After further review...

[DerekLee1]

I've now seen the game live, and watched the DVR replay, and here are my comments on what I saw. Would love to hear other comments after many of you others have also had a chance to watch the tape.

1. Our secondary is awful, awful, awful. The safeties in particular, but our cornerbacks made mistake after mistake after mistake. They're never around the ball, and they can't tackle when the ball runs to THEM. Dunta Robinson flew all over the field, but he flew PAST plays and was on the ground when anything that mattered happened. An unacceptable performance from someone who wants Rick to pay him.

2. Steve Slaton may be a talented player, but he still doesn't seem to have learned the ZBS. He still follows blockers rather than splits the blockers. He dances around instead of making his one cut. He's great on screens and sweeps, though. Maybe Dominique Barber could switch to RB. He made a nice one-cut on his fumble recovery run.

3. Chris Brown is still a very good running back. Personally, I think HE should start and Slaton should be the 3rd down back unless Brown gets hurt and forces Slaton back into the starting role.

4. Shanahan and the offense need to figure out new ways to get Andre Johnson involved. Without Kevin Walter, AJ is the only receiver that can make plays. OD has reliable hands, but if you're having to rely on your tight end to carry your offense, then you're not going to rack up many yards.

5. Kubiak HAS to figure out ways to protect his quarterbacks, especially early on. Teams are blitzing early and often, and yet he insists on sticking to "the plan". Screen plays and short passes - especially slants over the middle, which I don't think are included in our arsenal - keep blitzing defenses honest. Yet the offensive plan still seems to always be run up the gut and then try a 15+ yard pass play. Repeat until you score or punt.

6. DeMeco Ryans is a stellar middle linebacker. Brian Cushing had a very good first game. Mario Williams is an absolute beast. Our front 4 did their jobs. Everyone else on the defense needs to learn how to tackle.

7. Kyle Shanahan forgot that we had Owen Daniels and Andre Johnson on our team.

8. Kubiak needs to allow his quarterbacks more flexibility. Allow them to read defenses and audible in reaction. I don't think I've ever seen a Texans quarterback make an audible in the Kubiak era. If they can't hear the play in the headset, they call timeouts. This IS a West Coast style offense, after all. Call a double slant or a crossing route when you see the blitz coming. Same with the receivers. When a play gets busted or covered well, nobody seems to be able to improvise and make something happen. Instead, the quarterback gets sacked. Don't these guys work on this in practice?

9. Frank Bush promised to get aggressive, but he got almost no pressure on Sanchez up the middle. At the game, it felt like they never even got close to him. Watching the replay, we actually got a LOT of pressure on him, but all of that pressure came from the outside. Flushing a mobile quarterback out of the pocket makes them dangerous. This strategy may work against, say Collins or Favre, but not against strong mobile guys like Flacco or McNabb. Or Sanchez. Our defense is good for two downs, and terrible on third downs.

10. The Jets defense is good. Very good.

 

[Goldensilence]

Agree on a lot of the points.

4,7, and 8 stuck out though.

We were totally uncreative in trying to find way to get our best play (AJ) the ball.

We were toally unpreapred or didn't seem to know how the handle blitz packages. Which is sad considering we've had all off-season to figure that out at least to an acceptable point.

Was disheartening to see to a rookie out there making hot reads on our team's blitzes and our QB unable to do so. Can't figure out for the life of me as well when you've got big bodies on the defensive front and you have a smaller atheltic line, go the the no huddle and make them big boys run. Again this staff still seems unable to make in game adjustments.

 

[Vinny]

Two things really stuck out to me. One blitz that Ryan used over and over was that blitz where Jenkins backed up like a Mike backer, and the buc and mac linebackers shot in and took on the Guards while Jenkins sprinted up behind them like a run away freight train. That blitz was designed to get Jenkins one on one with Myers or whomever didn't absorb the inside linebackers. You usually see teams run something like that once or twice and then the team they are using it against finds a way to stop it. The Texans never seemed to figure out how to stop it, and the Jets kept using it over and over. This blitz and a few other blitz packages pretty much told me that the Texans were thoroughly out coached yesterday.

