Adam_Schefter Best I can tell, there are four potential landing spots for former Jets RB Thomas Jones: Cleveland, Seattle, San Diego and Houston.
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Houston a possible landing spot for Thomas Jones?
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WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
He said the same about LT. We are going to be one of the "hot spots" for the veteran RB's this offseason.
HouSportsWriter
SIAB
jones > tomlison
end of story =]
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WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
Agreed.
HouSportsWriter
SIAB
real good artical from espn about him joining the texans
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/9778/should-texans-consider-jones
post what you think about this
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/9778/should-texans-consider-jones
post what you think about this
texanfan2002114
Veteran
Thomas Jones has kindof put a hole in the theroy of the 30 year old running back declining. 2009 - 1402 yards 14 td's and turned 31 before the season started. 2008 - 1312 yards 13 td's and turning 30 before that season.
I would like to see Jones here before LT. Just my
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I would like to see Jones here before LT. Just my
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WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
I agree with the article. We won't be able to fill all of our needs with impact players because we have 4 or 5 immediate needs and just 3 picks in the first 3 rounds. If we add Jones then we can pass on Ryan Mathews in the draft, trim down our need list, and focus more on the secondary and the lines. I, for one, would love to add him.
I wouldn't like passing on Mathews, but you can't get everyone you want. We need to do what's best for the team and I think adding Jones and pairing him with Slaton & Foster will be good for the offense. Then we can focus on other needs in the draft.
TexansFanatic
Extremist
Please make it stop.
HouSportsWriter
SIAB
If we made it stop what would be the point of this site? It's like trying to tell me to type correctly all the time....
texanfan2002114
Veteran
Thats funny as hell!!
False Start
On # 69
As I said in the thread in the NFL forum, I would rather it be him than LT.
TexansFanatic
Extremist
You're absolutely right. I'm just really looking forward to the day the Texans have their own marquee running back and not a stop-gap retread or a change-of-pace/third down back masquerading as a franchise running back.
I just noticed your last two posts in this thread were legible. Good for you SIaB! Get yourself a little punctuation and we might have something here....
theanswer000
Noob
Adding Thomas Jones or Ladainian Tomlinson would be a great move on the Texans part right now. We would not have to worry about a running back till later in the draft. Possibly getting Joquie Bell or another back.
FirstTexansFan
The Unknown Fan
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
What would yall think if The Texans made moves to acquire Thomas Jones and Darren Sproles. I know that would be a big offseason move that isn't typical, and that the Texans were giving up on Slaton and his injury.
Rep. LOL!
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
And if we could pry Marshawn Lynch from the Bills, we would fill our RB need at the same time as alleviating our grieving over losing Dunta.
Nawzer
Alienz
Man I said to myself after the Ahman Green experience that I would never go back to a 30 year old running back again, but Thomas Jones is tempting...I'll leave it up to Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak to decide. I would love to see him in Texans uni but I would also love it if we pass on him.
When trying to breakdown whether the Texans will or will not sign this player is understanding what the Texans have versus what they need. The need for the Texans is lead back who handle 15 or so carries a game i.e 250 carries a year. Slaton, Moats, and Foster can handle being pieces of a running game. Our guys need the heavy lifter, not the fill-in guys.
GP
Go Texans!
You know what?
I'll buy Thomas Jones as a way to strengthen the RB position.
He gouged us pretty good, on two huge runs IIRC. He has burst. Point A to Point B runner. His yards and TDs last season is respectable.
And best of all, it removes the pressure to find another RB early in the draft.
This opens us up to use rounds 1 and 2 for some combination out of the following needs: DB, DT, or OL.
Perhaps we could platoon Foster, Slaton, and Jones?
I think it could work.
I'll buy Thomas Jones as a way to strengthen the RB position.
He gouged us pretty good, on two huge runs IIRC. He has burst. Point A to Point B runner. His yards and TDs last season is respectable.
And best of all, it removes the pressure to find another RB early in the draft.
