A reminder of why Kris Brown deserves our gratitude

[Brisco_County]

It can be validly argued that we are not in the playoffs because of Kris Brown.

The dumbfounding reality that good kickers can instantly go bad emerges every year in the NFL. This year, the shanking-plague spread more rapidly through the league than staphylococcus in a Cleveland locker room, but no kicker contracted a more acute infection than Brown.

But because Brown's sudden unreliability was so severe, it caused a lot of fans to react as if the guy was the Ryan Leaf of field goal kickers. People who should've known better were posting things like, "A loser is a loser, run him out of town!" Short memories seem to also be contagious.

It is true that Brown should probably hang up the cleats this year, but here's an article that will help remind you of what the guy has done for this team, and how important he is in Texans history:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/5959242.html

After Kris is gone, this is the kind of player I'm going to remember:

"In a 22-19 victory against the Dolphins last Oct. 7, Brown showed the Texans just how much football player lurks inside that No. 3 jersey. Brown became the third kicker in NFL history to make three field goals of 50 yards or longer in the same game, and that wasn’t the half of it. He injured the heel of his left foot during the Texans’ first kickoff and needed a pain-killing injection at halftime... After all that, Brown made a 57-yarder as time expired."

 

[ObsiWan]

Kris just needs to earn his job back next year.
Come into camp, against legit competition, and show the team and fans that he can regain the form and consistency he had when he was kicking 50+ yarders with regularity. If he gets his swagger back he stays. If he doesn't, "so long and thanks for all the kicks".
...well, at least all the game winners.

 

[Corrosion]

Its a what have you done for me lately league - Brown was pathetic this season. If Brown isnt held accountable how can Kubiak retain the respect of the team ... They absolutely must bring in some serious competition for the kicker spot - If Brown wins the job thats fine but they cant go into camp without a real fight for the roster spot.

 

[TimeKiller]

I don't get why some people have such a hangup about calling a duck a duck. KB kicks like a duck, shits like a duck and when he tries to blame himself like Kubiak does all I hear is "Quack Quack QUUuuaaaack!!!"

Did Kris Brown put on an atrocious display of kicking this past season?
Quack
Did he miss every single field goal in every single pressure situation?
Quack
Did these misses likely keep the Texans from a better record than 9-7?
Quack
Would 1 or 3 more win(s) have us in the playoffs?
Quack
So it's safe to assume KB played a large role in blocking the team from a post season berth?
Quack but here's the deal. On one hand you see the team and it's failures and say, "Oh it's not just KB's fault, the team shouldn't put him in that position." On the other hand you have to look at game deciding kicks in a vaccuum. Nothing else matters when they start lining up for the kick, all that matters is that the guy who is paid solely and exclusively on his ability to make kicks does his job. Kickers are over praised/over criticized just like QBs are because their job is more decisive than the rest of the team but he missed all the big kicks. All of them. There isn't middle ground here and if there was KB couldn't kick a ball through it.

Oh and he missed an extra point. QUACK. That's a guy who is really, really, I mean truly struggling with his confidence. People on quack don't have the jitters that bad. But that's the guy you just want to thank because of all the kicks he made when they were not making any playoff noise?

 

[Thorn]

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but if I had the chance to get rid of someone that's about to cost me my job, that sucker is going bye-bye. And I don't care what the history is.

 

[Imatexanfan]

The thing is we lost not only one but two games that could have been wins for us because of him. Now I now what he means to the organization and all but when the **** hits the fan bud you gotta go...

 

[HuttoKarl]

It can be validly argued that we are not in the playoffs because of Kris Brown.

The dumbfounding reality that good kickers can instantly go bad emerges every year in the NFL. This year, the shanking-plague spread more rapidly through the league than staphylococcus in a Cleveland locker room, but no kicker contracted a more acute infection than Brown.

But because Brown's sudden unreliability was so severe, it caused a lot of fans to react as if the guy was the Ryan Leaf of field goal kickers. People who should've known better were posting things like, "A loser is a loser, run him out of town!" Short memories seem to also be contagious.

