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silvrhand

All Pro
I'm sorry if everyone is picking a team I'm going with a winner..

Bill Cowher: Head Coach
OC: Kevin Gilbride
DC: Wade Phillips

Doh Kevin apparently has been interviewed a few times of late?

 

HTown2ATX

TexansMetalhead
I'm sorry if everyone is picking a team I'm going with a winner..

Bill Cowher: Head Coach
OC: Kevin Gilbride
DC: Wade Phillips

Doh Kevin apparently has been interviewed a few times of late?
Lol....can we get one of Gilbride's kids in here as OC and Rob Ryan as DC.... :evil:

Could go for a coordinator fight on the sidelines ala Buddy vs. Kevin....

:lol:
 
I'm sorry if everyone is picking a team I'm going with a winner..

Bill Cowher: Head Coach
OC: Kevin Gilbride
DC: Wade Phillips

Doh Kevin apparently has been interviewed a few times of late?
The trouble with Gilbride is his offense has no resemblance to a WCO. He uses a completely different playbook, and verbiage.

IMO no matter what HC you choose, try to bring in someone familar with the WCO so we can at least have some of our offensive strength.

I would try to go with your choices of Cowher for HC, and Wade Phillips for DC, and how about Brad Childress, he will be looking for a job come January and is a WCO guy.
 

Texecutioner

Hall of Fame
Lol....can we get one of Gilbride's kids in here as OC and Rob Ryan as DC.... :evil:

Could go for a coordinator fight on the sidelines ala Buddy vs. Kevin....

:lol:
I know his son actually and he's working for the Giants as we speak. There was a nice article about him recently saying how impressed Coughlin has been with him. I don't think that Gilbride is going anywhere though. He'll probably stay as the OC, and young Gilbride will probably stay there with him as well until he gets more experience.
 

IlliniJen

Hall of Fame
/puts on monocle

I do say, old chaps, I heartly approve of this thread and Sir Chin. May he beat a quick path to our fair city by the gulf.
 

DiehardChris

You betcha!
I'll take Cowher if he can bring Dick LeBeau with him from Pittsburgh. Otherwise - meh. He's gonna be a big money coaching bust without that awesome D.C. he had.
 

Norg

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Well we can dream while we are at it lets Get Peyton manning in here has QB

and lets pick up Larry Fitz has our #3 Wr :P
 

TexCanada

All Pro
I would definitely want Cowher over Gruden. I just don't think Gruden could stop marveling over The Forehead long enough to actually coach a team.
 

Txn_in_FL

All Pro
Cowher would be my pick. Fire and accountability is what this team needs. The more I see of Kubiak, the more I see Pardee. Just standing there clueless on the sideline.

My hope since the inception of this franchise was for Houston to win a Super Bowl before Bud dies. THat is the most perfect justice I can think of for what he has done. Every season that passes this just seems like less of a reality.
 

Brisco_County

Apples and roadmaps
One thing Cowher would bring to the table is his shrewdness in selecting his staff. His network is wide, and anyone he picks would be willing to work for him.
 

imatexan

All Pro
I would LOVE to have my favorite coach ever in Bill Cowher be our head coach...when I say LOVE I mean it would be football coach heaven for me.

It is not going to happen though so no reason to dream because those dreams are not coming true.
 

silvrhand

All Pro
Cowher would be my pick. Fire and accountability is what this team needs. The more I see of Kubiak, the more I see Pardee. Just standing there clueless on the sideline.

My hope since the inception of this franchise was for Houston to win a Super Bowl before Bud dies. THat is the most perfect justice I can think of for what he has done. Every season that passes this just seems like less of a reality.
Jack Pardee made it to the playoffs at least..
 

TheCD

Rookie
It is not going to happen though so no reason to dream because those dreams are not coming true.
Why do you say it's not a possibility. He has expressed interest in coaching our team in the past, and consistently talks about the talent level of our team. Heck, earlier this year he stated that Andre Johnson was the best player in the league...

For everyone talking about his Carolina roots, his wife did recently pass away. That might actually cause him to want a change of scenery from where he was living.

My point is that there have been statements of his interest for us in the past, but I have yet to see one thing that has stated his disinterest in our team.
 

b0ng

Bad Hombre
Somebody needs to do a few things for me before I would sign on for a Bill Cowher love fest:

1.) Why are the Houston Texans different from the other billion and a half team fan bases that think Cowher is coming there?

2.) Would Bob McNair actually pay a lot of money for a coach?

