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Texans to shop Jacoby Jones for a pick?
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Ole Miss Texan
Hall of Fame
Supply and demand. This draft is loaded with WR talent. He was selected in the 3rd round as a young, inexperienced WR with a lot of upside... he was a project. Doesn't look like we want to finish the project, will another team? If so what would they be willing to give up... 3rd, 4th, 5th?
There are some teams that could use WR help but I can't see Jacoby getting traded before draft day unless its for something low. Smart move for teams in need would be to see how the draft plays out. Maybe it could turn into a draft day trade... we should be talking to some teams at the Combine. If their WR gets selected and we see a player we want dropping maybe a deal gets done.
I'd be more than supportive of this. One thing's for sure... he's gonna make Kubiak grow some gray hairs if he stays around.
There are some teams that could use WR help but I can't see Jacoby getting traded before draft day unless its for something low. Smart move for teams in need would be to see how the draft plays out. Maybe it could turn into a draft day trade... we should be talking to some teams at the Combine. If their WR gets selected and we see a player we want dropping maybe a deal gets done.
I'd be more than supportive of this. One thing's for sure... he's gonna make Kubiak grow some gray hairs if he stays around.
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texanfan2002114
Veteran
According to Bob Allen on channel 13 tonight. He said that Jacoby Jones days are numbered and the Texans are looking to move him before the draft and get a draft pick for him. Bob Allen said they Texans are tired of his fumbling problem and his maturity. Also they know he won't break the top 4 WR on this team.
Sorry, no link to this. Like I said, I saw this on the news tonight.
Sorry, no link to this. Like I said, I saw this on the news tonight.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
I'm mixed on this decision but I'm thrilled to see the team making moves and decisions with such conviction. It seems clear that they have an agenda and it's about to be worked out!
awtysst
Draft Guru
He is a really tough one to figure out. He can make a huge play and be great one day and then fumble the next. He is too streaky. Looking at what we could have done, there were not a lot of better options. The player I liked, Jason Hill hasn't done a whole lot in his nfl career, so...
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
If they can get a 5th round pick for him in this deep of a draft, I'd consider that a reasonable deal. Boy, he and Jerome Mathis are really following similar career paths, huh.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
JJ had some very good moments, though he's had worse ones that overshadow his accomplishments...I do get tired of holding my breath when the opposing team punts the ball....
Here's my chant that I yell over and over during every single punt return:
"don't fumble, don't fumble, don't fumble, don't fumble, hold on to it!"
I kept hoping JJ would grow up this year, but that doesn't appear to be happening any time soon. Really too bad - he had such promise. This is probably a pretty good move as with JJ, you just never know what you are going to get at any given punt. I got nervous every time he walked on the field.
Señor Stan
El Guapo
fixed it for you
awtysst
Draft Guru
I can't tell if this is sarcastic, so I will treat it as if it is not. He is an all or nothing kind of returner: big return or dancing/fumbling. How many times have we cowered if there was a punt. I know I have been terrified of hom dropping the ball on the ground.
Kimmy
RealGirls LvFB!
Me too, but it is a little scary! I almost feel like we are going backwards. I understand starting fresh, but when Im reading Sage, Weaver, Jones ... yikes!
They obviously have a plan that they are not sharing with us (the NERVE!), the cap money being freed up sure does make one wonder
texanfan2002114
Veteran
I can't agree with you more!! He scares the hell out of me when he is back there as a punt returner and if he can't beat out a 7th round draft pick in David Anderson, then its time to move on!
awtysst
Draft Guru
Come on guys. It's clear now. They are for sure drafting Maclin. Can't believe nobody has made the connection.
Can you say Quan Cosby in the 6th or 7th?!
Ole Miss Texan
Hall of Fame
Come on guys. It's clear now. They are for sure drafting Maclin. Can't believe nobody has made the connection.
If something goes down, Maclin's value definitely just skyrocketed for us. I really really want to solidify our Defense but I'd take the pick of Maclin. I heard he hyperextended his knee today. Is that true? If so, I don't know the longterm effects or recovery time but It sounds somewhat serious.
At the minimum I would say 4 +
It is probably more with what he is not doing or doing behind the scenes. He has went from a preseason hyped rookie who had a clear path to the number 2 job, to a KO returner who barely lines up at WR at all. Teams don't sour on a guy in a couple of years unless he gives them reason.
stingray
Hall of Fame
Texans34Life
I BLEED TEXANS!
Man, he had such potential. I hope we can get something good in return for his immaturity and carelessness.
Im going to go out and say I hope they keep him around. I dont know what hes like behind the scenes, but the guy obviously has potential. His immaturity and carelessness are what our coaches should be correcting.