The other thing that really, really stuck out to me was the fact that if you are going to blitz like crazy, you better have superior S play. We may have the worst tandem of starting S's in the NFL and there were times when a more experienced QB would have pressed downfield a bit more. I can see us giving up even more big plays going forward if we stay with our "more aggressive" blitz packages since we really don't have quality S play to clean up. One reason we didn't stop the Jets on 3rd down was the fact that we had to send an extra man, but when we did this, we not only didn't get to Sanchez then we couldn't cover well with the extra man blitzing. I like a more aggressive defense but if you don't get good S play then we better be prepared to give up tons of 3rd down conversions and many more long plays this season.

 

[DerekLee1]

Oh, and also on Schaub. I don't put this on his head at all. At the game, I thought he just looked "off". On watching the replay, he was just pummeled all day long, with pressure in his face on practically every single play. He had no TIME to get the ball anywhere. On most run plays, the Jets defense damn near could have taken the handoffs.

By the way, I FINALLY saw the kind of defense I wanted to see in Reliant Stadium. Only it was from the guys in green. Frank Bush, go to school. If you're going to promise pressure, bring the pressure like the Jets did. You could learn a lot from Buddy and Rex Ryan. Best pressure defenses in the history of the NFL.

 

[Vinny]

Oh, and also on Schaub. I don't put this on his head at all. At the game, I thought he just looked "off". On watching the replay, he was just pummeled all day long, with pressure in his face on practically every single play. He had no TIME to get the ball anywhere. On most run plays, the Jets defense damn near could have taken the handoffs.

By the way, I FINALLY saw the kind of defense I wanted to see in Reliant Stadium. Only it was from the guys in green. Frank Bush, go to school. If you're going to promise pressure, bring the pressure like the Jets did. You could learn a lot from Buddy and Rex Ryan. Best pressure defenses in the history of the NFL.

see my post above. Schaub was "off" because the Texans weren't prepared to handle what was thrown at them. Since Schaub got hurt by sideline chalk in the preseason he wasn't real mobile and the Texans never found a way to double Jenkins with Ryans blitz wrinkle designed to get him one on one with Meyers. I never saw an adjustment that forced them to stop doing this.

 

[Yankee_In_TX]

I've
5. Kubiak HAS to figure out ways to protect his quarterbacks, especially early on. Teams are blitzing early and often, and yet he insists on sticking to "the plan". Screen plays and short passes - especially slants over the middle, which I don't think are included in our arsenal - keep blitzing defenses honest. Yet the offensive plan still seems to always be run up the gut and then try a 15+ yard pass play. Repeat until you score or punt.

QFT. "Running to set up the pass" is the most made up concept EVER. What worked last year? Over the middle to OD, opening up Slaton to the run and AJ to the long bomb.

WTF are we back to run, run, run (-3 net) then throw?

 

[DerekLee1]

The other thing that really, really stuck out to me was the fact that if you are going to blitz like crazy, you better have superior S play. We may have the worst tandem of starting S's in the NFL and there were times when a more experienced QB would have pressed downfield a bit more. I can see us giving up even more big plays going forward if we stay with our "more aggressive" blitz packages since we really don't have quality S play to clean up. One reason we didn't stop the Jets on 3rd down was the fact that we had to send an extra man, but when we did this, we not only didn't get to Sanchez then we couldn't cover well with the extra man blitzing. I like a more aggressive defense but if you don't get good S play then we better be prepared to give up tons of 3rd down conversions and many more long plays this season.

This sounds SO much like Richard Smith's philosophies. Many of us fans have been saying for 8 seasons now how desperately we need a good safety. Good pressure on a QB, though, especially from the middle, can make even a weak secondary look very, very good.

 

[DerekLee1]

WTF are we back to run, run, run (-3 net) then throw?

It's like the Capers years all over again, eh Yankee? Run, run, run. Pass when 3rd and 10 or more.

 

[Cjeremy635]

see my post above. Schaub was "off" because the Texans weren't prepared to handle what was thrown at them. Since Schaub got hurt by sideline chalk in the preseason he wasn't real mobile and the Texans never found a way to double Jenkins with Ryans blitz wrinkle designed to get him one on one with Meyers. I never saw an adjustment that forced them to stop doing this.

I never saw an adjustment period! Hell, I never do. IIRC, that was one of the faults of the other regime as well. Other teams make sideline adjustments, or at halftime if nothing else.....us, not so much. Our coaching staff seems to not have answers for a lot of stuff.

 

[Goldensilence]

This sounds SO much like Richard Smith's philosophies. Many of us fans have been saying for 8 seasons now how desperately we need a good safety. Good pressure on a QB, though, especially from the middle, can make even a weak secondary look very, very good.

