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Who do you feel are the best prospects still available on day 3 of the draft?
Here's my list:

1. DaRick Rogers-WR, an absolute steal for whoever takes him.
2. Quinton Patton-WR, mid 2nd round talent and also a steal on day 3.
3. Jesse Williams-DT, teams must be concerned about his knee injury.
4. Cornelius Washington-OLB, lots of potential and good value on day 3.
5. Alex Okafor-DE/OLB, I don't understand his fall either.
6. Jordan Poyer-CB, I thought he'd be gone by now as well, good value.
7. Barrett Jones-OL, very versatile O-lineman and good value on day 3.

There are many other. Let's see your list, and anyone have explanations for why these guys have fallen?
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Who do you feel are the best prospects still available on day 3 of the draft?
Here's my list:

1. DaRick Rogers-WR, an absolute steal for whoever takes him.
2. Quinton Patton-WR, mid 2nd round talent and also a steal on day 3.
3. Jesse Williams-DT, teams must be concerned about his knee injury.
4. Cornelius Washington-OLB, lots of potential and good value on day 3.
5. Alex Okafor-DE/OLB, I don't understand his fall either.
6. Jordan Poyer-CB, I thought he'd be gone by now as well, good value.
7. Barrett Jones-OL, very versatile O-lineman and good value on day 3.

There are many other. Let's see your list, and anyone have explanations for why these guys have fallen?
Matt Barkley-QB, the ultimate example of why you leave when your stock is high. Goes back has a solid season but has his game picked apart and falls like a rock. If he makes it to us i would hope we take him. Too much value.

Also consider- Tyler Wilson, Tyler Bray, Matt Scott

Marcus Lattimore-RB, the injuries are causing the drop that's understandable but he could have been a 1st rounder if healthy. He's a special talent

Also consider- Johnathan Franklin, Mike Gillisle, Kenjon Barner

Agree on WR Rogers if he stays out of trouble he's an awesome player.

Also consider- Quinton Patton, Ryan Swope
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Who besides Marcus Lattimore has Carolina ties?
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I hope they take a NT and a CB next.
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I hope they take a NT and a CB next.
I don't think they believe NT is a need. I would be shocked if the next three picks didn't include a TE (perhaps two, no kidding!) and a LB.
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I hope they take a NT and a CB next.
Although I am good with taking a CB next (you can never have enough good DBs and they can at least play some STs) as bpa - why do you specifically want this position? We have 3 quality starters in JoJo, KJ and McCain and we have promising depth in Harris and Carmichael.

I think we have bigger question marks elsewhere, ILB comes to mind. Or even a TE...
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I hope they take a NT and a CB next.
I'm thinking the Texans will go all defense the rest of the way, but wouldn't be surprised if they took another WR as well. I can't understand the fall of DaRick Rogers-WR. I don't think it's because of his failed drug tests at Tenn. because he cleaned up and has done all the right things since. If he's there for us in the 4th, regardless of other needs, I think you have to take him, he's just to good of a value to turn down and he would add tremendous depth to our weak WR corp.
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I'm thinking the Texans will go all defense the rest of the way, but wouldn't be surprised if they took another WR as well. I can't understand the fall of DaRick Rogers-WR, I don't think it's because of his failed drug tests at Tenn. because he cleaned up and has done all the right things since. If he's there for us in the 4th, regardless of other needs, I think you have to take him, he's just to good of a value to turn down and he would add tremendous depth to our weak WR corp.
There is simply no way the Texans pass up drafting Tight End. It is a legitimate need and Kubiak still runs the team. We got get the 1-2 punch in the 6th round like the '09 (Hill, Casey) double feature.
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Although I am good with taking a CB next (you can never have enough good DBs and they can at least play some STs) as bpa - why do you specifically want this position? We have 3 quality starters in JoJo, KJ and McCain and we have promising depth in Harris and Carmichael.