3.) I need a brief yet strong description of his mustache.
 

TheCD

Rookie
1.) Why are the Houston Texans different from the other billion and a half team fan bases that think Cowher is coming there?
Cowher has stated interest in us in the past and has said he likes the talent on our team. He's stated Andre is the best player in the NFL and he always talks up Matt. Not too much there for you, but it's more than almost any other team can boast.

2.) Would Bob McNair actually pay a lot of money for a coach?
If McNair actually understands where this team is at compared to where it should be, I don't see any reason why he wouldn't. He is a businessman after all, and despite the (unfounded) rumors that he is frugal, I think that he understands there comes a point in time in business when you have to take calculated risks. Mario was one of those risks. I think a high-priced coach with a proven record would be a logical step for him to take for the next HC.

3.) I need a brief yet strong description of his mustache.
It is very subtle and delicate, yet very masculine. You may not notice it's striking appearance at first, but once you do you will not be able to look away. His mustache says that he is a man, but he is willing to cut across what is popular and avoid the dreaded goatee. His mustache alone will make his players respect his passion for the game.
 

DiehardChris

You betcha!
Cowher (or any other coach) saying they have interest in the Texans means nothing. They will say that about any job, because it gives them negotiating leverage. There isn't an available high-profile coach in the NFL that WON'T say "I'd love to have the Texans job." It would be bad business to do otherwise.
 
Cowher (or any other coach) saying they have interest in the Texans means nothing. They will say that about any job, because it gives them negotiating leverage. There isn't an available high-profile coach in the NFL that WON'T say "I'd love to have the Texans job." It would be bad business to do otherwise.
So, you've said on your blog that you refuse to talk candidates until the end of the season (which is smart, IMO), yet, at the same time, you slam the idea of Bill Cowher.

Ok, so who do you want? Who are your choices? I think your idea of waiting until after the season to start thinking about the next choice is a wise move. But, you seem to know, already, exactly who do don't want.
 

GP

Go Texans!
Everything is borken.

The owner is broken.

His minions underneath him who push out the B.S. Hype Machine are broken.

His GM is broken.

The coaches are broken.

And even the players are broken.

Face it: Even if we COULD get Cowher, you guys seriously think that he can overcome all that junk above him and below him?

If he did, he'd be the best coach in the game who has ever coached in the entire history of the NFL. Period.

Because whoever is HC of the Texans is looking at having to completely change the culture that'll surround him once he gets here. Oh, the facility is nice. And the players are as talented as the franchise has ever experienced in its existence in the NFL. But there's a looming, dark cloud of indifference that has permeated the franchise. It sits there like chemical waste residue, and coaches and players continue to wade into it without the proper hazmat gear.

Regardless of how squeaky clean this team tries to portray itself, it's broken. It's the neat, proper suburban family who looks good on the outside but the private lives of the family members are shattered and dysfunctional.

Sorry if that's being a Doug Downer. It's just the truth.
 

GuerillaBlack

Hall of Fame
Cowher (or any other coach) saying they have interest in the Texans means nothing. They will say that about any job, because it gives them negotiating leverage. There isn't an available high-profile coach in the NFL that WON'T say "I'd love to have the Texans job." It would be bad business to do otherwise.
Name the other teams where Cowher has said he liked the talent and where it has been rumored that he wants the job. The Texans are the only team that has repeatedly come up with Cowher.
 

Ole Miss Texan

Hall of Fame
Name the other teams where Cowher has said he liked the talent and where it has been rumored that he wants the job. The Texans are the only team that has repeatedly come up with Cowher.
1. Can I have a link to where COWHER said he would like to coach here? The only thing I ever recall is from an espn.com beatwriter that said a source told him if an opportunity with the Texans or Bears ever arose that it would "excite" Cowher.

2. In regards to whenever Cowher has said (on air as an analyst) how great Andre Johnson is or how good Matt Schaub was last year... that doesn't mean he wants to coach here. If that were the case, every single analyst on TV would be in the HC discussion talks for our team. AJ is the best, Matt Schaub was great, Arian Foster is incredible, Pollard has incredible ball skills. Okay maybe that last part was exhaggerated.

3. Cowher and the HC gig here in Houston is "the only one that repeatedly comes up" is because we're the only fans desperate enough to run with a quote from a beatwriter from a year ago that has an unnamed source that BC would be "excited" about an opening with us... and another team! On top of that, other teams that have had a link to him have been shot down (I think the Bills?)... while the Texans nor Cowher have said a single thing because our organization/owner hasn't indicated for once that a HC position here might be available anytime in the near future.

