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Future of Texans QB

Yankee_In_TX said:
Hey, is VY available?

:stirpot
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Now, now...there's no reason to go jumping off THAT particular bridge.

(Besides, after hearing Sage's post-game "whine" yesterday, we only have room for ONE whiny QB at a time). Mr. "I can't do it all myself" better watch more tape of his interceptions before he starts laying blame at too many other doorsteps.
 
I heard Jeff garcia is open in the OS

K Collins sad this was his last year

there will be many options imo after the year but knowing Kubes hes keeping ol MAtty

so we can stop talking about all this
 
Alright, since you started this thread - perhaps shoot up a poll 'cause I was thinking about this.... and not sure of the answer. Concerning the QB position and based off the WEALTH of knowledge we've acquired since the HWSNBM "led" the team... what would you do this offseason? I think Schaub's option kicks in at the end of this season, or something like that - correct?

1. Keep the QB roles as is - that postition is ultimately not the team's issue, or at least immediate need.

2. Keep Matt, drop Sage. Bring up the other backups to #2 and #3.

3. Keep Matt, drop Sage... drop a #3 or 4 as well and look in the draft.

4. Drop Matt, keep Sage and do the same as #2 or 3 above.

5. Drop both, possibly bring up a #3 or 4 for backup or start and look into draft.

6. Other?

By "dropping" it's either shop em for a potential pick (if possible) or if it leads to it just cut bait. I'm thinking the 3rd option is going to be what happens.
 
OzzO said:
Alright, since you started this thread - perhaps shoot up a poll 'cause I was thinking about this.... and not sure of the answer. Concerning the QB position and based off the WEALTH of knowledge we've acquired since the HWSNBM "led" the team... what would you do this offseason? I think Schaub's option kicks in at the end of this season, or something like that - correct?

1. Keep the QB roles as is - that postition is ultimately not the team's issue, or at least immediate need.

2. Keep Matt, drop Sage. Bring up the other backups to #2 and #3.

3. Keep Matt, drop Sage... drop a #3 or 4 as well and look in the draft.

4. Drop Matt, keep Sage and do the same as #2 or 3 above.

5. Drop both, possibly bring up a #3 or 4 for backup or start and look into draft.

6. Other?

By "dropping" it's either shop em for a potential pick (if possible) or if it leads to it just cut bait. I'm thinking the 3rd option is going to be what happens.
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Please don't use the word "drop" or "pass" anywhere in the same sentence with our QBs. It only leads to turnovers which is probably what we should do with them. A complete turnover.
 
our 3 and 4 right now are

Craig Nall & Alex Brink

do u really want to live and die on thoes guyz ....
 
Nope, that's why I'm thinking #3 option is going to happen.

... oh, Tedc - I never used "pass" in a sentence with the QB.
:tiphat:
 
Hey, Jeff George is still available!

JEFF GEORGE STILL WANTS TO PLAY
Posted by Michael David Smith on November 10, 2008, 2:00 p.m.
Any general managers out there shopping for a veteran backup quarterback, Jeff George would like to speak with you.

George, the 40-year-old who last threw an NFL pass in 2001, has reiterated that he still believes he can contribute to an NFL team.

“I find it hard to believe there isn’t a place in the game for me. My arm feels like I’m 25,” George said on Sirius NFL Radio, per Peter King of SI.com. “I’m not asking to be a starter, I just want a spot on a team. I still hold out hope I can play in this league. I’m working out three or four days a week, staying ready. Some people might laugh about it. I’ve been hearing the excuse, ‘You’re too old,’ but I look at guys now playing near 40, and if you can throw it like I can throw it … Why wouldn’t you take a look at me?”

George made similar comments on Michael Irvin’s radio show, and he sounds like he’s sincere about his desire to return. But he’s sounded sincere about returning for years now, and so far, he’s been met with silence from NFL general managers.

On the other hand, in an NFL world where Daunte Culpepper can go from unemployed on Monday to a starting quarterback on Sunday, stranger things have happened. And really, for the teams that have suffered quarterback injuries this season, what would it hurt to bring George in for a look?

http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/
 
Speaking of turnovers.....


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My impression of our QBs.
 
What about Matt Cassel isn't he available after this year? I haven't really seen him play and I know the Texans aren't the Patriots, but I just wanted to throw it out there.

