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Carr Bombed

Hall of Fame
You're soft......softer than baby **** after a double dose of ex-lax.

You're soft mentally...

You're soft physically...

You play soft...

and worst of all......you're coached to be soft and all of your "tough guy" talk and your best impersonations of a tough team aren't enough to change the league's impression of the truth. Bart Scott and Rex Ryan were spot on and no matter how many times you play patty cake with opposing teams on the sideline or bark at opposing players, people are still going to treat you like the prison ***** that you are when you're getting repeatedly truck over or simply ran past for 60+ yard TDs....

Reliant Stadium.......where the softest team in the NFL plays.

I really enjoyed JDR laughing on the sideline all day long.....he knows, everybody knows, it's no secret.
 
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Carr Bombed

Hall of Fame
This whole soft thing is so overplayed.
Not really......it's a mentality. That's why the Jets or doing so good (as well as other "tough" teams)...you think it's overplayed, go talk to Singletary and the 49ers. Those teams have a "punch you in the mouth" swagger about them, we don't.
 

SheTexan

Hall of Fame
Our team is not soft!! It's just poorly coached! We have a HC that is SOFT, and has NO freaking clue how to prepare his team for a game! When the same mistakes are made over and over again, look to the sideline for someone to blame!! JMO!!
 

euro-Texan

Rookie
Soft? Man come on! Our offense played well and Our D just needs to come together and they will. We easily could have won this game.
 
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Ckw

Guest
Two years ago, San Francisco had a worse defense than us. We were 24 and they were 25 in total defense and in points per game, they were 20 and we were 22. This year while we are almost dead last in both categories, San Fran is 7 in total yards and 4 in points per game. Don't tell me a tough coach can't make a ton of difference. San Fran does not have much more talent than us on defense yet their guys play with fire. What I would give right now to have hired Singletary instead of Kubiak...
 

Carr Bombed

Hall of Fame
Soft? Man come on! Our offense played well and Our D just needs to come together and they will. We easily could have won this game.
We are soft.. there's no way around it. When you give up that many yards/big plays week in and week out, teams are licking their chops to smack your soft ass around.

Yes our offense played well, but we can't even consistently run the ball and have no rushing TDs this season.....again, SOFT.

I mean come on..it's time to call a spade a spade, we have a royal flush of softness.
 

Wolf

100% Texan
to me again we are the little kid on the block that everybody knows but gets pushed around, well the kid tries to stand up for himself and take on the bully and show the bully that he is big now and can fend for himself, only to get beat up again.
 

JB

Innocent Bystander
Contributor's Club
I don't know if they are soft or not...

but they are certainly un-disciplined and down right stupid at times!
 

Craig.

Nosebleeds
Our team is not soft!! It's just poorly coached! We have a HC that is SOFT, and has NO freaking clue how to prepare his team for a game! When the same mistakes are made over and over again, look to the sideline for someone to blame!! JMO!!
I may be alone in this but I didn't think today's loss was on Kubes at all.
 

Wolf

100% Texan
all I can say is games like this will not let kubiak keep his job ..whether the offense scores 30 points a game or not ..he made HIS choice of DC and so where does an owner go after that?
 

Carr Bombed

Hall of Fame
I think you guys are reading way to much into this. Our defense is young and lacking a couple of players.
There's a WHOLE lot more wrong with this defense than just that.

Youth is not a excuse, espcially when one of the young guys (Cushing) has been one of your best defensive players...

Houston is out of position WAY too much for this to just be a "personnel" issue...there's a coaching problem here as well.
 

Carr Bombed

Hall of Fame
I may be alone in this but I didn't think today's loss was on Kubes at all.
His decision to hire within a defensive coaching staff that SUCKED year after year was a BIG reason for today's loss.

Look at the Saints with Greg Williams. Kubiak didn't even hold a open interview for a replacement.
 

Norg

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We are not soft yall fail to releize this is a healthy JAgs team not the jags from last year

A divison game yall must not know these can go either way !!!!!!!!!!

do yall really think we will be able to sweep the jags colts and titans maybe one but not all 3
 

euro-Texan

Rookie
There's a WHOLE lot more wrong with this defense than just that.

Youth is not a excuse, espcially when one of the young guys (Cushing) has been one of your best defensive players...

Houston is out of position WAY too much for this to just be a "personnel" issue...there's a coaching problem here as well.
Look how bad the Tacks are minus 1 player on defense.
 

Carr Bombed

Hall of Fame
We are not soft yall fail to releize this is a healthy JAgs team not the jags from last year

A divison game yall must not know these can go either way !!!!!!!!!!

do yall really think we will be able to sweep the jags colts and titans maybe one but not all 3
LMAO.....I'm not just talking about this game, I'm talking about every game so far this season. (including preseason)
 

Norg

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LMAO.....I'm not just talking about this game, I'm talking about every game so far this season. (including preseason)

Ok we are soft but not the sofest

We are the Kings of the loser team a middle of the pack team but us aganist the browns Bills or the Miami and we will straight school them watch u will see when we play the bills and miami
 

TexansSeminole

Hall of Fame
Ok we are soft but not the sofest

We are the Kings of the loser team a middle of the pack team but us aganist the browns Bills or the Miami and we will straight school them watch u will see when we play the bills and miami
Oooooooo King of the loser team. Awesome.
 

