
 
I do think he has the skills to make it in the NFL, but he cannot read defenses well and makes too many mistakes. Adn those mistakes lead to losses and boos which he has shown are too much for him to deal with. He is emotionally weak and far too immature to be a good QB. I don't care that he's from here. I don't want him and we don't need him.
 
Man, it feels great coming in on a Monday morning, gettin my morning coffee, gettin my work scheduled around my message boarding for the day and opening my favorite place to visit.....only to see this friggin thread at the top of the page. Thanks a lot, neg rep for everyone
 
Wow. That's a strong feeling but can you honestly tell me your feelings about Vince Young when the Texans were on the clock with the number 1 pick overall? History is the best judge and CLEARLY Williams was the best player available, hindsight 20/20, but how did you feel about VY back in April 2006?

Typical case of a college QB not translating into the NFL.. And that's what I pretty much thought before, during and after that particular draft.
 
Man, it feels great coming in on a Monday morning, gettin my morning coffee, gettin my work scheduled around my message boarding for the day and opening my favorite place to visit.....only to see this friggin thread at the top of the page. Thanks a lot, neg rep for everyone

Just look at it as total and complete confirmation that we indeed made the right decision.
 
On ONE hand VY is a FIERCE competitor who puts 100% into each game in which he plays. On the OTHER he's not that good at reading defenses, his passes aren't that accurate and he tends to blow up at coaches. If he learned to take direction from coaches I'd say let him play back up.
 
I tried searching the forums, surprisingly, I didn't find much, but I'm wondering how many of you guys would be interested in taking Vince Young on. I'd like to see him land in Houston quite honestly. He kind of has a nice Trojan horse quality about him.... but after all you've seen, does anyone here want VY for the Texans, even as a #2?

VY would be a good back up QB to have for any team "other than the Texans." There are a ton of blind homers for VY out here that refuse to see any of his shortcomings, but there are aslo lot of blind haters that hate VY out here as well to the point that they refuse to see his any of his positives. Between both, you have a lot of fans on both sides that either have to much fanship for the guy or to much hatred for the guy to form an opinion with any logic involved. So, with that being the case if he were here as a backup like Mr. White pointed out you'd have riots in the stands every time Schaub threw an INT or had a bad game. Callers would be calling the radio stations going nuts every time the Texans lost a game and there would be a lot of bitter fan divide that would do more harm than good.

Another reason why I wouldn't want him here is because it's just to close to home and to many of his entourage counter parts that would be around trying to hang and continue to leach off of the guy. I just don't think that playing in Houston would be all that good for VY at this point in time of his career.

I do think that he's capable of resurrecting his career though. He needs to go to the right situation with a coach that believes in him though. He needs to go to a coach that isn't going to pull him at the first time he makes a mistake like Fisher did last season. VY showed a ton of improvement in those last 8 games of the season two years ago especially as a passer. I don't know exactly where he is at now, since he didn't play much last season, but I'd like to find out and watch him somewhere else. There are several teams where I think he could compete and probably win the starting job right now, especially in San Fran. I think he could add a nice dose to that offense in San Fran that's been stagnant for years now. Minnesota wouldn't be a bad place for him either. I think that would be smart for them to bring him in as a stop gap guy for a year or so while they train up that rookie they just got. If VY works out, then they've got a good problem on their hands. At least in Minnesota and in San Fran VY would have nice weapons to work with to help him out. Other than CJ, he never had any good weapons in the passing game which obviously made things a little more difficult in Tennessee.
 
No.

Vince Young needs to get as far away as he can from this region. Nashville is still too close to Houston and Austin, which is why we're always hearing about him turning up in Houston every other weekend.

Time for this guy to grow up, become a man - a focused man - and leave the entourage behind. Someplace far from this region, like Seattle or Boston or Minneapolis, is what he needs. He needs to be around fans that aren't going to praise him 24 hours a day, and he needs to be challenged.

The guy still has talent, but he still has to grow up.

Keep him far, far away from Houston.
 
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