It is true that Brown should probably hang up the cleats this year, but here's an article that will help remind you of what the guy has done for this team, and how important he is in Texans history:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/5959242.html

After Kris is gone, this is the kind of player I'm going to remember:

"In a 22-19 victory against the Dolphins last Oct. 7, Brown showed the Texans just how much football player lurks inside that No. 3 jersey. Brown became the third kicker in NFL history to make three field goals of 50 yards or longer in the same game, and that wasn’t the half of it. He injured the heel of his left foot during the Texans’ first kickoff and needed a pain-killing injection at halftime... After all that, Brown made a 57-yarder as time expired."

One great game doesn't excuse a completely crappy season. The truth about Kris Brown is that he's mixed about three nice seasons into a totally mediocre career. Unfortunately, we thought it was wise to lock him up for multiple years right before he got the yips. We're probably stuck with him now.

 

[BigTimeTexanFan]

In the past he's been good. After last year, even if he wins his job back, I will be nervous everytime he lines up to kick. I might have to follow Kubiak and turn my back and not watch.

 

[HoustonFrog]

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but if I had the chance to get rid of someone that's about to cost me my job, that sucker is going bye-bye. And I don't care what the history is.

I agree and I'm not sure why people are attached to Kris Brown. He wasn't that good when he got here. He hasn't been that great overall. He had maybe 2-3 good years and they were still alright.

Kickers are a dime a dozen if you can get one with some confidence. There are truly only a few studs. Look at the Cowboys. They cut a Pro-Bowler and picked up another cut guy who has been perfect, I believe, so far, in a playoff run. Folk was costing them games or chances to win games. I never realized how interchangeable they were until the Cowboys in the 90s. They had a stud kicking coach, Steve Hoffman..now with the Chiefs. It seemed like they brought in a cheap FA every couple of years, coached him up, and he would be a stud. When they got the yips...bye, bye.

Here is what Hoffman did:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/coach/steve_hoffman/

During his tenure in Dallas, Hoffman successfully tutored a number of rookie or first-year specialists, including P John Jett (’93), K Chris Boniol (’94), K Richie Cunningham (’97) and P Toby Gowin (’97). In total, Hoffman’s specialists established 15 separate club records during his tenure in Dallas.

Again, this is just one example of one guy and one team. Sorry for some of you that I used the Cowboys. Just comes to mind. Teams routinely bring in new guys to compete and to make themselves better. This Kris Brown love just reeks of a misplaced loyalty they have. It really makes no sense. It isn't like he is Adam Vinatieri. And even he went to another team.

 

[Texan4Ever]

The reason Kris Brown was lambasted is because THIS was OUR year to make it to the playoffs and there were so many games that came down to his ability to make kicks that he didn't make, he didn't step up his A-game like Matt Schaub, Andre Johnson, etc did.

Yes, Kris Brown has helped us win our first game against the Colts but when we needed him to step up...he didn't!

 

[eriadoc]

But because Brown's sudden unreliability was so severe ....

In the past he's been good.

Decent NFL kickers consistently kick in the low-to-mid 80s percentile. Good NFL kickers consistently kick in the mid-to-high 80s percentile. Kickers will have a season here or there that is an outlier, either in the 90s or in the 70s, maybe even low 70s. Here's a reminder of Kris Brown in seasons past:

2002: 70.8%
2003: 81.8%
2004: 70.8%
2005: 76.5%
2006: 76.0%
2007: 86.2%
2008: 87.9%
2009: 65.6%

This year was not an aberration; the last two years were. Kris Brown has a career average of 77.3%, which is bottom 25% of NFL kickers, and six of the past nine seasons, he hasn't even achieved that lowly percentage.

 

[HuttoKarl]

Decent NFL kickers consistently kick in the low-to-mid 80s percentile. Good NFL kickers consistently kick in the mid-to-high 80s percentile. Kickers will have a season here or there that is an outlier, either in the 90s or in the 70s, maybe even low 70s. Here's a reminder of Kris Brown in seasons past:

2002: 70.8%
2003: 81.8%
2004: 70.8%
2005: 76.5%
2006: 76.0%
2007: 86.2%
2008: 87.9%
2009: 65.6%

This year was not an aberration; the last two years were. Kris Brown has a career average of 77.3%, which is bottom 25% of NFL kickers, and six of the past nine seasons, he hasn't even achieved that lowly percentage.

