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Troy Nolan just became our starting FS

I knew it was a mistake keeping that guy off the field. Dude just has a good knack for finding the ball.
 
How was this guy not on the field from Day One?

I'm a Kubiak fan, but this just seemed like a no-brainer to me and a lot of other people.

Better late than never I suppose.
 
Was he in there as the FS or an extra DB? I know I saw Barber in there some as well. Hopefully this performance sets him up to be the guy for the rest of the season. Eugene shouldn't be a factor at all.
 
I think people should temper the excitement. I have wanted him on the field too, but he's still essenttially a rookie.

I think hell be a beast but I also expect some mistakes a long the way.
 
I think people should temper the excitement. I have wanted him on the field too, but he's still essenttially a rookie.

I think hell be a beast but I also expect some mistakes a long the way.

If his mistakes include double INTs, then Im all for letting him make mistakes :)
 
I think people should temper the excitement. I have wanted him on the field too, but he's still essenttially a rookie.

I think hell be a beast but I also expect some mistakes a long the way.

Better to endure mistakes from a guy with upside than watching mistakes from Wilson with no upside.
 
Was he in there as the FS or an extra DB? I know I saw Barber in there some as well. Hopefully this performance sets him up to be the guy for the rest of the season. Eugene shouldn't be a factor at all.

They split time.
 
Troy Nolan appears to be that guy with "it" (in this case "it" refers to that uncanny ability to be standing right where the ball decides to bounce) that we've been needing to pair with Pollard.

Pollard is of course another guy with "it" (in his case "it" is the uncanny ability to knock the piss out of somebody at just the right moment).

I'm pretty certain we've got our safeties. Yes, excitement should be tempered but consider this. They're only going to get better. Tomorrow morning Brian Cushing is going to report to work, and we're 3-1, and we apparently just found our ball hawk.

and AJ got some rest...

and Derrick Ward appears to be a nice fit in this offense

and Slaton seems to be finally settling down and looking like his old self.

This is a good way to end Cushing's suspension. We need to be thinking 4-1 now. It's time to go beat the snot out of baby jugghead.
 
Making the most out of an opportunity like that is how a 7th rounder earns a starting job.
 
Troy Nolan appears to be that guy with "it" (in this case "it" refers to that uncanny ability to be standing right where the ball decides to bounce) that we've been needing to pair with Pollard.

Pollard is of course another guy with "it" (in his case "it" is the uncanny ability to knock the piss out of somebody at just the right moment).

I'm pretty certain we've got our safeties. Yes, excitement should be tempered but consider this. They're only going to get better. Tomorrow morning Brian Cushing is going to report to work, and we're 3-1, and we apparently just found our ball hawk.

and AJ got some rest...

and Derrick Ward appears to be a nice fit in this offense

and Slaton seems to be finally settling down and looking like his old self.

This is a good way to end Cushing's suspension. We need to be thinking 4-1 now. It's time to go beat the snot out of baby jugghead.

I agree with everything you said, this is almost a best case scenero going into the Giants game, not that I'm looking for anyone to get hurt but da bears are a physical team, so we'll see how they come out of that one.
 
I don't know how many tipped passes we create (or the opponents receivers create) but it's really big to have someone who can pick those off. Nolan will get burned a few times, but hell Eugene Wilson got burned all the time. I'd rather get burned with a chance for a pick than get burned with no chance of a turnover
 
If he was in there last week maybe he catches that pass Eugene dropped and its a whole new ballgame, oh well, I'll take 3-1 and move on.
 
Dude, are you kidding me? Eugene is better than Nolan. Those two INT's were a by product of playing the Raiders. Troy has no field awareness. I look for Eugene to get the nod against the Giants!










Ok, I kid...
 
If he was in there last week maybe he catches that pass Eugene dropped and its a whole new ballgame, oh well, I'll take 3-1 and move on.

Yeah maybe...Eugene drops a INT every game, or at least every other game it seems.

If there is one thing Nolan has proved is that he can catch those tipped passes and that can make a HUGE difference. I sure hope Nolan gets the start nest week.
 
I think people should temper the excitement. I have wanted him on the field too, but he's still essenttially a rookie.

I think hell be a beast but I also expect some mistakes a long the way.

rep your way....edit, someone get him for me..
 
I was going to start a thread on Nolan, Obviously I was a little late, but Damn! Troy nolan looked good today I was happy to see him on the field and he performed exactly like I thought he would. He seemed to be at the right spot at the right time, I am a Nolan supporter.
 
I don't think you should keep Nolan out just because of the experience issue and the fear of getting burned. I can't imagine that in coverage he is any worse than Wilson. Let him get out there and learn like Kareem Jackson is doing.

BTW, KJ looked very good out there today. The Raider receivers only had 4 catches today.
 
I don't think you should keep Nolan out just because of the experience issue and the fear of getting burned. I can't imagine that in coverage he is any worse than Wilson. Let him get out there and learn like Kareem Jackson is doing.

BTW, KJ looked very good out there today. The Raider receivers only had 4 catches today.

