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Palmer "not pleased" with stalled Carr
- Thread starter Vinny
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I actually caught some of that Giants game when Carr was playing, and dude still has "happy feet" in the pocket. He never seems to settle down to make his reads, and yep, he used the dump pass quite a bit.
Blazing Arrow
Work'n da grill
He is having flashbacks of playing in Houston and thinks the second the line breaks down even in the slightest he better get out. If Manning goes down the NY crowd will eat Carr alive.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Was he still wearing his "mittens"?
y'know, I didn't even notice. I was too busy being hypnotized by those happy feet of his.
This one made me laugh:
Blazing Arrow
Work'n da grill
He has a cannon ... as long as the receiver is within 3 yards of the line of scrimmage. How can anyone knowingly say they are a Carr fan? What has he EVER done to earn fans?
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
His regression is anything BUT surprising. For those of you that might have watched the game, if you squinted just right, you would have sworn that you were watching the OL of the Texans of old. They certainly borrow their "olay" technique, giving the QB's virtually no pass protection. Given familiar sequences, this brought back haunting childhood memories and reverted Carr to his reflex childhood responses. Sometimes one can never shake their childhood post-traumatic syndrome (in his case, 249 sacks). Carr most likely never be able to "grow up" to become a QB............a real NFL QB........under fire.
I have to give Hulk75 his props because through it all, he always has David's back.
Livid13
Waterboy
lol, just shocking.
Let me preface this by stating ONCE AGAIN, I was against drafting Carr with the 1st pick. Having said that, can you blame the guy for being gun shy when the pocket collapses? I mean, it's a miracle he doesn't have a visual, nervous, tick !
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
Carr sucks and set this franchise back five years. The best thing about Carr is that the franchise knows what bad looks like. Our offensive line improved immensely when he was not in the line up.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
The title of this thread is funny as hell.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
Carr never had any pocket awareness and that is one key ingredient to being a NFL QB. He is Rob Johnson with better hair. Sure, they both would play better with better hair, I mean better O-lines, but they would both eventually sack themselves in critical situations. If the NFL network had a list of incredible self-sacking QB's with bangin' hair, David Carr and Rob Johnson would be one - two.
Interestingly, Palmer has a thing for incredible self-sacking QB's apparently. Yes, the 3rd guy on the right is Rob "I sacks myself" Johnson.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
I really would love to see Carr get a shot to start this season for like two games in the middle of division race in like week 10 or something like that.
I just want to see how the NY media reacts to the play of David Carr. Sorry, but I just want to see the train wreck in NY.
I just want to see how the NY media reacts to the play of David Carr. Sorry, but I just want to see the train wreck in NY.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
Carr never had any pocket awareness and that is one key ingredient to being a NFL QB. He is Rob Johnson with better hair. Sure, they both would play better with better hair, I mean better O-lines, but they would both eventually sack themselves in critical situations. If the NFL network had a list of incredible self-sacking QB's with bangin' hair, David Carr and Rob Johnson would be one - two.
Interestingly, Palmer has a thing for incredible self-sacking QB's apparently. Yes, the 3rd guy on the right is Rob "I sacks myself" Johnson.
They both had that California cool also .
Livid13
Waterboy
YEAH and if Tony Boselli was healthy and pigs could fly......the guy's shot and I hear what you're saying Vinny. He blew chunks, BUT had HORRID protection, end of story. YES, he held onto the ball too long and YES he had no pocket presence, but my God, cut the guy some slack. It wasn't like he was Ryan Leaf......maybe!
GP
Go Texans!
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Sometimes you can take an opposing stance on a topic, and sometimes you need to accept the idea that maybe the herd has it right.
This is a topic that only has one logical and factual conclusion: The guy stinks.
When you can't read a defense (pre-snap AND during the play itself) you are going to make any oline look bad. There's a reason he always dumps it to the RB or WR or TE who is near the oline: He can't see plays developing further down the field, and if he tries to...he loses awareness around him and gets clobbered because he took longer than the average NFL QB does.
Which leads to the dump-offs right off the bat, without even going through progressions. Or running out of bounds. Or taking a knee.
What oline is going to block for THAT? It's a waste of energy for those guys, and they see it as a no-win situation.
David Carr makes teams worse when he's in at QB.
It really is just that simple.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
The only thing he ever did to earn fans was cause attention to his hair. The women loved that thing with him. That's all he ever did, but it wasn't even football related.
Texan4Ever
All Pro
Maybe I'm wrong but players who have played BAD for a few years continue to suck. What I mean is that, take for example David Carr, having played for a horrible Texans team before the Kubiak era, I think Carr is still nervous about getting sacked regardless of what team he plays for. Being beaten down and booed for so many years I think it has to do with mental confidence, which is why he struggles.
Alex Smith, another QB, went through many OC and now after sucking all these years he continues to do what he knows best...SUCK!
Alex Smith, another QB, went through many OC and now after sucking all these years he continues to do what he knows best...SUCK!
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drewmar74
disgruntled
lmao
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
Maybe I'm wrong but players who have played BAD for a few years continue to suck. What I mean is that, take for example David Carr, having played for a horrible Texans team before the Kubiak era, I think Carr is still nervous about getting sacked regardless of what team he plays for. Being beaten down and booed for so many years I think it has to do with mental confidence, which is why he struggles.
Alex Smith, another QB, went through many OC and now after sucking all these years he continues to do what he knows best...SUCK!
The problem I have with hearing he was beaten down and never recovered is that guys like Troy Aikman, Steve Young and others got the snot beat out of them for their first years...the 1-16 season was brutal for Troy and Young in TB. Yet they came around. To me he never had the NFL skills and the sitution made it that much more apparent.