Disagree completely. I think pressure up the middle can help a secondary look better, but it's not going to make them look good.

I think a good secondary however, can give the front seven time to get to the CB which makes them look better. That extra second in coverage could mean the difference between a completion and a sack.

Overall the current staff has gotten this team to the point where they look like for the most part an NFL team with promising talent. However, their inability to utilize it or fill holes quickly is sinking the team as a whole.

I'm at a crossroads right now. Part of me hopes this team limps through the season so maybe we can get a new coach. Though and Herv points out I'm not suer so McNair will go for a proven guy, and we might see the same thing. The other part of me wants to just win badly, but again that means this staff sticks around. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

 

[nunusguy]

By the way, I FINALLY saw the kind of defense I wanted to see in Reliant Stadium. Only it was from the guys in green. Frank Bush, go to school. If you're going to promise pressure, bring the pressure like the Jets did. You could learn a lot from Buddy and Rex Ryan. Best pressure defenses in the history of the NFL.

I honestly don't think you can get that same kind of pressure from a 4-3 ?
I can't recall seeing a 4-3 generate the kind of pressure I've seen from the Steelers defense, or the Ravens, and yesterdays Jets 3-4 ?
BTW, if you saw the game last night Capers had the GB D all over Cutler. I dunno, why didn't our 3-4 look like that when Capers was here ?

 

[Vinny]

I honestly don't think you can get that same kind of pressure from a 4-3 ?

The Buddy Ryan Bears and the Steel Curtain would like to argue that point. There have been tons of dominant 4-3 defenses in the NFL...probably many more than 3-4 teams.

 

[Goldensilence]

I honestly don't think you can get that same kind of pressure from a 4-3 ?
I can't recall seeing a 4-3 generate the kind of pressure I've seen from the Steelers defense, or the Ravens, and yesterdays Jets 3-4 ?
BTW, if you saw the game last night Capers had the GB D all over Cutler. I dunno, why didn't our 3-4 look like that when Capers was here ?

Must've never seen a Giants or Eagles game. Even the Bears and Bucs a few years ago. Titans have a stout 4-3 as well (god it hurts saying that).

Said it last night Packers had a decent 4-3 before switching. What's key is they had a solid LBing corps to start with and a guy that was capable of playing NT, also got the gift of the draft's best NT in Raji.

Capers has been good at working with what he's got, long as he wasn't selecting talent for it.

 

[badboy]

1st round: best free safety
2nd round: best Defensive tackle
3rd round: best power back. No we ain't waiting for later round.
4th round: best corner back.
5th round: best offensive guard.
6th round: trade for a stronger, bigger center just in case Caldwell ain't the guy.
7th round: another linebacker to start

Free agency: Do NOT sign a defensive tackle!

 

[TexansSeminole]

Two things really stuck out to me. One blitz that Ryan used over and over was that blitz where Jenkins backed up like a Mike backer, and the buc and mac linebackers shot in and took on the Guards while Jenkins sprinted up behind them like a run away freight train. That blitz was designed to get Jenkins one on one with Myers or whomever didn't absorb the inside linebackers. You usually see teams run something like that once or twice and then the team they are using it against finds a way to stop it. The Texans never seemed to figure out how to stop it, and the Jets kept using it over and over. This blitz and a few other blitz packages pretty much told me that the Texans were thoroughly out coached yesterday.

The other thing that really, really stuck out to me was the fact that if you are going to blitz like crazy, you better have superior S play. We may have the worst tandem of starting S's in the NFL and there were times when a more experienced QB would have pressed downfield a bit more. I can see us giving up even more big plays going forward if we stay with our "more aggressive" blitz packages since we really don't have quality S play to clean up. One reason we didn't stop the Jets on 3rd down was the fact that we had to send an extra man, but when we did this, we not only didn't get to Sanchez then we couldn't cover well with the extra man blitzing. I like a more aggressive defense but if you don't get good S play then we better be prepared to give up tons of 3rd down conversions and many more long plays this season.

And our safety play has always been a problem. Why we don't go after one I have no idea. We have had years to do it.

 

[HOU-TEX]

This is kind of random and off-topic, but did anyone notice if Casey was even active?