Exactly...we shoulda drafted Mason Crosby when we had the chance.

 

[GuerillaBlack]

It can be validly argued that we are not in the playoffs because of Kris Brown.

The dumbfounding reality that good kickers can instantly go bad emerges every year in the NFL. This year, the shanking-plague spread more rapidly through the league than staphylococcus in a Cleveland locker room, but no kicker contracted a more acute infection than Brown.

But because Brown's sudden unreliability was so severe, it caused a lot of fans to react as if the guy was the Ryan Leaf of field goal kickers. People who should've known better were posting things like, "A loser is a loser, run him out of town!" Short memories seem to also be contagious.

It is true that Brown should probably hang up the cleats this year, but here's an article that will help remind you of what the guy has done for this team, and how important he is in Texans history:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/5959242.html

After Kris is gone, this is the kind of player I'm going to remember:

"In a 22-19 victory against the Dolphins last Oct. 7, Brown showed the Texans just how much football player lurks inside that No. 3 jersey. Brown became the third kicker in NFL history to make three field goals of 50 yards or longer in the same game, and that wasn’t the half of it. He injured the heel of his left foot during the Texans’ first kickoff and needed a pain-killing injection at halftime... After all that, Brown made a 57-yarder as time expired."

No sir.

Brown did this with the Steelers. Was fine when the team was not contending for anything, but when the pressure is on, he sucks. That's why Bill Cowher kicked him out. I really can't believe Brown is still on the roster. Most teams kick their kickers out after what he did. Look at Sean Payton and (gasp) Wade Philips. Good coaches. Kubiak was too loyal to go find a new kicker this season...and it cost us.

 

[disaacks3]

Its a what have you done for me lately league - Brown was pathetic this season. If Brown isnt held accountable how can Kubiak retain the respect of the team ... They absolutely must bring in some serious competition for the kicker spot - If Brown wins the job thats fine but they cant go into camp without a real fight for the roster spot.

Yep, if he wins the spot again, fine. There HAS to be competition for the position after this past year though.

 

[Double Barrel]

Its a what have you done for me lately league - Brown was pathetic this season. If Brown isnt held accountable how can Kubiak retain the respect of the team ... They absolutely must bring in some serious competition for the kicker spot - If Brown wins the job thats fine but they cant go into camp without a real fight for the roster spot.

This.

If they go with the status quo and do not seriously challenge this guy, it is a microcosm of the Kubiak regime as a whole body of work, IMO. You do not reward longevity in this league, you reward positive results.

Yes, Kris Brown has helped us win our first game against the Colts but when we needed him to step up...he didn't!

yep. Just like Ron Dayne, and I don't see anyone making a thread why he deserves our gratitude. The one and only time we beat the Colts was on the backs of Dayne and Brown, and even HWSNBN made a couple of plays when it mattered.

But that is ancient history as far as the 2010 season is concerned.

 

[hadaad]

As long as he stops costing us more games than he wins us, I'll remember him fondly.

If he's still a Texan next year, he'd better be better. That's all.

 

[Joe Texan]

Dude you remind me of a Saint fan but you do not hear me ranting and raving about that now do you.

I don't get why some people have such a hangup about calling a duck a duck. KB kicks like a duck, shits like a duck and when he tries to blame himself like Kubiak does all I hear is "Quack Quack QUUuuaaaack!!!"

Did Kris Brown put on an atrocious display of kicking this past season?
Quack
Did he miss every single field goal in every single pressure situation?
Quack
Did these misses likely keep the Texans from a better record than 9-7?
Quack
Would 1 or 3 more win(s) have us in the playoffs?
Quack
So it's safe to assume KB played a large role in blocking the team from a post season berth?
Quack but here's the deal. On one hand you see the team and it's failures and say, "Oh it's not just KB's fault, the team shouldn't put him in that position." On the other hand you have to look at game deciding kicks in a vaccuum. Nothing else matters when they start lining up for the kick, all that matters is that the guy who is paid solely and exclusively on his ability to make kicks does his job. Kickers are over praised/over criticized just like QBs are because their job is more decisive than the rest of the team but he missed all the big kicks. All of them. There isn't middle ground here and if there was KB couldn't kick a ball through it.