I would love to take Bradford/Stafford in the draft, but we have too many other holes to fill to draft a QB. Since Sage is gone next year I would love to have a young QB hold a clipboard for a year, or at least a few game since Schaub will probably only play about half a year at best. However, our D is struggling so a DT or a CB or a S would probably be a better bet, but I would love to have a franchise QB which we currently DO NOT have.
 
I don't think we need a safety anymore. I don't think SS was ever such an issue, and we have apparently stumbled over backwards into a decent FS in Eugene Wilson. At least it looks that way.
 
Kubes will be here another year, as will Matt, IMHO. I think Sage is gone and we are looking hot and heavy for another backup on the market, possibly even the draft. Of course it's still early and Sage has 2-3 more games to try and redeem himself.

Next 3 games:
@ Indy
@ Cleveland
Jax - maybe we get Matt back for Battle Red Night Football.


Is Sage a FA after this year?
 
disaacks3 said:
Now, now...there's no reason to go jumping off THAT particular bridge.

(Besides, after hearing Sage's post-game "whine" yesterday, we only have room for ONE whiny QB at a time). Mr. "I can't do it all myself" better watch more tape of his interceptions before he starts laying blame at too many other doorsteps.
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I didn't watch much of the game and none of the post-game.

Did Schaub really say" I can't do it all myself"?

:coffee:
 
they will probably keep both. unless they can gain a lot (cap wise) by letting sage go. they might have to consider drafting a qb especially if there is someone they like in the 2cnd or 3rd round.
 
disaacks3 said:
Now, now...there's no reason to go jumping off THAT particular bridge.

(Besides, after hearing Sage's post-game "whine" yesterday, we only have room for ONE whiny QB at a time). Mr. "I can't do it all myself" better watch more tape of his interceptions before he starts laying blame at too many other doorsteps.
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That's funny b/c the indy game that sure as hell what it looked like he was trying to do then...
 
OzzO said:
Alright, since you started this thread - perhaps shoot up a poll 'cause I was thinking about this.... and not sure of the answer. Concerning the QB position and based off the WEALTH of knowledge we've acquired since the HWSNBM "led" the team... what would you do this offseason? I think Schaub's option kicks in at the end of this season, or something like that - correct?

1. Keep the QB roles as is - that postition is ultimately not the team's issue, or at least immediate need.

2. Keep Matt, drop Sage. Bring up the other backups to #2 and #3.

3. Keep Matt, drop Sage... drop a #3 or 4 as well and look in the draft.

4. Drop Matt, keep Sage and do the same as #2 or 3 above.

5. Drop both, possibly bring up a #3 or 4 for backup or start and look into draft.

6. Other?

By "dropping" it's either shop em for a potential pick (if possible) or if it leads to it just cut bait. I'm thinking the 3rd option is going to be what happens.
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Cut Nall and Sage.

Keep Brink on the POS - er, I mean PS.

Sign Jeff George as the new #1 :tiphat:

Put Matt back on the bench as the #2 for a year

Draft a developmental QB sometime on the 1st day.




Okay, its a crappy plan. But is it really that much worse than what we've been doing? :thinking:
 
And to think we could have taken the Vikings for a draft pick to dump this moron just makes me sick. He can't do it all himself? I disagree with that statement. He's done a pretty good job of losing one very important game all by himself and then followed it up in his next start with what I can only characterize as a serious attempt at losing a second one all on his lonesome. Sure the other guys chipped in on that Ravens game but I think we all know Sage could have lost that one all by himself.
 
Hervoyel said:
And to think we could have taken the Vikings for a draft pick to dump this moron just makes me sick. He can't do it all himself? I disagree with that statement. He's done a pretty good job of losing one very important game all by himself and then followed it up in his next start with what I can only characterize as a serious attempt at losing a second one all on his lonesome. Sure the other guys chipped in on that Ravens game but I think we all know Sage could have lost that one all by himself.
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Pretty much my thought as when the Vikes offered us that third i was all for it.

Only question I have is who we would've taken with that extra third? There's some nice prospects still on board in the third when that pick came up.
 
"I can't do it by myself?"

I know our D hung it up that second half ... but really, how do you blame some of those interceptions on anyone but yourself?

Lame.
 
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?STORY_ID=4861

Sage said:
“I blame myself for the mistakes I made,” Rosenfels said. “But I can’t do it all and I’m probably trying to be too aggressive and make too many things happen. But I’m doing the best I can.”

