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Browns Cut Shaun Rogers, Others

HOU-TEX

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Hmm, I think we should at least take a look-see. He had a down year, but I'd give a shot in camp/

Zac Jackson of FOX Sports Ohio reports that the Browns have released DL Shaun Rogers.
Jackson reports that the Browns have also cut RT John St. Clair, LB Eric Barton, TE Robert Royal, and LB David Bowens. Combined, their 2011 salaries were scheduled to add up to $13.84 million. Rogers managed just two sacks in 2010 while seeing a major decline in playing time. He turns 32 in March.
http://www.rotoworld.com/sports/nfl/football?r=1
 

thunderkyss

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steelbtexan

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Browns discards = Championship.
The Texans aren't winning a championship anytime soon anyway.

I would settle for a NT that wouldn't allow 4 yds on 4th and 1. Like Garrard did in the Hail Mary Jags game last yr. (Not asking for much am I ?)

Rodgers could do this.
 

thunderkyss

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The Texans aren't winning a championship anytime soon anyway.

I would settle for a NT that wouldn't allow 4 yds on 4th and 1. Like Garrard did in the Hail Mary Jags game last yr. (Not asking for much am I ?)

Rodgers could do this.
That's obviously not the reason the Browns let him go.

27th rushing defense. 4.1 YPC, 129.4 ypg.


With Rogers, we could've been
13th against the run, 4.0 ypc, 109 ypg
 
I'd sign bring him in for sure. He is a legit 3-4 NT. Problem is, FA will occur AFTER the draft this year, so we have to get a good NT prospect or two in case we cannot sign Rogers.
 

srrono

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The Cleveland Browns have terminated the contracts of six players, including former Pro Bowl nose tackle Shaun Rogers.
SHAUN ROGERS
* Height: 6-4
* Weight: 350
* Born: Mar 12, 1979 - Houston, TX
* College: Texas
* Draft: 2001 - 2nd round (30th pick) by the Detroit Lions

Career stats

355 solo tackles
128 asisted tackles
37.5 sacks
10 year career

link
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/41498716/ns/sports-nfl/
 
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Hervoyel

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Never happen.

From his bio on Wikipedia said:
In June 2007, Rogers was accused of sexually assaulting Curtis Patterson. Charges were never filed due to lack of evidence.


On April 1, 2010, Rogers was arrested at Cleveland Hopkins Airport for having a loaded gun in his carry on luggage.
Assuming that's all true (Wikipedia, grain of salt) then he's not on our radar (if you can call whatever it is the Texans use to find players "radar")

Below: Texans Scout Locating Talent



Edit: Wait up, I see a TE in there. Hmmmm......... Maybe we will get something out of this after all.
 

steelbtexan

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Never happen.



Assuming that's all true (Wikipedia, grain of salt) then he's not on our radar (if you can call whatever it is the Texans use to find players "radar")

Below: Texans Scout Locating Talent



Edit: Wait up, I see a TE in there. Hmmmm......... Maybe we will get something out of this after all.
Hopefully he's pointing the dish towards SEC country.

LOL
 

MFG16

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Wow the year the Texans have one of the worst defenses ever teams release both Aso and Rodgers and let Bailey walk. Theres no excuse McSmithiak, not even the CBA. NO EXCUSE. Get it done, *IF* your serious about winnning.
 

CloakNNNdagger

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One of the reasons that Rodgers is being released besides the $5.5 million in 2011 with a $500,000 roster bonus, is because the Brown's new DC Jauron will be switching from the 3-4 to the 4-3.

The Browns also didn't think that his limited availability following his 2009 season ending leg injury where he missed the entire 2010 camp was worth bringing back a 31 year old. His "leg injury" has never been identified by the team beyond "a severe ankle injury," but it would have had to have been either a ankle break or an Achilles rupture........neither if revealed/confirmed would fare well towards future trade value. Evidently, since he didn't practice all 2010, only to play on Sundays, his injury was significantly compromising his performance. For a 350+ pounder, this is something to consider before getting too excited about getting a planted tree stump.
 

playa465

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One of the reasons that Rodgers is being released besides the $5.5 million in 2011 with a $500,000 roster bonus, is because the Brown's new DC Jauron will be switching from the 3-4 to the 4-3.

