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Why I would keep Kubiak

TEXANRED

Texan-American
I know I know. You look at my soap and you say to yourself, "WTF? Make up your mind." Well, I do feel this way for the most part but hear me out.

I really don't wanna go 6-10 or worse next year. Next years schedule is going to be brutal enough with the team that we have without having to throw in a new coach and a new system and everything else that goes with change. Not only are we going to have to play our divisional schedule, but also the NFC East. And to top that if we do finish second in our division we get the 2nd place schedule.

We have improved every year under Kubiak. We are a running back and a center away from being able to compete within our division. This is the best Defense we have ever had.

I am going to agree with Bum Phillips, we are on the verge of something special and I want to see one more year.

I hate myself.
 

Cjeremy635

Overtraining
I know I know. You look at my soap and you say to yourself, "WTF? Make up your mind." Well, I do feel this way for the most part but hear me out.

I really don't wanna go 6-10 or worse next year. Next years schedule is going to be brutal enough with the team that we have without having to throw in a new coach and a new system and everything else that goes with change. Not only are we going to have to play our divisional schedule, but also the NFC East. And to top that if we do finish second in our division we get the 2nd place schedule.

We have improved every year under Kubiak. We are a running back and a center away from being able to compete within our division. This is the best Defense we have ever had.

I am going to agree with Bum Phillips, we are on the verge of something special and I want to see one more year.

I hate myself.
That makes 2 of us, I hate you too.

J/K....lol.. You know where I stand, I don't have the soap. I think we are on the verge of something great too, it's just a ***** trying to get over that hill. When we do get there, it will be a sweet thing and the good thing is that we are being built to contend for a while....not a 1 and done.
 

TexansFanatic

Extremist
When we do get there, it will be a sweet thing and the good thing is that we are being built to contend for a while....not a 1 and done.
I think this is true. After another draft and a couple more free agent moves this team will have a really solid roster built for a series of playoff runs.
 

TEXANRED

Texan-American
That makes 2 of us, I hate you too.

J/K....lol.. You know where I stand, I don't have the soap. I think we are on the verge of something great too, it's just a ***** trying to get over that hill. When we do get there, it will be a sweet thing and the good thing is that we are being built to contend for a while....not a 1 and done.
This hill is more like Everest but I guess its better to be almost to the top than to be under the mountain like we were at 2-14.
 

euro-Texan

Rookie
I think we're really close and I don't buy into the NFC east hype, whoever coaches this team will get us to the playoffs next year. My fear of a new coach is that this roster doesn't fit into his plan and we get a huge roster shift that is essentially starting over
 

Thorn

Dirty Old Man
Kubiak is back next year anyway, so all the hang wringing is useless. We've got one more draft and season under Kubiak and Smith, so we might as well cheer them on and hope for the best.
 

euro-Texan

Rookie
Kubiak is back next year anyway, so all the hang wringing is useless. We've got one more draft and season under Kubiak and Smith, so we might as well cheer them on and hope for the best.
Well Thorn I guess you don't see much chance of the Texans succeeding under Kubiak next year. Could be worse, you could be sporting a JETS avatar again.
 

Thorn

Dirty Old Man
Well Thorn I guess you don't see much chance of the Texans succeeding under Kubiak next year. Could be worse, you could be sporting a JETS avatar again.
You never know what the Texans are going to do. But one thing is for sure, whatever happens during the offseason and training camp, they have got to get this only playing half a game thing out of their system. If these guys could just improve to playing 3 quarters from 2, I'll bet we are in the playoffs next year.
 

euro-Texan

Rookie
You never know what the Texans are going to do. But one thing is for sure, whatever happens during the offseason and training camp, they have got to get this only playing half a game thing out of their system. If these guys could just improve to playing 3 quarters from 2, I'll bet we are in the playoffs next year.
Agreed
 

jaayteetx

All Pro
Whats all this talk about next years NFC opponents? Our achilles heel has been our division, period. Win in the south and all is good, IMHO.
 

