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Sick of Schaub?

3rd and Inches

3rd and Inches

NFL's La Migra
Is it just me or is Matt Schaub's performances this season less than stellar? I'm getting really tired of seeing him not give 150% every game. I'm really sick of having to see us go 3 and out over and over again.

Does anyone else feel this way too? Or is it just me?
 
Almost let that win slip away again.

Matt helped us out but he really needs to cut the INTs down. The only problem is he seems to throw INTs under pressure.
 
Leahmic223 said:
Almost let that win slip away again.

Matt helped us out but he really needs to cut the INTs down. The only problem is he seems to throw INTs under pressure.
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Well.... he was under pressure. Are you surprise he would make bad throws under pressure?
 
Leahmic223 said:
Almost let that win slip away again.

Matt helped us out but he really needs to cut the INTs down. The only problem is he seems to throw INTs under pressure.
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I agree. I also think his defender vision is pretty poor. He always seems clueless when he gets hit and when he throws picks. To me, he just doesn't look like the same QB. He had confidence last year.. played with swagger. I'm not seeing that this year yet.
 
3rd and Inches said:
1 person doesn't win a game my friend. It's a collaborative team effort. I just think he's lacking the luster he had last year is all.
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Exactly, and one player doesn't take all the blame for losses either, it's a collaborative team effort. Had we lost today, there was pressure all day, two turnovers that weren't Schaub's fault, and, yes, while he does deserve his fair share of the blame (had we lost), again, you cant blame him entirely.

Flip flopping from, blame Schaub to well, it wasn't all him, it's a team game is not fair to players.
 
PapaL said:
Yeah but a WIN sure does. Just ask Sage.
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1-4.. yes the win helps. But the 4 losses still hurts and holds us back in standings a great deal. A win is a win. It's a start. But the 4 losses also say something as well. Maybe I'm a pessimist. I just don't think he's playing at great caliber.
 
Taking the wins and losses out of the equation, I have been less and less impressed with Schaub. The turnovers are killing us. Maybe the Texans just need a QB that can perform under greater-than-normal pressure; I don't know. I do know that this is mostly the pass protection that this team gives its QB. So if that's as good as it gets, then we need a better QB.
 
New_Texans said:
He also made that great throw underpressure to Walter :O
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yep yep yep. This guy is aweeesome. Amazing play down the stretch by AJ, Schaub, and Walter. A freaking mazing. I take back every negative thing I said about AJ, this guy is simply just a beast.

4-0 against Dolphins, keep the streak alive baby!
 
eriadoc said:
Taking the wins and losses out of the equation, I have been less and less impressed with Schaub. The turnovers are killing us. Maybe the Texans just need a QB that can perform under greater-than-normal pressure; I don't know. I do know that this is mostly the pass protection that this team gives its QB. So if that's as good as it gets, then we need a better QB.
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I agree fully.

I think we need a guy who's consistent. I always know that AJ is gonna play his heart out, that Owen will play his heart out and the Defense will. But, every week I'm shaky on how Schaub will perform. I never know if he's going to be the unsure QB who's throwing INTs or if he's going to be the confident QB leader that the team needs. I'm tired of his inconsistency. Quite frankly every week, I'm developing ulcers from wondering how Schaub is going to perform for the team.
 
3rd and Inches said:
I agree. I also think his defender vision is pretty poor. He always seems clueless when he gets hit and when he throws picks. To me, he just doesn't look like the same QB. He had confidence last year.. played with swagger. I'm not seeing that this year yet.
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Same was said about Jacoby Jones until today. The way he led the team on
the final drive should go towards a good week this coming Sunday.
 
J-Russ said:
Well.... he was under pressure. Are you surprise he would make bad throws under pressure?
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And he threw two INTs under pressure.

That is what prevents him from being Franchise QB.

You look at all the Franchise QBs and they make plays underpressure or don't turn it over. Matt and Sage both turn it over under pressure. Yeah he toughened up the 2nd half. I hope I'm wrong and he turns out to be great...

I'm just calling it how I see it. We don't have years to see if he will develop. We did when we had Carr...difference is we had guys that were willing to grow with Carr and the team. IT is different now, we have guys that expect to win NOW. When does doesn't happen they leave and we'll have a hard time holding onto talent.
 
3rd and Inches said:
1-4.. yes the win helps. But the 4 losses still hurts and holds us back in standings a great deal. A win is a win. It's a start. But the 4 losses also say something as well. Maybe I'm a pessimist. I just don't think he's playing at great caliber.
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Of course hes not playing at great caliber but, after seeing Sage play wonderfully for 56 minutes then squander the game in the last 4, it makes me appreciate the QB doing something to help the team WIN in the last few minutes of the game.

Also, Schaub can run that 2 minute drill.

Another thing i noticed is that the deep ball wasn't really there for, maybe it was still the lingering effects from illness, Matt's ball seemed a bit flat today. Hopefully next week that'll be corrected.
 
Leahmic223 said:
And he threw two INTs under pressure.

That is what prevents him from being Franchise QB.

You look at all the Franchise QBs and they make plays underpressure or don't turn it over. Matt and Sage both turn it over under pressure. Yeah he toughened up the 2nd half. I hope I'm wrong and he turns out to be great...

