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Those of you defending Finnegan or getting on Andre in order to look even-keel, rational, and politically correct should be ashamed of yourselves, period.
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Someone needs their eyes checked. Finnegan clearly threw the first punch, but Andre still had his helmet on.
Oh, I agree completely that Cortland was looking to piss AJ off. That much is obvious. But a lot of "little things" he does are within the rules of the game. For example, how aggressive his pad punching is when pressing. Trash talking is another, even if it is about family.
I'm sure Cortland does illegal things too and has a history with AJ, but I don't watch enough TEN-HOU games to know much about that. But AJ isn't without his cheap shots. Like I said, the play before he punched Cortland's facemask and then pushed him in the back after the whistle. But most of the fans on this board are too disillusioned to acknowledge that because it doesn't correspond with what's going on in their fantasy worlds, where a Texan can do no harm.
Oh, I agree completely that Cortland was looking to piss AJ off. That much is obvious. But a lot of "little things" he does are within the rules of the game. For example, how aggressive his pad punching is when pressing. Trash talking is another, even if it is about family.
I'm sure Cortland does illegal things too and has a history with AJ, but I don't watch enough TEN-HOU games to know much about that. But AJ isn't without his cheap shots. Like I said, the play before he punched Cortland's facemask and then pushed him in the back after the whistle. But most of the fans on this board are too disillusioned to acknowledge that because it doesn't correspond with what's going on in their fantasy worlds, where a Texan can do no harm.
He did, but you make it seem like Courtland didn't do anything illegal here.
Even so, he instigated the whole thing. Telling other players to 'Watch This' before the whole thing means he knew what he was about to do or say was going to piss off Dre' so much that he would get that type of reaction.
And another person needs their reading comprehension checked. If you read my post, you'll know that it concerns helmet-throwing and not punches.
Oh, I agree completely that Cortland was looking to piss AJ off. That much is obvious. But a lot of "little things" he does are within the rules of the game. For example, how aggressive his pad punching is when pressing. Trash talking is another, even if it is about family.
I'm sure Cortland does illegal things too and has a history with AJ, but I don't watch enough TEN-HOU games to know much about that. But AJ isn't without his cheap shots. Like I said, the play before he punched Cortland's facemask and then pushed him in the back after the whistle. But most of the fans on this board are too disillusioned to acknowledge that because it doesn't correspond with what's going on in their fantasy worlds, where a Texan can do no harm.
A question to a number of you:
If you think Andre did the right thing and approve of it wholeheartedly, why are you applauding him for apologizing? You don't apologize when you've done nothing wrong.
So defend the spearing and personal fouls CF has received the last 3 years playing the Texans. All have been directed towards AJ, usually because he is closing in on 150 yards receiving. There's a history you clearly do not understand. AJ had enough, CF got dealt with.
What'd he do at the Rockets game?
Name one.
Oh, I agree completely that Cortland was looking to piss AJ off. That much is obvious. But a lot of "little things" he does are within the rules of the game. For example, how aggressive his pad punching is when pressing. Trash talking is another, even if it is about family.
I'm sure Cortland does illegal things too and has a history with AJ, but I don't watch enough TEN-HOU games to know much about that. But AJ isn't without his cheap shots. Like I said, the play before he punched Cortland's facemask and then pushed him in the back after the whistle. But most of the fans on this board are too disillusioned to acknowledge that because it doesn't correspond with what's going on in their fantasy worlds, where a Texan can do no harm.
Ya, CF was being an instigator, I agree. I don't deny that CF is a ****-talking, dirty player. I'm merely arguing that his actions didn't warrant that beating. Nor that it was all his fault.
How about you read the sentence DIRECTLY AFTERWARDS.
He was trying to play it off like most punk do when they get stole like that..
LOL....Cortland will be feeling that for a while.
(been watching this GIF for like 5+ minutes......)
Well thats where most of us will differ from you. Most of us have seen this guy play...many many times...and most of us feel it was deserved. That's just our opinion, and apparently the opinion of other fans (and apparently Tony Dungy...) of teams in the same division that see enough of Finny. Go look at the Jags and Colts board. All feel it was deserved.
About whose fault it is, I don't see how that is even a argument. Andre talks trash to no one, yet Finnegan is known for it and is even reported to saying 'Watch this' before the incident. Also I'm positive watching Andre play (and I have never ever missed a Texans game) that Finny's physical play or Finny holding Andre to a mediocre game (For Andre at least) is what led to that.
I mean if that was the case Andre Johnson would have been going at it with other more talented CBs. I remember Flowers was pretty physical with Andre, and Andre showed no signs of anger like he did today.