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

Two things really stuck out to me. One blitz that Ryan used over and over was that blitz where Jenkins backed up like a Mike backer, and the buc and mac linebackers shot in and took on the Guards while Jenkins sprinted up behind them like a run away freight train. That blitz was designed to get Jenkins one on one with Myers or whomever didn't absorb the inside linebackers. You usually see teams run something like that once or twice and then the team they are using it against finds a way to stop it. The Texans never seemed to figure out how to stop it, and the Jets kept using it over and over. This blitz and a few other blitz packages pretty much told me that the Texans were thoroughly out coached yesterday.

The other thing that really, really stuck out to me was the fact that if you are going to blitz like crazy, you better have superior S play. We may have the worst tandem of starting S's in the NFL and there were times when a more experienced QB would have pressed downfield a bit more. I can see us giving up even more big plays going forward if we stay with our "more aggressive" blitz packages since we really don't have quality S play to clean up. One reason we didn't stop the Jets on 3rd down was the fact that we had to send an extra man, but when we did this, we not only didn't get to Sanchez then we couldn't cover well with the extra man blitzing. I like a more aggressive defense but if you don't get good S play then we better be prepared to give up tons of 3rd down conversions and many more long plays this season.

They wouldn't win a relay race either . Barber ran a 4.7 out of college ( Cushing ran a 4.67 ) and while speed isn't everything , it will make up for mistakes .

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

And our safety play has always been a problem. Why we don't go after one I have no idea. We have had years to do it.

I don't know being the Broncos had safety's like Dennis Smith and Steve Atwater .

Trivia time ... who were the other DB's who started in college with Smith and at what shool .

 

[ATXtexanfan]

Nice to see a quality thread fellas. So much to fix with this team.

 

[BSofA04]

This is kind of random and off-topic, but did anyone notice if Casey was even active?

He was on the kickoff return. At least that's when I noticed him. I'm sure he was on the other special teams.

 

[HoustonFrog]

He was on the kickoff return. At least that's when I noticed him. I'm sure he was on the other special teams.

5 plays overall..all special teams

 

[Spled]

The secondary looking clueless on third downs was the worst, but the second worse was our OL looking like kids playing against men. Maybe we need to put Sexy Rexy in if he's a better scrambler.

 

[Stemp]

The center (Myers?) need to learn how to block. I can't count the number of times he was slapped the turf and basically let the NT have a free shot at Schaub.

 

[m5kwatts]

The center (Myers?) need to learn how to block. I can't count the number of times he was slapped the turf and basically let the NT have a free shot at Schaub.

Pitts too, Chester was tossed around by Jenkins a few times and he's our heaviest lineman.

 

[Vinny]

The center (Myers?) need to learn how to block. I can't count the number of times he was slapped the turf and basically let the NT have a free shot at Schaub.

Pitts too, Chester was tossed around by Jenkins a few times and he's our heaviest lineman.

Jenkins demands a double team and most of the league knows it. What just blew my mind is that RRyan kept creating single team blocks by throwing exotic packages at the Texans and the Texans were not able to get a double on him....mainly because they weren't prepared for what they were looking at.

 

[m5kwatts]

Jenkins demands a double team and most of the league knows it. What just blew my mind is that RRyan kept creating single team blocks by throwing exotic packages at the Texans and the Texans were not able to get a double on him....mainly because they weren't prepared for what they were looking at.

You're not alone. I'm stunned at our lack of preparation. I could take losing that game if we looked competent in losing it. We looked like a Lions coached team yesterday.

 

[Fox]

Jenkins demands a double team and most of the league knows it. What just blew my mind is that RRyan kept creating single team blocks by throwing exotic packages at the Texans and the Texans were not able to get a double on him....mainly because they weren't prepared for what they were looking at.

Exactly. This was the most frustrating thing for me because as I've mentioned in other threads I do think we have the talent to compete, I just thought RR thoroughly out game planned and confused our offense. It was obvious to me that he out-coached our offensive guru, and Kubiak and Shanahan Jr. were absolutely clueless in how to counter it. It's especially depressing considering they knew the defense and the problems it posed to us from our experience vs. the Ravens last year and weren't able to do anything with an entire off-season to counter it.

Oh and by the by I just want to add to the review that Fred Bennett is horrible. Horrible. He constantly bites fakes and double moves, and he is the weakest tackler I've seen since Buchanon. Seriously. Pretty obvious why he's spent so much time on the bench the last couple years. I'd much prefer he rode it again this year and let the rookies go through their growing pains now.

 

[badboy]

Mark Vandermeer said this morning that one of the Jet coaches told Mark prior to the game that the Jets felt very sure that they would control this game in every aspect. Mark thought he was crazy but remembered the comment as the game progressed.