TEXANRED

Texan-American
You never know what the Texans are going to do. But one thing is for sure, whatever happens during the offseason and training camp, they have got to get this only playing half a game thing out of their system. If these guys could just improve to playing 3 quarters from 2, I'll bet we are in the playoffs next year.
I think a running game, OD being healthy, and getting Pitts back will help with that.
 

TEXANRED

Texan-American
Whats all this talk about next years NFC opponents? Our achilles heel has been our division, period. Win in the south and all is good, IMHO.
Anxious on my part. I don't wanna lose to Dallas in our house, I may be going to the Philly game so if I am going to have stuff slung at my head and end up in jail I would like for us to at least win, and the Giants and Redskins are good team. That and its a tough smash mouth old school division.

For our division we need CB's and a FS to beat Indy, a DT to beat the Tits, and some luck to beat the Jags.

Edit:

Maybe Kubiak really is trying to get fired.

Next years schedule:
Home: Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Kansas City, San Diego, Dallas, N.Y. Giants, AFC North
Away: Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Denver, Oakland, Philadelphia, Washington, AFC East

AFC North will either be Pit or Baltimore and AFC East will be the Jets.
 
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Big Lou

Hall of Fame
I know there are a lot out there ready to get rid of Kubes. I just can't get over the fact that this team just seems like it is so close, this team has been in every game except the Jets game. I think that's what makes it so frustrating.

Even though the record doesn't show it (yet) but this team has gotten better each year under Kubes. The first couple of years were leaps, and the last few have been baby steps, but that's how it works in my opinion.
 

euro-Texan

Rookie
I know there are a lot out there ready to get rid of Kubes. I just can't get over the fact that this team just seems like it is so close, this team has been in every game except the Jets game. I think that's what makes it so frustrating.

Even though the record doesn't show it (yet) but this team has gotten better each year under Kubes. The first couple of years were leaps, and the last few have been baby steps, but that's how it works in my opinion.
Hell when Kubiak got here a three game winning streak was unheard of. I think the biggest step has been our legitimacy. I don't think any team faces us like the pushovers we were our first six seasons. We are routinely picked to win against contenders, even on the road. We HAVE to win more division games next year and I think that over the W/L ratio will deceide whether Kubiak returns after next year.
 
Guys, honestly, all I want is improvement in the AFC South. I don't think that's too much to ask for. We take care of our own division, and the rest will take care of itself.

Next year's schedule is going to be B-R-U-T-A-L.
 

Lucky

Ride, Captain, Ride!
Staff member
Next years schedule:
Home: Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Oakland, San Diego, Dallas, N.Y. Giants, AFC North
Away: Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Denver, Kansas City, Philadelphia, Washington, AFC East

AFC North will either be Pit or Baltimore and AFC East will be the Jets.
Fixed it.

Wow. That's a tough schedule. Playing big boy football next season.
 

edo783

Hall of Fame
To pull a wining season from that line up will be a major challenge. That is one tough line up of teams...... as we understand them this year. They may change.
 

Ryan

THIS YEAR
Our defense early in the year nearly cost us 3 games, but now it's one of our biggest strengths i think. I can still see 10 wins in our schedule next year due to the fact that i think we can only get better by the draft and FA. We can easily win all 4 games in the NFC East cause i also don't buy into the hype. The only possible loss from that division i think is the Eagles. I think we can go either 3-3 or 4-2 in division next year since i think we'll go back to at least beating the Jaguars again, and god forbid we might actually beat the Colts once.
 
Fixed it.

Wow. That's a tough schedule. Playing big boy football next season.
Yes, we are, my friend. That's why this season was the season to shore up our issues and learn to play 60 minutes. Next year is going to be a struggle. And we know how this team does in struggles...

Still, today's win was a good one, and the first half was exciting. I'll take it.
 