Yea he did, when they would pan to him you could see he was covering his man pretty good!
 
It's interesting how Kubiak gets criticized for starting a veteran FS with a 7th rounder who's shown flashes on the bench.

At the same time, he's criticized for starting a 1st round pick, with no veteran presence at the position.

It makes sense to me, to have veteran safeties to back up inexperienced corners.


And yes, I was wrong to believe Eugene Wilson would make it through September before getting injured.
 
, KJ looked very good out there today. The Raider receivers only had 4 catches today.

KJ had a nice game, but the DB's were in zone the entire game, and the
tightend had a huge day. McFadden was killing the defense with screens.

The numbers may look nice, but that's because everything else was wide
open. Hopefully, having Cushing back there will allow this defense to actually
start ATTACKING the offense.
 
What was your assessment? Not calling you out, I'm honestly curious. Were you down on the draft pick or down on his play?

I thought his interceptions (and subsequent returns) in college were a result of being more lucky than good. I still hold my doubts (because I was not able to see the game, and therefore am relying on peoples' opinions), but 2 picks, albeit off tips, is nothing to sneeze at at the NFL level.
 
Dude, are you kidding me? Eugene is better than Nolan. Those two INT's were a by product of playing the Raiders. Troy has no field awareness. I look for Eugene to get the nod against the Giants!










Ok, I kid...



I was about to give the most epic :wadepalm: of all, but didn't catch the jk part till after i quoted you.
 
The football loves Troy Nolan....

I honestly don't know how he played his position and assignments (haven't rewatched), but much like Cushing's 4 interceptions last year, I seem to have found that the Football Gods seem to prefer certain players.

I remember watching his college draft film a year and some time ago, and I kept noticing all the pick 6's he had in college, it really was a ridiciculous numbers.

Until I see something different this guy looks like a playmaker. Let him get out there for a whole game, cause neither Wilson or Barber are doing much.
 
I just feel Nolan and Barber should continue to split time because Wilson has seen his better days for sure. Time for some new blood.
 
:wadepalm: for a repeat thread with nearly the exact same title as a thread right next to this.
 
Prior to the game, I said that Barber and Nolan were going to split time and as soon as Nolan hit the field, the job was his.

Damn but we're going to have a young secondary.
 
Perhaps you folks need to think like a coach might. You have a 1st round rookie playing at one of the most critical levels of the defense. Would you in anyway put a 7th round rookie into the next level of the defense behind him, when you had a veteran and a 3rd year guy available? Now, after a training camp, preseason and regular season experience he gets to get his feet wet after the other rook has some time on the pond. I STILL wouldn't chuck him out there full time. Ol Pay-me-A-TON and Reggie would be licking their collective lips to see that happen. Get the lad some game time, more classroom and practice and MAYBE after about game 9-10 (remember, he is a 7th round pick and will need TRAINING), then see if he can hold up. To put that much inexperience into one defense would be inviting disaster. And yes, I know Wilson has been less than stellar and Barber only a bit better, but they will at least recognize what is going on. Now, having said all of that, Nolan looks VERY promising and may be just we have been looking for at FS, just not yet full time.
 
Is this even a discussion.....kubiak is nuts not to play this kid......makes no sense at all.....

Like i said in the other thread...he's a ballhawk...plain and simple....and u cant teach that.......you either are one or you are not one...period..........
 
Perhaps you folks need to think like a coach might. You have a 1st round rookie playing at one of the most critical levels of the defense. Would you in anyway put a 7th round rookie into the next level of the defense behind him, when you had a veteran and a 3rd year guy available? Now, after a training camp, preseason and regular season experience he gets to get his feet wet after the other rook has some time on the pond. I STILL wouldn't chuck him out there full time. Ol Pay-me-A-TON and Reggie would be licking their collective lips to see that happen. Get the lad some game time, more classroom and practice and MAYBE after about game 9-10 (remember, he is a 7th round pick and will need TRAINING), then see if he can hold up. To put that much inexperience into one defense would be inviting disaster. And yes, I know Wilson has been less than stellar and Barber only a bit better, but they will at least recognize what is going on. Now, having said all of that, Nolan looks VERY promising and may be just we have been looking for at FS, just not yet full time.

Ed Nolan is a 2yr player he was on IR last year
 
Was Pollard injured at the end of the game? Whats this Im hearing?

The second to last defensive play he came off the field holding his hand. Nothing official as to what the injury is, but I don't think it will keep him out for the next game.
 
Ed Nolan is a 2yr player he was on IR last year

OK thanks for the update David, just knew it was his first year playing. It all still holds pretty much true though, but I would pull the full time marker in to say after the bye since he has the added camp and learning time. The idea of that much inexperience in our secondary at one time is more than a little scary with Payton and the other top level QBs.
 
My boy Troy!!!!!!!!!!! I've been waiting for him to get in regular season. Who makes picks? 33. Who doesn't? 26.
 
I'm pretty sure Nolan is considered a rookie. Blake Griffin will be a rookie this year in the NBA...
 
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