JDizzle
I'm a dude
Does he even want to be? It's interesting how he picks teams where there's no glaring need for a starting QB. After Carolina nobody may have been interested in him as a starter but after we clipped him I would have a hard time believing there weren't 2-3 teams that were interested, yet he picked Carolina where there was no doubt who the starter was.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Maybe Palmer can get $4,500 in the Cash for Clunkers program... 
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
David Carr is a model, not a football player.
He should just seriously retire and try a career modeling somewhere or something. he could probably have a much better career at it, rather than football where he's probably getting paid league minimum now days.
He should just seriously retire and try a career modeling somewhere or something. he could probably have a much better career at it, rather than football where he's probably getting paid league minimum now days.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Sadly he is not playing for league minimum. He is on a 1 year $2.1 mil contract.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
I don't know about you but I swear I've always looked at him and Harrington as brothers. Nice looking guys who came out the same year that both went to terrible teams and both played terrible and continue to wherever they go. It's been like they're both long lost brothers or something. If the Texans had never drafted Carr it would have been Harrington most likely.
They should start a business together instead of playing football.
GP
Go Texans!
I wanted to give him one more year (with Kubiak) just to see if it was the coaching, the line, Carr, etc.
Cheerleader isn't a very good descriptor. I did give him more chances than others did, but the last season (within the first few games) it was obvious to even someone as slow as me.
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Hervoyel
BUENO!
The only thing I want out of David Carr is this
If David Carr ever gets the urge to try and make up for his suck career and the 5 years he set the Houston Texans back then this is what needs to take place.
Find a way to get to Possum Holler, unseat Kerry Collins (Vince won't be a problem, he's pretty much worse than Carr was at this point) and put a smile on my face when you get sacked for a change David!
If David Carr ever gets the urge to try and make up for his suck career and the 5 years he set the Houston Texans back then this is what needs to take place.
Find a way to get to Possum Holler, unseat Kerry Collins (Vince won't be a problem, he's pretty much worse than Carr was at this point) and put a smile on my face when you get sacked for a change David!
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
The only thing I want out of David Carr is this
If David Carr ever gets the urge to try and make up for his suck career and the 5 years he set the Houston Texans back then this is what needs to take place.
Find a way to get to Possum Holler, unseat Kerry Collins (Vince won't be a problem, he's pretty much worse than Carr was at this point) and put a smile on my face when you get sacked for a change David!
Oh man Herv!!.... That was worthy of a snot rocket! Rep if I could.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
The way I see it David Carr owes us for about half those unbelievable 249 sacks he supposedly took because everybody else on the team sucked. Hell he helped make Albert Haynesworth and Dwight Freeney legends in their own time. The least he could would be to help Mario Williams and Conner Barwin along.
Texan4Ever said:
Take the massively sucky Carr away from Capers 7-9 team and replace him with last year's Schaub/Sage combo, and the Texans wouldn't still be looking for their first winning team. I don't think that team was horrible; I think it was average with a millstone at QB.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
The only thing I want out of David Carr is this
If David Carr ever gets the urge to try and make up for his suck career and the 5 years he set the Houston Texans back then this is what needs to take place.
Find a way to get to Possum Holler, unseat Kerry Collins (Vince won't be a problem, he's pretty much worse than Carr was at this point) and put a smile on my face when you get sacked for a change David!
This or the Cowboys!!
Hervoyel
BUENO!
This or the Cowboys!!
Yeah but he'd never unseat Romo. He could always have Hulk75 slip Collins a case of Jack Daniels at the right moment and put him out of commission and like I said it's not like Vince is going to put up much of a fight. Tennessee would be the perfect storm if he could just find a way to trick Bud into thinking it would make Texans fans mad. He'd be on the field in no time.
Blazing Arrow
Work'n da grill
The only thing I want out of David Carr is this
If David Carr ever gets the urge to try and make up for his suck career and the 5 years he set the Houston Texans back then this is what needs to take place.
Find a way to get to Possum Holler, unseat Kerry Collins (Vince won't be a problem, he's pretty much worse than Carr was at this point) and put a smile on my face when you get sacked for a change David!
The only chance Carr has of seeing the Tennessee field again is if his face is burried in it.
Livid13
Waterboy
really ?
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
Yes really.
wow, a Carr-apologist sighting. I haven't seen one of those in years! 
wow, a Carr-apologist sighting. I haven't seen one of those in years!
LOL GP finally came around however I remember us going at it a few times in Carr threads. Of course I was a "hater".
But hey, I am no better. I thought the Texans should have dumped him and had a sausage party errr drafted Vince Young. (I was right about Reggie Bush though!)
I know gr8fan doesn't post anymore however he never liked Carr. To his credit he was saying Carr wouldn't pan out either in the first or second season. He kept saying that Carr was sacking himself and the O line was getting a bad rap. I didn't see the light until the 2004 season.
GP
Go Texans!
LOL. Yes we did.
I also went at it with Thunderkyss on an issue that I can't even remember, though I am sure it is tied to David Carr somehow. I always like discussing things with TK because the guy doesn't get uptight and is just generally fun to talk football with.
Unlike Hook 'Em who thinks he owns this board. [/digattheowner]
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
LOL. Yes we did.
I also went at it with Thunderkyss on an issue that I can't even remember, though I am sure it is tied to David Carr somehow. I always like discussing things with TK because the guy doesn't get uptight and is just generally fun to talk football with.
Unlike Hook 'Em who thinks he owns this board. [/digattheowner]
Hulk wanted to meet me somewhere , to explain things .