SAMURAITEXAN

All Pro
We are improving every year since Kubiak became HC for the Texans. When he first arrived here, we were bad team. For last two years, we were 8-8. And this year, we may ended up having the first winning record + playoff.

Go Texans!!!
 
Our defense early in the year nearly cost us 3 games, but now it's one of our biggest strengths i think. I can still see 10 wins in our schedule next year due to the fact that i think we can only get better by the draft and FA. We can easily win all 4 games in the NFC East cause i also don't buy into the hype. The only possible loss from that division i think is the Eagles. I think we can go either 3-3 or 4-2 in division next year since i think we'll go back to at least beating the Jaguars again, and god forbid we might actually beat the Colts once.
Are you kidding me? We'll be lucky to split the division 3-3. Indy, Tenn and Jax know us backwards and forwards, as they should, since we're in the same division. The Texans, however, can't figure out how to beat teams they've faced twice a year for eight years.

And don't sleep on the NFC East. The Giants will be pissed about this year, and they will come around quick. And, I think the Redskins will have a more decent year next year than we think.
 

Ryan

THIS YEAR
Are you kidding me? We'll be lucky to split the division 3-3. Indy, Tenn and Jax know us backwards and forwards, as they should, since we're in the same division. The Texans, however, can't figure out how to beat teams they've faced twice a year for eight years.

And don't sleep on the NFC East. The Giants will be pissed about this year, and they will come around quick. And, I think the Redskins will have a more decent year next year than we think.

Every single division game we had was close this year. It's not like any of the teams are lightyears ahead of where we are anymore, the gap has tightened. If we can just fix the obvious simple mistakes we're a very good team.
 

DexmanC

Hall of Fame
Every single division game we had was close this year. It's not like any of the teams are lightyears ahead of where we are anymore, the gap has tightened. If we can just fix the obvious simple mistakes we're a very good team.
Our division games are ALWAYS close, it's just that we come out on the LOSING
END waaayyy more than 50% of the time. Gettin' beat is still gettin' beat, be
it by 1 point or 40.
 
Every single division game we had was close this year. It's not like any of the teams are lightyears ahead of where we are anymore, the gap has tightened. If we can just fix the obvious simple mistakes we're a very good team.
Well, sure, we were close in all of those games. And, they were pretty exciting games. But, I only saw a W after one of them. That's what matters.

I agree with you, though, that the gap has tightened. No way is Jacksonville a better team we are THIS YEAR. Jacksonville has a coach that knows how to rally the troops and get his guys playing in key moments. And, trust me, Del Rio doesn't have even a fraction of the talent Kubiak has.
 

Ryan

THIS YEAR
Well, sure, we were close in all of those games. And, they were pretty exciting games. But, I only saw a W after one of them. That's what matters.

I agree with you, though, that the gap has tightened. No way is Jacksonville a better team we are THIS YEAR. Jacksonville has a coach that knows how to rally the troops and get his guys playing in key moments. And, trust me, Del Rio doesn't have even a fraction of the talent Kubiak has.

Which is why i still have my pink soap on...Kubiak needs to watch some gamefilm of Belichick or someone in the offseason and watch how he coaches...could probably learn a thing or two, which could help us get over the hump.
 

maddogmrb

Rookie
I don't understand you guys. We played a dominant 1st half and then were in danger of losing the game. This, most likely, will be our 3rd 8-8 season and, even if we do beat the Pats (fat chance) the Jets are in the driver's seat and we won't make the playoffs.

Even if, by a miracle, we beat the Pats and the Jets lose at home to the Gals, and we make the playoffs, we are STILL a mediocre team with a mediocre record.

So, we keep Smithiak and end up mediocre again next year, but we came close to making the playoffs with a tough schedule so let's give Smithiak another 5 years of mediocrity!

Since Smithiak took over the team there have been several other teams change coaches and already made the playoffs and one of them did it with a rookie QB.