Oh and he missed an extra point. QUACK. That's a guy who is really, really, I mean truly struggling with his confidence. People on quack don't have the jitters that bad. But that's the guy you just want to thank because of all the kicks he made when they were not making any playoff noise?

 

[TD]

This year was not an aberration; the last two years were. Kris Brown has a career average of 77.3%, which is bottom 25% of NFL kickers, and six of the past nine seasons, he hasn't even achieved that lowly percentage.

Not saying we shouldn't look at kickers, but how is two years at 10% above your average an aberration while one year at 12% below it is not??

 

[El Tejano]

Does anyone know if Kris Brown has stock in Reliant or The Texans?

 

[eriadoc]

Not saying we shouldn't look at kickers, but how is two years at 10% above your average an aberration while one year at 12% below it is not??

Well, 65% might be an aberration even by Kris Brown standards, but the point stands - three years out of nine with a decent average does not justify the general perception that Kris Brown was a good kicker. For his career, he's been a bad kicker, and he has a quite lengthy track record to which one can refer. This year was bad, which Kris Brown has been more often than not, which is why I did not refer to this year as an aberration. You can qualify that if you want, I suppose, but it doesn't change the central premise.

 

[HoustonFrog]

Not saying we shouldn't look at kickers, but how is two years at 10% above your average an aberration while one year at 12% below it is not??

Because the one year coincides with a majority of his career.

 

[houstonspartan]

This is bs. I like Kris Brown, but 11 missed field goals is SHAMEFUL.

No one is saying he isn't a great guy. The "original Texan" thing is a cool piece of trivia, but, so what?

I don't think he should have competition brought in. I think he should be flat out released.

It's clear Kris can't handle pressure situations. Does he have any idea how much pressure this team will be under next year? Every single game, every single play, every single possession, every single drive, every single kick will be important next year. Every SECOND of every game next year will be important.

Can Kris handle that?

 

[No More 8-8's]

Missing field goals is one thing....it happens. Nobody is perfect. The misses he had were in clutch moments of the game and he failed everytime. Thats why kickers get big contracts, because they have ice in their veins and dont let it get to him. His time with us is over. Period.

Get rid of Pitts and Brown. 2010 is the start of a new decade and we dont need to hold on to such crappy history.

 

[JT]

Dude you remind me of a Saint fan but you do not hear me ranting and raving about that now do you.

What?..... Ok now ready for the other old lady to blame the Hurricane for Kris Brown's misses.....geez is the kool-aid that good?!

 

[Mr. White]

He'd get my gratitude if he made his kicks when a game is on the line.

Some of you care about how nice a guy is. I care about production.

 

[TD]

Because the one year coincides with a majority of his career.

No it doesn't....in the last 11 years he has 5 years above 80%; 4 year between 70 - 79% and 2 years below 70%.

Hate to let facts get in the way of a good crucifixion, but last year was the aberration.

 

[TimeKiller]

Dude you remind me of a Saint fan but you do not hear me ranting and raving about that now do you.

Holy roflcopters batman, I remind you of a Saint(s) fan do I? Why, because when I went to visit my sister in NOLA to watch a Saint(s) game the Texan(s) had just lost 4 straight chances at being a real playoff contender with no small thanks to Kris Brown's borderline amatuer season and I put up an avatar to express my displeasure?

I actually thought it was a funny rant but...I think I'm hilarious so whatever. All of it's still true. Kris Brown played an enormous part in the Texan(s) remaining playoff-free and got the gratitude he deserved for kicks he made 2 years ago 2 YEARS AGO! He doesn't deserve much now and certainly not gratitude. This thread is ****ing stupid.

 

[houstonspartan]

Holy roflcopters batman, I remind you of a Saint(s) fan do I? Why, because when I went to visit my sister in NOLA to watch a Saint(s) game the Texan(s) had just lost 4 straight chances at being a real playoff contender with no small thanks to Kris Brown's borderline amatuer season and I put up an avatar to express my displeasure?