4. I'm not a Cowher hater. I really really want Kubiak to succeed here. If for some reason, Mr. Kubes has to go, I would definitely be excited about the opportunity to have Cowher as HC here. I love his passion and fire... and his resume/success. I think he'd have a good ability to hire assistants under him, I think we've got a great base/foundation in place and I think we'd see success. BC would be my #1 choice as a replacement. But I'm not calling for Kubiak to get fired, I want him to succeed first and foremost.
 
1. Can I have a link to where COWHER said he would like to coach here? The only thing I ever recall is from an espn.com beatwriter that said a source told him if an opportunity with the Texans or Bears ever arose that it would "excite" Cowher.

2. In regards to whenever Cowher has said (on air as an analyst) how great Andre Johnson is or how good Matt Schaub was last year... that doesn't mean he wants to coach here. If that were the case, every single analyst on TV would be in the HC discussion talks for our team. AJ is the best, Matt Schaub was great, Arian Foster is incredible, Pollard has incredible ball skills. Okay maybe that last part was exhaggerated.

3. Cowher and the HC gig here in Houston is "the only one that repeatedly comes up" is because we're the only fans desperate enough to run with a quote from a beatwriter from a year ago that has an unnamed source that BC would be "excited" about an opening with us... and another team! On top of that, other teams that have had a link to him have been shot down (I think the Bills?)... while the Texans nor Cowher have said a single thing because our organization/owner hasn't indicated for once that a HC position here might be available anytime in the near future.

4. I'm not a Cowher hater. I really really want Kubiak to succeed here. If for some reason, Mr. Kubes has to go, I would definitely be excited about the opportunity to have Cowher as HC here. I love his passion and fire... and his resume/success. I think he'd have a good ability to hire assistants under him, I think we've got a great base/foundation in place and I think we'd see success. BC would be my #1 choice as a replacement. But I'm not calling for Kubiak to get fired, I want him to succeed first and foremost.

You have got to be kidding me. You are STILL waiting for Kubiak to "get it"?

No offense, but you seem like one of those people that are afraid of success.

We all want Kubak to succeed here. But he's not. It's been been FIVE YEARS.

FIVE.

Look at the NFL this year. There are no dominant teams, and a lot of teams that are in the middle. Guess why? Parity.

Any team in the NFL can break-out and make things happen.

No excuses.
 

DiehardChris

You betcha!
So, you've said on your blog that you refuse to talk candidates until the end of the season (which is smart, IMO), yet, at the same time, you slam the idea of Bill Cowher.

Ok, so who do you want? Who are your choices? I think your idea of waiting until after the season to start thinking about the next choice is a wise move. But, you seem to know, already, exactly who do don't want.
I'm sure I'll break eventually and do a candidate entry - don't want to get left in the dust, heh. I just don't see the point because he's not going to get fired anytime soon, and the field of candidates isn't complete. I'm going to take my time deciding who I want, because I don't want just a different coach - I want the RIGHT coach.

Right now - and it's way early - I would consider (no particular order) Coodinators: Leslie Frazier, Sean McDermott, Rob Ryan (Ryan has taken some convincing but others have kind of turned me on to him).

Experienced HC candidates - I like Gruden a lot, but like Jimmie Johnson I think he likes being a celebrity as much or more than he likes being a coach. Cowher would easily top my list if he came with LeBeau. If it's just him AND he wants personnel control, as he's rumored to want - he's on my list, but way down it. I think John Fox is a good coach. He hasn't accomplished much in Carolina, but he hasn't had much talent to work with.

In short - I have NO idea at this point because it's way too early - and I'm not at all convinced that Kubiak will be fired, unless they finish 6-10 or worse, and even then I'm not convinced.
 

TheMatrix31

Hall of Fame
Everything is borken.

The owner is broken.

His minions underneath him who push out the B.S. Hype Machine are broken.

His GM is broken.

The coaches are broken.

And even the players are broken.

Face it: Even if we COULD get Cowher, you guys seriously think that he can overcome all that junk above him and below him?

If he did, he'd be the best coach in the game who has ever coached in the entire history of the NFL. Period.

Because whoever is HC of the Texans is looking at having to completely change the culture that'll surround him once he gets here. Oh, the facility is nice. And the players are as talented as the franchise has ever experienced in its existence in the NFL. But there's a looming, dark cloud of indifference that has permeated the franchise. It sits there like chemical waste residue, and coaches and players continue to wade into it without the proper hazmat gear.