I just don't believe Kubes is HC material at this point. He is a really good guy and obviously a good coordinator.

Smith as GM ..... well the middle of both our lines are STILL weak and, while Pollard is an excellent addition, we are weak at safety. We have potential at CB with the rookies and that's encouraging, but they're not there yet.

Oh yeah, our DE's are very inconsistent, too.

I say make the change this year or next year we're gonna be looking at 7-9 and saying that we improved as a team, just not reflected in W's.....
 

DexmanC

Hall of Fame
Rex Ryan does in ONE year, what Kubiak couldn't in FOUR! No way they
lose to the Bengals next week, so...

Rookie Head Coach SCHOOLS Kubiak in RELIANT, and takes a ROOKIE
QB to the PLAYOFFS!!

We need another 5 years to see what this is about? We have more talent
than Tennessee, AND Jacksonville, and can work just ONE win out of those
four games? We DOMINATE the Colts for a half, and expect to win on just
that?

C'mon, son!!
 

michaelm

vox nihili
Rex Ryan does in ONE year, what Kubiak couldn't in FOUR! No way they
lose to the Bengals next week, so...

Rookie Head Coach SCHOOLS Kubiak in RELIANT, and takes a ROOKIE
QB to the PLAYOFFS!!

We need another 5 years to see what this is about? We have more talent
than Tennessee, AND Jacksonville, and can work just ONE win out of those
four games? We DOMINATE the Colts for a half, and expect to win on just
that?

C'mon, son!!
Ryan inherited a team that went 9-7 last year, and they need to win next week to have a record that good this year. Kubiak inherited a 2-14 team.
Yeah, Ryan may make the playoffs with a rookie QB, but let's not paint it like he took his team from worst to first in one year... that's just not accurate. The Jets may actually end up losing one more game this year than last year... at least Kubiak never went backwards...
 

michaelm

vox nihili
Ryan inherited a team that went 9-7 last year, and they need to win next week to have a record that good this year. Kubiak inherited a 2-14 team.
Yeah, Ryan may make the playoffs with a rookie QB, but let's not paint it like he took his team from worst to first in one year... that's just not accurate. The Jets may actually end up losing one more game this year than last year... at least Kubiak never went backwards...

Not only that, The Jets would probably have a losing record RIGHT NOW if the Colts hadn't forfeited today's game to them...
 

DexmanC

Hall of Fame
Ryan inherited a team that went 9-7 last year, and they need to win next week to have a record that good this year. Kubiak inherited a 2-14 team.
Yeah, Ryan may make the playoffs with a rookie QB, but let's not paint it like he took his team from worst to first in one year... that's just not accurate. The Jets may actually end up losing one more game this year than last year... at least Kubiak never went backwards...
He inherited that team FOUR YEARS AGO!!
Last year, the Dolphins went from 1-15 to the playoffs! Even THIS year,
they had a division record of 4-2, and had MANY more crushing injuries than
we did, and STILL challenged for a playoff spot. In 2009, Kubiak was working with
a squad that went 8-8 TWO YEARS IN A ROW!! By 2009 standards, they were
at the same starting point, with Kubiak having THREE FULL SEASONS more
HEADCOACHING EXPERIENCE!

That 2-14 excuse was wore out like old turkey meat. You still makin'
sandwiches out of the "2-14" excuse.
 

michaelm

vox nihili
He inherited that team FOUR YEARS AGO!!
Last year, the Dolphins went from 1-15 to the playoffs! Even THIS year,
they had a division record of 4-2, and had MANY more crushing injuries than
we did, and STILL challenged for a playoff spot. In 2009, Kubiak was working with
a squad that went 8-8 TWO YEARS IN A ROW!! By 2009 standards, they were
at the same starting point, with Kubiak having THREE FULL SEASONS more
HEADCOACHING EXPERIENCE!

