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View Poll Results: How do you grade the second selection of the third round?
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Old 04-27-2013   #21
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Would rather have him after he fails the first time in the NFL. Hopefully this does not become a "project" to nurture, cut him immediately if dumb flares up again.

Talented, but introducing apathy into a locker room with questionable leadership is not a recipe for success.
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In the end it is a bit of a gamble. But when you have the chance to grab a first round talent at the end of round 3 and are convinced you can correct his problems, I am ok with this pick.
This thought almost makes the choice palatable to me. Almost. I do hope he works out and my negative feelings are proven incorrect.
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This thought almost makes the choice palatable to me. Almost. I do hope he works out and my negative feelings are proven incorrect.
The Texans can't get to the next level without taking chances and hitting on some . They did the exact opposite of Jerry Jones .

The guy is different .

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In the end it is a bit of a gamble. But when you have the chance to grab a first round talent at the end of round 3 and are convinced you can correct his problems, I am ok with this pick.
From the little bit I've read, it appears the comments he made about taking plays off is what got him kicked off other teams boards. However, none of the scouting reports I've seen mentioned taking plays off, or a lack of motor.

Hopefully this is a case of people putting too much stock in the words people use, & not enough in production.

As far as the other observations... tight hips & concerns in space, if this guy is who he looks like, he'll be asked to cover someone 3 to 6 times a season...
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From the little bit I've read, it appears the comments he made about taking plays off is what got him kicked off other teams boards. However, none of the scouting reports I've seen mentioned taking plays off, or a lack of motor.

Hopefully this is a case of people putting too much stock in the words people use, & not enough in production.

As far as the other observations... tight hips & concerns in space, if this guy is who he looks like, he'll be asked to cover someone 3 to 6 times a season...
I'd rather have a talented guy to learn from JJ , Ninja , Cushing , Reed , and Dobbins than another try hard guy from Colorado State .
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you can just throw out this whole BPA BS now. teams draft for need & Texans needed a run stopper @ LOLB. also think Texans should have taken Brandon Williams with 1st pick of 3rd rd. then Brennan Williams 2nd pick. Montgomery would most likely still be available in 4th. reason why I gave them only a C
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you can just throw out this whole BPA BS now. teams draft for need & Texans needed a run stopper @ LOLB. also think Texans should have taken Brandon Williams with 1st pick of 3rd rd. then Brennan Williams 2nd pick. Montgomery would most likely still be available in 4th. reason why I gave them only a C
Yep ... I'm hoping / guessing they know more than I do because I wanted a NG also .
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you can just throw out this whole BPA BS now. teams draft for need & Texans needed a run stopper @ LOLB. also think Texans should have taken Brandon Williams with 1st pick of 3rd rd. then Brennan Williams 2nd pick. Montgomery would most likely still be available in 4th. reason why I gave them only a C
I respectfully disagree BL. Montgomery has borderline 1st talent, and I would be very surprised had Montgomery been available in the 4th. Hell, I was surprised he was there in the third. There had also been a run of OLBs taken (Moore, Moore, and Lemonier went in the 3rd before Montgomery, and Gooden went after), so the FO took a guy they had highly rated.
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Default Re: Draft Grade - Round 3/2 Sam Montgomery

The trick to this guy is getting him to "want to". What I took from his comments was that he had a harder time getting up for the lesser opponents which is a common issue but players don't usually admit to it. He seems to grasp the idea that in the NFL there are no real lesser opponents so I think he'll be fine.
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I think he'll be fine, good locker room, putting anyone near Cushing and Watt who thinks taking plays off won't last long.

I love his on the field motor though and looks like the team will have options far as Reed moving inside if they want or don't take an ILB.
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I like the pick, this guy has explosion and with the right scheme and coaching, he can be an elite edge rusher in this league. Cant see why everyones down on this pick.
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Just judging from what I see on film I see a guy that plays strong and is aware. Sets the edge well and looks like a good enough pass rusher for the strong side. I'm excited about him and trevardo Williams because our olb's did not excite me.
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With his history of a torn ACL it was a complete waste of a valuable draft pick.
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With his history of a torn ACL it was a complete waste of a valuable draft pick.
That was 2010.

This isn't 1960, anymore. People can come back from ACL issues now.
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With his history of a torn ACL it was a complete waste of a valuable draft pick.
Should the Texans go ahead and cut Brian Cushing? He has had a torn ACL, you know.
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Should the Texans go ahead and cut Brian Cushing? He has had a torn ACL, you know.
Absolutely. Trade him if possible, or cut him and spend the money elsewhere. If I remember right, Clay Matthews was available when Cush was drafted. Cush had a college history of being injury prone, and has been sidelined by injuries time after time since then, culminating in the big one from which he'll never fully recover.
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Absolutely. Trade him if possible, or cut him and spend the money elsewhere. If I remember right, Bruce Matthews was available when Cush was drafted. Cush had a college history of being injury prone, and has been sidelined by injuries time after time since then, culminating in the big one from which he'll never fully recover.
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I've read some whacked out comments around here, but this one takes the cake.

We should give it it's own thread. Another "Cockroach" type thread
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