Regardless of how squeaky clean this team tries to portray itself, it's broken. It's the neat, proper suburban family who looks good on the outside but the private lives of the family members are shattered and dysfunctional.

Sorry if that's being a Doug Downer. It's just the truth.
And you don't think Cowher, who is one of the best and most respected coaches in NFL history, could change that culture?
 

CretorFrigg

Fire Rick Smith
Name the other teams where Cowher has said he liked the talent and where it has been rumored that he wants the job. The Texans are the only team that has repeatedly come up with Cowher.
Haven't there been reports about Cowher wanting to stay in Carolina and coaching the Panthers?
 

SheTexan

Hall of Fame
Come on Bill we need you baby or Tony Dungy either will do.
I don't want ANY coach that butt kisses PM to the point of nausea!! So that leaves out Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden!!

Cowher would be a steel, but, it ain't gonna happen. Personally, IF we get a new HC, which I doubt, it better be an experienced HC with some balls. Just tired of being the training grounds for wanna-be NFL coaches. PLEASE for gawds sake, give us someone who knows what the hell they are doing!!
 

SheTexan

Hall of Fame
If you're a coach, you're not going to be butt kissing anybody on the other teams.
Every coach in the league butt kisses PM. They THINK he can't be beat, they THINK he's indistructable, they THINK his poop don't stink, they are afraid of the dude, IMHO!!
 

Pantherstang84

@rolisrgti06
I don't want ANY coach that butt kisses PM to the point of nausea!! So that leaves out Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden!!

Cowher would be a steel, but, it ain't gonna happen. Personally, IF we get a new HC, which I doubt, it better be an experienced HC with some balls. Just tired of being the training grounds for wanna-be NFL coaches. PLEASE for gawds sake, give us someone who knows what the hell they are doing!!
So we will let personal feelings dictate who the next coach will be? I think that is how the Texans have gotten into the mess they are in.
 

brakos82

Yaters Gonna Yate.
I don't want ANY coach that butt kisses PM to the point of nausea!! So that leaves out Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden!!

Cowher would be a steel, but, it ain't gonna happen. Personally, IF we get a new HC, which I doubt, it better be an experienced HC with some balls. Just tired of being the training grounds for wanna-be NFL coaches. PLEASE for gawds sake, give us someone who knows what the hell they are doing!!
I see what you did there...... :ahhaha:
 

GuerillaBlack

Hall of Fame
Haven't there been reports about Cowher wanting to stay in Carolina and coaching the Panthers?
Yeah, but that was when his wife was still living. Since her death, Cowher has no ties to Carolina, has his daughters are off to college now, as well. I think going back to coaching can help Cowher.

I'd love to see Cowher as the HC, Wade as the DC, and maybe Whisenhunt as the OC if he gets fired this year.
 
Yeah, but that was when his wife was still living. Since her death, Cowher has no ties to Carolina, has his daughters are off to college now, as well. I think going back to coaching can help Cowher.

I'd love to see Cowher as the HC, Wade as the DC, and maybe Whisenhunt as the OC if he gets fired this year.
I think keeping his gig as an analyist has helped him. It has given him structure and a distraction he surely needs. Coaching is another matter altogether. It's a major grind.

As I said, this will hinge on whether he's ready to coach again. You don't get over something like what he's been through overnight.
 

Texecutioner

Hall of Fame
Yeah, but that was when his wife was still living. Since her death, Cowher has no ties to Carolina, has his daughters are off to college now, as well. I think going back to coaching can help Cowher.

I'd love to see Cowher as the HC, Wade as the DC, and maybe Whisenhunt as the OC if he gets fired this year.
You know I'm starting to really think that this whole stigma of Cowher wanting to be in Carolina so bad is more of a myth than this unwritten part of the future like everyone seems to think. The Texans are a much more attractive situation than Carolina is right now if this job were to open up. Cowher almost took a job in Buffalo last off season for crying out loud. He'll come here if he's being paid handsomely and if he feels that Mcnair will be committed to winning. The question is whether or not Bob Mcnair will put his salesman face on and take the necessary measures to lure him in here and convince Cowher that he wants him to build a dynasty for him in this city.
 

sometexansfan

Blue Bomber
If we get a good personnel guy to team up with Cowher sure, but I don't really want another coach to come in and try out hand picking his players.
 