 

[Vinny]

Mark Vandermeer said this morning that one of the Jet coaches told Mark prior to the game that the Jets felt very sure that they would control this game in every aspect. Mark thought he was crazy but remembered the comment as the game progressed.

Vandermeer sips so much Kool Aide, he really doesn't have an honest opinion. He's their Corporate spin guy.

 

[badboy]

Vandermeer sips so much Kool Aide, he really doesn't have an honest opinion. He's their Corporate spin guy.

Agreed but at least he gets paid to be hopeful. That's more than I get. I actually thought we would win in a close game.

 

[TimeKiller]

I only watched at the game...I agree with everything you said but this is what I had a response to:

2. When blockers are split with defenders instead of having holes to run through then I'll start the Slaton criticisms. As for CBrown, maybe not starting but dude should definitely be getting a taste of the rock. 1/3 of the carries at least.

6. Agreed with everything except the line, they played awful defense from Mario to yes, Jeff "freaking" Zgonina.

8. Definitely. Schaub still hasn't had his brain beaten in so we may as well let him use it.

10. The Jets defense is good. Very good. Gods almost...

Kyle Shanahan needs to play some more Madden.

 

[bckey]

Jenkins demands a double team and most of the league knows it. What just blew my mind is that RRyan kept creating single team blocks by throwing exotic packages at the Texans and the Texans were not able to get a double on him....mainly because they weren't prepared for what they were looking at.

Little Shanny

 

[DerekLee1]

8. Kubiak needs to allow his quarterbacks more flexibility. Allow them to read defenses and audible in reaction. I don't think I've ever seen a Texans quarterback make an audible in the Kubiak era. If they can't hear the play in the headset, they call timeouts. This IS a West Coast style offense, after all. Call a double slant or a crossing route when you see the blitz coming. Same with the receivers. When a play gets busted or covered well, nobody seems to be able to improvise and make something happen. Instead, the quarterback gets sacked. Don't these guys work on this in practice?

Kubiak addressed exactly this point in the presser, and again on The Gary Kubiak Show. As I suspected, the quarterbacks are NOT allowed to freely change the play that is called. Instead, they have what he called "double plays" where if the original play isn't there, they go to the second option. The designed plays also allow for checkdowns. These are STANDARD though for ALL teams and virtually every play. I've coached flag leagues and designed plays that allow for options and checkdowns. But once that headset shuts off and the defense changes its look, the QB MUST be allowed to change things based on what he sees if it's obvious the called play will break down. I'd be insulted as a QB if my OC or HC didn't trust me to make adjustments.

Kubiak's justification for this, btw, was "we have confidence that we can execute what's called". That's just great. I've been a big Kubes supporter, but I'm starting to second-guess myself...

 

[El Tejano]

Can't figure out for the life of me as well when you've got big bodies on the defensive front and you have a smaller atheltic line, go the the no huddle and make them big boys run.

That's what Buffalo just did to New England and Wilfork. They scored a TD on their first possession.

 

[LonerATO]

That's what Buffalo just did to New England and Wilfork. They scored a TD on their first possession.

LOL was going to say the same thing and the fact that NE does a ton of blitzing

 

[thunderkyss]

QFT. "Running to set up the pass" is the most made up concept EVER. What worked last year? Over the middle to OD, opening up Slaton to the run and AJ to the long bomb.

WTF are we back to run, run, run (-3 net) then throw?

The Jets play calling on both sides of the ball was what won the game. They had us off balance from the opening kick-off.

I heard Kubiak on the 610 post game show, and he said Cotton's ankle didn't negate any kind of bootleg or moving pockets. Kubiak said we didn't boot because we couldn't run.

But for some reason that didn't stop the Jets from run faking the heck out of us. Thomas Jones had 13 carries for 14 yards going into the 4th Qtr. Washington had pretty much the same. But every time they faked the run, Recievers were wide open down field.

The Jets played the run almost as well as we did, except Chris Brown was actually making headway on third downs. They were just as aggressive as we were, but we didn't try to fake them. When we showed run, we ran. When we didn't show run, we didn't run.

They were throwing screens to every other person on their offense, They put Leon Washington in the Wildcat (Minnesota also has a rookie in their Wildcat). They faked the toss to one side, then toss it to the other. They ran the end around.

We didn't.