That 2-14 excuse was wore out like old turkey meat. You still makin'
sandwiches out of the "2-14" excuse.
No, I'm actually not arguing FOR Kubiak at all, just pointing out the flaws in your statement.
If you would've used Miami as an example in the earlier post, I probably wouldn't have responded at all...
I think the Jets are a bad comparison, and didn't agree with your statement is all.
I'm definitely not defending Kubiak...

Also, you are pointing out the whole four year thing, so the starting point of 2-14 is relevant. If you start your statement from last year @ 8-8, then 2-14 isn't relevant.
 
He inherited that team FOUR YEARS AGO!!
Last year, the Dolphins went from 1-15 to the playoffs! Even THIS year,
they had a division record of 4-2, and had MANY more crushing injuries than
we did, and STILL challenged for a playoff spot. In 2009, Kubiak was working with
a squad that went 8-8 TWO YEARS IN A ROW!! By 2009 standards, they were
at the same starting point, with Kubiak having THREE FULL SEASONS more
HEADCOACHING EXPERIENCE!

That 2-14 excuse was wore out like old turkey meat. You still makin'
sandwiches out of the "2-14" excuse.
I agree about the "2-14 excuse." It's old.

Btw, where's your soap? Drop it?
 

DerekLee1

Veteran
Keep Kubiak. He has improved as a head coach game by game, season by season. It's not like he's making the same mistakes over and over. His players obviously like playing for him, and he always puts good coaches around him. Can you imagine how good our team would have been if Frank Bush had been our DC from his first season LIKE KUBIAK WANTED?!?

I, for one, don't want to start over with a new HC and will give Kubes at least one more season to see what he can accomplish. Here's to hoping he's another long-timer that can take this team to the playoffs year after year after year.
 
Keep Kubiak. He has improved as a head coach game by game, season by season. It's not like he's making the same mistakes over and over. His players obviously like playing for him, and he always puts good coaches around him. Can you imagine how good our team would have been if Frank Bush had been our DC from his first season LIKE KUBIAK WANTED?!?

I, for one, don't want to start over with a new HC and will give Kubes at least one more season to see what he can accomplish. Here's to hoping he's another long-timer that can take this team to the playoffs year after year after year.
Uh, he HAS been making the same mistakes over and over. You been watching this team?

I don't see how you can say he has improved game by game. Those four division losses were so embarrassing it's not even funny. And, if you don't think division games aren't important, think again. Division games are the most important games we play. They're also the most winnable, since we play these teams twice a year and should know them backwards and forwards.

So, technically, Gary's record in the division should be factored into his effectiveness as a head coach, wouldn't you agree?

Gary's AFC South record: 7-17.

That's shameful.
 

DerekLee1

Veteran
Uh, he HAS been making the same mistakes over and over. You been watching this team?

I don't see how you can say he has improved game by game. Those four division losses were so embarrassing it's not even funny. And, if you don't think division games aren't important, think again. Division games are the most important games we play. They're also the most winnable, since we play these teams twice a year and should know them backwards and forwards.

So, technically, Gary's record in the division should be factored into his effectiveness as a head coach, wouldn't you agree?

Gary's AFC South record: 7-17.

That's shameful.
Heartbreaking, yes. Embarrassing? Not even. Those are rivalry games and can ALWAYS fall either way. The cowboys' 1-15 season is a great example. Their one victory was against the rival Redskins.

The only mistake Kubiak has made regularly is giving Chris Brown the football. I still can't believe I was actually excited at one point that we signed that guy. *shudder*.

A stud RB in the first round, a C and DT in the 2nd and third, and we're an annual contender.
 
Heartbreaking, yes. Embarrassing? Not even. Those are rivalry games and can ALWAYS fall either way. The cowboys' 1-15 season is a great example. Their one victory was against the rival Redskins.

The only mistake Kubiak has made regularly is giving Chris Brown the football. I still can't believe I was actually excited at one point that we signed that guy. *shudder*.