The Browns also didn't think that his limited availability following his 2009 season ending leg injury where he missed the entire 2010 camp was worth bringing back a 31 year old. His "leg injury" has never been identified by the team beyond "a severe ankle injury," but it would have had to have been either a ankle break or an Achilles rupture........neither if revealed/confirmed would fare well towards future trade value. Evidently, since he didn't practice all 2010, only to play on Sundays, his injury was significantly compromising his performance. For a 350+ pounder, this is something to consider before getting too excited about getting a planted tree stump.
very true, plus Ahtyba Rubin had a good year making Rogers even more expendable
 
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ChampionTexan

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I'd sign bring him in for sure. He is a legit 3-4 NT. Problem is, FA will occur AFTER the draft this year, so we have to get a good NT prospect or two in case we cannot sign Rogers.
Players waived (or on the street to begin with) can be signed anytime between now and March 4. I'm not sure given his age, injury situation, and recent level of performance you'd look at him as doing much to shore up the NT situation anyway, but he could be signed prior to the draft.

Link to supporting article
 

Rey

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Never happen.

Originally Posted by From his bio on Wikipedia

In June 2007, Rogers was accused of sexually assaulting Curtis Patterson. Charges were never filed due to lack of evidence.


On April 1, 2010, Rogers was arrested at Cleveland Hopkins Airport for having a loaded gun in his carry on luggage.

Assuming that's all true (Wikipedia, grain of salt) then he's not on our radar (if you can call whatever it is the Texans use to find players "radar")

Below: Texans Scout Locating Talent



Edit: Wait up, I see a TE in there. Hmmmm......... Maybe we will get something out of this after all.

Curtis?

He sexually assaulted a Curtis?

I mean, sexual assault is a terrible thing either way...

But a Curtis?

:vincepalm:
 

Ndevine7

Rookie
I think we sign rodgers and then try and draft fua if he's there in the 4th or williams in the 4th or 5th would sure up our nt need
 

Texecutioner

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Texans aren't touching this guy. Bad attitude and problems with the law in the past.

I'd take him for a low salary with not a lot of commitment though. The talent is there and always has been, but Rogers is a lazy under acheiver with an attitude problem that's never improved. He wasn't even the starter last season on the Browns and even they don't want him. He wasn't released just because of his salary. He wasn't worth the money or the hassle anymore to the Browns. He's not worth investing much into, but if a team can get him for a fair price without a long term commitment it's not a bad pick up.
 

HoustonFrog

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I'm not sure why the Texans would want him and it has nothing to do with being a bad boy. It has to do with his laziness and ability to disappear for a season. Even Cowboy boards are wary of this guy with his connection to Ryan. Ryan used to talk about what a stud this guy was and as of late there has been nothing. I'd say for any team getting this guy you take a minimum shot at him and walk away if another team throws cash at him.

Texans aren't touching this guy. Bad attitude and problems with the law in the past.

I'd take him for a low salary with not a lot of commitment though. The talent is there and always has been, but Rogers is a lazy under acheiver with an attitude problem that's never improved. He wasn't even the starter last season on the Browns and even they don't want him. He wasn't released just because of his salary. He wasn't worth the money or the hassle anymore to the Browns. He's not worth investing much into, but if a team can get him for a fair price without a long term commitment it's not a bad pick up.
Must have been writing..exactly.
 

GP

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Curtis?

He sexually assaulted a Curtis?

I mean, sexual assault is a terrible thing either way...

But a Curtis?

:vincepalm:
I wonder if that was someone playing a joke:

"Sexual assualt, but lack of evidence" could be construed as meaning he doesn't have anything to assault with.

Adding more salt to the wound is that they had him assaulting a man.

Although Wikipedia is often criticized for not being accurate, it often gets corrected at some point. So he might have had an unreported incident that someone threw up there and had to take down due to lack of an official case by prosecutors.

Either way, CND has made some interesting points in regards to his health.

I would like to also add that McNair/Smith/Kubiak have stated they want to catch guys on their way UP and not at the end of their careers. This guy is 31, and possibly has bad wheels and a bad attitude too. Ain't happening.
 

steelbtexan

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Agreed, it isn't going to happen.

How's that we're only going to get up and coming guys worked out for Gary and Rick so far?
 

BrandonLwowski

Waterboy
Do you think we should go after him? we need a big body in the middle and rogers being 350 plus pounds why not...last year was hurt but why not try to pick him up once the cba is final
 

TexansFanatic

Extremist
Never happen.


Originally Posted by From his bio on Wikipedia

In June 2007, Rogers was accused of sexually assaulting Curtis Patterson. Charges were never filed due to lack of evidence.


On April 1, 2010, Rogers was arrested at Cleveland Hopkins Airport for having a loaded gun in his carry on luggage.
In spite of these blemishes on his record, I've heard more than one person say Rogers is a really good man.