ObsiWan

Hall of Fame
Contributor's Club
Give me a break....if Houston Texan fans were soft, this board wouldn't even be here, because people would've stopped watching Houston a LONG time ago.

This team could exactly take a note from their fans.
Maybe. Maybe some folks - and I ain't callin' no names - just like to have something to b!tch about. I have noticed some folks post a lot more after a loss than after a win.
...I'm just sayin'
 

Carr Bombed

Hall of Fame
Maybe. Maybe some folks - and I ain't callin' no names - just like to have something to b!tch about. I have noticed some folks post a lot more after a loss than after a win.
...I'm just sayin'
Go ahead and name names....

I just speak the truth, point out where what I'm saying isn't accurate.

I mean I'm sorry you're tired of the "bitching" LOL, but it's not like our team has given us alot to praise so far this season or in recent years. How about posting a winning season or even win games they should win.....I guarantee you things would get ALOT more positive around here.
 

Silver Oak

All Pro
Give me a break....if Houston Texan fans were soft, this board wouldn't even be here, because people would've stopped watching Houston a LONG time ago.

This team could exactly take a note from their fans.
I didn't hear one boo in Tennesse last week when those fans saw an underdog beating their team. Boo birds at Reliant are out early these days IMO.
 
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Ckw

Guest
I didn't hear one boo in Tennesse last week when those fans saw an underdog beating their team. Boo birds at Reliant are out early these days IMO.
I think we are just finally getting tired of watching the same crap. The boos didn't just start occurring because of one or two bad games; it has been due to seven full years of crap football.
 

Dishman

Miss Ya Blue
I think we are just finally getting tired of watching the same crap. The boos didn't just start occurring because of one or two bad games; it has been due to seven full years of crap football.
A few more home losses and the cumulative effect of the booing will result in Kubiak being chased out of town a la Tim Pupura.
 
Soft? Man come on! Our offense played well and Our D just needs to come together and they will. We easily could have won this game.
That's one of the issues with this team and the HC. Too many games we are saying we COULD have won it. They have to start winning them not just coulda won them. That was ok in the 1st and even 2nd seasons, but it's old. I'm not saying anything about their softness or lack of it. I just get tired of the "hey if this play happened or that play happened we could've won" mentality that I think some of the players have as well. That goes for every team (almost) in the NFL.
 

Carr Bombed

Hall of Fame
I didn't hear one boo in Tennesse last week when those fans saw an underdog beating their team. Boo birds at Reliant are out early these days IMO.
Well, you can't hear boos when it's a away game, but I find it hard to believe that Texan fans wouldn't be booing if they saw Chris Johnson rip their team a new one and run uncovered into the endzone early in that game.

There's a reason why Boo birds are out early these days, it's because the team has played like crap.....especially at home, that and fans are tired of losing year after year after year after year after year ect. $70 a ticket, they haver every right to boo.
 
We are not soft yall fail to releize this is a healthy JAgs team not the jags from last year

A divison game yall must not know these can go either way !!!!!!!!!!

do yall really think we will be able to sweep the jags colts and titans maybe one but not all 3
I'm not saying they should have swept them, but you should win on your own turf. You have to win division games at home. Jacksonville's offense didn't look good against Indy or Arizona (neither of which will be mistaken for the '86 Bears by the way). Our defense was awful against them.
 

Silver Oak

All Pro
Well, you can't hear boos when it's a away game, but I find it hard to believe that Texan fans wouldn't be booing if they saw Chris Johnson rip their team a new one and run uncovered into the endzone early in that game.

There's a reason why Boo birds are out early these days, it's because the team has played like crap.....especially at home, that and fans are tired of losing year after year after year after year after year ect. $70 a ticket, they haver every right to boo.
fans also have a right to stay home if they're that unhappy. I encourage them to do just that. wanting improvement is one thing, but some fans, and MB posters, are just filled with a rage not easy to understand.

it's as if they actually enjoy the bitching after a loss more than savoring a win. sick huh?
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
Winston need to turn to his team mates stay nose to nose with his team mates with "Let's go.......you and me...........right here.........right now!!!" In fact someone need to confront Kubiak, the coaches.......and even McNair with the same.
 

Carr Bombed

Hall of Fame
fans also have a right to stay home if they're that unhappy. I encourage them to do just that. wanting improvement is one thing, but some fans, and MB posters, are just filled with a rage not easy to understand.

it's as if they actually enjoy the bitching after a loss more than savoring a win. sick huh?
:rolleyes:

This is the NFL, not "pop rah rah" football where everybody gets a damn trophy. People cheer when they're given things to cheer about and complain when their team is playing like hammered dog crap and lead the league in some horrible categories.