A stud RB in the first round, a C and DT in the 2nd and third, and we're an annual contender.
You're joking, right?

Let me get this straight: The Texans had like six months to prepare for what they knew was a big game. They knew it was Monday Night. They knew it could have major implications for post season. They knew it could be a "signature" game that would announce to the world that we had arrives. They knew that it was against our BIGGEST RIVALS. They knew it would be on national television. And, a bonus: It was right after a bye week! They'd be nice and rested, no?

They knew all of this. And yet they blew the Monday night game. That was embarrassing. Period.

But that wasn't good enough. They went on to lose VERY IMPORTANT GAMES to Indy, Jax, and Indy again.

And you're telling me those losses weren't embarrassing? And who gives a f--k about the Cowboys right after Jerry Jones bought them?

You don't seem to understand the importance of division games. Those are not "rivalry" games. They are damn important games.

If we had one just TWO more of those division games we would be relaxed right now, wondering if we'd be playing the playoffs at home, or on the road.
 

DexmanC

Hall of Fame
I agree about the "2-14 excuse." It's old.

Btw, where's your soap? Drop it?
I'm still of the same mind, it's just I have no faith in Bob Mcnair to do what's
right after today's game. Jeff Van Gundy led the Rockets to the playoffs
every year, and Les Alexander fired him because the team was getting
to the same place EVERY YEAR, and not advancing.

Lack of progress is FAILURE. I just don't think Mcnair sees it that way. Perhaps
he'll surprise me after the Superbowl.

By the way, since the tail end of the '06 season, Kubiak has coached in
55 games. His record?

28-27

Tail end of '06: 4-4
Entire 2007 season: 8-8
Entire 2008 season: 8-8
2009 season so far: 8-7
What about these 55 games haven't given you a lengthy-enough track
record to make the proper evaluation?
 
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DerekLee1

Veteran
You're joking, right?

Let me get this straight: The Texans had like six months to prepare for what they knew was a big game. They knew it was Monday Night. They knew it could have major implications for post season. They knew it could be a "signature" game that would announce to the world that we had arrives. They knew that it was against our BIGGEST RIVALS. They knew it would be on national television. And, a bonus: It was right after a bye week! They'd be nice and rested, no?

They knew all of this. And yet they blew the Monday night game. That was embarrassing. Period.

But that wasn't good enough. They went on to lose VERY IMPORTANT GAMES to Indy, Jax, and Indy again.

And you're telling me those losses weren't embarrassing? And who gives a f--k about the Cowboys right after Jerry Jones bought them?

You don't seem to understand the importance of division games. Those are not "rivalry" games. They are damn important games.

If we had one just TWO more of those division games we would be relaxed right now, wondering if we'd be playing the playoffs at home, or on the road.
I'm not living in the past. I'm living for now, and Kubiak has us one victory away from a playoff berth (with a little help). And with all but one loss within 8 points, I think you give the guy one more shot before you start over.
 
I'm still of the same mind, it's just I have no faith in Bob Mcnair to do what's
right after today's game. Jeff Van Gundy led the Rockets to the playoffs
every year, and Les Alexander fired him because the team was getting
to the same place EVERY YEAR, and not advancing.

Lack of progress is FAILURE. I just don't think Mcnair sees it that way. Perhaps
he'll surprise me after the Superbowl.
After the Superbowl is too late to make a coaching decision. The game is in early Feb, and you have the combine and draft looming right after. Coaching changes must happen quickly after the season.

I agree with you about lack of progress. We think alike. Back in the 90s, the Cleveland Indians went to the World Series twice. They lost both times. The second time they lost, they fired their manager. Me and a buddy got into a heated argument. He couldn't see why they fired a coach who'd gone to the world series twice. I told him that they had to, because they were stuck in second gear and wasn't moving forward.
 