I'm just calling it how I see it. We don't have years to see if he will develop. We did when we had Carr...difference is we had guys that were willing to grow with Carr and the team. IT is different now, we have guys that expect to win NOW. When does doesn't happen they leave and we'll have a hard time holding onto talent.
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And we do with a new QB you want to bring in? Look this guy shown enough when hes not pressured, hell he shown enough when he was pressured to make me believe we will keep him for another year, without drafting a new QB. Now I'm just hoping that we could possibly reconstruct his contract, but even if we don't we're not paying him like a franchise QB. There's plenty of QB thats getting pay more then him, so I'm comfortable with his contract and his play.

If you get him a B+ O-line, theres no doubt in my mind that this guy can be great for us. I rather draft Duke Robinson right now, then Matthew Stafford.
 
I won't knock him much this week, but I don't think Schaub is our starter next season. I believe he becomes our backup to somebody--not Rosencopter, who will be gone.
 
Schaub has an excuse this game and still pulled it out (sick, stomach thing, 7 lbs lost in a week) - what was Sage's excuse last week when they were winning?
 
TexansSeminole said:
Exactly.

Almost and probably should have thrown in interception on third down at the end of the game.
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Yes if it wasnt for Schaubs inconsistant play we wouldnt of had to scrap for a win at the end of the game against a far less talented team. I hope he gets better Im rooting for him but so far he has SUCKED!!!!!
 
mussop said:
Yes if it wasnt for Schaubs inconsistant play we wouldnt of had to scrap for a win at the end of the game against a far less talented team. I hope he gets better Im rooting for him but so far he has SUCKED!!!!!
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Are you David Carr?
 
PapaL said:
Schaub has an excuse this game and still pulled it out (sick, stomach thing, 7 lbs lost in a week) - what was Sage's excuse last week when they were winning?
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Yeah i think thats why his throws seemed a bit flat. He looked much smaller as well but hey, he took hits and got the ball out there to his receivers.

Not to mention, if AJ hadn't fumbled it wouldn't have been close. The ENTIRE team is making stupid mistakes!!! Not just Schaub. If we correct those stupid plays, we will be fine.
 
J-Russ said:
And we do with a new QB you want to bring in? Look this guy shown enough when hes not pressured, hell he shown enough when he was pressured to make me believe we will keep him for another year, without drafting a new QB. Now I'm just hoping that we could possibly reconstruct his contract, but even if we don't we're not paying him like a franchise QB. There's plenty of QB thats getting pay more then him, so I'm comfortable with his contract and his play.

If you get him a B+ O-line, theres no doubt in my mind that this guy can be great for us. I rather draft Duke Robinson right now, then Matthew Stafford.
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I think the difference is if we bring in a new QB whoever it may be, he will have way more weapons to work with.

We just can't be patient with Matt at all. I feel all of our guys want to win now.
 
Gotta give Schaub his due atleast for this week. He earns all the kudos he gets after leading the gamewinning td drive. Say what you want about whether or not you think he's the long term answer but that drive just proved he's got heart.

That's a start for now, lets build on this win for an improbable run to the playoffs!!! :fans:
 
New_Texans said:
Yeah i think thats why his throws seemed a bit flat. He looked much smaller as well but hey, he took hits and got the ball out there to his receivers.

Not to mention, if AJ hadn't fumbled it wouldn't have been close. The ENTIRE team is making stupid mistakes!!! Not just Schaub. If we correct those stupid plays, we will be fine.
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I said it back in warmups, he looked small this week. I don't know how much, if any, it affected his play. It looked to me that even his deep ball hung as opposed to the zip he normally has.
 
J-Russ said:
No way, and I mean no way does Kubiak put Schaub behind a rookie. We might draft a QB to groom(not preferred by me) but no way do we keep Schaub and bench him for a rookie QB next year.
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No what we need is a quality veterin.
 
Tim Tebow should be coming out this year. We might have a shot at him depending on how our season goes. He might be worth grooming for a year.
 
PapaL said:
Schaub has an excuse this game and still pulled it out (sick, stomach thing, 7 lbs lost in a week) - what was Sage's excuse last week when they were winning?
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PALEASE!!!! Excuses are for loosers!!! For every 4 good throws Schaub had 1 horrible one. He really got lucky he didnt have 4 or 5 INT's today. Im not a Sage supporter but he played flawlessy until the end of that game. I doubt he would do it again if he had the chance.
 
I think Schaub is going to be OK. He's got strengths and he's got weaknesses. Right now, I think that you have to get him started and get him in rhythm with good playcalling at the beginning of the game. I think he needs to get his confidence early in the game and then he's fine.

One of his early interceptions was just a bad decision. But his other one was because he was hit as he threw. His near inteception late in the game was also because he was hit as he threw. You can't blame a guy for his throws going haywire when he's being hit as he throws it.

I mean, come on. The guy made same great throws today and he made some bad throws today. But we moved the ball with him playing QB.

It's just like AJ. AJ had a MONSTER game today... but he also had some bad plays.

I think we'll probably draft a QB fairly early to groom next year but that QB isn't going to start for a couple of years.
 
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