If a fan pays a shitload of money for a ticket, they have every right to boo their ass off. Trust me, NOBODY ENJOYS going to a game and booing more than going to a game and watching their team win......that's just dumb.
 

Silver Oak

All Pro
:rolleyes:


If a fan pays a shitload of money for a ticket, they have every right to boo their ass off. Trust me, NOBODY ENJOYS going to a game and booing more than going to a game and watching their team win......that's just dumb.
based on the message board posts these past 3 weeks, there is a pattern of who posts, what they post, and how much they post.

my point is, if it's so terrible for these folks...just sell your tickets and stay home.

we all want improvement, but there is a segment who seems to really enjoy piling on more than others.
 

Carr Bombed

Hall of Fame
based on the message board posts these past 3 weeks, there is a pattern of who posts, what they post, and how much they post.

my point is, if it's so terrible for these folks...just sell your tickets and stay home.

we all want improvement, but there is a segment who seems to really enjoy piling on more than others.
All long as they're buying tickets I don't care. I bet Jacksonville would gladly take about 35,000 bitchy fans right now. If things keep on going the way that they are, something worse might happen......those "bitchy fans" might actually stay home.
 

Buffi2

Veteran
Soft? I don't think we are particularly soft - poorly coached? sometimes- poor draft/fa? I think so. Still not enough skilled players on defense - we need a good tackle, (actually, we need everyone to learn how to tackle), we certainly need a good secondary. I don't know how other coaches/GMs manage to get good players in a matter of a year or two - but Rick and Kubes need to check into that cuz what we are getting isn't working.

This great desire to have refined, intelligent defensive players may look great -but it is time for Plan B. We need some kind of 300 lb defender who lives for only two things - eat and hit people.
 

Tedc

Hardheaded
Winston need to turn to his team mates stay nose to nose with his team mates with "Let's go.......you and me...........right here.........right now!!!" In fact someone need to confront Kubiak, the coaches.......and even McNair with the same.
I am just not sure what to say. We all know we should be better, but are we?
 

imatexan

All Pro
Not sure why I waste my time reading Carr Bobmbed frustrated posts each week, they all start and end pretty much the same.
:headhurts:
 

Carr Bombed

Hall of Fame
Not sure why I waste my time reading Carr Bobmbed frustrated posts each week, they all start and end pretty much the same.
:headhurts:
Much like Houston's games huh...you know, being embarrassed with god awful defensive play...and making mediocre offenses look all world while surrendering about a gazillion rushing yards on the ground and giving up about 30 points a game. :headhurts: Yeah, it makes me cover my eyes too.

I know, I even get tired of repeating myself as well....I'd love nothing more than to have something positive to talk about, but as long as our defense sucks as bad as it does and as long as we look soft as hell. Positive topics are going to be few and far between.

Here's a few positives from the game though....Kevin Walter looks like he picked up where he left off last season? Owen Daniels looks like he's going to set a new career high in TD receptions, Schaub looks like he's going to have a probowl year (don't know if he'll get voted in on this team though) buuuuuttt.........that's about it. Oh and Steve Slaton looked better.....now that's about all the positives.
 

Double Barrel

Texans Talk Admin
Staff member
Contributor's Club
I don't know about "soft"...that's a perspective issue...but all I know is that I'm seeing a bunch of uninspired players playing unprepared on defense. Who/what/where the blame goes for that is up for debate, but the head coach needs to take charge of the situation soon if he wants to keep his job, IMO.
 

Carr Bombed

Hall of Fame
I don't know about "soft"...that's a perspective issue...but all I know is that I'm seeing a bunch of uninspired players playing unprepared on defense. Who/what/where the blame goes for that is up for debate, but the head coach needs to take charge of the situation soon if he wants to keep his job, IMO.
If you would've told me at the end of last season that our defense could actually get worse, I would've laughed in your face. Seriously did anybody ever think this defense could actaully get WORSE?

Frank Bush is making miss Richard Smith and that's extremely depressing.
 

RagingBull

Hall of Shame
Two years ago, San Francisco had a worse defense than us. We were 24 and they were 25 in total defense and in points per game, they were 20 and we were 22. This year while we are almost dead last in both categories, San Fran is 7 in total yards and 4 in points per game. Don't tell me a tough coach can't make a ton of difference. San Fran does not have much more talent than us on defense yet their guys play with fire. What I would give right now to have hired Singletary instead of Kubiak...
Weird. Last year Denver was 29th in total Defense, 27th in Rush Defense, and 26th in Pass Defense, and 30th in Points per game.

They hired the guy that couldn't get it done in San Fran (Mike Nolan), and lo and behold so far they are 1st in total Defense, 2nd in Pass Defense, 8th in Rush Defense, and 1st in points.

How do you explain that?
 
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