This opens us up to use rounds 1 and 2 for some combination out of the following needs: DB, DT, or OL.
Perhaps we could platoon Foster, Slaton, and Jones?
I think it could work.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
The only question I have is how much of that production over the last couple of seasons was Thomas Jones and how much of it was the best offensive line in the league?
Thomas Jones is losing alot of help upfront if he comes here.
Thomas Jones is losing alot of help upfront if he comes here.
m5kwatts
Veteran
Ding ding ding we have a winner
If we can get those 5 o-lineman to come here WITH Jones I'm all for it
Upgrading our run game should start with the LG, C & RG, not RB
And if we could pry Marshawn Lynch from the Bills, we would fill our RB need at the same time as alleviating our grieving over losing Dunta.
I would either sign C.Taylor in FA or Trade a 2010 3rd and 6th for Lynch. I would also offer the Bills a 2011 3rd foe Schobel.
Then you could have a 3rd down DL that looks like this
Barwin M.Williams A.Smith A.Schobel
That's a DL any offense would fear on 3rd and long.
Lynch could fill the role of RB1 and you could draft a RB like L.Coker of L.Miller later in the draft.
If Slaton makes it back that's a bonus.
The OL should be filled with 2 picks in rds 2/4. IMHO
Fixing the offense is job number 1 IMO. That and adding a vet presence at CB this offseason. IMHO
GP
Go Texans!
I think a really good Center could do the trick.
We're not going to solidify the offensive line in one year.
The weakest link of our line is the Center. I think our other linemen had their hands full due to picking up his slack. When I watched games last season, I was never saying (out loud to myself) "WOW! Look at how he just dominated his man right there on that run."
If we moved Duane Brown over to the right side, where IIRC it's his natural position, and then picked up a true lock-down, man-handling Left Tackle, and then went Center or Defensive Back in round 2, I think it'd work. I think Duane Brown is not comfortable at Left Tackle. He just looks like a slightly better version of Salaam to me.
I think if we remove the burden of Duane having to be "The Guy" who protects Schaub's blindside, and get him out there on the right side, it would do wonders.
If we don't take a free agent RB, and my thought is that Thomas Jones is the best out of the bunch for what would fit best (for now), then we have to find something in the draft that will 100% contribute in 2010. I like that Jones is a known commodity. A veteran.
We don't have the offensive line of the Jets. But they also don't have the QB and WR set that we have, either. So the argument can be made by Jets fans that they'd love to have a better QB and Receiving squad than the group they've got right now. Every team has its own unique needs and/or weak spots.
I don't see how we can significantly upgrade our team without doing at least two moves in free agency, and Thomas Jones can be had without giving up draft picks because he's going to be cut outright. That's a win-win, IMO.
It's going to take 2 moves in FA and alot of luck with injuries for the Texans to make the playoffs next year. Along with a 2006 type draft. IMHO
This can and should happen but Smithiak aren't off to a good start. (Kubes missing the combine0
Will McNair spend the $ to get the 2 pieces that are needed. In addition to re-signing OD and Ryans.
Letting Robinson go allows McNair the $ to add the pieces.
Will he improve the team or take the profit?
That's the big ? If history gsays anything I believe we know what the answer will be.
I hope I'm wrong
This can and should happen but Smithiak aren't off to a good start. (Kubes missing the combine0
Will McNair spend the $ to get the 2 pieces that are needed. In addition to re-signing OD and Ryans.
Letting Robinson go allows McNair the $ to add the pieces.
Will he improve the team or take the profit?
That's the big ? If history gsays anything I believe we know what the answer will be.
I hope I'm wrong
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
Ahman Green was also known as a physical freak who kept himself in great shape.
Unlike Green, Jones doesn't have a long history of serious leg injuries.
I think they'd kick the tires, but I don't see them spending fat money on Jones because of being so abused in the Green deal.
Spot On
Stay away from T.Jones unless the Texans can get him on a deal that they want.
I've heard Jim Brown, Emmitt Smith and Walter Payton could be landing spots for the Texans.