I actually thought it was a funny rant but...I think I'm hilarious so whatever. All of it's still true. Kris Brown played an enormous part in the Texan(s) remaining playoff-free and got the gratitude he deserved for kicks he made 2 years ago 2 YEARS AGO! He doesn't deserve much now and certainly not gratitude. This thread is ****ing stupid.

I actually thought your rant was hilarious. I agreed with it 100 percent.

 

[HoustonFrog]

No it doesn't....in the last 11 years he has 5 years above 80%; 4 year between 70 - 79% and 2 years below 70%.

Hate to let facts get in the way of a good crucifixion, but last year was the aberration.

Yeah, so 6 out of the 11 years are just average or below and in his time here...only 3 of his 8 are what you would call good. How is that alright? Look at my stuff on Page 1. It is abnormal for a team to keep trotting out a guy who really isn't that great. There are 20 other guys out there who can do his job at his rate. This is the NFL. Teams don't keep guys who are just average or below out of some random idea of being loyal. He is a kicker. Good teams cut kickers this year and moved on seemlessly. How does 5 of 11 years turn into a good stat for a kicker?

Folk, who got cut, is only in his 3rd year and was hitting 86.8 his first 2 years. He is gone because he started costing chances to win. But Kris is a swell guy, by golly. Heck, Carney is in his 21st year and his career average is 82.4%...over 21 years.

 

[Texecutioner]

Again, this is just one example of one guy and one team. Sorry for some of you that I used the Cowboys. Just comes to mind. Teams routinely bring in new guys to compete and to make themselves better. This Kris Brown love just reeks of a misplaced loyalty they have. It really makes no sense. It isn't like he is Adam Vinatieri. And even he went to another team.

Not me. I think it's the perfect reference here. Kubes and Mcnair could learn a lot from Wade and Jerry. They didn't sit there with blind loyalty and get complacent. They showed that you've got to produce or sit down somewhere. This is a results oriented league. Brown has been great in the past, but he was atrocious this season, and the Texans could have at least brought another kicker on to sit behind Brown and kicked the rest of the game if Brown missed another one which he ended up missing several. The Texans could learn a lot from Jerry Jones at this point as sad as I am to have to say that and I never thought I would be saying those words, but it's the truth. Jerry's always changing things to try and make his team better. His moves aren't always the right ones, but he never gets complacent with anyone no matter who it is. We're way to complacent here and that needs to change at some point. Mcnair needs to start demanding accountability instead of kindly asking for it.

 

[disaacks3]

No it doesn't....in the last 11 years he has 5 years above 80%; 4 year between 70 - 79% and 2 years below 70%.

Hate to let facts get in the way of a good crucifixion, but last year was the aberration.

Avg during Texans tenure? (nobody should have to kick at Heinz field) 76.95%

He's had 3 years above that and 5 years below. Kickers don't tend to get appreciably better this late in a career, but many DO get appreciably worse.

Barely over 70% is NOT good for an NFL kicker. 65% is get-cut MID-Season bad. I appreciate everything that K. Brown has done for the Texans over the years, but you'd have to be the dumbest NFL management team in history to NOT bring in competition come camp time.

 

[PapaL]

My thought...set him free. Bring in a bunch of guys. If those guys suck too it's not like people are going to be beating down his door offering him a new job. I'm sure he'd be avaliable. Even if he's not, keep the revolving door open and keep bringing in guys until he find a half decent one to replace the half decent one that has worn out his use.

 

[houstonspartan]

Not me. I think it's the perfect reference here. Kubes and Mcnair could learn a lot from Wade and Jerry. They didn't sit there with blind loyalty and get complacent. They showed that you've got to produce or sit down somewhere. This is a results oriented league. Brown has been great in the past, but he was atrocious this season, and the Texans could have at least brought another kicker on to sit behind Brown and kicked the rest of the game if Brown missed another one which he ended up missing several. The Texans could learn a lot from Jerry Jones at this point as sad as I am to have to say that and I never thought I would be saying those words, but it's the truth. Jerry's always changing things to try and make his team better. His moves aren't always the right ones, but he never gets complacent with anyone no matter who it is. We're way to complacent here and that needs to change at some point. Mcnair needs to start demanding accountability instead of kindly asking for it.