I think we have bigger question marks elsewhere, ILB comes to mind. Or even a TE...
They might make good on the Reed's move to ILB.
Teams always carry at least 6 CBs, I believe.
And Jesse Wiliams will help somebody get free in one-on-one opportunities.
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I'm thinking the Texans will go all defense the rest of the way, but wouldn't be surprised if they took another WR as well. I can't understand the fall of DaRick Rogers-WR. I don't think it's because of his failed drug tests at Tenn. because he cleaned up and has done all the right things since. If he's there for us in the 4th, regardless of other needs, I think you have to take him, he's just to good of a value to turn down and he would add tremendous depth to our weak WR corp.
WR and TE in the sixth.
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I'm thinking the Texans will go all defense the rest of the way, but wouldn't be surprised if they took another WR as well. I can't understand the fall of DaRick Rogers-WR. I don't think it's because of his failed drug tests at Tenn. because he cleaned up and has done all the right things since. If he's there for us in the 4th, regardless of other needs, I think you have to take him, he's just to good of a value to turn down and he would add tremendous depth to our weak WR corp.
I actually like our WR depth right now:

AJ and Hopkins should start. Posey will be back later in the year and looked promising. Martin showed flashes at times, with a year under his belt and another training camp he should take the next step - and Jean showed a lot of potential as well. That`s 5 guys right here that should all contribute.

Like I said, there are major question marks at ILB and TE - so either go bpa now or I would adress those needs first...
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1. DT Jesse Williams, Alabama (23)

Where he wins: Experience at nose tackle and as a five technique end. Strong upper body to absorb and hold an anchor. Shows power in hands to shed or extend and press the pocket from the interior at times.

2. WR Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech (30)

Where he wins: Extremely fluid and smooth in his routes. Sets up opposing cornerback with head fakes and cuts. Reliable hands and adjusts body positioning after tracking to come down with difficult catches. Burns opposition vertically when speed isnít respected.

3. S Bacarri Rambo, Georgia (47)

Where he wins: Center field type safety who tracks the ball well with angles to disrupt the catch point. Shows enough tackling ability to be a reliable last line of defense. Great ball skills and shows a physical side closing downhill versus receivers.

4. DE Alex Okafor, Texas (48)

Where he wins: Uncommon kind of pass rusher in that he does his best work with hand use, extension, and shedding ability. Lines up in two and three point stances. Not afraid to plant off of his outside foot and work inside, or keep his opposition on skates. Reaches to make a play on the QB in the pocket.

5. CB Jordan Poyer, Oregon State (50)

Where he wins: Adept in off man, press man, and zone coverages. Physical player on the edge, attacks WR blocks and fights off to make a play. Has a good feel for timing with decisive footwork. Has experience in the slot.

6. DE Cornelius Washington, Georgia (51)

Where he wins: In wide 7 or 9 technique. Excellent get off with low pad level, gains leverage with strong first contact. Leg drive to keep opposition on skates. Has more athleticism than was shown at 5 technique in 2012.

7. S Shamarko Thomas, Syracuse (52)

Where he wins: A very aggressive, confident hitter in the open field and when closing on the edge. See him blowing up the middle on inside runs as well. Sniffs out misdirection. Strong safety that lays the hammer on short to intermediate patterns.

8. RB Andre Ellington, Clemson (54)

Where he wins: Lean runner who sticks close to his blocks with great acceleration after cutting off their backsides. Despite his narrow base he has some nice balance and isnít afraid of contact as a runner or in pass protection. Decisive cutter, likely in a zone scheme.

9. RB Johnathan Franklin, UCLA (55)

Where he wins: One cut, decisive runner with great vision to find backside lanes. Doesnít shy from contact as a pass protector and can make a big play happen if given a seam due to excellent straight-line speed. Upfield cuts make defenders miss at the second level.

10. DE Quanterus Smith, Western Kentucky (60)

Where he wins: Eats up a lot of ground getting upfield off the snap, shows a nice dip to turn the corner against right tackles and free his path towards QBs. Not a one trick pony, shows willingness to plant outside and work in.

11. WR DaíRick Rogers, Tenn Tech (62)

Where he wins: Gets physical in his routes by creating separation, slightly pushes off. Tracks vertical passes well and a determined runner after the catch. Makes grabs in traffic with corners attempting to undercut pattern.

12. LB DeVonte Holloman, South Carolina (65)

Where he wins: Prototypical strong side linebacker. Gets up field against the run but remains under control. Extends arms to create separation in order to shed on ball carrier. Plays low and former safety skills show when asked to play in short to intermediate game.

13. CB Adrian Bushell, Louisville (68)

Where he wins: Lots of press man and mirrors early in routes with good burst to cut in front of receivers. Tight angles off the edge when sent on a blitz, cleans up on hits when downhill. Frequently used as a gunner on the punt team.