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barrett
All Pro
At least LG and C. I'm expecting Caldwell to be an improvement at the position in his second year. Brisiel is gonna be pup'd at best in my opinion and maybe IR'd. Only a few weeks ago he was on 610 and he was still in a boot and still on crutches I believe. But I think you're dead right that the interior lines injuries was a bigger fall off than anything #20 did or didn't do.
Now, having said that, Thomas Jones as a second back who has seen his production improve over the last 4 years would be a reasonable addition if it was at a reasonable price. But that would be the case regardless of the OLine situation. The OLine situation is a bigger issue than RB in my mind.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Do you have other information leading you to that conclusion? I'm not sure how a boot in February = not being ready in September.
For the guys who mentioned Jones' production being down to o-line and not his own ability, couldn't agree more.
I'd go a step further and say Jones was pretty unimpressive for the most part, and that behind a line that good, 1400 yards was pretty poor considering how many carries he got.
The best thing about Jones is his ability to keep on carrying the ball, and durability is a big part of a running backs game. But unless the Texans offensive line improves drastically he's going to have a couple of big runs, and a lot of doing nothing. Stay well clear. I'd rather use the money of Steve Neal if I was you guys.
I'd go a step further and say Jones was pretty unimpressive for the most part, and that behind a line that good, 1400 yards was pretty poor considering how many carries he got.
The best thing about Jones is his ability to keep on carrying the ball, and durability is a big part of a running backs game. But unless the Texans offensive line improves drastically he's going to have a couple of big runs, and a lot of doing nothing. Stay well clear. I'd rather use the money of Steve Neal if I was you guys.
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
Out of all the old vets being throw around...besides Chester Taylor,who would be #1, I like Jones the best. (Please forgive me LT). The guy has split carries much of his career. His last couple of years he has still runs strong and has shown he can carry a load. He is a guy who, like Cushing, is first in, last out and who works his ass off. He also has some attitude. This in no way makes me think they shouldn't still look RB in the draft but if you want to solidify the position with a vet, I like Jones.
As for the O-line argument. Chicago's O-line wasn't doing too great when he was there yet he was still their top dog and running well, despite Cedric being drafted and not doing a thing behind the same line.
I just think you need a guy like this. I mean what is the goal?12-15 carries and a guy to trust on the goalline. Heck LT scored TDs last year. So does Jones. If you think the texans need Slaton and another young stud then any of these guys aren't going to float your boat. It depends on what your mindset is and what direction you like.
As for the O-line argument. Chicago's O-line wasn't doing too great when he was there yet he was still their top dog and running well, despite Cedric being drafted and not doing a thing behind the same line.
I just think you need a guy like this. I mean what is the goal?12-15 carries and a guy to trust on the goalline. Heck LT scored TDs last year. So does Jones. If you think the texans need Slaton and another young stud then any of these guys aren't going to float your boat. It depends on what your mindset is and what direction you like.
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And if we could pry Marshawn Lynch from the Bills, we would fill our RB need at the same time as alleviating our grieving over losing Dunta.
I don't normally care about character issues, but this guy is a tool, and an *****. Zero chance we would go after him, and I would be mad if we did.
Thomas Jones has kindof put a hole in the theroy of the 30 year old running back declining. 2009 - 1402 yards 14 td's and turned 31 before the season started. 2008 - 1312 yards 13 td's and turning 30 before that season.
I would like to see Jones here before LT. Just my
Thomas Jones has little wear and tear on him, since he didn't get carries early in his career and split time a few years. He is a young 30, IMO.
HouSportsWriter
SIAB
let the try outs begin!
Ole Miss Texan
Hall of Fame
Not no but hell no.... My cut off on RB's is by age 50. These cats are just too old.
Not no but hell no.... My cut off on RB's is by age 50. These cats are just too old.
Not to mention Payton is dead.
BullNation4Life
All Pro
It will be interesting to see what kind of push the Browns make for Jones.
He was widely rummored to be on Manginis wish list last year when the Browns were doing so many trades with the Jets. The Jets held out and kept Jones.