Yep. I think the Cowboys are the perfect reference here. I am not a Jerry Jones fan becuase I think he's a buffoon. But, I give him credit for identifying a problem and dealing with it immediately.

With a few games left in the season, he saw that his pro bowl kicker was struggling. I'm sure he liked Nick Folk, but he also knew that they were trying to make a playoff push. So he replaced him. That's smart.

 

[HoustonFrog]

Yep. I think the Cowboys are the perfect reference here. I am not a Jerry Jones fan becuase I think he's a buffoon. But, I give him credit for identifying a problem and dealing with it immediately.

With a few games left in the season, he saw that his pro bowl kicker was struggling. I'm sure he liked Nick Folk, but he also knew that they were trying to make a playoff push. So he replaced him. That's smart.

And again, if you want to reference them and look back even farther, look at what the kicking coach did in the 90s(on page 1) there. Again, in this day and age where guys have big legs and there are many guys with the same ability, why keep one that hits a wall and loses games.

 

[TD]

Yeah, so 6 out of the 11 years are just average or below and in his time here...only 3 of his 8 are what you would call good. How is that alright? Look at my stuff on Page 1. It is abnormal for a team to keep trotting out a guy who really isn't that great. There are 20 other guys out there who can do his job at his rate. This is the NFL. Teams don't keep guys who are just average or below out of some random idea of being loyal. He is a kicker. Good teams cut kickers this year and moved on seemlessly. How does 5 of 11 years turn into a good stat for a kicker?

Never said it was good enough. I am saying that to act like last year was closer to his norm than the two years prior is factually incorrect. Last year was further from his average and his mean than 2007-2008.

The difference between an 80&#37; kicker and a 75% kicker is < 2 makes a year. Situation and distance could easily account for that with virtually identical kickers.

Brown had a HORRIBLE year...particularly late, but the SMART thing to do is decide his fate next TC....not today.

 

[HoustonFrog]

Never said it was good enough. I am saying that to act like last year was closer to his norm than the two years prior is factually incorrect. Last year was further from his average and his mean than 2007-2008.

The difference between an 80% kicker and a 75% kicker is < 2 makes a year. Situation and distance could easily account for that with virtually identical kickers.

Brown had a HORRIBLE year...particularly late, but the SMART thing to do is decide his fate next TC....not today.

Gotcha. I think my problem with this is twofold though 1) With pressure off in TC he might look great but feel the pressure once the games start again and with last year in his mind...who knows what happens 2) his career overall isn't so impressive that I worry about having to ask him back. Honestly, you might as well invite Folk, a younger and better kicker (when on) and hope he corrects himself compared to Brown. It isn't like he is Stover or Vinitieri years ago and you are worried about a top guy. Heck, invite 3 other guys like him if you chose. I think kickers might thrive on fresh starts

 

[GuerillaBlack]

No it doesn't....in the last 11 years he has 5 years above 80&#37;; 4 year between 70 - 79% and 2 years below 70%.

Hate to let facts get in the way of a good crucifixion, but last year was the aberration.

And guess what? This season was the closest year the Texans have been to the playoffs. When the Texans suck, he's good (as you can see by the numbers). When the pressure is on, he sucks (look at him with the Steelers and now, this year).

 

[DexmanC]

Never said it was good enough. I am saying that to act like last year was closer to his norm than the two years prior is factually incorrect. Last year was further from his average and his mean than 2007-2008.

The difference between an 80&#37; kicker and a 75% kicker is < 2 makes a year. Situation and distance could easily account for that with virtually identical kickers.

Brown had a HORRIBLE year...particularly late, but the SMART thing to do is decide his fate next TC....not today.

The reason the margin of error on kickers is so small, because 2 makes a year
can also equate to 2 wins a year. The NFL is a PRESSURE COOKER. ANY
mistake you make could potentially END YOUR SEASON. This is not the
time to play around with "he just missed two kicks" sentiment. Those
two kickers could mean the playoffs. Do you think Neal Rakers will be back
with the Cardinals next year?