Sometimes players just don't have what it takes. Jacoby obviously does, if he can get past the mental stuff. This reflects poorly on our coaching, in my opinion.
The guys cap figure this season is only 650,000, meaning we're only freeing up about 200,000 bucks in cap room by cutting him. He's not a hindrance to the team (as far as I can tell). Wait until preseason and see if a year of offseason gets him to grow up
Sometimes players just don't have what it takes. Jacoby obviously does, if he can get past the mental stuff. This reflects poorly on our coaching, in my opinion.
The guys cap figure this season is only 650,000, meaning we're only freeing up about 200,000 bucks in cap room by cutting him. He's not a hindrance to the team (as far as I can tell). Wait until preseason and see if a year of offseason gets him to grow up
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Muffs are turnovers but don't count as fumbles. A muff is when a returner touches the ball but never gains control of it... The ball becomes live and the opposing team can recover but not advance the ball. I can count 4 oozing stomach ulcers that are direct results of his muffs. Ulcers aren't yet an official stat, by the way.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
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even though I love them, I'm not sure if they are one word or two? huh?
even though I love them, I'm not sure if they are one word or two? huh?
stingray
Hall of Fame
If I were to guess he would garner a 6th or 7th conditional 2010 pick, anything more the Texans would be lucky. Remember the rest of the league is looking at the same draft we are.
I don't have a problem waiting to see if he grows up since he does have potential. But, often, immaturity also translates into thinking you know better than anyone else which translates into uncoachable. Can't coach someone who won't listen and if that is, in fact, the problem then JJ should go.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
I sure can.
awtysst
Draft Guru
This also might be a situation where the team is trying to send a message to him. Get your head in the game or we cut you. His name is not AJ, DR, or MW. He is expendable or could be traded. He is simply not that special.
stingray
Hall of Fame
He probably won the miami game for us because he changed the momentum with his kickoff for a td. I think the Texans would have been dead in the water if not for that.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
I think Weaver may have helped us beat Cleveland with an interception. For both of them I say, "thank you, and goodbye"!
Regarding JJ, I can certainly list some games he affected in a very detrimental way, starting with at Tennessee in '07!
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
Me too, but it is a little scary! I almost feel like we are going backwards. I understand starting fresh, but when Im reading Sage, Weaver, Jones ... yikes!
They obviously have a plan that they are not sharing with us (the NERVE!), the cap money being freed up sure does make one wonder
How is it going backwards when you get rid of Weaver who's production amounts to almost nothing since he has been here. Sage is not going to start and he is going to be unhappy being a backup so might as well get rid of him and get a pick. Jones is the question mark here. He has shown sparks but he has also shown that he lacks discipline and concentration.
TexanSam
Hall of Fame
I see the pluses and minuses of keeping him or trading him. He's obviously got talent but will he ever be able to put it all together. All we see is snippets here and there and even then it's just as a punt/kick returner.
I won't be too disappointed if he's traded though. His fumbles/muffed catches got really annoying but I would miss the potential of him possibly scoring a TD anytime he gets the ball.
I won't be too disappointed if he's traded though. His fumbles/muffed catches got really annoying but I would miss the potential of him possibly scoring a TD anytime he gets the ball.
WesmanTexanfan
SeNior Smack
nm.....
eriadoc
Texan-American
Who's that quick cat out of Abilene Christian thats a WR...ran a 4.3 somethin' Sat....nice target to snag....
Johnny Knox, I believe. Awesome name, too.
Kimmy
RealGirls LvFB!
Agreed on all points - what I meant was .... We will have a heavily loaded rookie and possibly FA field. Thats what scrares me a little, starting fresh... again. BUT I am glad they found their balls and using them instead of scratching them!
rarazz00
VOLUME 10
mexican_texan
Furry Tractors
I think we have his replacement already on the roster. Ladies and gents, meet Darnell Jenkins:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCWtizMV6Xc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCWtizMV6Xc
Come on guys. It's clear now. They are for sure drafting Maclin. Can't believe nobody has made the connection.
What are we, the Detroit Lions.......
I beg of Rick Smith Defense please, Defense!!!!!!!
DiehardChris
You betcha!
What he said.
...and this has zero impact on Maclin's value to the Texans. We're talking about our #4 WR here! Jenkins can return and he couldn't do any WORSE than JJ as a WR - not to mention there will be late round draft options and UDFAs out there who can return.
JJ's value is very low because he has little to NO value as a WR... closer to "no."
Not to mention the DUI/DWI. That didn't go over to well.
Especially this year, it's one of the best classes in a while. I would have liked to have seen Weaver traded to a 3-4 Team, obvioulsey he would have had to restructure his contract.
It's uprising that the negative tone from the front office, it seems like it would affect trade value. Also they must be pretty determined if they let this get out the way they did.