I believe the rumors about Mangini wanting Jones. I wonder if Mangini has enough stroke to convince Holmgren that he would be a good fit.
Much like some of you, I believe there are still a couple good years left and picking up Jones frees up a draft pick. I like the idea and think he is a good fit for the Texans and Browns.
He was widely rummored to be on Manginis wish list last year when the Browns were doing so many trades with the Jets. The Jets held out and kept Jones.
I believe the rumors about Mangini wanting Jones. I wonder if Mangini has enough stroke to convince Holmgren that he would be a good fit.
Much like some of you, I believe there are still a couple good years left and picking up Jones frees up a draft pick. I like the idea and think he is a good fit for the Texans and Browns.
ESPN: Bo Jackson is rumored to be making a come back to the NFL. The Houston Texans are the most likely team to be interested....
ESPN: Rick Smith of the Houston Texans hasreportedly contacted Earl Campbell about a try out........
ESPN: The Houston Texans have been watching the Jim Brown situation closely, just in case he would ever consider coming back to the NFL......
Houston should be the last place linked to all these rumors about 30+ RB's. We've learned our lesson, at least I hope we have.
ESPN: Rick Smith of the Houston Texans hasreportedly contacted Earl Campbell about a try out........
ESPN: The Houston Texans have been watching the Jim Brown situation closely, just in case he would ever consider coming back to the NFL......
Houston should be the last place linked to all these rumors about 30+ RB's. We've learned our lesson, at least I hope we have.
BullNation4Life
All Pro
Ok guys and gals, let's look at this at a different angle....
Bringing in Thomas Jones would be NOTHING like Ahman Green and I can tell you why....
1: Thomas Jones, although 31 yrs old, does not have the same wear and tear Green did for the fact Thomas Jones was a backup or a partial player for many years. He has far less carries than most 30+ backs thus will last a little longer.
2. The Texans would not be bringing him in to be "tha man" If you remember, Sherman was a big reason Green came to Houston. At that time, the Texans were running Green Bay's power blocking scheme. Green had major knee surgery 2 yrs prior to being a Texans. Jones, to my knowledge, has not had any major injuries in his career.
3. Jones is a work horse. This coal miner's son knows what it takes to stay healthy and fit. He is a gym rat. He still has break away speed, see Texans vs Jets last year as reference, and is a beast in the red zone. Bringing him in with Slaton and Foster could be a really good experience for the young backs. You still can draft a back in the later rounds, I know they are eyeing that kid from the Div.II school, and you have veteran experience, something this Texans team lacks severely.
Bringing in Thomas Jones would be NOTHING like Ahman Green and I can tell you why....
1: Thomas Jones, although 31 yrs old, does not have the same wear and tear Green did for the fact Thomas Jones was a backup or a partial player for many years. He has far less carries than most 30+ backs thus will last a little longer.
2. The Texans would not be bringing him in to be "tha man" If you remember, Sherman was a big reason Green came to Houston. At that time, the Texans were running Green Bay's power blocking scheme. Green had major knee surgery 2 yrs prior to being a Texans. Jones, to my knowledge, has not had any major injuries in his career.
3. Jones is a work horse. This coal miner's son knows what it takes to stay healthy and fit. He is a gym rat. He still has break away speed, see Texans vs Jets last year as reference, and is a beast in the red zone. Bringing him in with Slaton and Foster could be a really good experience for the young backs. You still can draft a back in the later rounds, I know they are eyeing that kid from the Div.II school, and you have veteran experience, something this Texans team lacks severely.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Decent post, man, I agree for the most part. As most know by now, I'm not a huge fan of bringing in older players. But, I think I'd make an exception for Jones. However, I'm still not going to want to shell out big money for a guy that'll be 32 come opening day.
Meh, it's probably a moot point anyway. He was unwilling to take a pay cut to stay with the Jets, so he'll likely be looking for good money. Are we willing to take a chance and sign him to a lucrative deal? I don't think so