 

[GuerillaBlack]

The reason the margin of error on kickers is so small, because 2 makes a year
can also equate to 2 wins a year. The NFL is a PRESSURE COOKER. ANY
mistake you make could potentially END YOUR SEASON. This is not the
time to play around with "he just missed two kicks" sentiment. Those
two kickers could mean the playoffs. Do you think Neal Rakers will be back
with the Cardinals next year?

Uh....yeah.

Agree with the rest of your post though. Kris Brown should have been cut after the MNF game, but we're too loyal for that.

 

[TD]

Do you think Neal Rakers will be back
with the Cardinals next year?

Over 90&#37; accuracy the last two regular seasons, plus 6-7 inside the 50 during the playoffs? You tell me.

 

[Grams]

What?..... Ok now ready for the other old lady to blame the Hurricane for Kris Brown's misses.....geez is the kool-aid that good?!

The other old lady?

And you are who??

Oh that's right - you are the guy that likes to neg rep people because you think they are off topic.

 

[GuerillaBlack]

Over 90&#37; accuracy the last two regular seasons, plus 6-7 inside the 50 during the playoffs? You tell me.

If only Kris Brown was that good for a team trying to win huh? Hell, Kris Brown misses extra points now. I think he was trying to make us lose the game.

 

[TD]

And guess what? This season was the closest year the Texans have been to the playoffs. When the Texans suck, he's good (as you can see by the numbers). When the pressure is on, he sucks (look at him with the Steelers and now, this year).

One year doesn't make a trend.

Better stat for pressure kicks is the game is tied (in other words...he can give the team the lead):

2007 - 2009 when the game is tied he is 19 of 22 (86&#37. Pretty damn good.

This year was bad enough without making up stuff to justify your opinions of him.

 

[GuerillaBlack]

One year doesn't make a trend.

Better stat for pressure kicks is the game is tied (in other words...he can give the team the lead):

2007 - 2009 when the game is tied he is 19 of 22 (86&#37. Pretty damn good.

C'mon....this year was bad enough without making up stuff to justify your opinions of him.

This isn't the first time it happened though. See, Kris Brown was good for the Texans when the pressure was off, but when it's on, he sucks. Now, pressure is not trying to win against the Colts when you're already 4-10. Pressure is when you are trying to get a playoff spot, like we were.

The same thing happened with him in Pittsburgh. When the pressure was on, he sucks. Kris Brown should have been cut after the MNF game. He better not be the only kicker brought in at training camp. If he is, we will really know how weak of a coach loyal Kubiak is.

McNair needs to really get some Jerry Jones in him and stop being so damn attached to players.

 

[TD]

If only Kris Brown was that good for a team trying to win huh? Hell, Kris Brown misses extra points now. I think he was trying to make us lose the game.

He lost it for whatever reason. I don't know if he can fix it, but you may want to Google Brad Lidge before you give up on him based on a late season swoon.

 

[TD]

He better not be the only kicker brought in at training camp. If he is, we will really know how weak of a coach loyal Kubiak is.

If Kris is the only kicker brought in....Kubiak probably won't be the only coach.

 

[GuerillaBlack]

He lost it for whatever reason. I don't know if he can fix it, but you may want to Google Brad Lidge before you give up on him based on a late season swoon.

Late season swoon? This all started with the first Colt game in Indy. The MIDDLE of the season. I don't care about Brad Lidge. He needed a change of scenery. So does Brown.

 

[PapaL]

How many times does a kicker trot out onto the field? 3, maybe 4? All of which are for points.

I would consider all those pressure situations.

It's not like he's making people miss mid trot and kicking an XP/FG.

 

[TD]

Late season swoon? This all started with the first Colt game in Indy. The MIDDLE of the season. I don't care about Brad Lidge. He needed a change of scenery. So does Brown.

If fans ran teams, they would have 16 starting line-ups and a decade of 2-14 seasons. Thank goodness people with the football smarts don't have the same knee-jerk philosophy.

 

[PapaL]

As for the gratitude comment in the title - he should show the team gratitude for not cutting his sorry "leg".