I'm not living in the past. I'm living for now, and Kubiak has us one victory away from a playoff berth (with a little help). And with all but one loss within 8 points, I think you give the guy one more shot before you start over.
You're not living in the past?

WTF?

We clearly have a mental block about the division games. CLEARLY. And those games are in our FUTURE. When we think about the division games, we have to look in the past. We have to think about division games ALL THE TIME. They should be our obsession.

Dude, never mind. You're not getting it.
 

bckey

All Pro
Keep Kubiak. He has improved as a head coach game by game, season by season. It's not like he's making the same mistakes over and over. His players obviously like playing for him, and he always puts good coaches around him. Can you imagine how good our team would have been if Frank Bush had been our DC from his first season LIKE KUBIAK WANTED?!?

I, for one, don't want to start over with a new HC and will give Kubes at least one more season to see what he can accomplish. Here's to hoping he's another long-timer that can take this team to the playoffs year after year after year.
Keeping Kubiak will just set us back a year. He hasn't improved this team. We add more talent every year but still hover around .500. This year we had a soft schedule and a well timed bye week. What did they do? Lose 4 division games in a row. They are exactly where they have been the last 2 years but the difference this year is the teams competing for the wildcard are at .500 also. So the Texans are the same old Texans. They are who we thought they were. They can't play 60 minutes of football to save their life. That my fellow fans is on the coaching staff.
 

mussop

Hall of Fame
Keep Kubiak. He has improved as a head coach game by game, season by season. It's not like he's making the same mistakes over and over.
Really? Please explain how he has gotten better and what mistakes is he not making now? :goodluck: Im very interested in hearing this. :evil:
 

ObsiWan

Hall of Fame
Contributor's Club
Are you kidding me? We'll be lucky to split the division 3-3. Indy, Tenn and Jax know us backwards and forwards, as they should, since we're in the same division. The Texans, however, can't figure out how to beat teams they've faced twice a year for eight years.

And don't sleep on the NFC East. The Giants will be pissed about this year, and they will come around quick. And, I think the Redskins will have a more decent year next year than we think.
What was that Osi quote about this possibly being his last game in a Giants' uni? Is he a F/A next season?
 

worldlyman

Waterboy
Keeping Kubiak will just set us back a year. He hasn't improved this team. We add more talent every year but still hover around .500. This year we had a soft schedule and a well timed bye week. What did they do? Lose 4 division games in a row. They are exactly where they have been the last 2 years but the difference this year is the teams competing for the wildcard are at .500 also. So the Texans are the same old Texans. They are who we thought they were. They can't play 60 minutes of football to save their life. That my fellow fans is on the coaching staff.
No. You have it wrong. The Houston Texans are not "exactly" where they were last year.

This season, as opposed to past seasons:

-Kubiak had them at 5-3 at midpoint, first time ever, first time in Texans history.

-Kubiak's got a wide receiver no. 1 NFL in yards, a QB no. 1 NFL in yards, first time ever in Texans history. He had a no. 1 tight end in yards and receptions before he went down for the year.

-Kubiak's got the Texans at 8-7 at this point, STILL IN THE PLAYOFF HUNT THIS LATE IN DECEMBER, first time in franchise history.

-In the Kubiak era, the Texans defense is above 15 in NFL rank and getting more solid. This is unlike last year when the D was virtually prostrate.

At 5-3, I didn't think the Texans would beat the Colts going in, especially after losing Owen Daniels. And I felt that the other rugged AFC South teams would take advantage of the aftermath...

other than that bad 4 game stretch...this Texans team MADE HUGE STEPS THIS YEAR. 5-3 at the midpoint...and then a 3 game winning streak after that difficult Peyton Manning 2-in-3 weeks storm.

So don't put this on Kubiak. Sure, some questionable playcalling on his part but like a broken record, refraining: KUBIAK DIDN"T MISS TWO END OF GAME FIELD GOALS or DROP A GAME TYING BALL AT THE GOAL LINE IN THE WANING SECONDS.