GuerillaBlack

Hall of Fame
If we get a good personnel guy to team up with Cowher sure, but I don't really want another coach to come in and try out hand picking his players.
Really? Last year, Casey Hampton said he would sign with Houston if Cowher became the head coach. He sure could have helped us this year.
 

TheCD

Rookie
I'd love to see Cowher as the HC, Wade as the DC, and maybe Whisenhunt as the OC if he gets fired this year.
I'm a little hesitant about Wade, though I know he is a good coordinator. But with the things Wisenhunt has done for Fitzgerald to get him open and able to make plays...think what the guy could do for AJ.

One question, though: what is his offensive philosophy? I personally really enjoy WC offenses, though it really wouldn't matter if the offense works...
 

GP

Go Texans!
You know I'm starting to really think that this whole stigma of Cowher wanting to be in Carolina so bad is more of a myth than this unwritten part of the future like everyone seems to think. The Texans are a much more attractive situation than Carolina is right now if this job were to open up. Cowher almost took a job in Buffalo last off season for crying out loud. He'll come here if he's being paid handsomely and if he feels that Mcnair will be committed to winning. The question is whether or not Bob Mcnair will put his salesman face on and take the necessary measures to lure him in here and convince Cowher that he wants him to build a dynasty for him in this city.
The only advantage I can see, of how Bob McNair sticks with a head coach to the very bitter end of the head coach's tenure here, is that it would make someone like BILL COWHER feel more at ease about taking the job.

Bill is not going to want to work for an owner who might pull the plug after a bad season or two.

McNair's greatest fault might be his best asset with trying to sell a guy like Cowher on being the next head coach.

If Kubiak assembled the offense and its weapons to the point that a defensive-minded coach, such as Cowher, could come in and basically capitalize off of Kubiak's labors for the past five years...then Kubiak will have served a wonderful purpose here: Setting up the NEXTguy to bring home the title for us.

Because let's face it...that's what we're in this thing for: A championship. And hopefully, a legacy afterward.

Cowher has been there. Done that. If he tells the players to do something a certain way, they won't be second-guessing him. He has a track record. You don't win titles and make the playoffs in the NFL as many times as Cowher has just because you stumbled into it. The coach knows what he's doing.

Our current coach doesn't. Great builder of an offense. Bad head coach.
 
The only advantage I can see, of how Bob McNair sticks with a head coach to the very bitter end of the head coach's tenure here, is that it would make someone like BILL COWHER feel more at ease about taking the job.

Bill is not going to want to work for an owner who might pull the plug after a bad season or two.

McNair's greatest fault might be his best asset with trying to sell a guy like Cowher on being the next head coach.

If Kubiak assembled the offense and its weapons to the point that a defensive-minded coach, such as Cowher, could come in and basically capitalize off of Kubiak's labors for the past five years...then Kubiak will have served a wonderful purpose here: Setting up the NEXTguy to bring home the title for us.

Because let's face it...that's what we're in this thing for: A championship. And hopefully, a legacy afterward.

Cowher has been there. Done that. If he tells the players to do something a certain way, they won't be second-guessing him. He has a track record. You don't win titles and make the playoffs in the NFL as many times as Cowher has just because you stumbled into it. The coach knows what he's doing.

Our current coach doesn't. Great builder of an offense. Bad head coach.

Amen. That's what I've been saying.

We are going to become a team like the Bucs: Coach B wins a Super Bowl with Coach A's players.

After we win it all, we will spend YEARS discussing how Coach B isn't that great of a coach because he won with Kubiak's players.

Either way, I'll take it.
 

Texecutioner

Hall of Fame
Amen. That's what I've been saying.

We are going to become a team like the Bucs: Coach B wins a Super Bowl with Coach A's players.

After we win it all, we will spend YEARS discussing how Coach B isn't that great of a coach because he won with Kubiak's players.

You'd never hear me say that. This wouldn't be some situation like what happened with the Bucs when Gruden came in there. I'd never credit Kubiak if another HC came in here and won a SB for the simple fact that Kubes never could even make the post season in 5 seasons. Kubiak may have built a nice offense up, but hell this offense wasn't even good until his 3rd season and until this year the Texans have had all sorts of RZ problems in this offense. We've never had a good defense under Kubiak either. If another HC came in here and immediately does a lot, I'm not going to credit a guy that sat around here for 5 years trying to build something that he never went anywhere with. He just needs to go. This team needs a new HC and a new GM.
 
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