The sexual assault charge was dropped due to lack of evidence, which could mean it simply didn't happen.

The gun thing was a stupid mistake.
 
Players waived (or on the street to begin with) can be signed anytime between now and March 4. I'm not sure given his age, injury situation, and recent level of performance you'd look at him as doing much to shore up the NT situation anyway, but he could be signed prior to the draft.

Link to supporting article
Awesome! Thanks!

What do they have to lose by signing him? At worst he could be a pretty good teacher for a drafted NT prospect.
 

Texecutioner

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Awesome! Thanks!

What do they have to lose by signing him? At worst he could be a pretty good teacher for a drafted NT prospect.
A lot of money like the last few teams that have had Rogers. Because of his talent alone he might be able to rape some other team on the market again, but I doubt it. If you get him for a good deal that's fair he's worth the risk especially if you're the Texans, but Rogers has never been a consistently great player. And as far as him teaching you can forget about that. He's not the type and he needs more teaching than anyone really. He still doesn't get what it takes to be a solid professional and that's why even the Browns don't want him.
 

leebigeztx

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I'm not sure why the Texans would want him and it has nothing to do with being a bad boy. It has to do with his laziness and ability to disappear for a season. Even Cowboy boards are wary of this guy with his connection to Ryan. Ryan used to talk about what a stud this guy was and as of late there has been nothing. I'd say for any team getting this guy you take a minimum shot at him and walk away if another team throws cash at him.


Must have been writing..exactly.
This is why the texans have been so average over the years. Talent trumps the other stuff. The guy is dominant at times and changes the los. Does that mean he will dominate every snap? No, but neither does casey hampton and alot of other 350 lbs d-lineman. You get the guy because he forces double teams, has first step quickness, and can dominate at time. You dont ask rogers to play 70 snaps, you play him 35-50 snaps and you rotate him in with another player. He's a 1st and 2nd down type of player like ted washington was and he played well into his late 30's.

The ideal situation would be rogers on early downs and a guy with more wiggle on passing situations. Maybe even use Okoye on 3rd down on the nose. Alan branch and rogers as nt's make the most sense economically. Either that or spend a boatload on Franklin.
 

BetaV1

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He may be a "lazy underachiever" but I'll take a lazy pro-bowler over half the starters on this defense right now.

Sign him. If a player can improve your team, you sign him. That simple. I understand that whole need to be WARY (lol c wat i did thar) about his past, but this is time for the front office to put up or shut up. They need to at least show interest in the guy. Be competitive with whatever team or two is looking at him.
 

Carr Bombed

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Texans aren't touching this guy. Bad attitude and problems with the law in the past.
And I doubt that would have anything to do with their decision not to take him....if that is their decision. That argument is completely overblown and false. Brian Cushing, Amobi Okoye, and Bernard Pollard all had attitude questions or red flags around them before we decided to add them to our team. The Texans don't want knuckleheads, but neither does any other team in the league. They all want to stay away from the Pacman Jones' of the world...and I don't blame them, but that doesn't mean they'll flat out ignore every player with a question mark.
 

gary

Hall of Fame
Everyone knows how talented Shaun is but he has to come ready to play with his head in the game.
 
A lot of money like the last few teams that have had Rogers. Because of his talent alone he might be able to rape some other team on the market again, but I doubt it. If you get him for a good deal that's fair he's worth the risk especially if you're the Texans, but Rogers has never been a consistently great player. And as far as him teaching you can forget about that. He's not the type and he needs more teaching than anyone really. He still doesn't get what it takes to be a solid professional and that's why even the Browns don't want him.
He is multiple time probowler and has been a second team All Pro team member. No Texas DTs have made the probowl or been an All Pro team member.

He is light years ahead of anything we have on this team right now.
 

srrono

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Shaun Rogers was released by the Browns today. He is free to sign with any team he chooses. Immediately.

Rogers loves Houston. It is home.

Rogers plays nose tackle. The Texans need a nose tackle. The Texans have never had an interior defensive lineman as good as Rogers. Rogers has blocked 14 field goals and three extra points in his career.

I believe the Texans have a total of five blocked field goals and two blocked extra points in franchise history. (To be fair, Rogers has been around one season longer than the Texans.)

Rogers had an off-season for him because of injuries (he played only about 40 percent of the defensive snaps), but he played through them anyway even when he probably shouldn't have been on the field. He will be motivated to get back on top.

Rogers and Shaun Cody would be a great duo at nose tackle in Wade Phillips' defense. Texans and Rogers, a marriage made in heaven.