& defensively.... they kept overloading with LBs again, and again, and again. Sending them up the middle, attacking the weakside... But for some reason, none of our guys were ever open enough for Schaub.. he didn't see many of them coming.. Matt Schaub didn't beat one blitz yesterday. You would think a franchise QB could beat a blitz every once & a while. At least I do.

Surely we have some mechanism to identify blitzers & hot routes. I know we can't audible, but surely we work on hot routes... I mean it's apparent that we don't, but surely we do..... right?

 

[thunderkyss]

Kubiak's justification for this, btw, was "we have confidence that we can execute what's called". That's just great. I've been a big Kubes supporter, but I'm starting to second-guess myself...

I wish someone had the balls to ask him where in the heck is this confidence coming from.

 

[DocBar]

Th big things I noticed were coaching, OL play, secondary and LB play. Enough has been said about coaching.
The interior OL is just flat out incapable of stopping big DT's. Pitts, Meyers and Brisiel were so overmatched, it was disgusting. On one play in the 2nd, Jenkins head swatted Pitts INTO Brown and took them both out of the play then went on to make Schaub throw the ball away. We can't win in this league with an OL like that.
The Lbs were horrible in coverage and missing tackles. Same goes for the secondary. Sorry for the post being cut short. Have to tend to my daughter.

 

[thunderkyss]

On one play in the 2nd, Jenkins head swatted Pitts INTO Brown and took them both out of the play then went on to make Schaub throw the ball away.

I'm glad someone other than me said this.

Pitts is a fan favorite, and for the longest time he's been considered our best. Problem is, just like Dunta... our best wasn't very good.

It's time to move on from Pitts. Put Caldwell in there. He can't be any worse, and if we can get away with starting Brown as a rookie, we should be fine starting Caldwell.

I understand Myers isn't huge (like Saturday & Mawae), but IMHO, we need more of our OL playing Kubiak's way before we can replace him or Briesel.

Pitts isn't playing Kubiak ball anyway, go ahead and get him out of there. Then we'd have three guys who know how to block downfield. Replace Myers or Briesel, and you're still at two.

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

The Jets play calling on both sides of the ball was what won the game. They had us off balance from the opening kick-off.

I heard Kubiak on the 610 post game show, and he said Cotton's ankle didn't negate any kind of bootleg or moving pockets. Kubiak said we didn't boot because we couldn't run.

But for some reason that didn't stop the Jets from run faking the heck out of us. Thomas Jones had 13 carries for 14 yards going into the 4th Qtr. Washington had pretty much the same. But every time they faked the run, Recievers were wide open down field.

The Jets played the run almost as well as we did, except Chris Brown was actually making headway on third downs. They were just as aggressive as we were, but we didn't try to fake them. When we showed run, we ran. When we didn't show run, we didn't run.

They were throwing screens to every other person on their offense, They put Leon Washington in the Wildcat (Minnesota also has a rookie in their Wildcat). They faked the toss to one side, then toss it to the other. They ran the end around.

We didn't.

& defensively.... they kept overloading with LBs again, and again, and again. Sending them up the middle, attacking the weakside... But for some reason, none of our guys were ever open enough for Schaub.. he didn't see many of them coming.. Matt Schaub didn't beat one blitz yesterday. You would think a franchise QB could beat a blitz every once & a while. At least I do.

Surely we have some mechanism to identify blitzers & hot routes. I know we can't audible, but surely we work on hot routes... I mean it's apparent that we don't, but surely we do..... right?

Early in the game , on 3rd and long , you just knew they weren't going to put Sanchez in a position to make a mistake . You knew they were going to play it safe and go for field position but they kept converting on screens and such . I think it surprised them to be honest .

 

[TexanBacker93]

One area where I think this team gets hurt on both sides of the ball is pressure from the middle. The Jets did it very well and we couldn't. The Texans rely upon their edge rushers and Sanchez had the presence to step into the pocket and make throws. The more physical defenses push our weak interior line back giving Schaub nowhere to go.

 

[jppaul]

1st round: best free safety
2nd round: best Defensive tackle
3rd round: best power back. No we ain't waiting for later round.
4th round: best corner back.
5th round: best offensive guard.
6th round: trade for a stronger, bigger center just in case Caldwell ain't the guy.
7th round: another linebacker to start

Free agency: Do NOT sign a defensive tackle!

I would sell out my first three picks to get Taylor Mays if we weren't (at this rate anyway) going to end up in the top 5 anyway.