“When bad things start to happen, a team like that just keeps attacking and keeps attacking because they don’t sit back when they’re in the lead and play soft coverages and let you find completions and slowly move the ball down the field like most teams do," Rosenfels said. “That team keeps bringing it, keeps blitzing, keeps being aggressive. That’s why it’s so hard, even at the end of the games when you might be down by four touchdowns, to even find completions.”

“This is a game I’m going to have to learn from,” he said. "We have a big game next week at Indianapolis. That’s a game we all know that we think we can win because we played them so well the first time. We’ll have to play even better next week.”
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That's a good question - What contributed to the four interceptions, including the two to Ray Lewis? Sage's miscue, defensive pressure, or something else?

:brickwall:
 
Hervoyel said:
And to think we could have taken the Vikings for a draft pick to dump this moron just makes me sick. He can't do it all himself? I disagree with that statement. He's done a pretty good job of losing one very important game all by himself and then followed it up in his next start with what I can only characterize as a serious attempt at losing a second one all on his lonesome. Sure the other guys chipped in on that Ravens game but I think we all know Sage could have lost that one all by himself.
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some of his passes to Ray Lewis were amazingly accurate. He never had to take an extra step to find the ball.
 
ray lewis should thank sage for this years trip to hawaii...that was a career saving game if i've ever seen one
 
I hope they are too smart to burn their #1 on a QB. Maybe in the 2nd or 3rd if they think they can fast track him.

No one has said anything about Alex Brink. I wonder how much NFL potential Kubes thinks he really has.
 
Get rid of Sage - keep Matt and get someone who has never worn and will never wear #8. If Matt can't stay on the field - retire #8 forever.

I'd vote for Graham Harrell if that were even in the realm of possibility. Alas, too many other needs come first.
 
So, Johnny Mac brought up some points today...

...But here’s something else to consider: When general manager Rick Smith and coach Gary Kubiak get serious about the draft after the season, they may have to mull using their first-round pick on a quarterback.

Three things have transpired this season to make us believe the Texans may have to select a quarterback to groom to be the next starter - Matt Schaub’s injury, Sage Rosenfels’ contract and the success of rookies Joe Flacco (Baltimore) and Matt Ryan (Atlanta)....

...In two seasons, Schaub has been out of the lineup four times with a concussion, a shoulder injury that required surgery, a viral infection and the knee injury. The Texans would love for Schaub to stay healthy next season, but what are the odds of that happening based on what we’ve seen so far?

Schaub’s six-year, $48 million contract calls for a $10 million option bonus in March of 2010 if they want to keep him for the last three years of his deal.

If Schaub is healthy next season, continues to improve and the Texans win, of course, they’ll exercise that option. But if he’s injured for the third consecutive season, they may have to think long and hard before they guarantee him another $27.35 million.

In 2009, Rosenfels will be in the last year of his contract. With Schaub out, this is Rosenfels’ chance to prove he’s worthy of being a starter. He’s not off to a good start, of course, but he has more opportunities. Still, there’s a good chance he’ll leave as a free agent after next season.

If Schaub stays healthy next season and Rosenfels leaves, he’ll have to be replaced with a veteran unless they draft a quarterback in April. And we don’t mean using a seventh-round pick for one as they did this year with Alex Brink....
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So, if I'm thinking the #3 option mentioned earlier happens - keep Matt, drop Sage, look in the draft... with other needs on the team, how late in the rounds do you think we can find our TRUE future QB (if there is one) to groom behind Matt next year and see if Matt is worthy of exercising the option for the future?
 
mexican_texan said:
If we can get Stafford, I say go for it. Otherwise, we need someone on defense.
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The Texans have a bad habit of need positions that suck in the draft

Need a DT? Well Glenn Dorsey and Cedric Ellis stay in school so you get AO

Need a QB? Well there are no good senior QBs in the 2009 draft

2010 will be a great QB draft though
 
The1ApplePie said:
The Texans have a bad habit of need positions that suck in the draft

Need a DT? Well Glenn Dorsey and Cedric Ellis stay in school so you get AO

Need a QB? Well there are no good senior QBs in the 2009 draft

2010 will be a great QB draft though
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Who's coming out in '10? I am not a huge draft nut, so I don't really keep up until after the season.
 
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