YES Andre does occasionally do something cheap in order to gain an advantage(Like push off of Flowers in that same game), but pretty much every player does so meh. That doesn't excuse Finnegan for being a douche though.
In his defense Nitro didn't hear him say a word...
I guess you think getting your facemask punched so hard that the back of your head is parallel to the ground couldn't possibly be provocation?
I agree with everything you're saying. But still, how does that warrant a total beatdown? CF talks a lot of **** and is the asshole in that relationship....who cares? Since when is trash talking illegal? And of course people from other MBs in the division will agree with you, b/c as a trash talker, CF will only garner strong distaste from rival fans. In the NFL you just have to compose yourself better, simple as that.
I agree with everything you're saying. But still, how does that warrant a total beatdown? CF talks a lot of **** and is the asshole in that relationship....who cares? Since when is trash talking illegal? And of course people from other MBs in the division will agree with you, b/c as a trash talker, CF will only garner strong distaste from rival fans. In the NFL you just have to compose yourself better, simple as that.
And another person needs their reading comprehension checked. If you read my post, you'll know that it concerns helmet-throwing and not punches.
I agree with everything you're saying. But still, how does that warrant a total beatdown? CF talks a lot of **** and is the asshole in that relationship....who cares? Since when is trash talking illegal? And of course people from other MBs in the division will agree with you, b/c as a trash talker, CF will only garner strong distaste from rival fans. In the NFL you just have to compose yourself better, simple as that.
I love the reaction from the woman sitting in the front row on the far right of the screen. Shes wearing black, she gives him a standing O before hes even finished with Finnegan, awesome.
Lol, I see that too.I love the reaction from the woman sitting in the front row on the far right of the screen. Shes wearing black, she gives him a standing O before hes even finished with Finnegan, awesome.
Lol, I see that too.
Next time Andre should hit him in the junk.
I am actually quite disappointed with the responses I am seeing right now. There are right ways and wrong ways to respond to bullying.
Teaching children its ok to resort to fisticuffs is a recipe for disaster. We should instead teach our children to out-think and use cunning strategy to get out of difficult situations.
I mean, lets say your kid has a job where a fellow employee is picking on them. Do you want them to resort to fisticuffs and likely lose their job? Or instead use their brain and find a way to expose and deal with the bully in a way that allows them to keep their job?
Had a discussion with a bunch of gal friends the other day as to why men call their most prized possession "junk" but, I guess we can leave that topic for another day! lol Maybe I'll ask that question in the NSZ forum!
Just wanted to say though, in keeping with the topic of the thread. I don't think I have EVER been so proud of a Texan player!! CF got what he deserved and our AJ was the one to give it to him!! EXCELLENT IMHO!! I've been looking for this team to show some backbone, balls, whatever you want to call it, for nine years now, and I saw some of it come out today! I am PROUD they've decided to quit taking crap off the bullies in the NFL! I'm ONE HAPPY TEXAN gma!!
Hope everyone enjoys my new avatar it will be staying for awhile because I love it.Had a discussion with a bunch of gal friends the other day as to why men call their most prized possession "junk" but, I guess we can leave that topic for another day! lol Maybe I'll ask that question in the NSZ forum!
Just wanted to say though, in keeping with the topic of the thread. I don't think I have EVER been so proud of a Texan player!! CF got what he deserved and our AJ was the one to give it to him!! EXCELLENT IMHO!! I've been looking for this team to show some backbone, balls, whatever you want to call it, for nine years now, and I saw some of it come out today! I am PROUD they've decided to quit taking crap off the bullies in the NFL! I'm ONE HAPPY TEXAN gma!!
It is actually the "family Jewels," if you ask me. However, once the phrase "She has junk in the trunk" became popular to describe a female's generous glutes, the term "junk" then was adopted for any private part--male or female.
AJ definitely has large enough Jewels to handle CF, judging by the beatdown he layed down!!!
You never had to beat the **** out of a bully? Not even once?
No wink ....
Mario just launches. Finnabitch is gonna be puffy tomorrow. Couldn't happened to a more deserving _____ by a better MAN. Go Andre!
AMEN!!!
Kiwi you are right and the fact that Finnigan (a well known ass-clown) was able to to get that kind of a reaction out of such a mild mannered class act like Johnson just shows how big of a **** Finnigan really is and his actions need to be addressed by the NFL.
This is more of an indication of what kind of a player and person Finnigan is than Andre. Johnson has been one of the most professional athletes this planet has ever known. In the end though he is still a man and has a limit to what he will take.
Neither player is ejected from the game, nor suspended for fighting. They
just sit for a couple minutes in the penalty box, and it's back to the ice.
My description of the glaring double-standard still applies.
Nobody ever goes knee-jerk about fighting in hockey.