Something you may not want to know, Solomon: According to divorcerate.org, about 50 percent of first marriages end in divorce; 67 percent of second marriages go that route; and 74 percent of third marriages go the Splitsville way.

Of note, the Texans -- or Cowboys -- would be Rogers' third, um, team.


http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/index.ssf/2011/02/pm_cleveland_browns_links_85.html
 

thunderkyss

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Shaun Rogers was released by the Browns today. He is free to sign with any team he chooses. Immediately.

Rogers loves Houston. It is home.

Rogers plays nose tackle. The Texans need a nose tackle. The Texans have never had an interior defensive lineman as good as Rogers. Rogers has blocked 14 field goals and three extra points in his career.

I believe the Texans have a total of five blocked field goals and two blocked extra points in franchise history. (To be fair, Rogers has been around one season longer than the Texans.)

Rogers had an off-season for him because of injuries (he played only about 40 percent of the defensive snaps), but he played through them anyway even when he probably shouldn't have been on the field. He will be motivated to get back on top.

Rogers and Shaun Cody would be a great duo at nose tackle in Wade Phillips' defense. Texans and Rogers, a marriage made in heaven.

Something you may not want to know, Solomon: According to divorcerate.org, about 50 percent of first marriages end in divorce; 67 percent of second marriages go that route; and 74 percent of third marriages go the Splitsville way.

Of note, the Texans -- or Cowboys -- would be Rogers' third, um, team.


http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/index.ssf/2011/02/pm_cleveland_browns_links_85.html
After listening to the interview previously posted in this thread, I agree. I'd be willing to take a look at the guy. Sit down, talk to the man, find out what he's about.

If he truly wants to play, if he truly believes he is that missing piece we need, I'd sign him. I'd try to low ball him of course, but I'd make sure he doesn't leave Houston without signing on the dotted line.


however, I don't know that he could be signed until there is a CBA in place.
 

JB

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After listening to the interview previously posted in this thread, I agree. I'd be willing to take a look at the guy. Sit down, talk to the man, find out what he's about.

If he truly wants to play, if he truly believes he is that missing piece we need, I'd sign him. I'd try to low ball him of course, but I'd make sure he doesn't leave Houston without signing on the dotted line.


however, I don't know that he could be signed until there is a CBA in place.
He was released. He can sign with any team under the old CBA any time before March 3. However, teams might be leary of signing, because they don't know what the new CBA will bring.
 

drs23

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He was released. He can sign with any team under the old CBA any time before March 3. However, teams might be leary of signing, because they don't know what the new CBA will bring.
In what regard JB? If they do a deal right now, it's a deal, right? How would the future CBA (which ain't gonna happen) affect a deal inked today?

On a side note...is there a deadline for all teams to release players that contracts that will not be renewed, URFA's, RFA's or players they just aren't bringing back?
 

JB

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In what regard JB? If they do a deal right now, it's a deal, right? How would the future CBA (which ain't gonna happen) affect a deal inked today?

On a side note...is there a deadline for all teams to release players that contracts that will not be renewed, URFA's, RFA's or players they just aren't bringing back?

Salary cap ring any bells? Not to mention any signing bonus would enable that player to make it through a potential lockout much easier.
 

drs23

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Salary cap ring any bells? Not to mention any signing bonus would enable that player to make it through a potential lockout much easier.
Salary cap didn't ring any bells. They've gotta sign some folks from somewhere, somehow at a coupla positions, agreed? Whether FA's, released players or whatever. Would not the salary cap be a focus point on any player aquasition?
 

JB

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Salary cap didn't ring any bells. They've gotta sign some folks from somewhere, somehow at a coupla positions, agreed? Whether FA's, released players or whatever. Would not the salary cap be a focus point on any player aquasition?
If they don't know what the cap would be, then they don't know how much room they currently have. I really don't think that would slow them down much though. I think a hard line stance of refusing to sign any current nfl players would slow them down more. And they cannot sign any player that is not released outright prior to March 3. If there is no CBA, there will be no FA's, other than those that are released.
 

drs23

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If they don't know what the cap would be, then they don't know how much room they currently have. I really don't think that would slow them down much though. I think a hard line stance of refusing to sign any current nfl players would slow them down more. And they cannot sign any player that is not released outright prior to March 3. If there is no CBA, there will be no FA's, other than those that are released.
OK, we're on the same page then. I was just reflecting on what I've heard/read about the cap remaing the same or even being elevated slightly perhaps, (memory-no link). If that's the case then all these released players are deader than mackerels until a new CBA? Unless one of the 'damn the torpedos, full speed ahead' teams do it anyway?
 
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