 

[New_Texans]

The Jets play calling on both sides of the ball was what won the game. They had us off balance from the opening kick-off.

I heard Kubiak on the 610 post game show, and he said Cotton's ankle didn't negate any kind of bootleg or moving pockets. Kubiak said we didn't boot because we couldn't run.

But for some reason that didn't stop the Jets from run faking the heck out of us. Thomas Jones had 13 carries for 14 yards going into the 4th Qtr. Washington had pretty much the same. But every time they faked the run, Recievers were wide open down field.

The Jets played the run almost as well as we did, except Chris Brown was actually making headway on third downs. They were just as aggressive as we were, but we didn't try to fake them. When we showed run, we ran. When we didn't show run, we didn't run.

They were throwing screens to every other person on their offense, They put Leon Washington in the Wildcat (Minnesota also has a rookie in their Wildcat). They faked the toss to one side, then toss it to the other. They ran the end around.

We didn't.

& defensively.... they kept overloading with LBs again, and again, and again. Sending them up the middle, attacking the weakside... But for some reason, none of our guys were ever open enough for Schaub.. he didn't see many of them coming.. Matt Schaub didn't beat one blitz yesterday. You would think a franchise QB could beat a blitz every once & a while. At least I do.

Surely we have some mechanism to identify blitzers & hot routes. I know we can't audible, but surely we work on hot routes... I mean it's apparent that we don't, but surely we do..... right?

He did, Slaton just happened to fumble the ball and there went that kind of play for the rest of the game. Kubiak and Kyle completely abandoned one of the things that was actually working for the offense in throwing to the backs...Leech had a good gain along with Slaton until the fumble.

 

[Norg]

More passes to leech that seemed to work LOL

i also think we should of gave chris brown more touches

 

[FR0497]

I've been thinking about point #5 since halftime Sunday. We were very predictable the whole game. Here's to hoping the coaches get their head out of their *** this coming Sunday.

And Kubiak needs to let Schaub audible and put long snap counts in to see where the blitz is coming from. These idiots are constantly putting in plays that are taking way too long to develop when the defense is blitzing more than we can block. And what's even more ridiculous is the coaches did this the WHOLE game.

 

[Carr Bombed]

I've been thinking about point #5 since halftime Sunday. We were very predictable the whole game. Here's to hoping the coaches get their head out of their *** this coming Sunday.

And Kubiak needs to let Schaub audible and put long snap counts in to see where the blitz is coming from. These idiots are constantly putting in plays that are taking way too long to develop when the defense is blitzing more than we can block. And what's even more ridiculous is the coaches did this the WHOLE game.

Wrong...

The reason why the Jets were blitzing was because we never established a running game....it had nothing to do with the play call. If Houston can run the ball (If Slaton can lose 20 pounds) you'll see the passing game open up.

 

[DerekLee1]

I would sell out my first three picks to get Taylor Mays if we weren't (at this rate anyway) going to end up in the top 5 anyway.

You could trade your first and 3rd to move up high enough to get him. Then try something fancy packaged with your 2nd to move back into the 1st and get a real ZBS running back.

 

[DerekLee1]

One more thing that makes me question Kubiak. When we had the Jets at 4th and 2 with 23 seconds to go in the half, WHY would you not call a time out? That forces them to punt the ball. Instead, he lets the clock wind down, the Jets call time out with 2 seconds left, and know they can try a hail mary pass because time will have run out. You can't do that with 23 seconds because an incomplete pass allows the Texans to take over with good enough field position to take a couple of shots downfield, or to try to get into field goal range.

Kubes was asked about this on his afternoon show yesterday, and his response was, "I just didn't see a reason to call a timeout there". ??????????

 

[TheCD]

I'm starting to come around to us eventually changing back to a 3-4 at some point (even though our previous efforts make me nervous to do so), but my main concern is...

How would Mario fit into and be used in a 3-4 defense? I'm not sure he would fit a typical 3-4 DE, and I don't know how he'd fit into a LB.

 

[FR0497]

Wrong...

The reason why the Jets were blitzing was because we never established a running game....it had nothing to do with the play call. If Houston can run the ball (If Slaton can lose 20 pounds) you'll see the passing game open up.

I never blamed our play calling as to why the Jets were blitzing. I was simply stating that WHEN the Jets were blitzing over and over and over, we didn't run any quick passing routes or screens. The Jets also had no running game going at all but their passing game was open all day.