Spelling out the real details certainly refutes the knee-jerk Kubiak detractors.

Going in to next year, there is a lot to look forward to. The Texans have exceeded statistical and closed many performance gaps even if the final scores didn't always reflect that. (And haven't the Texans had losses of no more than 8 points apart from Opening Day? Consider the last two seasons when they were blown out in quite a few losses.)

And really apart from the Colts...the Texans have pretty much split wins and losses with the other AFC South teams the last few years. (Sweeping Jags in 2006-07, splitting with Titans last two seasons, splitting with Jags prior two years...)

Man, you cynics are amazing.
 
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bckey

All Pro
No. You have it wrong. The Houston Texans are not "exactly" where they were last year.

This season, as opposed to past seasons:

-Kubiak had them at 5-3 at midpoint, first time ever, first time in Texans history.
Softest schedule the Texans have had. And they managed to blow 4 division games in a row.

-Kubiak's got a wide receiver no. 1 NFL in yards, a QB no. 1 NFL in yards, first time ever in Texans history. He had a no. 1 tight end in yards and receptions before he went down for the year.
That is good. But that is between the 20's mostly. And usually in one half of a game.

-Kubiak's got the Texans at 8-7 at this point, STILL IN THE PLAYOFF HUNT THIS LATE IN DECEMBER, first time in franchise history..)
If you would have read my post you would have seen my explanation of that. The only reason we are still in the playoff hunt is because the other teams contending for a wildcard spot are hovering around the .500 mark. They are invading our mediocre territory.

-In the Kubiak era, the Texans defense is above 15 in NFL rank and getting more solid. This is unlike last year when the D was virtually prostrate..)
I like our defense. But that is because of Bush not Kubiak.

At 5-3, I didn't think the Texans would beat the Colts going in, especially after losing Owen Daniels. And I felt that the other rugged AFC South teams would take advantage of the aftermath...

other than that bad 4 game stretch...this Texans team MADE HUGE STEPS THIS YEAR. 5-3 at the midpoint...and then a 3 game winning streak after that difficult Peyton Manning 2-in-3 weeks storm..)
Under Kubiak the Texans have been 3-3, 1-5, 2-4 and 1-5 against the teams in our division. If we can't beat those teams (that we face twice a year) then we will never go anywhere.

So don't put this on Kubiak. Sure, some questionable playcalling on his part but like a broken record, refraining: KUBIAK DIDN"T MISS TWO END OF GAME FIELD GOALS or DROP A GAME TYING BALL AT THE GOAL LINE IN THE WANING SECONDS..)
None of those plays were for the win.

Spelling out the real details certainly refutes the knee-jerk Kubiak detractors.
Yep. Looks like you got us with those details.

Going in to next year, there is a lot to look forward to. The Texans have exceeded statistical and closed many performance gaps even if the final scores didn't always reflect that. (And haven't the Texans had losses of no more than 8 points apart from Opening Day? Consider the last two seasons when they were blown out in quite a few losses.)
Stats and close losses do nothing for us. We need wins and consistant play for 60 minutes a game for 16 games. We have the talent to beat any team in the NFL. The frustrating part is Kubiak doesn't know how to use it. The Texans are the most up and down team week to week and game half to game half in the NFL. This is a direct reflection of our hc not being able to prepare his team properly imho.
 

DexmanC

Hall of Fame
We're 8-7.
9-7, on a weak schedule, in which you UNDERACHIEVED to fall to, with no
playoffs, is no different than 8-8. If they make the playoffs, then I'll give
this coaching staff credit for saving the season. Until then, they're the same
squad they were in the second half of '06 all the way to now.

Again.

Gary Kubiak's last 55 games:

Second half of '06: 4-4
Entire '07 season : 8-8
Entire '08 season : 8-8
This season so far: 8-7

Overall Record: 28-27

So what's changed?
 
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