14. CB Sanders Commings, Georgia (69)

Where he wins: A true press corner, sticks in the hip pocket and slows his opposition downfield. Sheds to put himself in position to make a play in the running game and doesnít mind tackling.

15. T Reid Fragel, Ohio State (78)

Where he wins: Played right tackle despite a left tackle frame and was not overpowered. Shows nice posture and length to extend, with necessary footwork to make an impact at the second level. Hand placement always seems to be inside to control.

16. WR Ryan Swope, Texas A&M (83)

Where he wins: Primarily a slot receiver in college with quick feet to create separation in breaks. Thrives on the broken play due to vertical speed that wasnít regularly used. Improved hands from 2011 to 2012.

17. S Earl Wolff, NC State (85)

Where he wins: Physical tackler coming from the free safety position, reads and reacts quickly. Makes plays from the opposite hash, takes solid angles and times contact well. Can play single high, two deep, or run with receivers down the seam.

18. CB B.W. Webb, William & Mary (86)

Where he wins: Plenty of off man coverage in college with nice back pedal, strafe, and hip turn to stick with receivers. Attacks the catch point to disrupt. Does well to keep everything in front of him.

19. RB Dennis Johnson, Arkansas (87)

Where he wins: Will shine on passing downs. Short choppy steps allow for quick cuts to change defendersí angles. Comfortable as a receiver in the flats or on angle routes. Low center of gravity helps with broken tackles.

20. S Josh Evans, Florida (88)

Where he wins: Does not mind getting physical despite frequently lining up as Matt Elamís free safety. Knifes through trash to make tackles rather than waiting as the last line of defense. Does not shy from attacking the catch point or immediately after. Comfortable trailing tight ends from the slot.

21. OLB Khaseem Greene, Rutgers (90)

Where he wins: Obviously comfortable in space, runs the seam with tight ends or receivers and shows closing speed in every aspect of his game. Shows more aggression when working downhill whether ball carrier is lined up or on the edge. Weakside linebacker.

22. DE Malliciah Goodman, Clemson

Where he wins: Freakish length and can generate consistent separation when it is used. Shows a variety of techniques when rushing from the 5 spot, including push and pull or slap with dip to turn the corner. Strong side defensive end.

23. LB Chase Thomas, Stanford

Where he wins: A very technical pass rusher in terms of hand use, extension, and shedding ability. Not going to wow with athleticism but understands leverage and lines to keep his opponent off balance. See him as a pass rushing linebacker.

24. RB Zac Stacy, Vanderbilt

Where he wins: Rarely goes down on first contact. Powerful runner with solid base to work through tackles. One cut runner with some burst. Unafraid to work between the tackles. Covers ground with jump cuts.

25. S Phillip Thomas, Fresno State

Where he wins: Has excellent ball skills as a center fielder with enough skill to take downfield receivers in man coverage. Good angles with some aggression in the running game, even if he doesnít finish the tackle.
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David Quessenberry (OG/C - San Jose St.) and Jonathan Franklin (RB - UCLA) are two guy who really stick out to me. Both guys have immediate starting potential and are still available.
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Nassib- Best QB still available IMO mobile, gamer, good arm, and digested a new playbook this year. Why dropped, just a weak QB class as a whole and real value of this draft has been at less glamorous positions.

Barkley - Not so much best still available more as surprised. Why? Shoulder injury and you have to think the real lack of NFL production by USC quarterbacks is catching up with him. Also doesn't have arm strength you would like.

IMO bottom line with QBs left someone is going to start a run on QBS and it could start at the top of the 4th. I'd really love for this team to take one Either Wilson or I'd love for them to gamble on Bray.



Lattimore- Injury obviously.

Stefan Taylor- Would love to take him 4th or 5th and a one two punch at RB. Just teams are taking the better value at different positions.


Alex Okafor - Motor questions IMO.
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Denard Robinson WR/RB/football player is the kind of guy NE would grab and just put on the field to make plays. If this kid is there with HOU 6th rounder they should grab him.
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I hope we make a move up in the 4th to grab either Jesse Williams, or Kaseem Greene. Greene would be an excellent ILB for us. I think he can be a three down backer next to Cushing.
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